Sunday, October 08, 2017

un-Chinese Tony Pua

Two years ago, I mentioned that much as I have been long a supporter of the DAP, I personally do not take kindly to Tony Pua (TP), who has been considered an ace on analysing economic-financial issues on government spending and calling the relevant ministers to account, ... BUT ...

come back Teresa, we miss you

and we miss you even more because of that arrogant bloke standing besides you

... who in my opinion is only a young political upstart, a parvenu on the socio-cultural-political sphere, one who hasn't quite acquired the necessary nous so vital in our Malay-dominant society to deal with Malay society, especially with the treacherous PKR, wakakaka.

Yes, TP for all his (so-called) technical expertise on financial matters was outfoxed by PKR leaders on both the exco formation during post-2013 election phase - for more on how he was outplayed by Khalid Ibrahim in the latter, read Selangor saga shows PKR's ketuanan mentality? - and 
the Kajang Bull where he was outplayed by the PKR inner coterie on the art of bullshit satay grilling, wakakaka.

I will shortly comment on why I have in the above para qualified 'his technical expertise on financial matters' as 'so-called', wakakaka.

Mind, in the Selangor multiple sagas, the DAP was not without its own f*up faults. The Selangor branch led by an inexperienced and at-that-time naive Tony Pua was somehow convinced into playing Chicken Little in the PKR's Kajang Satay shindig but without any benefits for DAP.

Au contraire, the DAP was placed in an uncomfy awkward position of being confrontational with HRH - obviously TP then was not very clever at Malaysian politics to place the state DAP on disagreeable terms with HRH. Matey, we're not quite Republicans yet, wakakaka.

Also, it embarrassed me when subsequently TP asked, nay, begged Azmin Ah Hneah (Abang) for a deputy Speaker post for DAP as a quid pro quo for supporting PKR.

WTF for, man, because that was akin to wandering into MCA, Gerakan and MIC territory of picking up f* meaningless crumbs!

Quite frankly I was damn glad, nay, grateful to Azmin Ali for once, wakakaka, that he spurned TP's Oliver Twist-like request, and put a merciful end to my pro-DAP shame. I was sure Azmin was acutely aware that yes, the DAP might have backed PKR but t'was Wan Azizah they supported rather than
 Azmin himself, wakakaka again.

wtf do you want?

can i please have a deputy speaker position for my party please?

But today, reading of the public spat between TP and MCA's See-To, which I have to admit was started by TP's rather pompous hubris-tic and arrogant dismissal of a debate with the latter because, according to TP, See-To was to him a 'nobody', I am reminded that TP might not be so shit-hot in economic affairs as we might have believed.

See-To informed us (and not denied by TP) TP’s Cybervillage suffered six straight years of continued losses from 2002 to 2007, whereafter he packed his bags, left Singapore for Selangor and joined DAP to bless the party with 'his technical expertise on financial matters', wakakaka.

I first heard about TP and his losses in TP’s Cybervillage from blogging matey Jed Yoong years ago. Jed was an accountant who revealed in her blog TP's losses in his dot-com business, so much for his economic-business expertise. I believed then she disliked TP for his arrogance.

I too personally had a run-in with TP via the Net but over a very small issue but in which he surprised me with his faint whiff of arrogance for a DAP politician - if TP were to ask me on this, another 'nobody', I'll be quite happy to remind him.

What has perhaps been not pretty (for DAP and me) was TP treating See-To with such nasty arrogant social contempt and also his 'mudah lupa-ness' that See-To was once his good matey who willingly loaned RM100k to him when his business had some cash flow problem.

Malaysiakini reported:

According to See-to, he and Pua had known each other for the last 15 years, when they both ran their respective IT companies and did business with each other and worked on joint projects.

“Since he listed his company amidst the dot-com rush in 2001, Tony Pua’s Cybervillage had straight six years of continued losses from 2002 to 2007, until Tony Pua left the company and joined DAP.

“When his company got into some cash-flow issues in 2005 or 2006, before he went into politics, he called me for a loan for (sic) RM100k, and within hours, it was this ‘nobody’ who gave it to him which he then gave me this IOU letter.” [...]

See-to further wrote that despite their political differences, he was one of the first to congratulate Pua when the latter was elected MP in 2008. Later, he also helped out by arranging fund-raising golf tournaments, he added.

“But I guess now he is a high-flying Member of Parliament, he can dismiss me as a nobody and no longer considers me as a friend.

“Times have changed, I guess you need to be at least a deputy minister these days before Tony Pua will layan you,” See-to said, adding he was compelled to reveal the IOU since Pua had fired the first shot. “YB Tony, you truly disappoint me. I guess fame and power has ubah (changed) you now,” he said, playing on DAP’s motto.

Thus what See-To has revealed merely confirmed what Jed Yoong informed me about ten years ago, and which I had a brief personal experience of.

TP's arrogance has been and still is an unjustified non-virtue for him if I may say so!

His current contemptible curt arrogance towards his beneficiary, erstwhile as the latter might be, has been very un-Chinese and un-Confucian-like, and perhaps very Chinese Christian?

As if the 'nobody' insult wasn't sickeningly un-Chinese enough, TP brazenly placed on his Facebook a rude disrespectful message to See-To as follows:

"Yes, you kindly provided me with a RM100,000 10-day loan for my then-company when we faced problems with our own debtors some 12 years ago - fully repaid, yes, 12 years ago. Yes, thank you very much.

"So, because of that, you are ‘somebody’? Because of that, you are terribly ‘hurt’? Are tears rolling out too? Do you need a pacifier?"

Disgusting, disrespectful, disappointing!

The other aspect of TP I want to grumble about, wakakaka, has been his insensitivity to non-Christian Chinese Malaysians, or more precisely, their Chinese folk religion. But first, a kaytee kiddie story:

When I was a kid I accompanied my mum to the funeral of a neighbour. The deceased was a Christian so a Chinese Christian preacher was there at the graveside to say the last words for her.

What shocked many of the villagers who attended the funeral, 99% being Buddhists, Confucianists, Taoists and Shenists (adherents of Chinese folk religion), were the extremely harsh, hostile and insulting words of the preacher during the sermon, with his derogatory words directed specifically at Buddha and Chinese gods. The sermon was delivered in Penang Hokkien, wakakaka, so the funeral party understood what he said.

The bloke seemed oblivious of who the majority of the funeral party were or rather, what were their religious affiliations and his gross insults to their gods, religions and beliefs.

He was lucky that he was not beaten up kau kau by some of the headstrong village young bucks who had to be forcefully restrained by village elders, who mollified the angry youths by appealing to their neighbourly goodwill to respect the last rite of the deceased by tolerating those insulting words.

Flash forward to last year February 2016 - to reiterate, despite my political sympathies and support for the DAP, I've little respect for TP. 
After reading the Feb-2016 Malaysiakini's How to explain a poor God of Fortune, Gerakan asks DAP I became even more disappointed in TP's insensitive behaviour towards Chinese folk religion.

The MKINI article informed us of Gerakan upset at DAP for a parody Chinese New Year music video which made fun of the Chinese God of Fortune as being poor, saying that this raised concerns what Chinese children would think if they saw the video.

Gerakan Youth secretary-general William Chang Yong Hsi said Chinese New Year songs were meant to bring in good vibes, thus turning the God of Fortune into a beggar was a 'huge disrespect' to Chinese beliefs and cultural traditions.
TP was the insensitive clown who had use disrespectful music video in a bid to win cheap political propaganda.

William Chang stated, "How would parents explain if their children were to see the God of Fortune looking so poor and terrible in the music video?"

"I am not promoting superstition but the God of Fortune is a symbol of good luck and wealth among the Chinese."

"Such disrespectful behaviour should be condemned."

I was not concerned so much by Gerakan Youth's worry for non-Christian Chinese parents to be able to explain to their children why the Chinese God of Fortune looked so poor and terrible in the music video.

I was just annoyed that TP, a known staunch Christian, showed gross disrespect for the believers of a non-Christian religion. But that's his arrogance showing through and through.

Sad to say, from my personal experience, some (not all) Chinese Christians have been notably very disrespectful towards beliefs in Buddhism, Confucianism and Taoism as if their belief is the only true religion.

Let me advice those DAP Christians - don't be mistaken that all your supporters are Christians like you. In fact most of them are Buddhists, Confucianists, Taoists, Hindus with only a smaller population being Muslims and Christians. You f**kers are the minority.

Yes, don't alienate most of your supporters.

Before I conclude, at least for now, wakakaka, I want to say that, unlike the anwaristas, wakakaka again, even as a long-time DAP supporter I will happily chew DAP politicians (like TP, wakakaka again) if I find anyone of them somewhat wanting.


  1. Replies
    1. You should play and squeeze them harder.

    2. wah, I am getting hot liao, wakakaka

    3. Prior to the 2008 GE it was Tony who issued a public statement to the effect that PR will sacked 30 percent of the civil servants in Malaysia if ever they came to power. And the following morning Anwar Ibrahim has to issue another 'damage control' statement denying that it was PR's policy to do so. And by then the damage has been done to PR. So my for the DAP's young upstart. Now the Malays besides those of the Zaid Ibrahim mentality will never touch the DAP with a 10 foot pole.

    4. what this guy wrote is nonsense . most probably he hates TP and wants his revenge . Yes fine , but why use religions among the chinese to divide them up ? this guy's TRUE INTENTIONS are nothing but really evil .He wants the chinese of different religions to fight each other then he will be happy . SENSELESS SHIT written by a senseless guy . A real moron !!

  2. pkr people dun talk n write in a superiority n condescending manner, unlike u dap fanboy.

    1. Not all DAP people are like that. Those who do work on the ground and go amongst their constituents are pretty decent people.

      However, most PKR people are generally humble and down to earth.

    2. fully agree with you which has been why I have supported DAP for aeons. my idols were the late Karpal Singh (I still love him) and would you believe, once upon a time, LKS

    3. sheiss, i know, the one i actually referring to is kt wakaka, n some mkini horde, perhaps many r not from dap, i dun know.

      whether one is good in biz, a banana or a christian is irrelevant, the one that criticize the chinese most include education, religion or culture could be people like me that might understand the chinese psyche better due to my education background.

      tp is relatively mild n inclusive, i am fine with his style, n i agree with tp tis see to is a nobody, all he can talk is 100k loan, suppose a private thing that have no concern to us public, is he not a nobody?

      y not ask kt to challenge najib for a debate n see what najib say or dun even wan to say? kt is a somebody?

  3. Tony Pua held PJ Utara with a whopping majority of 81.84% of the votes against a Chinese BN candidate in 2013, up from 67.92% in 2008.

    No wonder he is so arrogant, even to the extent of his insensitivity towards the beliefs and customs held by the majority of Malaysia's Chinese.

    Rather interestingly, in 2004 Chew Mei Fun of MCA got 62.16% of the votes versus Ronnie Liu of DAP who got 37.84% of the votes.

    I wonder what's it about Tony Pua that he can do so well in Pj Utara, whilst his own comrade Ronnie Liu lost to MCA, even with Liu having worked in an advertising agency Lowe Lintas & Partners. Lintas (Lever International Advertising Services) began as a house advertising agency for Lever Brothers in the UK, until 1930 when Lever Brothers merged with Margarine Union of the Netherlands to form Unilever and at the same time Lintas was spun off as an independent agency.

    That said, I'm no admirer of Tony Pua myself, since I feel that he is good at criticising and finding fault with the BN to gain political mileage but otherwise does not offer much in the way of alternatives.

    For instance, he criticised the KL MRT project for being overpriced but did not offer viable alternatives which would be cheaper whilst addressing the need for public transit in the Klang Valley.

    Apart from Kampung Tunku, Section 22, Damansara Jaya and Damansara Utama, many sections within his Petaling Jaya Utara constituency are pretty run down, dirty or congested.

    Tony Pua attended a meeting of our residents who were opposed to the building of the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway through our areas and when asked whether he would support us and opposed the elevated highway, he waffled and said that he is not against it as such but is open to hear residents' concerns about alignment, exit and ingress ramps, etc which he would try to have re-routed or re-aligned.

    Some residents, including myself told him off to his face that he should have been solidly behind us.

    I'm sure of BN was in charge of Selangor state atthe time, he would be down amongst us against the highway.

    Tony Pua did not turn up at our subsequent residents' meetings with Selangor state elected representatives and parliamentarians.

    Eventually, the Selangor State Government declined approval for the highway within Selangor, so it was not built.

    Rather interestingly, Tony Pua has a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics from Oxford, like his fellow alumnus Khairi Jamaludin.

    You don't hear of these two attacking each other, do you?

    I guess it's and Old Boy's Club thing.

    Also, this Oxfart graduate appears to be a banana, which could explain his arrogance towards Eric See-To and his insensitivity to the beliefs of the majority of Chinese.

    Meanwhile, Eric See-To's company Arahe develops web acceleration and web content management solutions and besides Malaysia, it has offices in Singapore, Jakarta and Mumbai, with partners in more countries.

    Well at least Eric See-To made a success of his company, unlike Tony Pua, though Cybervillage is still going strong in provide web and mobile e-banking and e-commerce solutions after Tony Pua exited.

    1. I used to tolerate TP and admired him for what I incorrectly believed to be his expertise. in economics Even when Jed Yoong told me the truth I was not yet convinced by her. But in recent times, his arrogance has broken through his sheen of bullshit glamour he has until now, when we should call him to account.

      I too am a banana but I was wakakaka "correctly brought up", wakakaka

    2. I too am a banana but I was wakakaka "correctly brought up", wakakaka...

      Wakakakaka... what's correctly brought up as a banana meant??

      Slightly tough outer yellow skin but soft chewy internal once exposed???

  4. very down to earth , reality views are more high regard than fiction. i like your style of writing. for your info , i am also a penang lang.

  5. Tony Pua is doing a good job as MP for PJ Utara. His service center does a creditable job addressing the concerns of every day folks.
    And he is doing an excellent job in Parliament, using his financial analysis skills, exposing the corruption and financial abuse of the current administration.

    Between Tony Pua and Rafizi Ramli, they have done a tremendous job exposing Mullah Najib's malfeasance, with facts and numbers.

    No doubt Mullah Najib supporters hate Tony Pua for that.

  6. Tony Pua has a brusque side to him, but nothing wrong with that.
    Sorry to say, MCA's Eric See-To really IS a nobody.

    His repeated demands to debate this or that person amounts to a cheap attempt at publicity.

    Contrast that to MCA's rapid self-silencing over the beer festival issue after Boss UMNO basically told them to shut up.

  7. "I too am a banana but I was wakakaka "correctly brought up", wakakaka"

    A lot of my Chinese friends are bananas and I have no issues with them. I am a brown coconut.

    And WRT - "my idols were the late Karpal Singh (I still love him) and would you believe, once upon a time, LKS".

    Rajiv Rishyakaran, the State Assemblyman for Bukit Gasing is a hardworking rep who has worked closely with my residents' association over issues which concern us on the ground, such as our opposition to the KiDEX highway, later the proposed PJD Link elevated highway and on other local issues over blocked drains, indiscriminate parking on residential roads, rubbish collection problems, potholed roads and so forth.

    Rajiv has hired someone to go around looking for potholes in roads which he reports to the Petaling Jaya Municipal Council for further action. That person's KPI is to find 10 or more potholes per day, Rajiv told us residents at a meeting over lunch.

    This is what I expect of from an elected representative.

    Still, I wonder what it is about Tony Pua which gets him so many votes compared to Ronnie Liu - or is it just the timing.

  8. outright nonsense written by a low mentality guy .