Thursday, January 31, 2019

Altantuyaa case - stranger & stranger

Malaysiakini - Altantuya wanted to collect fees for 'submarine purchase' translations (extracts):

Namiraa Gerelmaa (Altantuyas's cousin) 

Altantuya Shaariibuu had intended to collect payments from her former lover Abdul Razak Baginda for her translation work in relation to the government's alleged purchase of submarines, her cousin told the Shah Alam High Court today.

Namiraa Gerelmaa was the third witness in the RM100 million civil suit filed by the slain Mongolian national's family against Razak Baginda, the government, and two others convicted of her murder.

Namiraa, along with their friend identified as Urintuya Gal-Ochir, had accompanied Altantuya during her last trip to Kuala Lumpur in October 2006.

"She (Altantuya) said she was in a relationship with Razak Baginda and wanted to meet him," she said to questions from lawyer Sangeet Kaur Deo.

"She also told me that she had done some translation work for him and wanted to collect (payment) from him."

Namiraa said she made the trip to Malaysia after she was invited to accompany Altantuya, and that she was only told of her cousin's plans shortly after their arrival.

"She also told me that the Malaysian side was going to purchase submarines from the Russians and the meeting was held in France.

"She said that Razak Baginda wanted her to translate from English to Russian and vice-versa for that meeting. She told me there was an agreement."

It's clear now that Altantuyaa wanted to collect fees for purported RUSSIAN 'submarine purchase' and not as we know it now, French Scopenes.

Cousin Namiraa Gerelmaa informed the court that:

"She [Altantuyaa] also told me that the Malaysian side was going to purchase submarines from the Russians and the meeting was held in France."

Does that make sense, having a meeting in France to buy Russian subs?

Why not in Malaysia or Moscow?

If that had been true, the event would have been seen as provocative to the French, wakakaka.

Be that as it may, Cousin Namiraa Gerelmaa was cross-examination by Razak Baginda's lawyer Manjeet Singh Dhillon, who said she, as reported, "exaggerated" many details in her current witness statement, including the alleged purchase of submarines by the government.

Both Namiraa and Urintuya 
[Urintuya Gal-Ochir,a friend, has been another wirness] had testified as witnesses during the Altantuya murder trial in 2007.

Manjeet referred to evidence submitted by Urintuya in the murder trial that Altantuya only talked about coming to Malaysia to meet Razak Baginda, but that there were no other details.

"I put it to you that what Urintuya had said in her statement was all that Altantuya had said about Razak Baginda, nothing more, nothing less," said the lawyer, to which Namiraa disagreed.

Similarly, senior federal counsel Norinna Bahadun, representing the government, said Namiraa was submitting fresh evidence which "never existed" during the criminal trial, and was "tainted" by various media reports on Altantuya's death.

To further questions from lawyer Ramkarpal Singh, Namiraa agreed that she had not mentioned these details, including the alleged submarine deal during the criminal trial

The former freelance journalist claimed that she was "afraid," and that there was no opportunity for her to do so at the time

The court also learned from Namiraa said they had gone to Razak Baginda's office, as Altantuya was looking to claim payments that he owed her for several translation jobs.

What translation job as no Russian submarine was purchased?

Fresh evidence; Russian (instead) of French subs; dinner for three in Paris hence the the meeting was conveniently held in France; Russian to English instead of French to English, vice versa, translation.

These don't look/sound convincing.

I venture (speculate only) that the tragedy was a very "personal" issue between Razak Baginda and Shaariibuu Altantuyaa, and had nothing to do with the subs purchase.

The French company (nor, I bet, the purported Russian company) would have needed a translator.

late P Subramaniam 

And BTW, I read in another MKINI article that two of Razak Baginda's hired PI's (one of whom was P Balasubramaniam) threatened Altantuyaa with one of them warning to throw her from her hotel 8th floor, and then advising her to return to Mongolia.


  1. Malaysia wants to buy submarine from France and there is a need for a translator from Mongolia?. They cannot commumicate in English between them. And a lot of Malaysian believe Altantuya is a translator. Even The Star. God help the country.

    1. Maybe she was the bait but given the title of translator. Ever heard of the “long hair dictionary”?

    2. U must be born yesterday!

      Everything conducted in bolihland by the umno regime MUST have a middle man.
      What is given to his/her function IS just a label!

      So why not a translator from Mongolia?

      Sama2 macam 114 million euros was paid to a purported Malaysia-based shell company, Perimekar, which was controlled at the time by Razak Baginda's wife.

      So why Perimekar?

      The French DCN & the bodohland military COULD NOT conduct the deal ke?

    3. The Russians could have hired her as an incentive (ie bait, or trap) for him to favour their subs over the French tin cans but as it turned out the French won the contract from Malaysia via Perimekar because they offered more sweets (ie money won over long hair dictionary). When the Russians found out that they had lost the contract they wouldn't pay poor Altantuya so she did the logical thing (since she had also gotten pregnant) and came to Malaysia asking to be paid. She thought that would be easier than going after the Russians for payment. She was wrong.

      You may think this is all spy-thriller fiction but in the world of arms trade it is the norm.

    4. Scopenes "French tin cans"?

      Wakakaka, the Indian Navy (which had alreday operated Russian subs) and Australia Navy also bought your "French tin cans"

      I like your comment - you have the makings of a fiction novelist, wakakaka

    5. Scopenes "French tin cans"?


      Scopenes as label with highly reduced capability installations.

      Oooop…… don't forget the 3rd world maintenant mentalities, so famously encoded into the SLA by the nincompoops!

      TS's fiction is definitely a better class of investigative preambles to the TRUTH than yr pompously tweaked farts to cover yr atasan le.

    6. The Scorpenes have a good reputation , technically, in the military world.
      The business deal that Malaysia engaged in is a different matter and highly questionable.
      "Another Najib buddy tied to Scorpene scandal"

      What exactly did Perimekar do to get paid RM 534 Million is deeply troubling. The one clue we have comes from its mandatory Registrar of Companies file submission.

      "They have granted dividends of RM56.2 million in 2009 (66 percent of the turnover) and RM18.7 million in 2010 (81 percent of the turnover),"

      I do not know any legitimate company that is able to pay out 81% of turnover as dividends to its shareholders.

      Those are usually "Shell companies". Hollow companies created to launder, rinse and cleanse the dirty money coming into them, and they emerge clean and legitimate as Halal money.

      Altantuya may have been or feared to have been on the verge of exposing the secrets - explosive enough for military-grade plastic Explosives to be ordered for her termination.

      To this day, I firmly believe Altantuya's termination was "ordered", as in someone powerful's instruction to silence her forever, not somebody's silly idea of lust.

  2. Everyone knows arms trade is one of the most corrupt. It would not surprise anyone that the buyer (ie us) was negotiating with both French and Russian suppliers to extract the best “deal’, and the French side won.

    Just settle the case lah. The poor family has suffered enough and the murderers are Malaysian.

  3. Scorpene submarine is definitely French made and a great insult to RUSSIA if any Russian made submarine is alluded to be from FRANCE.

    President Valdimir Putin will be very displeased.

  4. I won't be surprised if "Special Negotiations" were conducted overseas. They usually were in the Old Regime, for obvious reasons.

    The family just wants proper justice for Altantuya, which has eluded them for years.

  5. I reserve my comments..������
    Kung Xi faa chai..♡♡♡

  6. Replies
    1. Gong Xi Fa Cai or in Penang Hokkien, Keong Hee Huat Chye

    2. Kong He Fatt Choy ... huat huat

  7. Lunar New Year is time for seeking forgiveness and reconciliation, as Ho Kay Tat and Xavier Justo are showing over the 1MDB-PetriSaudi case. Come on Malaysia, follow their example, settle the Altantuya case out of court, compensate the family. They have suffered enough.

    The Edge owner gives Justo RM8.2m for helping expose 1MDB scandal
    Malaysiakini | Published: 31 Jan 2019, 10:46 pm |

    The Edge Media Group chairperson Tong Kooi Ong has given 1MDB whistleblower Xavier Andre Justo RM8.2 million (US$2 million), for the Swiss national's role in exposing the financial scandal.

    According to the media group's online portal, Justo accompanied by his wife Laura and their four-year-old son Zander, visited the Edge Media Group's office in Petaling Jaya this evening, where they met Tong as well as group publisher and CEO Ho Kay Tat.

    “The gift to Justo is in appreciation of his contribution to Malaysia in helping to expose the kleptocracy of the past government.

    “Without him (Justo), the wrongdoings involving 1MDB, as exposed by The Edge, would not have come to light," Tong was quoted saying.

    Tong further thanked Justo and his family for enduring the suffering they went through, in pursuit of the truth.

    "His family was harassed and intimidated while he was languishing in jail. No one should have to go through what he had to endure for helping to reveal the truth.

    "I would also like to add that Justo has confirmed to me that the accusation that he stole the data is untrue. My lawyers had tried to reach PetroSaudi on their past claims and they had chosen repeatedly not to respond," the tycoon was quoted saying.

    Justo also thanked Tong (photo), saying the amount will go "a long way" in helping him and his family, rebuild their lives.

    “I take comfort (from the fact) that I have not suffered in vain. Malaysians got to learn the truth (about 1MDB) and I eventually got my freedom back.”

    Justo was arrested in June 2015 on blackmail charges, after he provided information on 1MDB deals with his then employer, PetroSaudi International, to The Edge, as well as Sarawak Report.

    He spent 18 months in a Thai prison.

    In 2016, Justo had sued Tong and two others, in the High Court in Singapore, for damages - claiming he never received the US$2 million he was promised by Tong, in return for two data storage drives he had handed over in the presence of the latter, the previous year.

    In the suit, Justo had demanded the items to be returned, and for any copies, to be destroyed.

    According to Tong's lawyer then, Tong had denied Justo's claim and said the latter was not entitled to the said items as he was "widely reported to have confessed to having stolen the data from PetroSaudi".

    In his defence that was filed, Tong had admitted to signing the letter at a meeting, which he said was done at Justo's request, but conceded that he had refused to pay Justo despite repeated demands from the latter via WhatsApp.

    Tong had also denied having induced Justo into handing over the data with the payout offered.

    It was learnt that the matter was eventually settled out of court.

  8. RM42.0 billion kleptocracy is fitnah. Najib an accomplice to the murder of Hussain Najadi, Kevin Morais and Altantuya is fitnah. The country is going bankrupt is also fitnah. Fitnah politics and race/religion politics are both bad. However, at present that is the real political situation in Malaysia now. Having to chose between the two, the Malays would be more inclined to race/religion politics. Against that political backdrop BN should be able to win back Semenyih.

  9. appears Altantuya was a blackmailed. Not a good person.

    That the person or persons she was blackmailing were possible wrongdoers does not make it better.

    Just like Justo was trying to blackmail 1MDB crooks ?

    1. F*ck lah, always the grandmother's story of playing victim!

      One of the ways to acquire power in social relations is to present yourself as a victim. If you are a victim you are beyond reproach. — Slavoj Zizek

      Does yr good book mentions any such thing?