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KUALA LUMPUR: An Umno MP today claimed that the severe storm which hit Penang over the weekend causing floods and landslides may have been a form of karmic retribution due to bad things committed by certain people.
Zahidi Zainul Abidin (BN-Padang Besar) said in his Dewan Rakyat speech, to debate the Supply Bill, that the public would end up suffering because of the misdeeds of such people.
“In this debate, I would also like to express my grief for those living up north as they had to bear with the flooding for two to three days,” he said.
“We must remember that the floods happened due to hill-cutting and poor development management in Penang. Do not forget.
“Sometimes, when we do bad things, like insulting religions, causing a clash between religions and organising festivals that are not in accordance with other people’s religion and inciting anger, there would of course be karmic retribution and the people will suffer,” he said.
Although he did not name the “festival”, Zahidi may have alluded to the Penang government’s decision to allow the annual Oktoberfest, the German festival which features different types of beer, to go on in the state last month.
Zahidi Zainul Abidin (BN-Padang Besar) said in his Dewan Rakyat speech, to debate the Supply Bill, that the public would end up suffering because of the misdeeds of such people.
“In this debate, I would also like to express my grief for those living up north as they had to bear with the flooding for two to three days,” he said.
“We must remember that the floods happened due to hill-cutting and poor development management in Penang. Do not forget.
“Sometimes, when we do bad things, like insulting religions, causing a clash between religions and organising festivals that are not in accordance with other people’s religion and inciting anger, there would of course be karmic retribution and the people will suffer,” he said.
Although he did not name the “festival”, Zahidi may have alluded to the Penang government’s decision to allow the annual Oktoberfest, the German festival which features different types of beer, to go on in the state last month.
I suspect bloke might be related (perhaps distantly) to Nik Abduh. But do not scoff at his remarks as there may be gems of truth in them though I can easily pick up one bullshit.
Possible Truth - for example, organising festivals that are not in accordance with other people’s religion and inciting anger, there would of course be karmic retribution and the people will suffer” could of course refer to, especially from a non-Muslim Hindu point of view, the Korban rituals.
Based on the (il)logic of His Padang Besar Immaculate Wisdom, the previous floods in Kelantan, Terengganu, Pahang etc could possibly be due to what he had analysed.
Definitely Bullshit - karmic retribution stems from the word 'karma', which Hindus and Buddhists will tell you, is personal to holder and does not affect others. Thus indiscriminating floods which affected thousands and thousands of innocent people could not be due to so-called karmic retribution.
As I have often say, leave alone teachings of religions you don't understand. BTW, is bloke allowed to use word 'karma' and to refer to its effect, which is non-Islamic teaching?
However, if he did not use the word 'karmic', he could well be right as I have read of a particular god who killed indiscriminately as in, for example, the Boxing Day tsunami and earlier, all the 1st born of ancient Egyptians sometime circa 13th to 15th Century BCE (around 3500 years ago).
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked.
ReplyDeleteOne reaps what one sows. ~ Galatians 6:7
And here they say that a person consists of desires,
and as is his desire, so is his will;
and as is his will, so is his deed;
and whatever deed he does, that he will reap.
~ Brihadaranyaka Upanishad
What goes around comes around.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TOrnUquxtwA
karma is a polite way of saying 'serve you right' by those seeking redemption...I wouldn't put too much religious connotation into it
ReplyDeleteAccording to some Buddhist monks in Malaysia, there is such a thing as collective karma.
ReplyDeleteHowever, it does not follow that 11 innocent people, mostly foreign workers would be killed in a landslide quite possibly due to the greed of the property developer. Likewise 7 people die in the floods which are partly due to the negligence or lack of control of hill cutting and soil erosion by the state government and/or local authority.
Quite often too, so called 'acts of God' mostly affect the innocent.
If only Komtar was flooded from the bottom floor all the way to the top, whilst the ground outside as well as areas surrounding it was dry, then that could be said to be of a miraculous nature due to the wrath of the divine.