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hmmm, shall I call it a Penang nyiok-fest? |
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here you are Yang Amat Berhormat, always ready to |
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dei mappallai, this nice toddy came from nyiok |
SHAH ALAM, Oct 12 — The annual Oktoberfest is not a beer festival but
SHAH ALAM, Oct 12 — The annual Oktoberfest is not a beer festival but an event that is celebrated annually by non-Muslims, says Economic Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Azmin Ali.
Speaking at a forum held at Karangkraf’s headquarters here today, Azmin said only a small group had criticised the event and claimed it to be a beer festival.
“I do not want to be involved and dragged into such polemic. I have had prior experience on how Oktoberfest was managed in Selangor,” said Azmin, who held the Selangor Mentri Besar post for four years before appointed as a federal minister in May.
“There is a small group that had criticised it and gave the illustration that it is a beer festival but this is not true. It is merely an annual event.”
Azmin said Johor and other states had also held the events peacefully in the past.
The PKR leader maintains that the Pakatan Harapan government holds a strong stance in upholding Islam but at the same time it cannot restrict the practices of other races.
“The government’s policy is to not only uphold Islam, but we also cannot restrict other cultures and the practices of other races. This is something we have implemented and we do not see any problem with it.
, says Economic Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Azmin Ali.Speaking at a forum held at Karangkraf’s headquarters here today, Azmin said only a small group had criticised the event and claimed it to be a beer festival.
“I do not want to be involved and dragged into such polemic. I have had prior experience on how Oktoberfest was managed in Selangor,” said Azmin, who held the Selangor Mentri Besar post for four years before appointed as a federal minister in May.
“There is a small group that had criticised it and gave the illustration that it is a beer festival but this is not true. It is merely an annual event.”
Azmin said Johor and other states had also held the events peacefully in the past.
The PKR leader maintains that the Pakatan Harapan government holds a strong stance in upholding Islam but at the same time it cannot restrict the practices of other races.
“The government’s policy is to not only uphold Islam, but we also cannot restrict other cultures and the practices of other races. This is something we have implemented and we do not see any problem with it.
That's how clever or slimy or dangerous Azmin Ali is, wakakaka. He is smooth as silk which has been why he's favoured by HRH Selangor. Guan Eng (and especially dumbo Chicken Little) would be just like kindergarten kids compared to Azmin's political skills.
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But much as he claims the non-alcoholic nature of Octoberfest, which by the way, originated in Bavaria Germany, there will be mucho yamseng-ing during the celebrations.
Wikipedia tells us about the origin of Octoberfest (extracts only):
To honour the marriage of Prince Ludwig and Therese of Saxe-Hildburghausen, a parade took place for the first time in 1810. Since 1850, the parade has become an annual event and an important component of the Oktoberfest. Eight thousand people—mostly from Bavaria—and dressed in traditional costumes walk from Maximilian Street through the centre of Munich to the Oktoberfest grounds. The march is led by the Münchner Kindl. [...]
n 1887, the parade of the Oktoberfest staff and breweries took place for the first time. This event showcases the splendidly decorated horse teams of the breweries and the bands that play in the festival tents. This event always takes place on the first Saturday of the Oktoberfest and serves as the official prelude to the Oktoberfest celebration. [...]
At the 100th anniversary of Oktoberfest in 1910, an estimated 120,000 litres of beer were consumed. Three years later, the "Bräurosl" was founded, which at that time was the largest pavilion to have ever been built, accommodating approximately 12,000 people. [...]
A specially brewed beer (solely available at the tents of the historical Oktoberfest), horse races, and a museum tent gave visitors an impression of how the event felt two centuries ago.
In 2013, 6.4 million people visited Oktoberfest, and visitors were served 6.7 million litres of beer.
Wakakaka, Prost (yamseng) and Zum wohl (to your health)!
In 2013, 6.4 million people visited Oktoberfest, and visitors were served 6.7 million litres of beer.
Wakakaka, Prost (yamseng) and Zum wohl (to your health)!
But just a reminder that there are a lot of sins in Palu, and more than 10,000 lives have perished. More than 7,000 still buried. All rescue operations have been called off.
ReplyDeleteTaking advantage and enjoying, celebrating and attributing natural calamities due to one's own religious beliefs at others miseries and death must be one of the lowest low life and totally lack of sympathy and compassion in a person calling himself a human being.
DeleteWhy Palu only? What about natural calamities in other parts of Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Europe. USA, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Japan and other countries?
Those who hope evil deeds and death upon others surely have evil hearts in them who also belief their God/Gods/Allah are as equally evil as they are.
I thought they are all called Satans/Setans in Abrahamic religions?
So, what's your beef ?
ReplyDeleteLast year, BN administered Federal Territory barred the Oktoberfest, while it continued as usual in Selangor.
Azmin deserves some credit for that.
It is actually a German cultural event and not a major cultural event for Malaysians. Celebrating and embracing others cultural festivities shows the open mindedness of Malaysians in a world of cultural and religious diversity.
ReplyDeleteMalaysians should learn to embrace and celebrate others cultural diversities and their festivities whether it belongs to Malaysians or other nationalities.
If a cultural or religious celebration is not permitted for anyone, based on the restrictions of their own beliefs or religions, you just don't attend and stay away. Anyway , the event is a closed event and clearly Moslems are advised to not attend due to non-Halal drinks and food being served such as Ham, pork sausages, roasted pork ribs etc.
Why enforce your own bigoted beliefs or religious values onto others and stop others from celebrating others cultural festivities?
The excuse usually given that because Beer (alcohol) is consumed at such cultural events and thus should be banned because of their religious beliefs just shows the bigoted views of some of these religious adherents.
Air ketum, nyior, nira, tuak, rice wine, tempeh, tempoyak are also being eaten, drunk and consumed all over Malaysia and are in the same class as beer which causes different degrees of intoxication and are being sold openly in public and no one seems to object due to their religious beliefs.
The conclusion one can make to those against such cultural celebrations is that it is more of a Racist bigoted objection rather than a purely religious objection.
To these Racists and Religious bigots, it may start with Octoberfest then followed by Valentine then Chinese New Year then Hari Menuai, then Hari Kaamatan, then Hari Gawai etc since all these are also cultural festivities and non-Halal drinks and food are also consumed.
So, to those bigoted racial and religious bigots better get real to live in this multi-cultural, multi-religious and multi-racial Nation and World.
A Govt. of a Nation should be responsible enough to ensure such racists and bigoted religious persons are not allowed to dictate what cultural or religious festivals or celebrations should or should not be held.
I have a secular criticism of how Malaysians now celebrate any festival under the sun, such as Halloween, Oktoberfest and what next - perhaps Thanksgiving, and may soon add the U.S. independence day on the 4th of July, Guy Fawkes Day, Canada Day, ANZAC Day, Timbucktoo Day and so forth which are not relevant to the religions, culture, history and traditions of our people.
DeleteWhilst it should not be banned for those who wish to celebrate it, especially Germans resident in Malaysia, however Oktoberfest in Malaysia is a commercial event organised by the beer companies, with a veneer of Bavarian culture, whilst Halloween (the western equivalent of Cheng Beng) is celebrated commercially to make money.
This only shows how culturally shallow and culturally cheap, especially Malaysia's urban, English-literate, western educated, Malaysian middle-class are.
They also hold farting competitions in the west - let's hold them here too. If any shit comes out, the contestant is disqualified.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWFj63ZuBpg
We could also next have a spicy sambal belacan eating competition and cili padi eating competition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbG2RuQsAO4
However, I wouldn't object if Malaysians celebrated the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution each 7th of November (Gregorian Calendar) with the singing of the Internationale.
I also wouldn't object if Malaysians celebrated Fête de la Fédération, the French National Day (a.k.a.) Bastille Day each 14 July before an actual operational guillotine in action.
So your beef is with beer companies in celebrating such cultural festivals and events?
DeleteWhat's the next justification? Events sponsored by Pork/Non-Halal/Jewish/non-Moslems/non-Hijab wearing companies?
It's not a public event sponsored by the Govt. and it is a closed event to celebrate others cultural festivals.
Nobody forced you to attend and that does not mean you stop others not of your own cultural ideas and beliefs from celebrating such events.
Why bring in other non-cultural idiosyncracies events to justify your own perceptions?
"Nobody forced you to attend and that does not mean you stop others not of your own cultural ideas and beliefs from celebrating such events."
DeleteWhere did I say that such events such as Oktoberfest should be banned in Malaysia?
All I said is that especially urban, middle class Malaysians are increasingly celebrating all kinds of events unrelated to our history, cultures, religions, traditions and so forth, and mostly due to commercialisation by busineses out to make money off them.
I'm fine with festivals of different foreign cuisine, art, music, culture, dance, handicraft, films and so forth organised by the embassies or communities of persons from these countries in restaurants, hotels or venues and I have attended several of them myself.
However, I find the wide commercialisation of foriegn cultural events such as Oktoberfest, Halloween, Thanksgiving. as well as our domestic Malaysian festivals by businesses to be cheap.
I'd sooner prefer they just create a festival called "Annual Get Pissed Drunk Fest", which would be more honest or "Gluttonously Gorge until You Vomit Fest", where they provide guests with an emetic which guests take to make them vomit up what they had eaten, so they can eat more, then vomit it up and eat more, like the Romans used to do.
Chinese, Indians and other non-Muslims drink, and by and large have no inter-racial or religious issues between themselves. Maybe alcohol is the reason. Bottoms Up!!
ReplyDeleteI remember, when racial and religious differences were not so pronounced in Malaysia, Chinese, Indian's, Malays and others who drank alcohol together got along fine.
DeleteWhat a cockagroo from a wordsmith who has run out of idea to rant!
Delete"But much as he claims the non-alcoholic nature of Octoberfest, which by the way, originated in Bavaria Germany, there will be mucho yamseng-ing during the celebrations."
For the CinaBeng all over the world, bolihland included, nothing is more cultural than the joyful celebration of the wedding dinners. & yamseng to your health with various alcoholic drinks IS a must of that events!
So what say u, bloody mindless provocateur - Oktoberfest is linked with beer drinking so r the Chinese wedding with various alcoholic bevrages. In fact, any earthling wedding, wakakakaka…… DONT discount the zombie tribes too!
So ban them ALL lah!
I haven't drunk toddy for a long while.
ReplyDeleteLet's have a Toddytoberfest.