Sunday, December 30, 2012

Bye 2012, Hi 2013

For me, my highlights in this year (2012) have been all about star-fruits and mangosteen.

star-fruits (carambola)

mangosteen fruits (garcinia mangostana)

But anyway, farewell 2012

sorry it didn't happen, wakakaka

And welcome 2013.

Happy New Year to all Malaysians and other friends (Aussie, Thai, Indon, Singaporean, Viet, Cambodian, NZ, Chinese - Mainland, HK and Taiwan - Korean, Pommie, French, Canadian, US, Paki, Egyptian, Lebanese, etc).

It has been a reasonably good year for me, and I hope for same or even better in 2013, to jolly and to kong-more-samkok with my mateys.

What did I achieve in 2012 - well, nothing spectacular but a better job, more travelling, and hey, I get to eat mangosteen in China after umpteen years of missing the fruit each time I returned to Malaysia.

Yes, when I was back in Penang in 2004 to vote for my Penang larng, Zulkifli Mohd Noor, in the Bukit Bendera (BB) federal constituency and again in March 2008 (that time to vote for Liew Chin Tong in BB, and my ADUN Lim Guan Eng in Ayer Putih) I couldn't find any mangosteen, wakakaka.

Ayer Itam, Penang

Yes, you can get mangosteen in Australia but the quality is terrible and the cost worse (bloody prohibitively expensive). However, availability of durian and its cost are moe man t'ai thanks to imports from Thailand.

So when I was in Yunnan and Guangxi (China) about 3 months back I gorged on the succulent fruits. From my Aussie mateys' own experiences with mangosteen and their shocked observations of the quantity I took (bloody cheap lah, RMB15 per kilo only), they were fairly worried I would suffer tummy upset, but hey ho, my tummy had been lined up with Penang kampung toughness.

Additionally I also gorged on star-fruits (carambola) which was about RMB4.50 per kilo. The last time I had decent star-fruits was in KL some 10 years ago, though I grew up with a star-fruit tree in front of my old house in Ayer Itam, Penang. I have to admit the quality of star-fruits I obtained in KL were bigger, sweeter and overall superior to the one from my tree.

Before my recent/latest feast of star-fruits in Guangxi and Yunnan, I did partake of same in New Caledonia  when I stayed with a French family in the capital Noumea. They have two star-fruit trees in their backyard but the fruits were very small and not sweet at all. Mind you, I love the sweeties there, wakakaka.

I've also taken up sudoku after being convinced by a Malaysian doctor whom I met in China during my last trip there that it helps relieve tension. But I feel terribly tensed each time I couldn't solve one.

Anyway matey, it's drinking time liao, so Happy New Year. Cheers


Saturday, December 29, 2012

Now, who are the Arab wannabes?

God in Bahasa is ……..?

By now, we would have been well and truly conversant with the legal, etymological or historical use of the ‘Allah’ word in the Catholic news letter, the Herald, and the Malay language Bible (al Kitab).

And let's not forget the political element as well as the Allah word also serves those with an agenda, a political agenda.

It had been the Catholic Herald’s insistence on using Allah as the Bahasa (Malay language) equivalent of God in the al Kitab which had started the name-calling (wakakaka) brouhaha three years ago.

Now, just a wee review of the various aspects of the name-calling (wakakaka) tussle:

Legally, High Court Judge Lau Bee Lan had ruled as unconstitutional the Malaysian government’s ban of the use of Allah as the Bahasa equivalent of the word God in the Catholic Herald.

I believe the government (then with Syed Hamid as the Home Minister) had indicated it would appeal. I am not sure where that appeal currently stands?

On the etymological front, a number of academicians including Muslims have traced its usage to pre Islamic era, and explained that both Arab Muslims and Christians refer to their respective gods as Allah. Of course we shouldn't challenge the finding of their highly qualified clarifications, but nonetheless I have something to comment on the etymological aspect of the Allah word shortly.

Historically, it has been agreed that Dutch Christian missionaries sometime in the 16th Century translated the Bible into the Indonesian language by using the word Allah for God.

Why those Dutch missionaries did so has not been questioned nor discussed much but that they had used Allah has been deemed by the Catholic Herald as a precedent which must continue to be accepted even today. I'll also come to this soon.

Politically, of the two Malay-Muslim parties, UMNO said-says ‘no’, PAS said ‘it’s alright’ but something new has just cropped up, where PAS has now changed its mind about the word Allah as the equivalent of God in the Malay language version of the Bible.

Yes, PAS has just said ‘no’ as well (to add to UMNO’s 'nay'), showing its lamentable character in the same way as had been indicated by its recently disintegrated 'promise' wakakaka that non-Muslims won’t be affected by Islamic laws (and/or municipality rules based on Islamic moral values).

PAS’ lack of reliability in its belakang pusing (volte face) from its promise has been a classic case of the Malay idiom cakap ta’serupa bikin. No mate, you can't trust any politician, even and especially those from a religious party, be it Islamic, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Confucianist, Taoist, Bahāʾīs or Ayah Pin-ish, etc, wakakaka.

But let’s leave out this troubling though not unexpected side of PAS vis-à-vis non-Muslims in this post, where we can then discuss the topic in a future post.

This post is about the use of the word Allah as the Bahasa (Malay language) equivalent of God in the Bible.


And I'll be frank that I will undoubtedly hurt many of my Christian friends as I did 3 years ago when this topic first flared up. While I believe on principle there ought not to be a monopolistic use of any word or words, I can understand the Muslim community's worries about the Church’s obdurate intention to use this word, especially more so when I know it’s obligatory, nay, a sacred duty of the Church and Christians to be ‘missionary’ (evangelistic).

Yes, I'm afraid on a personal basis, kaytee isn't all that supportive of the Church’s insistence on using the Allah word to represent/indicate/describe their Christian God in the Malay language.

Perhaps let me declare my religious affiliations so that you can be clear where I am coming from (or going to, wakakaka).

I was born to very staunch Buddhist parents. My late dad and his mum were devoted Theravada Buddhists whilst my late mum was Mahayana Buddhist, not that they knew the difference between those schools of Buddhism. Once I attempted to explain to my mum (when she was alive) about the schools’ doctrinal differences but I gave up when I saw the annoyed look on her face, wakakaka.

Both my granddads were non-practising Taoists-Confucianists, which may explain why I'm an atheist, wakakaka. Anyway, I am neither Christian nor Muslim.


Okay, let’s consider the etymological angle of the Allah word first. Yes, I'm confident of the accuracy of those who have traced the Allah word and its usage to pre Islamic era, and who have also explained that both Arab Muslims and Christians refer to their respective gods as Allah.

Yup, I, you, we have all heard the several arguments that Allah is an Arabic word meaning god and not necessarily that of the God of Islam only ... yadda yadda yadda ... and therefore Christians have every right to employ this Allah word because of the word’s genericalness.

Notwithstanding its etymological certification, let me tell you what I think of the pro arguments.

First of all, my caustic remarks wakakaka do not apply to all, but only those who feel my sarcasm, wakakaka.

I am not surprised by the hypocrisy of some of those who advocate this argument, that because Allah is a generic Arabic word for god (not necessarily that of Islam,) the Church and Christians in Malaysia have the right to use it as the Bahasa translation of God.

They are/were hypocritical because:

(a) these very ‘some’ people have been those who have been at laughing (as well as sneering) at the orthodox Malay Muslims (or if you like, Muslim Malays) for wanting to be Arabs or to be Arab-ized rather than just being Muslims, from and in the way they dress in Middle-Eastern desert garb instead of our Malaysian tropical baju or sarung kebaya, etc, or resort to Arabic words when Malay equivalents are available, etc etc.

* Incidentally I'm also one who laughs at Arab wannabes, wakakaka.

Now, aren't these Christians and their supporters, in arguing for the use of the generic Arabic word Allah as the Bahasa equivalent of God, themselves also Arab wannabes?

(b) hey man, aren't we talking about a Bahasa word for God? Why then invoke an Arabic word?

If they don’t like the word Tuhan because the Church argued that in some instances, the word Tuhan (God) does not convey the required meaning in a biblical passage, why not a Hebrew word then, when after all, Judaism and Christianity share the same God, rather than the one Muslims believe in (yes, this is debatable too)?

Just as an aside, I wonder what’s the Bahasa word for Father in the Malay language al Kitab? Would it be ‘Ab or Ayah? Please let me know!

Look, there are so many names for the Hebrew-Christian God, such as YVWH (Yahweh or, Jehovah), Elohim, Adonai, as well as the following (with their English meanings):

Adonai-Jehovah - The Lord our Sovereign
El-Elyon -- The Lord Most High
El-Olam - The Everlasting God
El-Shaddai - The God Who is Sufficient for the Needs of His People
Jehovah-Elohim - The Eternal Creator
Jehovah-Jireh - The Lord our Provider
Jehovah-Nissi - The Lord our Banner
Jehovah-Ropheka - The Lord our Healer
Jehovah-Shalom - The Lord our Peace
Jehovah-Tsidkenu - The Lord our Righteousness
Jehovah-Mekaddishkem - The Lord our Sanctifier
Jehovah-Sabaoth - The Lord of Hosts
Jehovah-Shammah - The Lord is Present
Jehovah-Rohi - The Lord our Shepherd
Jehovah-Hoseenu - The Lord our Maker
Jehovah-Eloheenu - The Lord our God

And many many more exists.

God's names - Kabbala

Will this range of Godly names in Hebrew satisfy the Church’s requirement that in some instances, the word Tuhan does not adequately convey the required meaning in a biblical passage?

C’mon, tell me why the Church must use the Arabic word for God and not the Hebrew equivalent? [Just leave the historical angle aside for a while as I'll be coming to it soon].

Let’s see what the Tanakh (Jewish bible) says in Genesis 1:1?

"In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth ...".

Now, tell me, doesn't that indicate to us, in fact indisputably, what is God’s name? So why won’t the Church use Elohim?

Just as a double check, let’s look at the English Bible [King James Version] of the same passage, where it confirms that "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth ... "

Thus, on top of Tuhan for God, we have the Hebraic Elohim for God, that is, if the Church doesn't like the word Tuhan. And as I have shown above, there are many more alternatives for God or God’s names.

In Hebrew (not Aramaic), some have argued that the word Elohim is plural, but as per the Tanakh it is considered as a singular noun and indeed uses the verb for such. It is meant to signal the single God of Israel, but you know what, it is actually ideal for the Christian concept of God as a Trinity, Three yet One.

Velly gnam gnam one lah!

Let us now turn our attention on the man who started it all, Father Lawrence Andrew of the Catholic Church and the editor of the Catholic Herald.

Given the experts’ etymological and historical clarifications on the Allah word, I am in no doubt that Father Lawrence Andrew is on strong legal grounds to use it ... and indeed we know that the court has supported his stand.

But I have always believed that religion is about faith and morality and not legality or for that matter, political approval. Thus I find it unfortunate that the Father Andrew and the Catholic Herald had taken the issue to the courts. Surely on a matter of religious faith and knowledge, there are numerous other names of God it could have use beside Allah. I view its arguments for the use of Allah as seemingly based on obduracy and legality rather than any plausible unavoidable reason.

So why has Father Lawrence Andrew stubbornly insisted on doing so?

Let me start off by quoting what he told AFP in April 2009 about the release of a new Malay language bible that does not use the word ‘Allah’. The news item was picked up by the Free Republic, a conservative American online news portal.

Father Andrew was mightily displeased because the new Malay-language Bible had referred to God as … hello hello there … Elohim rather than Allah.

He stated "The Catholic bible that the church uses has the word Allah for God whereas in comparison, this one does not."

"The new Malay bible weakens the argument for using the word Allah because some groups are trying to substitute God with a foreign name, whereas Allah is the Malay word for God and has been the accepted translation for centuries."

Firstly, I find it rather bizarre, incomprehensible and illogical that Father Andrew would assert Elohim to be a foreign name for God (which BTW it is, but wait) while in the same breath dare to claim Allah is not (but a Malay word).

I can’t find any logic in his bizarre assertion that Allah is a home grown Malay word while at the same time mouthing the 'foreignness' of the Judeo-Christian Elohim.

Haven’t the language experts already asserted that the word Allah could be traced to its usage even in pre Islamic era in the Middle-East, and also explained that both Arab Muslims and Christians refer to their respective gods with that Arabic word, hence it has to be an Arabic (not Malay) word.

Methinks, or rather I'm worried, Father Andrew had become like Dr Syed Ali Tawfik Al-Attas, the director general of the Institute of Islamic Understanding, who informed us in 2006 that:

“The Melayu is defined as first being a Muslim and because he’s a Muslim, he follows the customs and traditions of the Malays which are derived from Islam, followed by the language of the Malays which (also) derives from Islam.”

"... the language of the Malays ... derives from Islam"?

Yes, Father Andrew would not be unlike Dr Syed Ali Tawfik Al-Attas, in claiming Allah is a Malay word for God [while in the same breath arguing Elohim is a foreign name].

I wonder whether Father Andrew would consider 'Yeshua', 'Isa' or even 'Jesus' as ‘foreign’ names, and seek their Bahasa equivalents? And as he is from the Catholic Church, may I ask him what he considers the Holy Virgin Mother’s name of 'Mary' or 'Mariam' to be in Bahasa?

Then one just has to ask why he considered the new Malay-language bible as ‘weakening’ the use of Allah when it has actually reinforced the original reference to God’s name as Elohim?

Or, perhaps in his subconscious, he had meant that '... the new Malay-language bible as ‘weakening’ his and the Church insistence on the use of Allah'.

Now consider this, hasn't the Catholic Mass which was originally conducted only in Latin, since been changed to the language of the locals? So why can’t the use of Allah in the Indonesian al Kitab, as translated by Dutch missionaries hundreds of years ago, be changed to Elohim, ...

... that is, assuming the Church insists on using the Indonesian version of al Kitab and not the newly published Malaysian edition?

It seems that Father Andrew had been dead set on using the Arabic word Allah to refer to the Christian God, regardless of the superior pedigree (in the Judeo-Christian context) of God’s other names as revealed in the Bible.

And on the pedigree of God’s names, just to reiterate, the first revelation of God’s personal identity has been in the Tanakh (Jewish Bible) Book of Genesis 1:1 which says: "In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth."

So, why did Father Andrew consider Elohim a foreign name as if it's alien to Christianity, while Allah is not? Aren't we talking about the God of the Judeo-Christian faith? Or, are we discussing the God of the Islamic faith?

The second name of the Judeo-Christian Divine One as revealed to Moses was YVWH or Yahweh (later modified to Jehovah) which means 'I AM WHO I AM' or 'I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE'.

Yahweh is mentioned 6823 times in the Old Testament, while Elohim scores 2570 times. How many times is Allah?

In fact Elohim is used 66 times at the beginning of the Bible before any other Hebrew word appears for the English word God.

There are various other names besides Elohim and Yahweh to describe God and Jesus (eg. Immanuel), with the latter being found in the New Testament.

Really, what is the motive behind Father Andrew’s rejection of Elohim, the original name of the Judeo-Christian God, and his obdurate insistence on the use of the Arabic Allah to refer to the Christian God when locally it has always been recognized that Allah refers to the God of the Islamic faith?

We now arrive at the historical aspect of the issue, that Dutch Christian missionaries sometime in the 16th Century translated the Bible into the Indonesian language by using the word Allah for God.

As mentioned, why those Dutch missionaries did so had not been questioned but that they had used Allah has been seized by the Catholic Herald as a precedent which must continue to be accepted even today.

Firstly, the Dutch were known by the Indons as cruel and arrogant colonialists who didn't give two figs about the natives and their feelings.

Secondly, let us also not forget that Christianity and indeed Islam as well are both evangelistic missionary religions with an obligation on the faithful to convert the so-called pagans, for altruistic reasons of course.

But the late A Powell Davies, a minister of the All Souls Church in Washington, advised us that “True religion, like our founding principles, requires that the rights of the disbeliever be equally acknowledged with those of the believer.” I reckon the well-meaning bloke was pissing into the wind.

I dare say those Dutch Christian missionaries were out to convert the Indonesian pagans (Muslim and others) into Christianity with whatever it took, and would have found the use of the word Allah as a convenient substitute for the Christian God in persuading the native Muslims that the conversion to Christianity would be nothing more than a seamless worship to the same Allah, albeit with some minor adjustments to the rituals.

Thus the argument that the 16th Century Dutch had been doing this or that during dictatorial colonial circumstances would today be just not good enough for the Church to persist along that line.

Besides, we know the Bahasa word Tuhan is available, and if it is not suitable enough, then there are numerous alternatives to the God word without the need to infringe on the Muslims’ Allah.

The other argument that the local Church is dependent on Indonesian publication has been overthrown by Father Andrew himself, when he told AFP in April 2009 there was a release of a new Malay language bible that does not use the word Allah.

That he didn't like it is beside the point but it disproves that old argument that the Church had no choice but to use the Allah word as it is dependent on the Indon publication of al Kitab, which carries the Allah word.

It’s also an insult to Sabahans and Sarawakians to argue they would be confused if the al Kitab carries the word Tuhan or Elohim or Yahweh or Adonai for God.

Really, I have to ask again of Father Lawrence Andrew and the Church: “What is really your goal in obdurately pursuing the use of the word Allah to refer to the Christian God in a Malay-language newsletter and Bible when so many other names of your Christian God, with even better biblical pedigree, remain available?”

Friedrich Nietzsche reminded us: “Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen, few in pursuit of the goal.”

But all my views above do not mean I support PAS’ belakang pusing, wakakaka.

Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Psychedelic psychic power?

FMT - DAP leadership must share power

Sweetie Selena Tay is an amazing reporter (or journalist) for Free Malaysia Today. In one of her previous article Pakatan's 'shadow cabinet' list she claimed she could even speak with a non-existent Pakatan 'shadow minister', so shadowy that he seemed like a miasmatic mist of ........, wakakaka, okay lah ... mystery then, wakakaka.

Maybe she's psychic? ;-)

I had then commented her Pakatan shadow cabinet was a Kafkaesque joke – and if you don’t know the meaning of this word, ask Mr Manmanlai, wakakaka - with the potential for Pakatan to outdo BN in the numbers department. 15 ministries including shared deputy prime minister-ships were listed, with each having at least 3 if not more names, making a total of no less than 45 and probably exceeding 60. WTF!

Sweetie Selena admitted that her list has been compiled from a combination of:

(a) discussions with a Pakatan MP who wished to remain anonymous ... 

... but who wakakaka, I suspect, was probably from PKR. As usual, by suggesting some key nominees in the secret list, he was pre-empting PKR's supposed allies from choice ministries wakakaka,

(b) observations from the performances and statements of Pakatan MPs .....,

... and undoubtedly, the most mysterious of all, wakakaka ........ 

(c) personal conversations with the shadow ministers, their friends or their acquaintances, where in the first place, shadow ministers, other than the PM-designate, don’t exist ........

I was very cruel to her when I wrote: No, I won’t hold much store by the list that Sweetie has written, perhaps more to mitigate against the BN sting that Pakatan is still incapable of coming up with a shadow cabinet than it be a genuine secret Pakatan plan.

Of course I have my opinion as to why, but the far more important point was my amazement at Sweetie's claim of talking with non-existent shadow ministers ..... unless of course she had the conversation with the self-appointed wet-dreaming shadow Home Minister wakakaka.

I hope she as a DAP member (so she claimed in her recent article) didn't/doesn't take my criticisms too badly as I had also excoriated another DAP sweetie, Hannah Yeoh, for being mathematically challenged in her support for Anwar Ibrahim’s 916 (Hannah took law, not maths so it's okay, wakakaka), as follows:

I love but don't blindly idolize her, wakakaka

The saddest consequence of Anwar’s 916 debacle was a DAP sweetie like Hannah Yeoh being swept into that mesmerizing manmanlai miasmatic mist of malarkey – see my February 2009 post DAP should stop defending Anwar Ibrahim where Hannah stupidly wrote (yes, I support DAP but that doesn't mean I am like some people, blind as a bat wakakaka):

“Those who argue that the political crisis in Perak now is a taste of Pakatan Rakyat’s own medicine – a reference to Sept 16 – fail to see the key differences between the two.”

“When Anwar claimed to have the numbers to form the federal government, he wrote to Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, requesting him to convene an emergency sitting of Parliament. This was rejected by the prime minister.”

“The next constitutional option was to press for the dissolution of Parliament to make way for fresh elections. This too was not entertained.”

“Anwar exhausted every constitutional means available to him. If Pakatan were to act unconstitutionally and lure defections, then we will be having a new government today. So, you can’t say that Najib’s coup in Perak and the Pakatan plan – Sept 16 – were one and the same.”

Leaving aside the different issue of Najib’s coup d’état in Perak which involved someone high up who should have stayed out of direct politics, Hannah Yeoh was stupid (and I hope the sweetie isn't now) to claim that Anwar had the right to demand AAB convene an emergency sitting of Parliament or to press for the dissolution of Parliament to make way for fresh elections.

WTF for, just after an election where AAB’s BN trounced Pakatan by 140 seats to 82? Was she mathematically challenged?

Now, would you believe it, the mystery of the phantom (wakakaka) shadow ministers has just become even more mysterious because on re-checking her shadow cabinet article I found the words ‘shadow ministers’ mysteriously missing like Jim Thompson, wakakaka. Oh, the mystery of it!

Jim Thompson disappeared in Cameron Highlands on 26 March 1967
Joining the Malaysian PFF in the biggest man hunt in Malaysian history
were a Sarawak border scout, bomohs, aborigine pawang and European psychics
To this day, the mystery of his disappearance remains

Surely this calls for the use of that wonderful Indonesian word anéh as in anéh bin ajaib (extremely strange, wonder of wonders) wakakaka.  

Hey, maybe sweetie didn't write it and I was, no not psychic, but psychedelically hallucinating, wakakaka. Hmmm, I wonder whether she read my post, wakakaka.

Never mind, but incidentally, just where is Hartalmsm when you need them? Busy attacking politicians like Lim GE, I suppose? Wakakaka.

Oh incidentally, on 30 June this year, sweetie wrote another article titled The doctor decides …? which states:

Three days ago, a reporter friend (sweetie Selena has always been very discreet, never mentioning her sources, wakakaka) forwarded a text message to this columnist which says that the doctor has taken over Umno and right now the grassroots reports are being forwarded to him.

But the big news is that the doctor is planning to have the polls held in September. This is because it seems that the doctor has got tired of Prime Minister Najib Tun Razak’s feet-dragging and lack of confidence … […]

Wakakkaa, I had then posted my take on her headline-grabbing coup d’état by Dr M as:

We may yet again take it that Sweetie’s latest article of Dr Mahathir mounting a silent coup d’état to launch a September poll was sourced from PKR, especially in the light of UMNO information that Dr Mahathir has affirmed Najib should be complimented for not calling for early election (or if you like, ordering Najib to hang on for as late/long as possible).

Wakakaka again.

Anyway, back to her latest article DAP leadership must share power in FMT. Just a few extracts I wish to comment on as follows:

In addition to the above, it is good if one Malay and one Indian is given a prestigious parliament seat to contest. DAP cannot continue to talk about a ‘Malaysian Malaysia’ if the Malays and Indians feel left out.

Everyone including the Orang Asal must have a sense of belonging in the party. The Orang Asal too must be given a popular parliament or state seat to contest*. DAP leaders must break the race barrier and the best time to do this is none other than at the coming 13th general election.

* Note she mentioned Orang Asal and not Asli, and why has sweetie suggested this?

Sarawakian Penan

Wakakaka, I suspect that if we need to unravel this particular mystery (out of the many mysteries) of her writing, we might have to re-read my posts on the last Sarawak state elections - see below.

In particular please read the first two, where Bian Baru, PKR's Sarawak chief and Nik Nazmi, PKR's head of communication(?) merajuk like green-eyed budak2 kecil after DAP's resounding victory in the state elections.

Nik Nazmi had then challenged DAP to stand in a Malay-Melanau majority seat but of course with Nik conveniently forgetting it was his party which denied other Pakatan component parties from contesting in most of Sarawak state constituencies - perhaps Nik's challenge to DAP might explain sweetie's urging DAP to stand an Orang Asal in a parliamentary seat - just my speculation lah, wakakaka:


Sweetie claimed to be a DAP member who had voted in the DAP Women’s Congress recently on 09 Dec but for her to suggest in her article DAP leadership must share power that "it is good if one Malay and one Indian is given a prestigious parliament seat to contest", and while I accept her suggestion on DAP Malay candidates and indeed it should be more than just one, I am flabbergasted by her inane suggestion, yes, inane suggestion that “one Indian is given a prestigious parliament seat to contest”.

Isn’t she as a voting member of DAP aware of the current number of DAP MPs and indeed ADUNs who are Indians?

Please take a look at the 7 DAP Indian MPs (not just one proposed by her for GE-13) and 11 DAP Indian ADUNs (the 12th in Malim Nawar having hopped away), and dear MIC and PKR wakakaka eat your hearts out.

Karpal Singh – Gelugor
Dr P Ramasamy – Batu Kawan
M Kulasegaran – Ipoh Barat
M Manogaran – Teluk Intan
Charles Santiago - Klang
Gobind Singh Deo – Puchong
John Fernandez – Seremban

wakakaka - what a victory

S Veerapan – Repah
K Arumugam – Rahang
P Gunasekaren – Senawang
Dr P Ramasamy – Perai (also MP for Batu Kawan)
Jagdeet Singh - Datok Keramat
A Tanasekharan – Bagan Dalam
R. Sanisvara Nethaji Rayer - Seri Delima
A. Sivanesan - Sungkai
V. Sivakumar - Tronoh
Sivasubramanian - Buntong
M. Manoharan - Kota Alam Shah
(one bloke was given the chance to stand in and had become the ADUN in Malim Nawar but ...)

But to be frank, I'm not surprised by sweetie's strange (anéh wakakaka) perception of DAP, and this was confirmed by her assertion that "... the only successful multi-racial party so far is none other than PKR."

Apart from the above, I've been perturbed by Selena Tay’s series of articles which appear, at least to me, to have emanated as if directly from the inner core of PKR Headquarters.

Okay, we know about her now-very-phantom phantom-ish shadow ministers wakakaka, ...

... but in addition, we have come to be familiar with sweetie's fondness in dropping un-named names (excuse the contradiction in terms but given sweetie's style of writing, what else could I do?) such as 'A neutral Chinese political analyst ...' in her Pakatan to win with 118 seats?, and '... a Pakatan MP who wished to remain anonymous ...', etc. 

I suppose we could all venture a guess who that marvellous 'neutral Chinese political analyst' would be but then again, it won't be much of a guess ... wakakaka, and was it necessary to assert the Chinese political analst is 'neutral'? wakakaka.

wonder who's that Chinese bloke standing in front of the tanks, wakakaka

Dear dear oh dearie me, dearest sweetie Selena, since you are so keen on DAP setting up Malay and Indian Bureaus to look after Malay and Indian interests, why don’t you write something to clear up those nasty rumours surrounding the alleged ouster of Nallakaruppan from PKR and how he was allegedly ‘promised’ he would contest  n the Ijok by-election in 2007 only to find Khalid Ibrahim nominated instead, and yes, how he was allegedly ‘instructed’ not to compete against Azmin Ali in the party’s VP position in an earlier PKR party election.

Why don’t you write too on the last PKR party elections and the allegations surrounding the party polling process made or alluded to by Haris Ibrahim, Jonson Chong, Zaid Ibrahim and a host of other erstwhile PKR members as well as those still in that party like Badrul Hisham (Chegubard) and Mustaffa Kamil?

chegubard and his allegations re PKR party polls

If you need to refresh yourself, you may wish to refer to my posts:


Blessed DAP to have a psychic member, wakakaka