Saturday, July 28, 2018

Politically Condemned Dr Ramasamy abandoned by DAP?

From Malaysiakini's The men who hunt P Ramasamy by Commander (rtd) S Thayaparan (extracts only):




What I want to know is why hasn’t there been a sustained interfaith condemnation against Zakir Naik and unconditional support for Ramasamy? Do you really think that the other non-Muslim faiths are not in the cross-hairs of Zakir Naik and his supporters? Do you really think that this is solely an Indian/Hindu issue?

Hate to break it to those non-Muslims who do not want to rock the boat but the reality is that coddling political operatives who just want to curry favour with the Pakatan Harapan Grand Poobah and demonstrate that they are not the power behind the throne is exactly how the MCA got its “running dog” credentials.

Which brings me to those big fat cowards, the DAP. The DAP wants an explanation from Ramasamy about his alleged links with the LTTE? Really? The snivelling remarks by Penang Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow that he has full confidence that Ramasamy can explain himself is the height of political expediency.




the Muslims will tear us apart if we interfere - fCk him 

To the mandarins of the DAP, Ramasamy has already explained himself. What is needed is the DAP have the backbone to support a political operative of theirs instead of this weaselling stance which appears as support but sounds more like disavowment.

Dodgy legal arguments

How many times has Professor Ramasamy defended the actions and rhetoric of the DAP? How many times have statements been made about the DAP or their political operatives and Ramasamy has, on cue, responded in the press? How many times has Ramasamy come to the aid of the members of the DAP so much so that he gained a reputation of being a “DAP Indian apologist” by the Umno crowd and those who support the DAP but not specific stands taken by the party?


And this is his reward after his long history of being an able defender of the party? He gets to explain himself on charges which have no bearing on the issues at hand but are red herrings by the deep Islamic state to protect a possible asset.



just focus on your Sudoku - act dunno like we did when he was shelled by the late Bhai in 2012 

But do you think we can expect Lim Guan Eng, sec-gen of the DAP and the nation's new "powerful" (wakakaka) Minister to dare say anything in defence of Ramasamy when to do so will annoy Muslims?



please wake me up when Farmer Maddy calls for another expose on a red file 

Why, Guan Eng has even recently spoke out against Israel's new Jewish nation-state laws, which my suspicious nature and 6th sense tell me Guan Eng's verbal action against Israel has been all about currying favour with local Muslims.






Lim Father & Son have been conspicuously silent on the matter of Zakir Naik, his feud with P Ramasamy (DCM II of Penang) and the intrusion of Dr Asri Zainul Abidin into the vitriolic verbal vendetta of two Indians, one a foreigner wanted by Indian police and barred from entering numerous Western & European states, and the other, a Malaysian citizen, DCM of Penang State, reputed international peace negotiator, distinguished academician and an outstanding citizen.

Commander (rtd) S Thayaparan has been spot on when he lambasted those big fat cowards, the DAP for forsaking its own member, Ramasamy, who is currently under siege from the ultra right wing supporters of Zakir Naik, chief among whom has been Dr Asri. The PDRM is investigating Ramasamy when they should have deported or extradited Zakir Naik back to India where the anti-terrorist police are waiting for him, all because new Tokong in town has given the Mamak his 'protection'.


GEORGE TOWN, July 28 – DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng wants all questions pertaining to the controversy surrounding Penang DAP vice-chairman Dr P. Ramasamy and Sri Lankan terrorist group, Liberation Tigers of Tamil Ellam (LTTE), to be referred to the state DAP.

Lim brushed off reporters’ queries when asked to comment on the issue.

“Who asked you to get my comments (on Ramasamy’s alleged links with LTTE)?

“I think it is better for you (the media) to refer this to Chow, who is also Chief Minister,” he told newsmen.

Dr Asri (Perlis Mufti) has a longish feud with Dr Ramasamy over local Hindu-Islamic affairs. The Mufti, once considered to be moderate and reasonably popular with the nons, has recently been showing his 'fangs'.

Yes, he is a man who has composed an insulting Malay poem about Hindus, the first half of which went (translated roughly into English):

“When those who worship cows unite, and call for our preacher to be troubled, to be given to a cruel government that prays to fire, the burner of widows … in another continent, which teaches people to make castes, to the unfortunate point of being called pariahs…” .



Guan Eng has already abandoned Ramasamy on the Isle of Malaysian Untouchables, the political equivalent of Penang's once-Pulau Jerejak - Penangites call the island 'T'ai Koe Soo' which means the Isle of lepers.

But where then is Lim Kit Siang, the most raucous noisy de facto Minister of Anti Najib Propaganda?



the most raucous noisy de facto Minister?

that's sheer bullshit - I can be absolutely discreet as I have been lately on above issues which I had raved and ranted for 30 over years but am now completely silent on


besides it's a Penang problem - my son and I are federalists
   

13 comments:

  1. Cdr(Rtd) Thayaparan is clueless to understand why and instead vent his anger because he also needs to be seen protecting his religion against the Wahhabi Indian-Moslem preacher Zakir Naik.

    Don't he realise that most of the DAP top leaders are also of the Abrahamic faith and people of the Books and whether it is Islam, Christianity or Judaism, they all have the same God and have been indoctrinated to looks upon people who are not of their faiths as inferior beings and need to be saved by them? They also like to subtly belittle the faith and religious practices of other religions to make them look more holy and right. In Malaysia, the Moslems are even more bigotry in their speech and actions due to political preachers like the State Muftis, Ustaz, Ulamaks etc.

    Now everyone knows that in India, the Indian-Moslems and Indian-Hindus are enemies in a religios war with no end in sight and which often ended up in religious clashes leading to violence and death. Zakir Naik being an Indian-Moslem preacher from India is no exception from all the other Indian-Moslem fanatics and his preaching of comparative religion esp belittling Hinduism is definitely a carry forward of the enmity from India.

    Zakir Naik also tried to do it against Christianity earlier but was shot down intellectually and exposed as a fraud at times. Having gained no traction against Christianity, he has suddenly found a home in Malaysia where his speeches seem to gain traction among the mostly Sunni Moslems who are more influenced by Wahhabism ideology now compared to the past, due to the many years of Saudi Arabian monies and influence among our politicians, Muftis, clerics and institutions.

    There are a few niggling questions which remain hovering around Zakir Naik and which most are still trying to find answers to.

    "Is Zakir Naik really a terrorist as proclaimed by the Indian Govt.?
    Is his speeches are those like ISIS, DAESH or some other militant Islamic terrorists organisations or his speeches are just inflammatory towards other religions?
    Did he really finance terrorist organisations thru money laundering etc?

    Is it just Zakir Naik carrying over the Indian-Moslem against Indian-Hindus feud from India over to Malaysia?

    And where are the Malaysian Indian religious clerics, preachers rebuttal against Zakir Naik's attack against their religion instead of from just Malaysian Indian politicians and writers. Why are the Malaysian Hindus not protesting on a grand scale like what HINDRAF did before against such blatant attacks on their religion?

    Why should Malaysians get involved in some long religious feud from India?

    And why must Thayaparan try to insinuate that DAP as a political party is not protecting one of it's own in this religious feud when it really is an India's problem and not Malaysia's problem.

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    1. Sometimes I wonder if Thaya and Cheebye motherfucker kaytee is related? Is Thaya uncle of kaytee whom kaytee cheebye fond to seek for his fucking military advice

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    2. swear to you I did not fCk your mother so stop saying motherfucker just to claim you're my son

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  2. LKS is a very hateful person getting to be more and more hateful everyday.

    He has crossed the line by linking Kleptocracy and corruption to Islam to attack Najib. This is beyond decency.

    It would appear that LKS is deliberately fanning racial as well as religious tensions. Is he as well as M trying to create another May 13?

    The way LKS and son is going appears to be fanning social unrest. If that happens, it would provide for M to declare emergency and put himself as President...at the expense of Royals as well as Chinese.

    Just like May 13 where a lot of Chinese were killed, it requires 2 hands to clap.Is LKS not aware of this?

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    1. You haven't even read LKS' statement have you?

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    2. F*ck lah!

      Another one from those rd gang.

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  3. I abhor terrorist organisations , and the LTTE was a particularly repulsive one.
    The accusations against Ramasamy were politically motivated, made by Ktemoc's UMNO Bijan buddies .

    However , it appears Ramasamy really did meet LTTE leaders in the past, so let the police investigate the case.
    There is no expiry time on terrorism cases, and even though LTTE is defunct, Sri Lankan Tamil extremists, including EX-LTTE cadre are still active.

    So it is wise for DAP to let the investigation proceed and not prejudge it.

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  4. Ktemoc crucified Nurul Izzah for being photographed with Jacel Kiram, in unison with the Bijan UMNO mob.
    Kiram's politics are objectionable, but there was and is no accusation of her involvement in terrorist or criminal activities. So she is basically a politician.

    LTTE leaders are a different matter. LTTE was sanctioned by the US and EU as a terrorist organisation. I personally considered LTTE a particularly nasty and odious terrorist group.
    Verbal support for LTTE is protected by constitutional Free Speech rights, but any material support; money, organisation; would be a criminal offence, aiding and abetting a terrorist organisation.

    What was Ramasamy's involvement, then and now ? Even now, Sri Lankan extremists are still active, so the police investigation is legitimate.

    DAP is right to stay out of the issue, let the police investigate.

    If there is no criminal activity, no wrong has been done, and nothing for Ramasamy to worry about.

    If there was criminality, then Ramasamy is in Hot Soup, and DAP should not protect him.

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  5. Why we must continue to expose the Corruption and Abuse of Power of the Bijan administration, and fight those who sneer at the people highlighting the Abuses as Lil' Boy Blues.

    https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/436335
    Court staff have to clean toilets themselves because unpaid cleaners have gone on strike.

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  6. I think DAP made the right decision to let the commitee handle this since there are accusations by muslim groups against Ramasamy. Now nobody can accuse DAP of turning a blind eye to their own members' faults.
    But naturally, KT would be expected put a bad spin on this. That's his hobby these days. Incidentally, what happened to Jocelyn Tan, the Star political commenter who always has nothing bad to say about Najib and nothing good to say about the opposition? Has she gone to Australia to join KT?

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    1. Star has to stay relevant in the New Malaysia, so mesti lah 'sengg mok' sikit....their star writer now on sabbatical leave or maybe even garden leave, wakakkakaka.

      The queen beech could very well be in Down Under hehehehe...bitching with Ktemoc about the fall of humptydumpty and plotting ineffectively ( like taking daily pot shots ) how to put back the disgraced dumpty back together again after the great fall, while tucking in copious amount of mat salleh's version of ayer hitam laksa, wakakkaka

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    2. Perhaps jocelyn is kaytee elder sister.....hahahahaha

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    3. Hehe...the sister writes slightly better...but both certainly know which side of the bread is buttered.

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