Sunday, November 22, 2015

Chinese PKR against DAP

Malaysiakini - Penang Umno motion - PKR reps' conscience, or planned revolt?

The above is an article penned by CM Lim Guan Eng himself. He wrote (relevant extracts only):

The five PKR assemblypersons who abstained from voting cannot be dismissed as an act of a loner, but pre-planned and organised. PKR whip Ong Chin Wen the assemblyperson for Bukit Tengah told the press that the PKR 5 abstained in accordance with their conscience and that it “reflected the current political situation”.

Does this mean that their own four PKR assemblypersons holding government posts, namely Penang deputy speaker Maktar Shapee, the three PKR excos of Deputy Chief Minister I Mohd Rashid Hasnon, Abdul Malik Abul Kassim and Afif Bahardin, who voted against Umno’s motion have no conscience?

What type of current political situation is he talking about when the Umno assemblypersons had earlier opposed PKR’s motion to ask that imprisoned PKR leader, Anwar Ibrahim, be given medical treatment of his choice as well as refused to answer to questions relating to the RM2.6 billion donation scandal?

Abstention by the PKR 5, as a BN daily emphasised, is as good as supporting Umno’s motion and an “act of mutiny from within”. Can the PKR 5 be counted upon as a reliable or dependable partner, ally or member of the Penang state government?

If you note carefully, the 5 PKR ADUN who did not support the Penang Pakatan government consisted of 4 Chinese, while the 4 PKR ADUN who supported the state government have been all Malays.

I suspect this has more to do with the Chinese section of PKR being ferociously against DAP. Once I had written:

The truth is that PKR (if we leave out the PRM component) has been KeADILan has been UMNO.

It undeniably possesses UMNO genes and characteristics though it claims to be multi-racial, a claim somewhat discredited by Anwar Ibrahim's poor treatment of many of its erstwhile Indian members who left in droves - but then if they hadn't, would Azmin Ali have a chance of becoming party deputy president and eventually party president?

So while the ex-UMNO members represent the core of PKR and dominate party policies and decision making, and precisely because of all these, the nons want so desperately to demonstrate their relevance in the party.

And, hey hey hey, there's the PKR Chinese faction, with its unspoken faction leadership reputed to have been assumed by Tian Chua.

Tian Chua is of course not his birth/legal name, which is Chua Tian Chang. It's obvious he has clung on to his Aussie-given name.

Western nations have this (culturally) bad habit of westernizing Chinese names by relegating the Chinese surname to being the last name (where the western surname stands), thus Chua Tian Chang became Tian Chang Chua, and under the Western-Christian naming concept, which has the First name (Personal or as Malaysians know it, Christian name), then Middle name, and finally Last name (or Surname), Tian was believed to be his 'First' name, thus Tian Chua, not unlike Elvis Presley from Elvis (1st name) Aaron (Middle name) Presley (last name) wakakaka.

Hmmm, I wonder what his parents or siblings call him? Probably Chai or Chang.

For more of Australian (western) mangling of Chinese names, please read my post What's in a name! wakakaka.

And I wonder what role/status former MCA man Chua Jui Meng has in PKR, and what threat he poses to the current leadership of Tian Chua? But sorry, thus has to be another story.

Anyway, long before the 'Lim GE is an arrogant and cocky tokong' brouhaha, courtesy of PKR's Mansor Othman wakakaka, Tian Chua had been well aware that his Heavenly Snake faction in PKR might not have a role at all, or at best only a token one, if Anwar Ibrahim were to see DAP as the Pakatan component to be given responsibility for Chinese and Indian majority constituencies.

Tian Chua's fear has now crystallized into reality and thus become a current contentious issue within PKR, as reported in the Malaysia Chronicle’s MUTINY IN PKR: Anwar under fire for "betraying" members over seats. I'll discuss this further in a while.

Oh, BTW, I was told by a friend that Tian Chua has mucho influence in Malaysian Chronicle, wakakaka.

Thus, prior to 2008, in order to prevent such a terrifying Pakatan status quo (of Anwar accepting DAP as the Pakatan component party to be given responsibility for Chinese and Indian majority constituencies) from setting in to the disadvantage of the Heavenly Snake faction, he and his cohorts had the treacherous habit of making pre-emptive strikes against DAP in seat allocations, by making unilateral media announcements of seat allocations for Pakatan (not PKR) which strangely, if you believe in coincidences wakakaka, usually favoured PKR.

Of course those 'unilateral' announcements meant that DAP leaders would, after reading the morning news, invariably exclaim 'WTF!' wakakaka.

Alas, despite all its pre-emptive strikes, the general success (or lack of) by PKR in elections has been noticeably inferior to DAP , especially in Sarawak, and coupled with the avalanche-like dominance of DAP in Penang DUN, have dampened their (Chinese) members' confidence severely, thus it was hardly surprising these PKR members in Penang desperately sought Mansor Othman's assurances that he would not relinquish any of PKR's seats allocated in 2008, even the ones they lost, to DAP.

The Chinese PKR faction’s fears have been realized today, following news of Anwar's agreement with DAP that Karpal Singh's party will contest in the federal seats of Bentong (Pahang) and Gelang Patah (Johor).

Continuing with Lim GE's piece in Malaysiakini, we read:

Equally disturbing is Ong’s claim that the five PKR assemblypersons had decided to abstain and duly informed their party leadership. However he refused to say which PKR national leader he had informed. Ong also admitted that the other four PKR assemblypersons who supported the Penang state government by opposing Umno’s motion had no knowledge that the PKR 5 intended to abstain.

This is a clear sign of dissatisfaction by the PKR 5 or even a mutiny against the 4 PKR assemblypersons holding government posts.

If true, this shows that there is a party within a party in PKR, one comprising of those holding government posts and the other comprising backbenchers which appeared to be backed by national PKR leaders.

Hmmm indeed, I wonder who that PKR national leader is? Wakakaka.


  1. nonsensical rant again. conscience is not absolute truth, more likely one own honest feeling base on his own moral judgement at that time, it is never in any case express or imply others as no conscience, y yr thought is so black or white like that bush?

    dap is essentially a non malay party, their party philosophy is abt non malay n malay in every aspect, that is y they cant accept the fact that pkr is a multi racial party, one cant find any malay in penang dap adun, dap is now trying to impose their non malay n malay value into pkr, that is y they pick only pkr malay into penang state govt n ignore the pkr non malay, this is dapcracy but they still wan to argue everything they did is merit base, what a bunch of joker.

    pkr not lead by dictator like what umno n dap did, so it doesn't matter who is the national leader. we act base on conscience, not umno kind of money plus racist politics or dap type of non malay n malay dapcracy politics.

    1. another nonsense by HY in saying "that is y they pick only pkr malay into penang state govt n ignore the pkr non malay"

      PKR exco members in Penang state govt have been selected by PKR. DAP has no say in any of the PKR ADUN selected. The case of changing Penang's DCM I was a classic point on this. To argue to an extreme point (forced on to me by HY's rant) doesn't this show PKR's ketuanan priority

    2. also, re "pkr not lead by dictator like what umno n dap did" please recall the wasteful by-election in Kajang - that's only one example of which many others exist, wakakaka

    3. u mean the cm only have power to fire, as in the dcm n pas case, but no say to appoint? it sound like tis cm is no diff with the previous bn one kah?

    4. which part of the kajang election resemble dictatorship, everyone is given a choice to chose. wasteful or not is another topic to discuss, dun divert.

  2. My view as a person of Penang origin and a long-term DAP supporter is that the voting incident needs to be examined from the perspective of the public issues surrounding the subject matter, instead of a superficial PKR vs. DAP conflict.

    There is definitely serious public anxiety and concern in Penang on the subject of land reclamation, as well as a need for the DAP-led State Government to exercise more transparency on proposed and planned land reclamations.

    Take one example that I have a direct interest as I have relatives living in the area. There is definitely some kind of proposal going on for land reclamation on the coast off Permatang Damar Laut, near the airport at Bayan Lepas. Contractors working for Unknown clients have been carrying out the kind of sea-bed and on-shore technical surveys usually associated with prospective large scale land reclamation projects.

    Lim Guan Eng's administration cannot just say "there is no approval given for land reclamation" and refuse to engage the public any further. That is Nonsensical BN-style We Are The Boss government. I was very disappointed with the turn of events.

    Assuming the Penang State Government is telling he truth, yes, no land reclamation project has been approved off Permatang Damar Laut. But a serious proposal being discussed with a private developer (the likely current status) should be subject to public disclosure and public feedback.

    By the time a project is approved, it is way too late to seek public input.

    Large land reclamation projects usually have very significant environmental repercussions, and the public and society in general is usually left holding the costs. The benefits of the land reclamation projects are usually reaped by a very small, select group of private developers.

    That is a dead end road of Crony Capitalism which Lim Guan Eng and his administration must learn not to take.

    1. I agree totally with your analysis

    2. Boss, the folks in his kampong still call him 'ah tee'. Hehehe. Hey people, bite someone!

  3. Let us not waste much time on this PKR faction withing faction party.When GE 14 has finally come and gone,it will be relegated to the ranks of a mosquito party like the Gerakan or PSM.Or even worse as it will ceased to exists,even as a mosquito party.Good rioddance to bad,bad and very bad garbage.

  4. this is all about the on-going land reclamation projects in the island. problems may not happen if the state dap chairman was made the chief minister. apa guan eng mau sebok kat penang. maybe you dah lama tak balik kampong. so, the 5 pkr chaps are wakil rakyat and not wakil parti and they are not with the state opposition either. well done. that's all i want to say.

    1. Malaysiakini just reported:

      PKR state communications director Ahmad Farid Md Arshad has defended Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng, saying the five PKR assemblypersons should not have abstained on an Umno’s motion on sea reclamation at the recently-concluded Penang state legislative assembly.

      Ahmad Farid also supported the decision by Deputy Chief Minister I Rashid Hasnon (PKR-Pantai Jerejak), state executive councillors Abdul Malik Kassim (PKR-Batu Maung) and Dr Afif Bahardin (PKR-Seberang Jaya) to vote against the Umno motion.

      “The state assemblypersons should have rejected Umno’s motion, they ought to be with the state government in the interest of the people,” Farid said in an event in Bagan today.

      “In whatever issue concerning Penang, there should be a consensus among us as we have the same mandate to govern the state as Pakatan Harapan.

    2. sorry, forgot to add "WAKAKAKA"

    3. kita sama2 tengok what will happen to those 5, ada wayang baru ka?

    4. And perhaps kampong lad... also to DAP's Tanjung Bungah - Teh Yee Cheu who had supported the motion and later apologized.

  5. "If true, this shows that there is a party within a party in PKR, one comprising of those holding government posts and the other comprising backbenchers which appeared to be backed by national PKR leaders."

    With Fuziah Salleh supporting the PKR 5, and who even said that the PKR 5 should have voted for the motion i.e. supporting UMNO's motion, it thus really reflects the current political situation in PKR.

  6. Ktemoc's raison d'etre for Blogging.

    a) Whack Anwar Ibrahim & family & PKR wherever possible and as often as possible.
    Fuck the facts and circumstances.

    b) Give succour to and repel the critics of the World's Greatest Prime Minister , Najib Razak whenever possible.
    Fuck the Billion Ringgit donations.

    If the two objectives can be served combined in one post, wonderful

    1. most times your wild reckless accusations (based on blind hatred) amuse me tho' I've to admit sometimes I'm exasperated by your silly conclusions, befitting that of a primary school student - wait, on 2nd thoughts I've insulted those primary school students, wakakaka

    2. Hatred ? Nah....
      I have tremendous compassion for your deep misguidedness. sad...such a waste of talent, such great effort and energy direct to wrong purpose........

    3. Even Richard Feynman may even attempt to kill ktemoc. Truly disagree to atheists united in the world

      Fuck you kaytee........hahahahaha