Insensitive Ingrate calls Ronnie a chauvinist

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Liu is the Chinese chauvinist we do not need, says Pua

Tony Pua (left) says Ronnie Liu is suggesting that DAP should be like MCA.

PETALING JAYA: Damansara MP Tony Pua has slammed party colleague Ronnie Liu for asking DAP not to “dilute its Chineseness”, saying Liu “is the Chinese chauvinist that DAP does not need”.

He said Liu, the Sungai Pelek assemblyman, wanted DAP to reverse the progress it had made to “become a more inclusive party that is more representative of all Malaysians”, to protect its “Chineseness”.

“That is as chauvinist as one can get and DAP can certainly do without such chauvinists in the party,” Pua said in a statement today.

In simpler terms, he said, Liu was arguing that DAP should stick to the formula as being the alternative to MCA.

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kt notes:

Tony Pua made his OWN kerbau-ish conclusion that Ronnie Liu wanted the DAP to be the alternative to the MCA. Kerbau, Ronnie did NOT say that, but just:

“DAP is a multi-racial party. The party need not dilute its Chineseness just because of the criticism from our political enemies."

“We have to safeguard the culture of the party, as well as the party’s constitutional spirit, pluralistic and democratic political struggle."

“DAP is for all Malaysians. We need to cooperate with other Malay parties, but we shouldn’t degrade or portray ourselves as a non-Chinese party."

“You would not get Malay support by these approaches.”

Everything Ronnie said did NOT indicate his wish for the DAP to be a mono-ethnic political party, to wit:

(i) DAP is a multi-racial party
(ii) pluralistic ..... political struggle
(iii) DAP is for all Malaysians.

In fact, earlier Hannah Yeoh has accused Ronnie of "For Ronnie, Tun M can do no right. For Ronnie, Anwar can do no wrong".

Would a chauvinistic Ronnie Liu support Anwar Ibrahim, a Malay, so ardently and so consistently?

We know that the Selangor DAP is gearing up for its party elections, and Tony Pua must still be smarting from his loss of the party state Chairman post to Gobind Deo in the last DAP Selangor party elections. I wouldn't be surprised if Ronnie Liu had led the grassroot movement to dump Tony Pua from the party state's highest post - I hope so, wakakaka.

Six years ago, I wrote that much as I have been long a supporter of the DAP (but updated to 'not now' until someone resigns, wakakaka), I personally do not take kindly to Tony Pua.

Tony Pua has been considered an ace on analysing economic-financial issues on government spending and calling the relevant ministers to account, ... BUT ...... who in my opinion then was only a young political upstart, a parvenu on the socio-cultural-political sphere, one who hadn't quite acquired the necessary nous so vital in our Malay-dominant society to deal with Malay society, especially with the then treacherous PKR, wakakaka.

Yes, Pua for all his (so-called) technical expertise on financial matters was outfoxed by PKR leaders on both the exco formation during the post-2013 election phase - for more on how he was outplayed by Khalid Ibrahim in the latter, read Selangor saga shows PKR's ketuanan mentality? - and the Kajang Bull where he was outplayed by the PKR inner coterie on the art of bullshit satay grilling, wakakaka.

It also embarrassed me greatly when subsequently Pua asked, nay, begged Azmin Ah Hneah (Abang) for a deputy Speaker post for DAP as a quid pro quo for supporting PKR.

WTF for, man, because that was akin to wandering into MCA, Gerakan and MIC territory of picking up f* meaningless crumbs! Yes, in retrospect, Pua had unwittingly wanted DAP to be like MCA - an irony when he now accuses Ronnie of that. 

Quite frankly I was then damn glad, nay, grateful to Azmin Ali for once, (before we know him as what he is, wakakaka), that he spurned Pua's Oliver Twist-like request, and put a merciful end to my pro-DAP shame.

I was sure Azmin was acutely aware that yes, the DAP might have backed PKR but t'was Wan Azizah they supported rather than Azmin himself, wakakaka again.

wtf do you want?

can i please have a deputy speaker position for my party please?

Four years ago, there was a public spat between Pua and MCA's See-To, when See-To asked for a debate with him. Pua of course refused but there was no need to be so eff-ing insulting nor rude when declining See-To's request.

Pua in rejecting See-To's request for a debate, was extremely crude and rude to the latter, insulting See-To as a 'nobody', a very unnecessary arrogant and rude look-down even at a political competitor.

That was when I was reminded that Pua might not be so shit-hot in economic affairs as we might have believed. What See-To then revealed merely confirmed what blogging matey Jed Yoong informed me (about 14 years ago).

Malaysiakini had then reported:

According to See-to, he and Pua had known each other for the last 15 years, when they both ran their respective IT companies and did business with each other and worked on joint projects.

“Since he listed his company amidst the dot-com rush in 2001, Tony Pua’s Cybervillage had straight six years of continued losses from 2002 to 2007, until Tony Pua left the company and joined DAP.

“When his company got into some cash-flow issues in 2005 or 2006, before he went into politics, he called me for a loan for (sic) RM100k, and within hours, it was this ‘nobody’ who gave it to him which he then gave me this IOU letter.” [...]

See-to further wrote that despite their political differences, he was one of the first to congratulate Pua when the latter was elected MP in 2008. Later, he also helped out by arranging fund-raising golf tournaments, he added.

“But I guess now he is a high-flying Member of Parliament, he can dismiss me as a nobody and no longer considers me as a friend.

“Times have changed, I guess you need to be at least a deputy minister these days before Tony Pua will layan you,” See-to said, adding he was compelled to reveal the IOU since Pua had fired the first shot. “YB Tony, you truly disappoint me. I guess fame and power has ubah (changed) you now,” he said, playing on DAP’s motto.

Pua's contemptible curt arrogance towards See-To, actually his beneficiary, erstwhile as the latter might be, was very un-Chinese and un-Confucian-like. OK, go ahead now and call kaytee a Chinese 'chauvinistic' wakakaka.

As if the 'nobody' insult wasn't sickeningly un-Chinese enough, TP brazenly placed on his Facebook a rude disrespectful message to See-To as follows:

"Yes, you kindly provided me with a RM100,000 10-day loan for my then-company when we faced problems with our own debtors some 12 years ago - fully repaid, yes, 12 years ago. Yes, thank you very much."

"So, because of that, you are ‘somebody’? Because of that, you are terribly ‘hurt’? Are tears rolling out too? Do you need a pacifier?"

Yes, See-To was his matey in Singapore when they were doing business and had loaned Pua urgently needed cash just on Pua's request. And that was how Pua treated his beneficiary. Utterly disgusting, disrespectful, disappointing!

The other aspect of Pua had been his insensitivity to non-Christian Chinese Malaysians, or more precisely, their Chinese folk religion. But first, a kaytee kiddie story:

When I was a kid I accompanied my mum to the funeral of a neighbour. The deceased was a Christian so a Chinese Christian preacher was there at the graveside to say the last words for her.

What shocked many of the villagers who attended the funeral, 99% being Buddhists, Confucianists, Taoists and Shen-ists (adherents of Chinese folk religion), were the extremely harsh, hostile and insulting words of the Christian preacher during the sermon, with his derogatory words directed specifically at Buddha and Chinese gods. The sermon was delivered in Penang Hokkien, wakakaka, so the funeral party understood what he said.

The bloke seemed oblivious of who the majority of the funeral party were or rather, what were their religious affiliations and his unbelievable crass crude and contemptible insults to their gods, religions and beliefs.

He was lucky that he was not beaten up kau-kau by some of the headstrong village young bucks who had to be forcefully restrained by village elders, who mollified the angry youths by appealing to their neighbourly goodwill and etiquette to respect the last rites of the deceased by tolerating those insulting words.

Flash forward to February 2016 - to reiterate, despite my political sympathies and support for the DAP, I've little respect for TP. After reading the Feb-2016 Malaysiakini's How to explain a poor God of Fortune, Gerakan asks DAP I became even more disappointed at Pua's insensitive behaviour towards Chinese folk religion.

The MKINI article informed us of Gerakan upset at DAP for a parody Chinese New Year music video which made fun of the Chinese God of Fortune as being poor, saying that this raised concerns on what Chinese children would think if they saw the video.

Gerakan Youth secretary-general William Chang Yong Hsi said Chinese New Year songs were meant to bring in good vibes, thus Pua's parody turning the God of Fortune into a beggar was a 'huge disrespect' to Chinese beliefs and cultural traditions. Pua was the insensitive clown who used disrespectful music video in a bid to win cheap political propaganda.

William Chang stated, "How would parents explain if their children were to see the God of Fortune looking so poor and terrible in the music video?"

"I am not promoting superstition but the God of Fortune is a symbol of good luck and wealth among the Chinese."

"Such disrespectful behaviour should be condemned."

Indeed, what a pariah-ish podah of a person, the last person to call anyone chauvinistic when he himself should be looking at the mirror first and asking himself why Selangor DAP grassroot had voted him out as party Chairman, wakakaka.

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