Harussani Zakaria, the Mufti of Perak, is known as an intolerant cleric and non compassionate cleric, for a man purportedly of God.
Early this year, in February he placed on his department website a poll asking visitors what to do with those who published the blasphemous caricatures of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). The online poll offered 6 answers, where one was "Hunt and kill them or launch war against them”.
OK, that was just a poll, which would have questions ranging through the entire spectrum of opinions, but we need to note the Perak Mufti has a notorious consistency in his intolerance. For example, he had advocated exiling people affected by HIV-AIDS to an island to live in isolation from society, even when we now have the medical knowledge to know that the terrible disease is not spread by air, water or normal contact.
Additionally, innocent people like medical professions or the police could be infected during the course of their duties. Society has the facilities and knowhow to attend to and mitigate the sufferers' ailments, instead of exiling the victims to an island.
A Malaysiakini writer wrote of the Mufti that "he has failed to display ‘ihsan’ or compassion, empathy and sensitvity ..."
The writer lamented that the Perak Mufti with his ignorant understanding of HIV/AIDS showed how shallow and inconsiderate he has been.
My sweetheart, Marina Mahathir, former president of Malaysian Aids Council, criticised the Malaysian government [indirectly her own father who was PM then] for failing to train the senior people in the religious establishment, like the Perak Mufti, on the issue of HIV/Aids.
But KTemoc Konsiders’ reader Rafeedah Bigburns went straight for the jugular, stating clerics like Harussani Zakaria couldn’t help but do what they do, probably because of their low IQ. They became clerics to escape a life of low level menial jobs, and “… lo and behold, once in the fold and attired in religious garb they instantly command the respect and reverence of the general public.”
Well, the controversial cleric is at it again, coming out to declare he is against the Kongsi Raya because such celebrations may threaten the faith of Muslims. He wants the government to review such gatherings.
The PM dismissed his call, saying Kongsi Raya’s are not religious celebrations so there shouldn’t be any question about the Islamic faith being threatened. He said:
"All these events are social in nature. At most, they will have dances and other cultural programmes. Never did we have programmes which can be considered as religious during such gatherings. These are not programmes which can weaken our faith and our belief."
What about PAS then?
It seems the Islamic party has come out with conflicting views. Deputy president Nasharuddin Mat Isa has stated that PAS is not in favour of Kongsi Raya. He felt that it could be considered syirik (blasphemous) from an Islamic point of view to pair a Muslim celebration with a non-Muslim one, and was concerned that such paired celebrations could affect a Muslim’s aqidah (faith)”.
He said: “Islam allows us to be friends with non-Muslims and respect people of other faiths. But we cannot compromise But we cannot compromise on our own faith.”
“But this does not mean that Muslims should not visit their non-Muslim friends during the festival or vice-versa. This is part of our culture and I see no problem. But let us do it separately from our own.”
However PAS national unity committee chief Mujahid Yusof Rawa said the mufti (of Perak) needs to address the demands and interests of the country’s pluralistic society.
He opined: “There needs to be some explanation based on the other bigger interests of unity, especially in Malaysia where we are multiracial and have different ethnic groups and faiths. That needs to be considered so as not to jeopardise the true meaning of Islam, which calls for racial unity and respect for one another.”
“I, for example, am a national unity committee leader. I can’t be expected to have non-Muslims come over only to my open house during Hari Raya. I also have to go to their open houses.”
“If a fatwa (religious edict) to that effect is put in place, will I be arrested (for visiting open houses)?”
Ros Ismail, a reporter for the Star Online asked: “Why should attending a Kongsi Raya celebration make me a murtad (apostate)?”
“A joint Chinese New Year-Hari Raya gathering, where I would probably eat an orange, a handful of peanuts and a biscuit or two, should not turn me into a traitor of the religion. But as it turns out, the ulamas are wringing their hands in worry that Muslims attending such events may go astray.”
“It seems to suggest that our faith in God is so fundamentally fragile that, on the slightest pretext, we can be persuaded to jump ship.”
“This is hurtful for those of us who remain solidly Muslim even as we listen to Christmas carols or indulge in mutton curry over Deepavali with friends of other faiths.”
I won’t quote the opinions of the non-Muslims on the Kongsi Raya yet, but what do you think?
I disagree with your analysis. Quoting from the liberals does not support your case.ReplyDelete
The issue here is not whether Muslims will "jump ship at the first opportunity" (apostasy), but the act itself which is very close of associating others to God, or what is known in Islamic terms as syirik. Why the Ulama have shown concern here is because of the implications that mixing a holy festival in Islam can and will be mixed with the profane if this is left unchecked. Terms like "Kongsi Raya" are misleading and dangerous.
If you sincerely wish to promote religious harmony and understanding between different cultures, there is no need for the use of such terms to denote "harmony". True harmony can only exist by the understanding of our differences, not by assimilation!
We're lucky this time we didn't hear these from The Medicine Man:ReplyDelete
1. "We'll consider all views. He needs to be respected."
2. "He can talk what he wants."
3. "They are just following procedures. We want uniformity."
4. "I don't know. No comments." (or elegantly silent).
What percentage do you reckon he will get if there's an approval rate poll?
Oh, just a polite warning, the syiok sendiri bigot blogger will visit you anytime soon. He is sooo desperate for attention that he has declared wars against other bloggers now. ;-)
Oh, he just did before me. That was quick! Gosh, I could read minds!ReplyDelete
Actually ULTRAdoucheJ do have a point, it's like Christmas being associated too much with Santa Claus thus young children tends to believe in Santa, gifts, Rudolph, etc more than the true meaning of Christmas.ReplyDelete
But again for the Mufti of Perak who's so intolerant of others(we, the infidels) he's being short doing a Fatwa on calling Malaysian Muslims to 'cut our throats & take our heads'. Wonder how much our heads are worth these days.
And no, I'm have no love for ULTRAdoucheJ eventhough Walski's Tyranny pic on him was super-hilarious!
SensoSTUPIDtrovert:"the syiok sendiri bigot blogger will visit you anytime soon. He is sooo desperate for attention that he has declared wars against other bloggers now."ReplyDelete
That is an example of a wanker who would ejaculate at anything The Expired Medicine @ Ketua Pembangkang @ MP Ipoh Timur has to say. You see, these people should really get a life by strapping themselves to a rocket and ejaculate themselves to the moon. Just because they won 10 seats in Parliament doesn't mean that they suddenly have the authority to talk about Islam, know what I mean?
Of course, I am going off tangent here...but dear Ktemoc, with regard to State Perak Mufti Harussani Zakaria, I happen to know his personality quite well and I am in touch with people who can contact him directly. I think this attack on his character just because he made a comment in his capacity as an Ulama is quite unbecoming, do you not agree? And it is funny that those wankers who are affliated with a political party which has the word "Democratic" in it are the least democratically-inclined people and the most less-accomodating of views that oppose their own! Such a wonder isn't it....Depa Anak Penyangak is an apt description, I think!
Best regards to you.
I thought I had the misspel 'Tyranny' for 'Tranny', guess I was right.ReplyDelete
Espressing an opinion is a practise in Democracy, blackmailing people with '... I am in touch with people who can contact him directly' is not'.
Look at yourself in the mirror, UltraDoucheJ, you're just as 'Low' as us.
'True harmony can only exist by the understanding of our differences, not by assimilation!'ReplyDelete
Who in Malaysia is or are trying to assimiliate the Muslims? Why are you so paranoid? Is bigotry or stupidity or both the cause of your paranoia?
"Who in Malaysia is or are trying to assimiliate the Muslims?"ReplyDelete
It may not be obvious to you but I see this as an encroachment on our faith. Wankers from Devils After Power can whine all they want, but it is a religious duty to defend my religion. And I will defend it to the teeth.
For all this talk about harmony and good relations between religions, you sure don't seem to care what the MUSLIMS think about it, do you? And I am not talking about the liberals. If you want harmony, then accomodate, not assimilate!
I disagree with your analysis
What analysis did I make on the Kongsi Raya? I have quoted 4 blokes, namely the PM, 2 PAS leaders and Ros Ismail from the Star, all Muslims. I haven't quoted non-Muslims' opnions for obvious reasons. I want to see what Muslims think?
This posting represents the 1st part; today or tomorrow I'll put another part. Maybe then I'll include my analysis, and you're welcome to comment ;-)
Quoting from the liberals does not support your case
see above, but just for debating sake, why not? Being liberal doesn't make one wrong, nor being conservative automatically makes one right. It's the expressed values of an individual, no different than those of the Perak Mufti.
Most probably this mullah bugger had a pain in the arse; just like another mad mullah from Egypt whoReplyDelete
decreed that Muslim couples who have sex naked will make their marriage void !!!!!!!!
What a joke man!
'It may not be obvious to you but I see this as an encroachment on our faith.'ReplyDelete
You mean to tell me when the PM holds a Kongsi Raya open house he is somehow trying to turn Muslims into non-Muslims. Boy, you are more stupid and bigoted than I thought.
Ktemoc: "but just for debating sake, why not? Being liberal doesn't make one wrong, nor being conservative automatically makes one right."ReplyDelete
Liberal Islam is a fringe of the mainstream Muslim opinion and they should not be considered as a valid representative of mainstream Islamic thought.
"Most probably this mullah bugger had a pain in the arse"ReplyDelete
Actually annonymous cowards like you are the pain in the arse and have no civility in discourse. Perhaps you should just wank away to yourself.
And FYI, I am not a "mullah" nor do I share the opinion of the sheikh from Egypt who said that having sex naked nullifies marriage. But even if I held that opinion, so what? It is certainly not your place to talk about it, or make comments about it. You are considered as an Infidel and that is a fact. Why don't you let us Muslims handle our own problems in our religion instead of butting your nose into it, huh?
"You mean to tell me when the PM holds a Kongsi Raya open house"
Did I say anything about an "open house"?? I said the term Kongsi Raya is offensive! Why don't you actually read what I said instead of shooting your mouth without loading your gun, you bigoted Islamophobe?
This menj is getting real mad you know, he even declared war to another blogger.
So be intimidated or else he just might strap dynamite to himself and detonate it while surfing your website .
Menj, an open house is part of the Konsi Raya concept. Please do not be so bigoted and stupid. It is exasperating having to deal with people like you.ReplyDelete
The Creator of Islam Hadhari is now telling Malaysians that Hari Raya is not religious celebration but a social celebration?ReplyDelete
As far as I remember, Hari Raya is a religious celebration.
If your quote is true then I am suprised how low can this Creator of Islam Hadhari can stoop to.
By the way, I am a secular Islam but I still believe Hari raya celebration should not be kongsi with other celebrations from other religions.ReplyDelete
Non-Muslims to visit muslims during Hari raya? It is okay and encourage
Muslim to visit Non-Muslims during their celebrations? It is okay no issue there.
But to share the celebration? No. I do not agree.
'The Creator of Islam Hadhari is now telling Malaysians that Hari Raya is not religious celebration but a social celebration?'ReplyDelete
Since when has the government or the PM ever said that?
'But to share the celebration? No. I do not agree'. It is this kind of Muslim minset which creates the impression that Islam is nothing but a perverse religion professed
by bigoted people.
Wait till the oil runs low in Muslim oil exporting nations. At that point in time not only will Muslims be ignored by the world but they will also be trampled upon like dirt. Wake up, your best friends in the non-Muslim world are the liberals who defend your right to be who you are.
i always thought that the fasting during Ramadhan, the sermons in the mosque and the prayers on the morning of Hari Raya were the religious parts of Hari Raya and the "Open House" concept was a uniquely Malaysian one, with a social point to it. Kongsi Raya is a Malaysian permutation and is a social event. Kongsi raya does not involve any sort of watering down of the Islamic faith. it's a celebration of how Malaysians can live together, reallly, LIVE together...we celebrate the fact that people with different backgrounds actually make a country work. This debate on whether Kongsi Raya is encroaching on the Islamic-ness of Hari Raya is moot.ReplyDelete
"Menj, an open house is part of the Konsi Raya concept. Please do not be so bigoted and stupid. It is exasperating having to deal with people like you."ReplyDelete
Who is being "bigoted" or "stupid" here? Have I ever said anything against the practice of Open Houses? I have visited friends and families on CNY, Deepavali and Christmas before. So what is your point?
There is no problem with open houses concept, but there can NEVER be an amalgamation of two different religious festivals together under one so-called "Kongsi Raya" ridiculousness.
Give me one instance when our leaders amalgamated or intended toReplyDelete
amalgamate ( hope you undersatnd the word ) two religious festivals together. Please support your assertions with facts if not you will always remain 'bigoted' and 'stupid'
Assalamualaikum Menj. I am Muslim and I am Chinese. So when Eid and CNY come around the same time, I celebrate both in a Kongsi Raya. I don't see any problem with celebrating CNY together with Eid because CNY is a cultural celebration. The Iranians celebrate the Persian New Year and if Eid happens to occur together with the Persian NY, my Iranian relatives and friends celebrate their own Kongsi Raya too. Just because the Malays haven't got their own cultural New Year (I'm not talking about the 1st of Muharram here), doesn't mean other Muslims must abandon theirs. Before anyone calls me an ignorant convert (as most Malaysians I've met tend to think that if one is Chinese and Muslim, one must have recently converted to the religion), I'm born Muslim and so have my ancestors. My father, his father, his father's father and so on have either been born in Makkah ul-Mukaramah or lived there as religious scholars. Wassalam.ReplyDelete
Hello Farihan Ailin,ReplyDelete
I know of the Ma family if your grandfather or greatfather was Ibrahim Ma, because I have read his book. If you are, then let me express a belated condolence to the Ma family, particularly Rose, for the loss of Allahyarham Nasir, a great Malaysian and a patriot.
Hi KTemoc. I'm not related to the late Haji Ibrahim Ma Tien Ying's family. But I felt sad when I heard of the untimely demise of Capt Nasir Ma Lee. I feel that Malaysia has lost a patriotic son and I see it as a personal loss since our community is a very small one. Anyway, I wish Rosey, Shukreen and Raihan all the best.ReplyDelete
Are Rosey, Shukreen and Raihan the children of the late Haji Ibrahim Ma Tien Ying? My belated condolence to the family and friends.
I was surfing for Muslim in China and ended up here. I know there's a community of Chinese Muslim in the country but I haven't met any personally.
Why I want to meet one? You know, when I was small, my father's Chinese friends used to send us the mooncake but of course we had to give the cakes to the chickens! I really wanted to taste it :-). So that's why I'm looking for where to have halal Chinese food. So far haven't found any in Penang where I live. Hopefully I don't have to go all the way to China to taste halal Chinese food, although visiting China is a good idea and is part of a future plan...
shamcos, Rose is Ibrahim Ma's daughter-in-law. Have a look in the Kuala Lumpur directory for the MA family. That's the best I can do for you, sorry! Good luck!ReplyDelete