Wednesday, July 27, 2016

Betrayal is never from enemies

Star Online - Pua vents frustration against political 'friends'

PETALING JAYA: Selangor DAP chairman Tony Pua has taken to social media to vent his political frustration against so-called “friends”.

“Sometimes, you wonder what type of friends you have. When they are in a crisis, you backed them to the hilt, come what may,” he said in a public post on his Facebook account on Wednesday afternoon.

“Then that at a time where we would appreciate their support, they leak everything to the media first leaving you completely naked.

“Or announce to the whole world openly before they bother talking to us,”
Pua added.

The thinly-veiled comment might be in relation to Pakatan Harapan partner PKR not supporting the snap polls in Penang, stating that it had yet to be convinced of the purpose.

PKR president Datuk Seri Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail said the party had come to the decision after a meeting that also took into account the opinions of civil society.

Amanah, the third Pakatan Harapan party, is supporting DAP’s proposal to hold snap polls in Penang.

On Wednesday, Lim stated that DAP that it was willing to give PKR a “reasonable time” to decide, but noted that the decision could not be dragged on.

Note the above highlighted paragraphs. Well, all I can say to TP is wakakakakakakaaaaaa.

For years I have observed and blogged on, that that would be PKR's modus operandi, announcing to the media disagreements with DAP without or before informing DAP it disagreed with its partner, presenting its side of the story as if it's the morally righteous party, or ...

... presenting the DAP with a fait accompli, this especially in regards to Pakatan seat sharing allocation as it demonstrated just prior to the last Sarawak state election when, despite a newly signed Pakatan so-called concordant, it unilaterally announced (meaning, without consultation nor agreement with its coalition partners) that it will contest 40 seats in Sarawak's coming state election with 15 seats including Batu Kitang being 'non-negotiable'.

Unilateral announcement; 'non-negotiable' - Wow, but those were striking examples of PKR's style of 'negotiations' and 'agreements', wakakaka.

And poor naive TP who thought he was a genius, was the silly Chicken Little promoting the rancid Kajang Satay for his PKR mateys even when that Kajang by-election, a sinister PKR unilateral move to remove Khalid Ibrahim from the Selangor MB position for its intra-party feuding and interests, was not made in consultation with DAP or PAS.

In fact both DAP and PAS were caught unaware by the announcement of Lee Chin Cheh's resignation as ADUN for Kajang. I suspect even Anwar Ibrahim were not informed because he seemed shocked, surprised and stunned when the media asked him to comment, wakakaka.

And that's what TP meant when he bemoaned:

“Sometimes, you wonder what type of friends you have. When they are in a crisis, you backed them to the hilt, come what may.”

“Then that at a time where we would appreciate their support, they leak everything to the media first leaving you completely naked.

“Or announce to the whole world openly before they bother talking to us.”

Padan muka TP - hope this is a lesson never ever to trust PKR.

Back in 2007, prior to the 2008 GE, when PKR and DAP were negotiating over seats sharing allocations for Penang, Perak and Sabah, our dear Guan Eng got a shock when PKR demonstrated its fave modus operandi in respect to 'negotiations' wakakaka.

Guan Eng was deeply annoyed with Azmin Ali, then PKR vice-president and election bureau head, for announcing on 27 May 2007 that PKR will be going for 60 parliamentary and 120 state seats in the 2008 general election. Wakakaka, and tough luck for the DAP as Azmin's pre-emptive grab of the majority of the seats were coincidentally those in Penang, Selangor and Sabah.

Lim had then told Malaysiakini about PKR making a request to seek a revision of the seat-distribution formula, but prior to DAP considering PKR's request, Azmin made the announcement, wakakaka. Lim said:

“There must be sincerity (in the talks), otherwise there won’t be an ideal outcome. I don’t want to engage in this media game, let us (both parties) meet in private. This is the game they (PKR) want to play but I am not interested.”

Lim was of course spot on about PKR having a notorious track record of pre-empting talks with the DAP by releasing their views to the press rather than discussing those views or desired positions with the DAP in confidence. PKR did the same underhanded and undermining tactics in 2004.

It's in PKR's genes to be like so, so I have to say that TP in his dealing with PKR had been a naive tenderfoot (greenhorn). And I must reprimand Guan Eng for not sharing with TP his most unpleasant experience in so-called negotiations with PKR, wakakaka.

To be continued ...


  1. It's good that friends and foes surface now rather than in GE14.

  2. naked attraction

    pkr to dap : don't strip first and complain naked lah...

    dap to pkr : but you don't wait too long lah...

    ha ha

  3. A group of friends go out for a night in the city.
    One of them suggests we go to a pub for a drink.
    I object , both for my own reasons and for the good of the group.
    Its not good for me - my doctor has advised me to lay off the alcohol , at least temporarily.
    It is also not in the group's interest - if we all drink large amounts , it will not be safe for any one of us to drive the car on the way home.

    Am I betraying the group ?

    No !

    1. poor analogy - asking the people of penang for a fresh mandate is not going to the pub for yamsenging

    2. What is the urgent need for a fresh mandate ?

      One man's legal problems is not sufficient reason to hold a Snap Election for the entire state.

      Part of PKR's objections is that it is not good for PKR.

      It is a legitimate doubt and objection.

      Until now , for all the impatience, DAP has not provided a coherent explanation why a fresh mandate is necessary.

      It is NOT betrayal.

    3. I'll be blogging on why an early election for Penang state is necessary, so I won't answer you here. But ask yourself this instead: Was the Kajang by-election necessary? Wasn't it done unilaterally without even some PKR people knowing, let alone Pakatan partners PAS and DAP? Wasn't the Kajang betrayal the beginning of the end of Pakatan Rakyat, which saw Azmin Ali and PAS going off in one direction while Anwar's camp with DAP went in the other? Yet that totally sinister and unnecessary PKR-internal selfish bullshit was nonetheless back fully by DAP in the spirit of coalition cooperation.

    4. ini masalahnya bila wakil rakyat jadi pemerintah. they think that the rakyat become their property. sepatutnya rakyat yg menentukan samada untuk memberi mandat baru. sekiranya pungutan suara (referendum) dibuat (only wishful thinking), boleh jadi ada snap election & boleh jadi tidak ada.

      walau bagaimana pun, hanya wakil rakyat yg berkuasa boleh menentukan perkara ini. soalannya, apa faedah utk rakyat?

    5. saya cuba jawab soalan sdr di pos berikut

  4. The Kajang by-election was bad and unnecessary.
    But essentially just involved 1 constituency.

    Some of the nasty things that happened after that were the work of the mentality of some of the individuals involved, including DAP, so don't just blame the By-Election.

    A full state election in Penang is 40 x that.

    Dogmatic people tend not to understand the concept of orders of magnitude.
    They will keep repeating - its the principle that matters.

    If I owe you RM 100 , and "forgot" that I need to repay it, its not good, but not earth shattering.

    If I owe you RM 4,000 , and don't bother to repay you, that is a different and far more serious matter, even though the "principle" is the same.

    1. The Kajang by-election might have been only 1 out of 56 seats but it smashed up Pakatan Rakyat kau kau - that was how drastic it was, that was how unthinking, selfish and greedy the PKR leadership had been and still are

  5. The story I hear from Amanah folks around Jelutong area is that Lim Guan Eng made the decision to support Penang Snap Polls for them.....

    In fact , their party leaders had yet to decide either way at that time, when Lim Guan Eng made the announcement for it on behalf of them....

    Some Amanah members were very unhappy....some just shrugged , knowing that , at this moment, Parti Amanah is
    completely 100% dependent on DAP.

    Its like a child-adult relationship.

    1. Wakakakaka...a real "Tokong"....

      Sounds exactly like what PKR did to DAP before the Kajang by-elections...announcing that DAP had agreed to the Kajang move...on their behalf...

      Wakakakaka.... 2 x 5 ...

    2. hearsay only so don't get too excited, wakakaka

    3. I propose DAP to form coalition with UMNO in Penang to make Najib happy. Najib happy, ktemoc will be extremly fuckingly happy

    4. DAP / Najib Coalition ?
      That will be heavenly for Ktemoc.


    Focus on 1MDB, Nurul Izzah says...

    And focus on clearing Lim Guan Eng's name...

    Electioneering in Penang for polls which are nothing more than optional is an unnecessary distraction.

    1. Wait for 2018? LGE will not be around to lead the charge to return penang to PH. The more time we give BN, the stronger they get... If PKR cannot win in Penang, they can bungkus and retire from politics. Not that Penang voters are in their bags, but eh demographics are more favourable than other states (even selangor). Coalitoin politics need give and take, compromise, so reading the article and Ketmoc's comments, I think the tokong is not LGE.