Wednesday, May 26, 2021

Crowded trains will defeat fight against pandemic

Crowded trains will defeat fight against pandemic

YOURSAY | ‘If you reduce capacity and frequency of trains, won't there be more people at the stations?’

Commuters alarmed by packed trains after reduced frequency

Hmmm: We really need people with brains to run our country. Right now, we cannot even get our public transportation planning right. And the government has totally lost control over the pandemic.

Their standard operating procedures (SOPs) are not considered properly. It is okay to reduce the capacity of the trains. But in so doing, you must increase the frequency, not reduce it.

Any primary school kid will be able to tell you that. Why is it that grown men put in charge of such an important department not able to comprehend it?

If you reduce the capacity and frequency of trains, won't there be more people at the stations? How would you then achieve your goal of stopping Covid-19 transmission?

Please think your actions right through to the end. Don't assume that just because you have reduced the capacity of the trains that you have done your part in fighting Covid-19 transmission.

Your action of reducing the frequency has neutralised your earlier action of reducing capacity. In other words, you are just going through the motions and achieving nothing at the end of the day.

Pokokelapa: Public transport is supposed to be a service for the people and not looked at as a profit-making venture.

There were 213 people on the train when the LRT accident occurred, or about 50 people packed in each cabin. That is definitely overcrowding when SOP is supposed to be in force.

OCT: No wonder Selangor and Kuala Lumpur are having high incidents of Covid-19 infections.

Photos have shown that the KLCC station was packed with people when the Light Rail Transit (LRT) collision occurred.

The government can expect Covid-19 cases to increase further given the current situation of crowded stations, buses and trains.

The government cannot fault the rakyat as the cause for the increase in Covid cases. It's the government who is actually putting the rakyat in harm's way by inadequate measures and facilities.

GreenViper4010: It doesn't take a PhD in mathematics to figure out that by reducing the transport frequency, particularly in the LRT/MRT, the result would be an increase in passenger density which is already too high.

The Kelana Jaya line with its two and four coach trains is already crowded during rush hours, made worse by reduced train frequency and the 8pm "closing" time.

While the overcrowding does not explain the accident, it certainly didn't help in keeping casualties low.

Whose fault was that? Someone should be held accountable, whatever the reason.

Apalah: We feel sorry for LRT users packed liked sardines on the train. Did you watch the video or the photos of the station - it was chock-a-block. A sea of people in a confined space. Another cluster in the making.

At the time of the LRT accident, it was around 9pm. Why such a crowd of people during the movement control order (MCO)?

Indeed, has the MCO outcome matched its objectives? If not, then expect the three days moving average curve to keep climbing.

It’s time to restudy why it’s isn’t working and redesign the SOP to cut down people’s movement and crowding in public places.

Anonymous_15897: Reducing the frequency of LRT and the hours of restaurants is going to increase crowding, not reduce it.

Due to fewer trains, more people will be queuing and they will be queuing for a longer time. Fewer trains mean more packed trains. It’s simple logic.

People will be rushing to restaurants and crowding there to tapau (take away) food before it closes. Whereas previously some will buy their food later, now all have to buy food by a certain time.

This idiotic SOP is causing more crowding, not less.

Public Transit Better Than Highways: Reducing the frequency and capacity but receiving the same number of passengers would only lead to an increased density of passengers in trains and buses.

And there was never any enforcement on the 50 percent vehicle capacity rule. Has anyone in the Prasarana board of management ever taken a train or bus before?

Centre View: The authorities should investigate if Prasarana is doing its part to comply with SOP. Just don’t only target small businesses/individuals and harass them.

The high human traffic venues (including malls) can be super spreaders.

EyeInTheSky2021: If you want to reduce capacity, don't reduce frequency. You are back to square one as the trains will be crowded to the maximum.

You should have the frequency as per normal so that this is spaced out. What kind of logic did they come up with? Stupid and silly sounds like it.

Business First: Yes, this is another example of the SOPs that they come up with without thinking.

I can add one more - all food stalls including sundry shops can only open at 8am. Most factories start work at 8am, some even earlier.

Today I noticed many searching for a place to buy their breakfast and they could not do so. Stallholders lose their "main customers" and all those who rely on packed food for breakfast or lunch go hungry.

Well done, Perikatan Nasional (PN) government. Just when you thought that after a year, they would have learnt, these leaders and civil servants who advise them have learnt nothing.

Well, never mind, remember to give them a bonus for all the sacrifice they are making for the country staying at home on full pay.


  1. As usual Minister of Transport Wee KHAT Siong say nothing. Just Ikut Arahan.

  2. QUOTE
    So what went wrong, Prasarana?

    THE LRT train collision on Monday really shocked the nation. For over 25 years, the driverless light rail transit system and pride of KL has diligently served the urban commuters in the Klang Valley with no fuss, no frills and no major incidents. But on Monday evening, more than 400 passengers were violently tossed and thrown about in the coaches, when two trains met head on. It must have been shocking for them, who never imagined that a short journey on a reliable mode of transport would end in a hospital bed on the eve of Wesak Day. The Prasarana press call turned out to be an even more shocking event. Led by non-other than their chairman, Prasarana staff must be cringing in embarrassment over how it was conducted. The senior staff must have wished that they could hide inside the LRT tunnel and pretend to kiss the train instead. Sixty-four passengers were seriously injured, six of them are in the ICU and three are fighting for their lives. And yet the chairman had the audacity to belittle the incident while struggling to come up with facts that should have been easy for him. His many silly remarks and attempts at jokes were completely unnecessary. He even made fun of the serious questions from the press. The fact that he failed to appreciate the enormity of the tragedy annoyed many listeners and this was abusively expressed on social media. Ultimately, the press conference gave rise to more questions than answers. Blame was squarely put on a single driver who went to rescue a failed train and tried to drive it manually.

    It didn’t help that the transport minister, who said an investigative task force would be set up to write a report, drew his own conclusions before an investigation even began. Seriously, Prasarana, are you telling us that your SOP is so bad that whenever a train breaks down only one person is sent out to investigate? So when something goes wrong, as it did in this case, only one person gets the blame, not a team? Where was your technical team? Why wasn’t it at the site? We understand that all the trains are driverless and that they are steered by people in the control centre. The operation is built with many safety features to monitor many elements that could go wrong. Speed, safe distance against a train ahead, opening of passenger doors and auto braking systems for any eventuality, are some of the common ones.
    Many readers were asking who drove the train (No 181) laden with passengers. Why it did not stop when it detected another train (No.240) in front, on the same track, a short distance ahead? What happened to the detection system? What about the auto-braking systems for both trains? Were they both not working? What has the control centre got to say? Does it have a supervisor? What about the CCTV cameras? They won’t tell any lies, surely.

  3. ....con't

    Back to your chairman, his behavior during the press conference left much to be desired. Prasarana is owned by MoF, which means it is government owned. Surely, there must be a simple maxim to follow for keeping the image of MoF intact. After all, public funds are utilised to run LRT services, paying for both capital expenditure and operating expenditure, which includes the chairman’s salary and all the perks.
    The question is, is he the best person for the job? After seeing the way he conducted himself over the incident, many Malaysians are not sure anymore. Surely, MoF would feel the same too, unless the entire government team in charge of public transit in this country is blind, deaf and mute, which many doubt is the case. Is there a dearth of talented people for this particular job? Is there no Malaysian at all, with the right experience and qualification, equal to the task? Someone with the right attitude and in the right frame of mind. Having an acceptable level of decency would certainly help, more so empathy and the capacity to respond responsibly to the press and the public.
    Or is that too much to ask from this so-called “prihatin” government? I think many of us would like to hear directly from the MoF, if not the PM, on this issue.

    We Malaysians do not think we can continue to lead with such an appalling behavior. – May 26, 2021.

    Rosli Khan reads The Malaysian Insight.

  4. Next conclusion from Wee KHAT Siong:

    Train Driver got instruction to drive wrong way from assistant junior Control Centre operator because his Supervisor had stomach ache and had to go jamban.

  5. mathematics with sekolah kebangsaan characteristic.

    1. Mathematic yang di ajar dan copy dari Formosa!

    2. Engineers trained on Formosa mathematics built the world's most advanced semiconductor fabrication lines.
      Even the Yanks, who invented the processes in the first place, and 1.4 Billion DaGe horde couldn't keep up.

    3. Know nothing fart!

      Most of the hands-on engineers in tsmc r trained in CCP China.

      Go & check out the details in tsmc's internal memo. The best place is to cross check the names of the authors of those tsmc published papers in its claimed achievements!

      China made a mistake of believing in a free & open world market where politics WOULDN'T interfere into the various interconnecting branches of the marketing/manufacturing process.

      Since can purchase from open market then no need to reinvent the wheel to fabricate yrself.

      So so wrong under the demoNcratized marketing economy!