Some years ago I was with a group tour in France. There was a Pakistani man in our group of mainly Malaysians, Sings, Japanese, British and Aussies and Americans.
For convenience of reference, I’m going to give him a name in this post – let’s call him Hassan.
Whenever we stopped for breakfast, lunch, tea or dinner, Hassan would whinge and whine about him being a Muslim being forced to eat non-halal food, even when the dish was just a poulet roti (roast chook) with salad.
Many Malaysians including the non Muslims defended him, explaining to the ang-mor that halal or kosher food wasn’t just about no-pork, but involved the Muslim ritual slaughter and preparation, etc.
Midway through the tour, his non-stop complaints about violations against his religious diet had already assumed legendary dimension, though we noted his appetite didn't suffer.
Many acknowledged and respected his rights to do so (complained about the food). One way or other, we all kowtow-ed to his religious piety …..
… until we came to the Moulin Rouge.
Good olde Hassan showed his appreciation of the can-can sweeties as much as kaytee did; in fact, he was far more vociferous in his admiration of those delectable’s than shy me.
But what was far more interesting (or revealing about Hassan) was his Thor-ish quaffing of champagne.
Needless to say, the Malaysians pointed out his Islamic inconsistency to him. Hassan just ignored us and continued being Thor as challenged by King Utgardaloki.
The point of this recall is not just about Hassan's hypocrisy but that one can’t force people to do this or that. The best restraint or discipline would be one that comes from within oneself …..
… which brings us to Selangor PAS commissioner Hassan Ali who wants
Ban alcohol in Muslim areas in Selangor.
While many non-Muslims would argue about his insensitive infringements on the rights of non-Muslim, what galls me has been his utter bullsh*t that: “It has been decided at the MBSA full board meeting that the selling of alcohol in Muslim areas should not be happening, and the decision is unanimous”.
“It means, it can act on whatever it has decided. The guidelines have been passed and unless the state government steps in and amends it it should be adhered to.”
However, Ronnie Liu backed by Shah Alam Mayor Mazalan Mohd Noor told him to porrah.
Liu confirmed that there was no full board meeting ever held to approve the ban on alcohol by local authorities.
According to Shah Alam Mayor Mazalan Mohd Noor who was with Liu, the full board meeting referred to by Hasan were ‘merely discussions’.
Mazalan stressed that Liu had acted within his powers when he asked the enforcement officers regarding the seizure of alco
Mazalan also said the local authority did not have the jurisdiction to seize alcohol from convenience stores unless they are found selling it to Muslims and minors.
Incidentally, Selangor PAS commissioner Hassan Ali has been the man who held ‘unity talks’ with the Raja of the RM24 million Bali Hai. Now, that's hypocrisy!
just ban lah.... no alkohol, less drunkard, less wife beater....ReplyDelete
it's these hypocrites that make me need to drink! so we hv a chicken and egg situation...ReplyDelete
btw, it seems this whole mess is the fault of some retarded DAP councillors who told their PAS counterparts that they would support such a ban, which presumably may have led to PAS leaders making such a commitment to their grassroots and now can't really back out without losing face.
I have a dream, that in the next election, both Pakatan and Barisan will be wiped out by everyone casting spoiled votes then by some obscure section of the constitution we default to letting Indonesia take over. I hear Jakarta is a great place to live, work, and do business these days.
do you know that alcoholic drink are made from 'halal' stuff eg malt, rice, wheat etc?ReplyDelete
Aiya , a little bit of alcohol is good for health, treat it as a tonic lor..ReplyDelete
i still don't understand, why banning beer could offend some ppl here. do you know drinking beer can lead to road accident, wife beating and knife stabbing incident.ReplyDelete
kudos for gov to ban it! stop being hypocrite and get back to reality.
Live and let live lah... those who want to drink alcohol, go ahead and drink... those who don't want to drink, don't drink. Why must we all impose on each other? Are you holier than me, or vice versa? Its our personal relationship with God and it is He who knows everything.ReplyDelete
".. those who don't want to drink, don't drink. Why must we all impose on each other? Are you holier than me"ReplyDelete
are you saying malaysia should legalize marijuana, heroin, and prostitute as well according to your reasoning ...
Do you know that driving leads to car accident?ReplyDelete
Do you know that smoking leads to lung cancer, mouth cavity cancer?
Or maybe we go a bit further, do you know that asking someone to go to church or mosque will increase the chance of road kill?
It's about civil liberty, and the rule of law.
There's no law stating that one can not sell beers (unless it's duty unpaid beers).
It is also fundamental right for a human to do something, as long as that something is within the boundary of law...
I'm very interested in the research that clearly showed the correlation between drinking and road kill, wife beating and etc.
I'm as a drinker never thought of beating anyone, or drive my car around killing people, Why and who are you to think that I'll drink and become a killer next minute?
And why and who are you to think that I can't control myself from drinking?
We have laws to send those who can't control themselves after drinking and committed crime thereafter into the jail, so why do you need to ban me from drinking? And does it help to ban selling alcohol in certain places, if I'm already can't control myself from drinking?
Banning alcohol is a totally "religious" idea that try to impose certain moral values onto everyone. Banning alcohol is to assume that every citizen is stupid and not-Allah-fearing that they can't control themselves. The truth is those who can't control themselves will do their best in trying to get their hands on alcohols, while those "modest" drinkers will lose their liberty in drinking.
Just one more thing, does banning drug work? It seems like the drug abuse cases are increasing over the years in Malaysia.
" do you know that alcoholic drink are made from 'halal' stuff eg malt, rice, wheat etc?..."ReplyDelete
Look at this statement. I wonder why PAS still want to associate with these kind of people which obviously do not care to respect Islam!
To all the non Muslim voter of Permatang Pasir by election voter, make sure you have a can of beer in your hand or on your table when BN/PR candidate visit you for vote.ReplyDelete
how Pas allow 7-eleven which own by Malay to sell beers at non muslim area.ReplyDelete
Anon 8.53 a.m.ReplyDelete
7-11 is owned by Berjaya Group, not by any 'Malay' group.
"Banning alcohol is to assume that every citizen is stupid and not-Allah-fearing that they can't control themselves. The truth is those who can't control themselves will do their best in trying to get their hands on alcohols, while those "modest" drinkers will lose their liberty in drinking."ReplyDelete
the truth is majority really are stupid and needed to be controlled. you might have "control" after drinking, but the same does not apply to others. kudos for the gov to ban it, nevermind what the "modest" drinkers say. ban it for the sake of socially and politically.
drinking indeed is fundamental right, same as smoking marijuana and injecting heroin. since banning alcohol's becoming new LAW, i guess we should RESPECT and OBEY it as you pointed out.
Alcohol is banned in Saudi Arabia but wife beating continues, road accidents occur, knife stabbing incidents happen. Add to this list violence, rape and murder of foreign domestic maids and nurses. What is the cause of all these ?ReplyDelete
This dr.mad hassan fanatic has a hidden agenda and if this guys can sleep with the devil can we trust this low life skunk?
Wanna bet that Selangor can turn out something like Perak.Better to rid this cancerous leech or suffer the faith like Perak.Najib ai'nt a fool and he is behind this charade with that Toyal mother@#$@ prodding behind.It's time Pakatan go on a CAMPAIGN TO RID THIS FANATICS SOONEST!
to repeat some commenter's quote - "It is also fundamental right for a human to do something, as long as that something is within the boundary of law..."ReplyDelete
since the "official religion" forbids alcohol, and "majority" are forbidden to drink it, i don't see why it cannot make into law to respect the majority in this democratic society, just like ht majority forbids marijuana and prostitutes (holland does not ban marijuana, south korea does not with prostitute, why these hypocrites won't argue to emulate them - because we are Malaysians).
religion leads to suicide bombing, so let's ban religion too.ReplyDelete
Please keep the discussions at the desired level of reason and respect. ThanksReplyDelete
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I think it's unreasonable and disrespectful that so soon after Teoh Beng Hock's murder and immediately after the ISA rally we are back to discussing an alcohol ban. If this is the best we can do then Malaysia's future is bleak indeed.ReplyDelete
We've been over this before, and there is nothing new being discussed here. By now you would have expected the discussion to have evolved towards a better understanding of what the problems are and the exploration of other solutions... but then I don't know what solutions we can propose if we don't even know what the actual problem is.
If this is about Muslims drinking beer, there are better ways to curtail that than shutting down a few shops and forcing these errant Muslims to take a 20 minute drive to a neighboring area to stock up (we are, afterall, talking about Selangor here).
So what's up? What is the rationale for this "ban in Muslim areas" agenda? Unless someone can clarify this for me, I have to go with my gut feeling that this is just about a few Muslim leaders wanting to "tunjuk belang".
And don't get me started on the whole "muslim area" vs "non muslim area" debate. That's no way to build national unity.
Aiya, so the ??? is "to ban or not to ban" I am begining to sound like a famous playwrite "downunder"ReplyDelete
Those guys who insist that there must be a formal decree on this probably may not have heard of this "supply and demand" thingy.
Anyway, just briefly for the benefit of those who knows nothing about this thingy.
It's very simple, if you are selling something (supply) that nobody wants (demand) than according this thingy, you will go bankrupt or "bungkus" or "habis" or "boh liah" in hokkien ....
So, coming back to "to ban or not to ban", do you think I will make money setting up shop to sell combs to monks?
fellow friend..don't think too much ..the ban is on the muslim ares..so if you want to drink..find it at non muslim area..habis cerita.ReplyDelete