Friday, February 13, 2009

Anwar Ibrahim is dispensable!

Malaysiakini - Nizar vs Zambry legal battle begins!

Datuk Seri Nizar Jamaluddin, MB of Perak!

It’s amazing that this man has come to be respected, admired and adored by many Malaysians of all shades, hue, creed, religious affiliation and background.

Who would have thought an ADUN from the smallest of the winning Pakatan Rakyat coalition in Perak, picked by the Sultan (or his Regent at that time) to be the Perak MB could rise to such prominence in less than a year?

If the royal house of Perak is to be ever thanked at all, thank the Regent for his choice. Fate has a funny way of gifting many Malaysians with the leadership of Nizar Jamaluddin.

Malaysian Insider photo

OK, he is not perfect and I bet he would be the first to admit to that, and I know I can easily criticize him for a number of issues, but in general Nizar has shown his mettle, sincerity, fairness, humour, cool, and inner strength, and of course a kind style of leadership.

Would you believe he’s from PAS? wakakakakakakaka.

Pak Haji Hadi Awang should observe and learn how this man has won the hearts of most non-Muslims for his moderate Islamic conduct.

There is an unfortunate, incorrect and defeatist attitude among some Pakatan people, most of all PKR member, that Anwar Ibrahim is indispensable. Gasp, gawd, omigosh, I wonder how this pack of wonders will cope should Anwar accidentally fall under a truck?

No one is ever indispensable nor do we want to see occur in Malaysia the dynastic style of leadership so rife in the Indian sub-continent, where names like Gandhi, Bhutto, Bandaraike and Ziaur more or less guarantee political ascendancy.

While Anwar Ibrahim has been blessed with the gift of a silver tongue and quick wits, I among many others reckon that he lacks the sincerity, selfless dedication and (consistency of) standards to lead or fight for Malaysians.

Thus far, he has been mainly about grandstanding bull and divisive rabble rousing polemics.

But most of all, Anwar Ibrahim is always fighting (only) for Anwar Ibrahim.

He lacks the long term durability and credibility as a good sincere and effective leader, as seen through his own actions and failure to stick to even his own words ... not forgetting his heavy baggage as a former UMNO ketuanan Melayu proponent.

And don't forget he didn't leave UMNO on his accord but was forcefully chucked out screaming and scratching. How could I ever believe in such a person's overnight metamorphosis into a political reformer, and yes, it's more likely I am the Shahanshah of Persia - wakakaka, but on a serious note, I recall his 'Cina, balik Tiongsun' and 'Indian temple bells will stop ringing', etc.

A stark example of his hypocrisy, just immediately after the March 08 general elections and indeed till the recent Perak debacle, has been his shameless boastful espousal of political defectors in his bid to seize federal power, when (until then) his political platform had all along been about political reforms.


Reforms? What f* reforms? It's sheer unmitigated blasphemy!

In his euphoric arrogance he threw caution and discretion to the wind, doing the exact opposite of his pompous pseudo-pious political preaching.

As reported by Malaysiakini -
Karpal to Anwar: Step down as Pakatan head the Lion of Gelugor Karpal lamented "I am somewhat confounded how Anwar could have openly espoused and encouraged crossovers after the people gave a resounding mandate to the Pakatan on March 8 last year."

"In the public interest, and in particular in the interest of the Pakatan, Anwar has a lot to answer for creating the woes of the Pakatan now."

‘Nuff about Anwar, other than to say that as a leader, he is in fact not desirable, not ideal and thus not indispensible.

But realpolitics, particularly in this nation requires not just a Malaysian but a Malay and a Muslim to be its PM.

I propose that we think outside the box, laterally and innovatively.

What about Nizar Jamaluddin?

A PAS candidate adored, admired and respected by many Malaysians.

Nizar as the leader of the Pakatan Rakyat!

Nizar for Bukit Gantang!


Nizar for PM!

42 comments:

  1. I could not agree with you more. Khoo Kay Peng took the words right out of my mouth in his latest article.

    Karpal’s calling a spade a spade

    FEB 13 — There is one thing I like about DAP chairman Karpal Singh — his bluntness. Karpal is calling a spade a spade when he openly demanded that PKR de facto leader Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim quit as Pakatan Rakyat chief.

    He blamed Anwar for creating enough trouble and wanted him to repent.

    Karpal said both Pas and PKR had fallen sway to Anwar's rhetoric, who had supported defections of elected lawmakers as a way to wrest power from the BN.

    This is the same justification used by Umno leaders to justify the fall of the PR government in Perak. To jog back our memory, it wasn't Anwar who started the ball rolling on defections. It was Umno leaders, both Datuk Dr Khir Toyo (Selangor) and Datuk Seri Tajol Rosli (Perak), who started it first.

    Even Gerakan’s Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon is calling Anwar the "King of Frogs" and blamed him for starting the defection game. I was surprised that Koh, a Ph.D holder, was so childish to suggest that the defections were okay because Anwar started it first. Even if it was Anwar who started the game, it is still not okay to support defections. Just because someone you know starts to steal it does not mean that it is okay to steal.

    Some sense and sensibility should be applied to evaluate the extent of damage these defections have done to our democracy and politics. General elections are about the people and not the politicians. When a mandate has been given, the politicians should respect it.

    Yes, Anwar was calling a bluff for months and he broke all deadlines without much success. It was obvious that many analysts, like myself, have grown tired of Anwar's antics. I told him to strike a balance between governance and politics. Alas, he chose the later and did very little to help the former.

    It was obvious that a number of PKR lawmakers and executives did not perform up to expectations. Yet, I heard a number of their state leaders were asking for more positions. Some wanted to be consulted on state appointments. Anwar should have worked harder to ensure that his people perform and fulfil their election pledges.

    He should understand that it is not possible for the people to continue trusting non-performers. Some did not even set up their service centre until being criticised for failing to do so.

    Anwar should not hope to continue riding on people's negative sentiments towards BN to keep on winning.

    A number of PR leaders may not be comfortable with Karpal's outburst. No one will. Not even BN leaders when criticised. But Anwar wanted to show us a different kind of leadership. I was a victim too when I criticised Umno leaders. I was reprimanded by my ex-employers.

    PR leaders including Anwar should view Karpal's criticism constructively. Maybe it is a good idea for Anwar to adjust his leadership style. He should be thankful that it was BN which drew the first blood and it was ugly. The public is fuming mad about their democratic rights being stolen. Civil rights organisations are critical of the BN. I think it is a distasteful action by the BN.

    On hindsight, these criticisms could be aimed at Anwar and BN could play victims. They would have inflicted worse damage on PR.

    A less heroic and dominating Anwar would be good for his coalition. At present, nothing moves if Anwar does not. When Anwar sneezes, the whole coalition catches flu. He should consult more, communicate with his fellow comrades, get both DAP and Pas to iron out their differences and groom more leaders to take up important roles. It does not have to be a personality-centric PR.

    Anwar as a cohesive glue of the coalition has already played his role and it is time to move on to play a more important advisory role — to strengthen his fragile coalition.

    Karpal's criticism is important for PR and it is up to its leaders to take heed or curse it to the dustbin. Remember, PR leaders can be quite arrogant too.

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  2. Why is this idiot Nizar named only Zambry as the sole respondent? Has Anwar lost his 2 balls already?

    Is it the fault of Zambry becoming a MB?


    No wonder Karpal Singh refused to represent PR as the lawyer!!




    http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/2/13/nation/20090213121140&sec=nation

    Nizar sues Dr Zambry, wants injunction against him (Update 2)
    By SIM LEOI LEOI


    "....The suit only named Dr Zambry as the respondent despite earlier reports that it would include the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah, after he had refused to grant Nizar permission to dissolve the Perak state assembly...."

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  3. Lets not put the wagon before the horse in Nizar's case. As an MB with a DAP controlled executive is one thing. Being a leader of Pakatan with all the different interests is another. Khoo Kay Peng has always had an axe to grind with gerakan. As an ex employee of Sedar, the gerakan's think tank, he could have a personal agenda of running down Gerakan leaders. In any case, if Anwar said he was the queen of frogs, no one will admit to be the king.

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  4. HERE'S A DIFFERENT VIEW FROM THAT ANWARISTA ANTARES OF NON-MAGICKRIVER

    Anwar must listen to own advice — The Malaysian Insider

    FEB 13 — Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim has to start listening to his own advice if he wants to solve PKR's internal problems and constant speculation of defections.

    "The recent experience is a lesson and the party must ensure its struggle is not sacrificed for a narrow agenda," the opposition icon wrote in his weblog yesterday, referring to the scramble among allies for the Bukit Selambau state seat in Kedah.

    True. And not just for Bukit Selambau but for the entire party that looks up to him as the de facto leader.

    He has to realise that the "band-aid" approach will not work any longer, that you cannot just patch up the troubled parts and the party will creak on to victory.

    Eleven months after the historic and unprecedented opposition victory that denied Barisan Nasional its customary two-thirds parliamentary majority and control of four states, Anwar and his party is at a critical moment.

    His Pakatan Rakyat coalition has lost one state through defections and rumours of crossovers continue to make their rounds until state PKR chiefs have to hold meetings to confirm fealty and fidelity.

    Anwar has to drop the narrow agenda of forming the federal government, to use his own words, "by hook or crook" and defections, and focus on the nitty-gritty of consolidating his own party into a viable and sustainable force.

    At stake is his reputation as the unifier of the opposition, the glue that holds three disparate parties together and the architect of a two-party political system after 50 years of independence.

    No one else has been able to shake Barisan Nasional like Anwar but that could all go down the drain if he believes "the ends justifies the means" while seeing his party fray at the edges and turn believers into disbelievers.

    In the Perak crisis, two PKR lawmakers made the jump, with a double-hop by his varsity mate, Datuk Nasharudin Hashim from Umno, who began the circus of crossovers. One DAP state legislator followed, leaving Pas as the only party that has kept the faith and impervious to the business of defecting.

    In Kedah, one PKR lawmaker has quit both seat and post, mired in personal problems and accused of not performing public service.

    In Selangor, party leader Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim had to meet all the Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen and MPs to consolidate the party amid rumours of disputes and defections.

    These simmering problems have come to boil now for Anwar as political rivals in Umno sense he is at a vulnerable moment and are going all out to paint him as the villain of the piece in the Perak imbroglio.

    They also want to make him and DAP chairman Karpal Singh be seen as traitors and disloyal to the country's constitutional monarchy for disputing the Perak Sultan's decision to hand over the state government to Barisan Nasional instead of dissolving the state assembly.

    At a time when the Malays, who are the dominant and majority race in the country, are split about what happened in Perak, Umno is hoping to diminish Anwar's standing and recoup its losses from the last general election and by-elections.

    Anwar must know that and bringing in the first-aid box and a packet of band-aids is not the solution to his party's ailments.

    Like the country's economy, PKR needs structural and far-reaching changes, not just spit and plaster.

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  5. TO ALL PKR SUPPORTERS

    Don’t be rude, says Selangor Sultan

    KLANG, Feb 13 — The Sultan of Selangor, Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah Alhaj is deeply saddened and disappointed over the disputes relating to the recent appointment of the new Perak state government to the extent of displaying rudeness to the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah.

    “Political developments, instances of street demonstrations and disputes between various parties, relating to the recent appointment of the new Perak state government, to the extent of displaying rudeness to the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah, have saddened and disappointed me.”

    He said this in a special press statement entitled “Affirmation Regarding the Political Turmoil in Perak Darul Ridzuan”, which was released from Istana Alam Shah, here.

    In a three-page statement, the Sultan of Selangor advised the people who challenged the rights, role and position of the Rulers, which were enshrined in the Federal Constitution, to think carefully and evaluate deeply the consequences before taking any action.

    “I hereby wish to advise with the utmost sincerity by taking into consideration the future of the religion, Malaysian nation and our beloved country. Please do not be misled by actions and behaviours that will only disgrace our integrity, invite high risks to our process of progress, and eradicate the foundations of national sovereignty through the display of rudeness, treachery, arrogance, ignorance in knowledge and lust for power,” the Sultan said. — Bernama

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  6. We are spending too much time on politics. The world economy is in a tail spin and for the moment it is confined to the developed world. It is only a matter of time before it reaches us. Say in six mnonths.

    In the Us- all countries are following the lead set by the US- they have tried all fiscal policy measures and have reached a point where the Fed may have fired its last bullet.

    The Americans are fast approaching zero interest rates and at the presaent rate of interest rates cut your guess is as good as mine as to when we will be at Zero interes. You may recall that Japan went along the same path since 1990 and its ecnonmy has been 'stagnant' ever since. In the mean time it has accumulated a set of unwanted projects going to nowhere all in the name of stimulating the economy.

    All that is ok. But now the those people in the Fed are contemplating an even more dangerous experiment.'Quantitative Easing' That is somewhat similar to what Mugabe did to stimulate the economy and hope for the best.

    Given that all developed and developing nations are folowing the lead of the US to spend our way ot of the recession, as the Japanese did, I am of the view that Blogs should spend equal time on economic issues as they do on political issues. Raml;ax

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  7. See what I mean about PAS KT. Now you know why many Chinese voted for them. Who cares if they place restrictions on gambling. Restricting the sale of pork from motorcycle vendors will be a step towards better hygiene. Does the sight of someone drinking to excess and puking like an idiot disgust all who witness it? Most of all I hope they take out gambling in Malaysia.
    You come from a Chinese majority area in Malaysia. I am sure you must have seen firsthand the devastating effects of gambling on society. Let's get real. It will be a long time before Malaysia accepts a non-Malay as PM. Ask the BN clowns what's wrong with an honest PAS man as PM. Bye bye Anwar Ibrahim.

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  8. Who cares if they place restrictions on gambling. Restricting the sale of pork from motorcycle vendors will be a step towards better hygiene.

    I disagree...

    But anyway... Nizar for PM! He's PM material shall he go KL for 5 to 10 years!

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  9. Bentoh,

    Would like to hear your grounds for disagreeing

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  10. Nizar is PAS and PAS means total Islam, Syariah and Hudud Laws. Tok Guru and his followers in Kelantan and elsewhere are only biding their time while playing a game!

    PAS's loyalty is ultimately only to that other King in the Holy Book and therfore even the M'sian Royalty is expendable.

    So, I wouldn't go out and bet my life savings just yet on Nizar and PAS to unite all M'sians. Their real agenda is not for a multi-ethnic/cultural/religious society like M'sia.

    But for the moment, I will take anyone on board to cut UMNO/BN down to size and out of Govt. 2 can play at PAS's game!!
    http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com

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  11. Bro,
    I will never respect JKR engineer, arrogant stupid bastard, kuat makan rasuah

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  12. The problem with Nizar as leader of Pakatan will the cadres from DAP. Can the socialist secular leftist work together with a conservative religious right with a conduit?
    The principles clashing is mind boggling. It will not be about 4Ds, selling pork or beer either. What about queues in the supermarket, watching Terminator:Salvation with the lights on and Amber Chia wearing a tudung. That will be a start. Changing your lifestyle? It will be a cinch. It is the law.

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  13. Ktemoc,
    Are you going to tolerate this spammer called Chaptokam on your blog ?

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  14. http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/02/11/inside-source-reveals-fema-dhs-prepairing-for-mass-graves-and-martial-law-near-chicago/

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  15. I would really like to hear RPK's views on the royalty. It seems he only blames all Pakatan component parties equally now. However there are too many rumours going around that the Sultan of Perak is guilty of corruption and accepting bribes. Can't RPK use his sources to confirm whether this is true or not? or maybe he does not want to?

    PAS and DAP are not perfect. But at least many (not all) of their people are not hypocrites.

    PAS has two bandwagons. The Erdogan and the Ulamas. The Erdogan, that Nizar belongs to wants to take PAS more to the centre and make it more multicultural, inclusive and even secular to a degree - with an emphasis on a welfare state. A welfare state vision and that of what the centre-left DAP wants is very similiar.

    With Nizar, we further give power, credibility and confidence to the Erdogan bandwagon and also contribute to a stronger opposition. This is UMNO's worse nightmare: a more multicultural PAS that operates more from the centre. Mind you that operating form here, does not mean they have to leave behind some of their conservative values.

    I agree that gambling needs to go. Too much of that money ends up in UMNO's hands. We will be removing one of their cash streams.

    Drinking and eating pork are relatively small matters, compared to the economic downturn, death of democracy and bad governance. I'm banking on a more multicultural PAS becoming a reality, so I hope they will give that up for the bigger picture.

    The Erdogan bandwagon of PAS realises that only with the support of the Chinese and Indians, can they ever be a viable alternative. Even many Malays middle class Malays have this similiar view, especially in developed states like Selangor and Perak.

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  16. PAS deed is not so obvious yet, they are still in the process of gaining power as such need every Tom and Harry vote. It will be a difference story when they are establish that is commanding the majority of the malay/muslim votes. Trenggannu have taste PAS medicine before that why they were thrown out in the 2004 election and does not much impact during 2008 election. They know it and done some cosmetic change to lure the non-muslim but their goals remain the same. Their ideology is base on islam and they are a religious base political party. I do not trust these Malaysian Taliban, and will not take the risk that they will not implement the strictest Islamic Law when they come into power. Do we need to see that they prohibit other form of worship and demolish all the temples and church only then wake up. Remember some of them when to Afghanistan for training.

    UMNO must stay relevant for check and balance on PAS.

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  17. RPK has posted a Malay Mail article on his Corridors of Power. In that article, there is clear mention of 'RPK's support of Perak’s Sultan Azlan Shah'.

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18084/84/

    I do not think RPK would have put that up on MT, if he did not agree with it himself.

    So:

    1) The Sultan really is innocent and did not accept bribes and was forced into the decision?

    2) A decision he made with the best interest of the people of Perak in mind?

    Will RPK answer the 2 questions above specifically in time or avoid it forever? If he does not know, why post that article on MT?

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  18. RPK has posted a Malay Mail article on his Corridors of Power. In that article, there is clear mention of 'RPK's support of Perak’s Sultan Azlan Shah'.

    http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/18084/84/

    I do not think RPK would have put that up on MT, if he did not agree with it himself.

    So:

    1) The Sultan really is innocent and did not accept bribes and was "not" forced into the decision?

    2) A decision he made with the best interest of the people of Perak in mind?

    Will RPK answer the 2 questions above specifically in time or avoid it forever? If he does not know, why post that article on MT?

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  19. Nizar for PM? How about Nizar for Sultan?

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  20. Anonymous 1:02 AM

    would you also like to complain to ktemoc about The Dark Knight spamming ? Don't hide behind anonymous unless you are one without a face and without balls . Another idiot complaining which is none of his fcuking business .

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  21. Anonymous 12:35 PM

    Looks like I have stepped on his tail , which I believe he has one . Tks......................

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  22. Dark Knight is not spamming.
    He posted a URL link with some brief comments.

    Chaptokam is posting the entire text of copy-and-paste articles - and that qualifies as spamming.

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  23. Ktemoc, sorry for posting the same comment twice. But there are the only two comments I have posted here.

    I have a good idea who the real coward Anonymous 1:15pm is. This person even has a bit of mental problems. I will expose him, if he continues being the batu api and rable rouser in your comments section.

    Thanks :)

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  24. I meant Anonymous 12:35pm. He has a previous beef with me.

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  25. Lets not put our hopes on the Erdogans winning the battle of the islamic minds. The Islamic world is becoming more Taliban rather than the other way around. Our real hope is in the constitution that is secular and rational not religious and emotional. We need to protect the constitution that has space for everyone, even the godless.

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  26. There is a difference between the Dark Knight and Chaptokam (the Joker): one is dead serious and the other makes deadly but unfunny jokes. What makes Chaptokam even worse than the Joker is the fact that he is a member of the MCA, where quantity often passes off for quality. Unlike other MCA members who stuff as much money as they can into the pockets of Umnoputras and royalty in order to get away with anything they want, Chaptokam hasn't got money to spare. So what he does is to vomit as many words as he can into the Comments page of KTemoc's blog, thinking that he "wins" his shallow arguments by doing so. It doesn't matter if his inadequate intelligence does not allow him to argue at length. What he does is to copy whole articles and paste them into the Comments page, even if some of these articles do not support his arguments or contradict them outright. This joker has already made KTemoc's Comments page pretty ineffective, by dominating it with his shallow comments and semi-relevant lengthy quotations. KTemoc: You have to get rid of this joker before he gets rid of you.

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  27. I found this name cropping up in other blogs - "Fuckatan Riot".

    Anwar, can consider adopting this new name? wakakakakaka!

    Quite rhymming though:))

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  28. I am writing to refute the comments written by some jokers who cannot take even a comment.

    What a compliment for chaptokam :the other makes deadly but unfunny jokes , that makes him very dangerous and deadly .
    So looks like the PKR supporters are feeling the heat as quote :
    Unlike other MCA members who stuff as much money as they can into the pockets of Umnoputras and royalty in order to get away with anything they want, Chaptokam hasn't got money to spare.
    Well looks like chaptokam might not have the money to spare , at least he won't be buying PKR prostitutes for UMNO .

    It doesn't matter if his inadequate intelligence does not allow him to argue at length.
    I believe chaptokam realises its useless to argue with the Anwaristas , they will even argue with with RPK that he is wrong in supporting the royalties . They are always right these inadequate intelligence Anwaristas . Since chaptokam is the joker , let him be the joker , they will be many jokes around to keep everyone laughing .

    Get rid of KT ?You have to get rid of this joker before he gets rid of you.
    This must be the batu api and rable rouser in your comments section. Instigating first about cahptokam spamming , now accusing him of wanting to get rid of KT ?
    This is what in politics people say , putting a wedge between two friends . ..............

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  29. New name for Pakatan Rakyat

    Sounds great "Fuckatan Riot".

    Like to add another word Fuckatan Riot Yet ? sounds ok ?

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  30. I am not taking anyone's side when making this suggestion here.

    I am not sure how you do it Ktemoc, but there is a way to put a warning and disclaimer on the top of this blogger comments page.

    You can put a note there if you want, that commentors should not copy and paste whole articles. Just post the link and title. Commentors can maybe put in excerpts that they may want to further comment about, but not the whole article.

    I hope we can resume the conversation about the ideas, analysis, critical points and views of this article, instead of attacking each other and people personally.

    I do not think that is why people come to Ktemoc's blog anyway. Even other bloggers are jealous about the quality and diversity of views from the commentors on this blog. Let us not spoil that balance please.

    I dislike blogs where all the comments are one sided, fan worshipping and grovelling. You know their names. Most of the popular blogs are like that and you know who they are. These bloggers play to their fan clubs and are huge attention seekers.

    Ktemoc, I would like to hear your views about how the people can help PAS and the Erdogan bandwagon to throw out the Ulamas and fundamentalists. What can PAS leadership do as well? Thank you.

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  31. Old name for BN
    Barisan Najis

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  32. Raml;ax has a valid point. But he forgets one thing, BN and UMNO are not interested in what the rakyat thinks. They have always done thing their own way and stick to their comfort zones and regular advisors.

    Most of the top people in companies whom can really make a difference to the market and economy, are all their guys and pawns.

    Nepotism and cronyism.

    So politiking, sound management, leadership and development of Pakatan is one of the main ways we can improve the country.

    That was one of the reasons given by some in Pakatan, for their support whether directly or through the party, in support of party hopping.

    I am not defending party hopping. Just pointing out that fact.

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  33. Ktemoc,
    Like it or not, only Anwar has the political strategic mind to win the war. Nizar is good but he got to wait till the gorundwork is levelled. Nizar has his hands full in Perak. The battle has just begun.
    Just to share soemthing biblical. One need David to finish the conquest of Israel and Solomon, his son to build the temple of God. By the way, there are many prominent leaders. Zaid Ibrahim, Husam Musa and Lim Guan Eng to name a few

    Regards,
    looes74

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  34. Hi chaptokam,

    Congratulations! you have make it. Your philosophy move people.....

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  35. I disagree with the view that Anwar is an "undesirable".

    I'm not an Anwar supporter and I would consider myself neutral on the issue of his character.

    Of course, nobody is indispensable.
    I agree that Anwar has failed to spend the time and effort to build up PRs governance in the states which it ran the State Government, and I definitely do not support changing an elected government via katakcracy. He should just shut up about his "kataks".

    But I think to conclude that he is undesirable as a leader is based on a total focus on the negatives. You cannot judge a person solely, totally on his negative points. THAT is unfair and improper.

    Anwar Ibrahim is also the person who expounded "Anak Melayu, anak kita, anak Cina anak kita, anak India, pun anak kita. Mengapa harus kita bezakan?”.
    You may not trust him, but he DID say it. How many top line Malay BN leaders dare utter that ? - its political suicide in UMNO ("Ketuanan Melayu")

    I credit Anwar Ibrahim with 4 major breakthroughs, and they ARE almost unique and historic breakthroughs in the context of this country's 1/2 century of politics

    a) He's managed to break through the Chinese working class' traditional mistrust for any Malay politician. This situation has traditionally meant the Chinese would support MCA, hence BN in any election contest in a Malay-majority seat.

    b) He's managed to pull in the support of the Chinese middle-class, many of whom used to be solid BN supporters who simply considered the Opposition lacked credibility as an alternative government.
    Personally, I'm pretty much part of this social grouping.

    c) He's helped to break BN's stranglehold on the Indian vote. Of course, Hindraf was the key catalyst, but you can't deny Anwar's role in channeling this into election votes.

    d) Last, but very importantly, he's helped convince many Malays, especially those who live in Chinese majority electorates that it is OK to vote for the DAP.

    He didn't all this himself, of course. But I've watched how things have developed, and Anwar Ibrahim IS a key enabler.

    Ah, let me just add, I haven't seen anything which would convince me that Liwat-gate is anything other than a Bl**dy farce.

    Before some of you accuse me of being an Anwarista , let me repeat that I'm very well aware of Anwar Ibrahim's shortcomings. But to conclude that he is an undesirable leader would amount to focusing only on the negatives - which is not the normal standard to judge any person.

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  36. Ktemoc,

    You don't like Anwar and neither do I but you seems to be obsessed with him to the extremes.

    I guess you will bring this grudge to your grave. Sad.

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  37. One question to Observer. Will those PR people and leaders judge BN leaders as what you have mentioned, I think not, they will turn BN positive to negative.

    Some of them will come out and say BN have no positive and what ever they have done is wrong.

    This is politic lah.......

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  38. The reason Anwar is able to be a conduit between the leftist DAP and the religious PAS is because he do not really have any moral stand. Hudud? Boleh!! Secular? Also boleh!! On one hand he is the person who wrote down We are one big family, in chinese no less and on the other, he is the one that wants to replace the headmasters in chinese schools with non chinese educated ones. Before he was no 2 in UMNO, the most chauvinistic or parties and now he say all are his children. Is he for real? Or is it just the new and improved packaging? Underneath is still the plain old FAB berbuku, a pragmatic opportunistic politician.

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  39. Yeah Move IT, Gerakan operative.
    How come you happily go to bed with UMNO every night ? No principle, no backbone, no balls party.

    XieAn, MCA operative.

    "BN have no positive and what ever they have done is wrong"

    BN - corrupt, racist, thieving, arrogant, every negative in the dictionary, and more.

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  40. Hi Observer,

    You give credit to Anwar for four major breakthroughs, I want to dispute a,b and c which I think that was not Anwar's accomplishment or rather the non-malay shift because of UMNO many blunders which made them angry. PR should thank UMNO for that. Its ironic that people have to turn to Anwar to fight the UNMO's injustices, who then played a major part in formulating many of those injustices.

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  41. Hi Observer,

    You give credit to Anwar for four major breakthroughs, I want to dispute all . Sorry to differ .

    a)He's managed to break through the Chinese working class' traditional mistrust for any Malay politician.

    Courtesy of Hishamuddin -the Keris man and Khairy -the son in law NOT Anwar

    b)He's managed to pull in the support of the Chinese middle-class, many of whom used to be solid BN supporters

    Courtesy of UMNO's arrogance

    c)He's helped to break BN's stranglehold on the Indian vote

    Courtesy of Samy Vellu - the man who would not go down or quit also known as the Sultan of Tamil Naidu

    d)Last, but very importantly, he's helped convince many Malays,

    Courtesy to the UMNOPUTRAS , the 3000 or so who benefited and not the Malays from the rural areas and other areas .

    And finally,
    Anwar Ibrahim is also the person who expounded "Anak Melayu, anak kita, anak Cina anak kita, anak India, pun anak kita. Mengapa harus kita bezakan?”.
    You may not trust him, but he DID say it.

    he also DID say this , in 1998 when he was DPM , he asked all Cina balek Tiong San , that he DID say it . So now all the crab about anak Cina anak kita another hootwink ......

    Anwar ? I 'll think twice ....

    Wonder what happen to the issue on Zulkifi Noordin the Cina Balek Cina MP ??

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  42. Damn BN Damn MCA Damn Gerakan

    No point damning everyone , after all we are here to give our point of view , in politics everbody have differing views .

    Also no point calling Chaptokam MCA operative , XieAn, MCA operative. Move IT, Gerakan operative. What else ? Ktemoc DAP operative ? Wakaka

    You don't make friends like this damning everyone ..........

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