Friday, December 27, 2019

Mahathir: OK with Malay Dignity Congress, but Nay to DJZ Congress

Yoursay: Dr M, what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander

YOURSAY | ‘(But) for Chinese to have their congress, you spoke about chaos.’

Dr M cautions Chinese congress on Jawi script will lead to chaos

Vijay47: This is vintage Dr Mahathir Mohamad. Cunning, deceit and treachery at its best; dishonesty and hypocrisy that only an evil cad of singular skill can display.

In his soon-to-be-explained feigned innocence, he will piously plead that he is concerned with only the nation’s well-being, pointing out that any unwise move by any community could lead to flames in the sky and blood on the streets.

No, Mahathir, that was not any sagely caution, it was not even a warning. It was a sly call to the Malays, an incitement to riot, that the Dong Zong gathering is the final straw in a Chinese campaign towards subjugating the Malays and displacing Islam from its pedestal.

Reading your comments, any Malay would feel a patriotic compulsion to march, that continued attacks on his people and way of life cannot be allowed to continue. And when they do march, you will watch from the wayside in helpless anguish and lament, “I told you so.”

Recently, you were overseas, spewing out typical Mahathiresque hatred, anti-Semitism and related vile. And your outraged justification when criticised? That you also are entitled to “freedom of speech”. Indeed so, so be it.

But does that liberty to express one’s thoughts and sentiments end when one enters Malaysian waters? If it does not, is such privilege available to only one segment of our plural society?

We all recall that you did not show similar reticence when you not only graced the Malay Dignity Congress but made an especially contemptible speech that whipped up the congregation’s emotions. That was a speech from which you will never recover respect and trust. Tell me, Mahathir, how different are you from that gutter snake from India which you clasp to your bosom?

Far from your comments to arouse, you should have bravely stated, “Well, the Malays had their say at the Malay Dignity Congress and it would be only fair for our non-Malay citizens also to voice out their doubts, fears, and hopes.”

How sad, disillusioning, and frightening it is that while you now consider yourself caliph of all that one surveys between the Nile and the Tigris, you forget that you are prime minister of Malaysia.

Hearty Malaysian: Mahathir, not wishing to learn Jawi is not anti-Malay, it is unbecoming of you as PM to say the Chinese Congress on Jawi would risk Malay reacting in a “very Malay way”.

Indeed, you are advocating, if not indirectly suggesting, the Malay right-wing organisations to do so. Have you ever thought your presence in the Malay Dignity Congress has hurt the feeling of Chinese voters who played key roles of putting you into the PM office?

You refused to see Tanjong Piai results as the proof Bersatu still can’t get Malay votes despite your very Malay-centric moves, while the Chinese voters showed the middle finger to Bersatu for your betrayal to them.

Malaysian-United: Indeed, Mahathir had absolutely no problems holding the Malay Dignity Congress and even defended it as something of a Malay "right" to express their views while indulging in what appeared to be a non-Malay bashing event.

But when this Chinese educationist group wants to hold a peaceful gathering in protest of the introduction of Jawi, Mahathir makes it into an issue.

Enough of the racial bullying and stop making veiled threats against the non-Malays. It’s not unconstitutional to speak up on issues that affects the interests of minority groups. Don't expect the minorities to put up with your racist policies without some sort of resistance.

Wira: I agree with Mahathir on this issue. People power is never a strong point for a minority group. Dong Zong should focus on what and where the community is strongest and not where it is the weakest.

Call this off, Dong Zong. Don't be irrational and "bodoh" (stupid).

Anonymous 1689721435778173: The only problem is our education system is in such shambles that there is so much to do as there are so many areas to rectify. Why do we need to introduce Jawi at this time when the focus should be to improve the system?

Is the government serious about improving the system? Besides I don't like the tone of Mahathir's rebuke. There is nothing in him that has changed for the better after 19 months of his return as PM.

Is he trying to suggest to the Malay extremists to create chaos just because of the objections to introducing Jawi in vernacular schools? Surely, the Chinese educationists have the right to express their objections.

Mazilamani: This matter has been made unavoidably complicated by the education minister. To ask Dong Zong not to raise it as an issue, amounts to asking someone not to represent or voice the concern of an affected community.
Mahathir's direct interference and consequentially veiled warning has complicated the matter deeply. A leader must pacify flammable situation to incite reaction of another group.

Odysseus: For Chinese to have their congress, you spoke about chaos. You were part of the Malay Dignity Congress which gave a set of demands at the expense of minorities, do you think they are happy? Aren't you, as the PM for the country, concern about their unhappiness?

Now, you are organising an international Muslim summit, don't you think the non-Muslim nations are not concerned about what's being discussed and said in this meeting.

You have your mufti from the north telling the Muslim nations to boycott non-Muslim products, if the non-Muslims nations were to take the pre-emptive steps to counter it, do you think it will be beneficial for the Muslims?

Dharma: Mahathir manipulates. He does not inspire people to follow the rule of law like a true statesman would. When he talks about people reacting "in a very Malay way", he is egging on the right-wing to behave in a racist way.

If he truly cared for the nation, he would urge people to follow the rule of law. The rule of law means using what is allowed in our Constitution to make our voices heard. Holding demonstrations is not "a very Chinese" approach. It is part and parcel of democracy.

Mahathir asks us to consider the feelings of other races - this is a clever way of twisting the facts. Chinese are demonstrating to say they don't want Chinese-medium and Tamil-medium schools to be forced to teach khat. They are not demanding that khat not be taught in Malay-medium schools. How can the Malays feel hurt about that?

He seems to be suggesting that rejecting ‘ketuanan’ policies is an assault against Malays. At this old age, Mahathir continues to be a demon, a curse upon the nation.

Gerard Lourdesamy: Mahathir, why did the Malay Dignity Congress take place? So the majority race of 54.66% can say and do what it likes but the minority races must keep quiet and accept the erosion of their rights under the Constitution? Where is the fairness and justice in that?

If non-Malays do not want to learn, read or write in Jawi, is that unlawful? The law only requires them to learn to read and write Bahasa Melayu in the romanised script.

We are all sick and tired of the constant threats and intimidation from the majority as if we have contributed zero to this country and deserve to be only a sub-class of citizens.

Proarte: They don't want khat in Chinese vernacular schools because khat has nothing to do with Chinese education and has Islamic and Arab influences. It has nothing to do with the national language.

Mahathir is merely playing cheap dog-whistle politics to stir up tension and shore up his waning Malay support.

Malays I believe are far more decent and sensible than the ruling elite Malays give them credit for. They are not going to object if Dong Zong opposes 'khat' because the vast majority of Malays did not know what 'khat' was until Mahathir and his below-par education minister introduced it.

Newday: Please explain how this congress goes against the Constitution? You know it does not. There is so much fuss over three pages in the curriculum. Everyone on all sides needs to stop being so offended.

Is it a sign of increasing Islamisation? Possibly. Don't hold the congress? Maybe. It certainly should be Dong Zong's right in a supposed democracy to do so, yet our leader states otherwise for inferred fear of upsetting the very easily offended self-righteous ones.

My Malay family does not care if the congress is held or not, Mahathir. We accept that even if we don't agree with the aim, they (Dong Zong) have the right to discuss.

Again and again, the minorities are reminded that democracy is conditional in Malaysia on the minorities being like obedient little puppies, never to cause a ruckus or voice out opinion for fear of the wrath of the majority master race.

Liberal Muslims such as myself are also increasingly being asked to be the obedient puppy (Amanah's conditional compassionate Islam).

You rave about making Islam great again yet, what is this? No room to move for the minorities. It is as if you want all the minorities to leave. If the minorities had the funds, they more than likely would.

How about you start laying down the democratic law to the easily-offended self-righteous master race? Put them in their easily offended box. They are the garbage stirrers, they always start the offence even when there is none.

Do your job. It is assumed that now, due to your thinly veiled warning that if Dong Zong does proceed, there will be a marshalling of PDRM and Co to shut it down. A pity you didn't do the same for the more than harmful Malay Dignity Congress.

Anonymous_b3cdcd05: Malaysians are far ahead of the PM on maintaining racial harmony and sensitive matters. They don't resort to dignity congresses branding others as 'orang asing'.

As a PM, Mahathir is expected to resolve issues, especially those he had started, and not give unsolicited advice and ultimatum that can provoke chaos.


  1. if malay congress not good, chinese congress ok kah?

    1. Malay dignity congress was held on PROMPTING and PARTICIPATION by and with BLESSINGS from Mahathir, so why did he warn DJZ against having theirs?

    2. Closet Chinese hater slowly showing his true colour!

      Maybe after a reminder about the flow of his upkeeping cost.

    3. we all know mahathir, i am just curious y those that condemned malay congress is now okay with chinese congress, so goose gander only apply to mahathir?

      n i normally dun reply to childish comment.

    4. Malay Dignity Congress was condemned because of its racist rants, threats and warnings, with Mahathir calling Chinese 'orang asing'. Shouldn't such a racist congress be condemned?

      Would DJZ congress voice racism? But it's a moot point as the police has a court order to stop that.

      Therein lies the difference, between overt blatant racism led by a PM (ironically voted by stupid Chinese) and normal forum on importance in role of school boards, which sadly, you couldn't even see

    5. how u know djz wouldnt voice racism? n besides djz, u know all the other participants well?

      mahathir orang asing speech is clearly refer to history context.

      btw, i copy that question from chinese language forum, written in chinese, i supposed they are chinese educated.

    6. 1st, there r all kinds of idiots around. No organizer of any public event can prevent moronic udang using the platform to shoot their cries/chants.

      The Chinese Organisations Joint Conference against the introduction of Jawi in vernacular schools organized by DJZ has no CLEAR racist connotation as in the case of the bigoted theme of the Malay Dignity Congress.

      So, a meeting with clear racist expression AGAINST one with only educational objective - prove once for all to see yr lousy twisting of intention.

      " …copy that question from chinese language forum, written in chinese, i supposed they are chinese educated."

      Perhaps the above ONLY conclusively confirmed yr reading deficiency skill, not only in Chinese but all other forms of language mediums - resulting in translating what u wanted to f*ck about.

      A kind of playing retitling the essay after C&P to achieve yr evil aim.

      Mamak's orang asing speech has been CONSISTENTLY been played out by the zombies, ketuanan freaks & blur-sotongs, from dulu, kini dan selamanya. So what history context r u farting about?

      Trying to whitewash a FACT - to charm yr dangdut pals, mfer?

      BTW, what has Chinese educated got to do with what u have chosen to translate?

      Maybe liken to u been claimed to be Chinese educated & yet acted so diminishing in understanding thing Chinese.

      Ooop… forgetting u had been to that Formosa island for thorough anmokausai brain washing. Just like those HK/Taiwanese 废青!

    7. 1 if one tell me chinese language is useless, chinese calligraphy is useless, chinese school is useless, i may hv the impression he is a racist. is all the above not education related?

      2. seem like whenever we hear term like coolie, orang asing, pendatang, we would react like a zombie.

      3. chinese educated is just education in chinese medium language, nothing to do with racism, support ccp n communism, support china claim on south sea, support oppression of minority in china n support djz blindly.

    8. Mfer, has u read carefully what u have been written & what have been replied?

      Kid stuffs? Or u trying to twist to play dumb?

  2. I think you guys are giving strength to the hardliners who want the entire Chinese education system in Malaysia shut down.

    1. all agitated by an anti-Chinese mahathir

    2. The zombies, the ketuanan freaks & the blur-sotongs have wanted the entire Chinese education system in Malaysia shut down for as long as they r been awakened!

      So, what hardliners?

      So, what agitation by mamak?

      It's just pure INFERIORITY complex showing - dulu, kini dan selamanya!

    3. I personally have no objection to Chinese vernacular schools that accept the National education policy, especially respect for the position of Bahasa Melayu and emphasising loyalty to Malaysia.

      That rules out a 100% Chinese syllabus like UEC.
      Almost all the Chinese-educated Chinese I have met support China's "right" to claim the entire South China Sea , and ignore Malaysia's right under international law to its EEZ. Makes me wonder what values they teach in Chinese schools. Love for China I suspect.

    4. Mfer, if u have NO objection to Chinese vernacular schools THEN don't play with a pseudo-legislation like the ketuanan National education policy, which goes against the educational rights enshrined in the FedConstitution articles 152 (make VERY sure u understand ALL the clauses within, not just 152(a)).

      BTW, anywhere in the vernacular education policies AIN'T the respect for the position of Bahasa Melayu and emphasising loyalty to Malaysia been highlighted?

      Perhaps, yr small brain can't read past 152(a)!

      What's yr Chinese syllabus definition? As in CHINA?

      UEC teaches royalty & racial harmony to MALAYSIA w/o the intrinsic melayu hegemony encapsulated within that pseudo legislation known as National education policy. Its legal status is ambiguous BCOZ it contravening the supreme FedConst!

      The historical right to claim the South China Sea as demarcated within the Nine-Dotted Lines, had not been challenged when it was formulated.

      Malaysia's right under international law to its EEZ IS only secondary to that historical right.

      Just to enlighten a ketuanan f*ck - has the orang asal more RIGHTS than the melayu to claim native jurisdictions over Golden Khersonese (Χρυσῆ Χερσόνησος) over a more recent pommie defined tanah melayu? Which is more rigidly formulated than that pommie forced nanmetag?

      Bcoz of that mfers, like u, love pommieland more?

    5. orang asal never challenge so shd they shut up now?

    6. Mfer, so that how u have interpreted the clash of cultures!

      Banyak pandai le - as been taught by yr dangdut pals.

      Orang asal never challenges the melayu claim bcoz

      1) they have NEVER in their life, thinking that lands can be taken away from them

      2) the pommie thought they r too underdeveloped mentally to be as easily to manipulate like the melayu elites of the day. The pommie kept the Nons at arms length bcoz they remembered what Napoleon had said!

      The ketuanan agenda has been hard at work since merdeka to keep the orang asal at status quote - just to drown their objections out.

      Under yr the, of course u will NEVER hear their cries of despair!

    7. QUOTE
      if malay congress not good, chinese congress ok kah?

      If Malay congress boleh jalan, Chinese congress boleh kah?

    8. "If Malay congress boleh jalan, Chinese congress boleh kah?"

      if u ask me, of course boleh, so if malay congress not good, chinese congress ok kah? jawab jgn tak jawab.
      tak jjawab.

  3. Of course Toonsie and Bersatu are racists. That's why we need Check and Balance. Not like before Yes Sir Yes Sir Three Bags Full Cabinet. We must maintain a strong non-Muslim representation in Toonsie's cabinet and in Parliament. Now is not the time for them to resign or be voted out. So who we should we vote to replace them? MCA? Get Real. They had 60 years.

    Yadim has been surreptitiously doing dakwah work in schools since 2013 when MCA's Wee KHAT Siong was Deputy Education Minister. Did he say anything?

    "It's a club only for Muslims" they say. So who will they convert?

    Education Ministry denies ‘Islamisation’, says missionary club in schools only for Muslims

    24 Dec 2019

    By Radzi Razak

    KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 24 — The Ministry of Education has denied today any attempt at Islamisation, after a leaked letter on its cooperation with Putrajaya-linked missionary foundation Yayasan Dakwah Islamiah Malaysia (Yadim) for a club, among others in schools.

    The ministry said today that the voluntary programmes called Rakan Siswa Yadim and Rakan Remaja Yadim will not involve non-Muslim students, and they can be refused by any schools or higher education institutions.

    “The Education Ministry would like to stress that this is not Islamisation and does not involve non-Muslim students as well as SJK(C), SJK(T) and missionary schools,” it said in a statement.

    “The ministry guarantees that Rakan Siswa Yadim will be responsible for obeying existing rules and the freedom of religion for non-Muslim students.

  4. As long as the present leaders still have the ketuahnan Melayu mentality,and it still exists in the heads of these racists,these problems cannot just ride into the sunset.

    Mahathir,after so many decades as PM,still cannot get it.He has completely lost his sense of directions.As Anwar cannot do a worst job,it is better that he took over the helm.

  5. It is the same stupid assumption that Anwar cannot bonk his male partners,but Mahathir's blue eyed boy get get bonked in the backside by his male partners.

    1. wakakaka, bruno matey, you remind me of Haziq spreading his legs to show off

  6. this is what happen when a country is having multi medium of education. We should adopt a single medium, that is national medium.

  7. Siapa salah bila orang malaysia gagal bercakap bahasa kebangsaan, taraf pasar aku bolih faham tapi sekarang lagi teruk taraf longkang guys, tutup sekolah Vernakular, satu aliran lagi bagus, bahasa jiwa bangsa masih belum di temui, itu pasal kita gaduh selama nya, aku memang rasis pada yg gagal bahasa kebangsaan tap mengaku mereka rakyat malaysia.

    1. Mfer, pandang muka lah!

      Jangan setiap masa menentang taraf bahasa orang bukan melayu berbual Bahasa Malaysia. Issue adalah bolih berbual untuk cukup berfaham!

      Bolih ke kau berbahasa orang m'sia yang bukan melayu untuk menimbulkan keadaan muhibbah?

      M'sia bukan ditinggal orang melayu sahaja. Lagi pun elite2 kau sesungguh berbual bahasa pommie.

      Ada orang melayu juga bercakap bahasa M'sia dengan taraf longkang jikalau berbanding dengan orang bukan melayu!

      Mereka tu semua pun yg gagal bahasa kebangsaan tapi mengaku mereka rakyat malaysia.

      U memang betul2 rasis lagi berbodoh sombong! Setiap kali nak tunjung agenda melayu hegemony - seolah2 menunyai fikiran insecurity!

  8. Hahahahahahahaha..... He fool everyone..... Hahahahaha.... Lu boleh bikin apa....

  9. Jangan cuba nak perlekehkan bahasa2 asal minority. Minority tidak pernah tak setuju mempelajari Bahasa Melayu. Setakat itu cukuplah.Let's just mind our own business and live a peaceful and happy life in progressive Malaysia. Suka tak suka Bahasa Inggeris dan Bahasa Cina ialah Bahasa perniagaan dan Bahasa Antarabangsa. Bahasa Melayu hanya bahasa local. Jadi let's go according to the flow.

  10. So sad that people still think there is Malaysia Baru when everything is the same unfair, unjust, racist and suppressive or oppressive kind or same one kind of people in the present government. Please wake up and accept this fact and you will not be disappointed and be taken aback by their barbaric behaviour such as that of Gamis and where no action is taken against them for threatening to kill Chinese.