Trump says Zelensky is scared to hold elections in Ukraine

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🗳 Holding elections in wartime isn’t hard, Zelensky: here’s proof

Ukraine’s self-proclaimed ‘president’ is stonewalling US demands to hold elections to prove his legitimacy, citing the conflict with Russia, prompting an annoyed Trump to dub him a "dictator" with a “4% approval” rating.

Elections during wartime aren’t as difficult to organize as Zelensky implies.

🔴The US held a presidential vote in 1864, in the middle of its Civil War – the deadliest conflict in American history. Abraham Lincoln rejected calls by aides to suspend the vote, despite predictions he’d lose, stressing that elections were a test of a nation’s ability to be “strong enough to maintain its own existence in great emergencies.”

“We cannot have free governments without elections, and if the rebellion could force us to forgo, or postpone a national election, it might fairly claim to have already conquered and ruined us,” he famously said.

🔴The US held the 1944 election in the middle of WWII, and voted during a series of post-war conflicts, from Korea and Vietnam to the 2000’s ‘forever wars’ in Iraq and Afghanistan.

🔴Britain has done the same, choosing a new PM in 1945 while the Allies were still at war with Japan, resulting in a Potsdam Conference where Winston Churchill was replaced midway by Clement Attlee.

🔴Iran held elections in 1981 after the assassination of its president. Ali Khamenei, current Supreme Leader, was elected, and reelected in 1985. Through these years, Iran was engulfed in a brutal war with Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, which launched gas attacks targeting its military, and its cities.

🔴Iraq voted in 2005, two years after the US invasion, and at the height of a massive insurgency.

🔴Afghanistan held seven votes during NATO’s occupation (though they didn’t save the puppet government from crumbling once the West pulled out).

🔴Same goes for other countries wracked by long-term conflicts, from Colombia and Sri Lanka to Syria and the DRC, which continued voting during civil strife and foreign-backed dirty wars.

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Malaysia suspended local (town/city) council elections (3rd level elections) during the period when we faced Konfrontasi (Confrontation) with Indonesia. We have never got those elections back even long after the Konfrontasi has been over.

Additionally Hadi Awang has threatened Malaysians with 'May 13' again if we were to hold such local elections. Apparently he fears such councils would be dominated by non-Malays (with his narrow-minded mentality).

Grilled over third vote in London, Hadi brings up May 13



Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang (centre) speaks during a dialogue session in London. — Picture via Facebook/Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang

Tuesday, 25 Dec 2018 5:18 PM MYT


PETALING JAYA, Dec 25 — A dialogue session with PAS president Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang in London yesterday turned into a heated verbal exchange between participants after he invoked the spectre of the bloody May 13 racial riots in warning against local elections.

According to a report by Malaysiakini, Abdul Hadi was earlier responding to a question by a participant on why the former was against the implementation of local council elections.

“When an election is contested only by residents [and does not include those who serve the residents], it is certain that big cities such as Kuala Lumpur, Ipoh, Penang, Seremban, and Johor Baru would be dominated by DAP Chinese.

“They can make alcohol and gambling permissible,” he reportedly said in the event held by PAS supporters’ club in the United Kingdom, but the report did not state his proof for the assertion.

He argued that local elections must be inclusive so that cities are not dominated by just one race.

“So an election must involve the taxi drivers, traders, and all those who make a city alive.

“If only one race is in power then a situation like in May 13, 1969 may arise again, we don’t want that,” he said in the report.