Monday, April 29, 2019

Malaysian Muslims are bullied in Malaysia?

Malaysiakini - Perlis mufti questions preacher's arrest for allegedly insulting Hinduism (extracts)

Perlis mufti Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin (left) defends his close associate Muhammad Zamri Vinoth Kalimuthu

FMT photo

Perlis mufti Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin has questioned the arrest of independent preacher Muhammad Zamri Vinoth Kalimuthu for allegedly insulting Hinduism in a sermon, which was uploaded on the internet.

"This is the reality we are seeing today. All kinds of statements are made by individuals in the government that insult Muslims and cause racial tension but are only called up to give their statement.

"Many cases where the Prophet Muhammad was insulted and Islam belittled also only saw perpetrators summoned to have their statement recorded.

"But a preacher who shared his personal experience in converting to Islam in a mosque in Kelantan which was only intended for Muslims ended up with an arrest," he said in a Facebook posting.

Firstly, let me get a wee bit of trivial curiosity out of the way before I discuss the post's topic, by way of the following 2 questions:

Q1: If arrested preacher Muhammad Zamri Vinoth Kalimuthu is a convert, and presumbly a Malaysian, why hasn't he been named with a 'bin Abdullah' (as our famous Ridhuan Tee has been)?

Q2: Has this 'special' dispensation been granted because the bloke is a student and acolyte of the controversial Dr Zakir Naik?

For more on the mandatory 'bin Abdullah' moniker, see my earlier posts:

Zamri Vinoth Kalimuthu with Dr Zakir Naik on right

OK, back on issue, wakakaka. 

Dr Asri has been mad because his mate preacher Zamri Vinoth, as mentioned, a convert to Islam and a devotee of Dr Zakir Naik, has been arrested following some 800 plus police reports made against him for allegedly insulting Hinduism.

In contrast to the above, he reckoned the authority, now under the Pakatan Harapan government, has been (too bloody) 'soft' on Hindus as allegedly in the Seafield temple tragedy where a Muslim fireman was fatally injured in a riotous situation but no culprit was arrested.

l to r: Shiva the Destroyer, Vishnu the Preserver, Brahma the Creator
obviously an icon of Vaishnavism tradition (denomination) of Hinduism as Vishnu is given prominence in the centre

if the icon is from Shaivism tradition, Shiva would of course be standing in the middle as in icon below

and please don't ask me why there is no tradition honouring Brahma 

Dr Asri lamented: “I don’t blame the police, but this is happening due to a political reality that allows Muslims to be bullied.”

Muslims being bullied? In Malaysia? And in Peninsula Malaysia?

Obviously Dr Asri has gone grossly overboard with his accusation, but we expected him to do that as he has a traditional problem with Hindus, Hinduism and I suspect, also Dr Ramasamy, head of the Penang Hindu Endowment Board.

Hey mateys, Dr Asri has even composed a poem, said (allegedly) to be against Hinduism, but which he subsequently denied. He is also a good matey of Dr Zakir Naik who is notorious for whacking Hinduism and its beliefs. 

But still, I have to admit that his allegations of 'Malaysians Muslims being bullied in Malaysia' may be too hard to swallow.

Yes, given the Mahathir's 1-year old government has repetitively u-turned from its commitments to ratify ICERD, the Rome Statute and abolish capital punishment, etc etc etc, I wonder how Dr Asri could have the questionable 'sagacity' to ever-even say that.

Initially (mind, that was years ago, wakakaka) I liked and respected Dr Asri for what I then read of his views-advice as coming from a very balanced and fair mufti. 

Later he surprised and disappointed me with what I reckoned to be a 'hardening' changing attitude towards non-Muslims. I still respected him although I no longer liked him.

Eventually, with his overt hostility towards Hinduism in particular and sometimes Dr Ramasamy, I could no longer like nor respect him.

But that's just me, wakakaka.

Mind, Dr Asri could be imitating former IGP Hanif Omar, who in sometime in September 2018 said Malays were afraid to defend their rights.

He cited as example the recent controversy sparked by Lim Guan Eng over the use of Mandarin in statements by the Ministry of Finance, saying there should have been a stronger reaction.

Hanif Omar accused the DAP of wanting to split Peninsular Malaysia into the East Coast for Malays and the West Coast for Chinesefor this, Hanif Omar's fairy tale, wakakaka, I've renamed him as Hans Christian Andersen, wakakaka

Ibrahim Ali 

That poo-stiring remark made Ibrahim Ali, head of Malay rights group Perkasa, mad. He then told off Hanif Omar, saying Perkasa’s existence as a champion of Malay rights was proof that the former IGP was tokking-kok.

Ibrahim Ali said: “So when I read Hanif’s statement, I began to question myself. Am I a coward? This is why I am disappointed.”

Ibrahim Ali said Malays never questioned the rights of non-Malays because they were raised to respect other communities, saying:

“You don’t see Malays questioning how non-Muslims practise their faith. In fact, when Hindus celebrate Thaipusam, we respect them and even stop by the roadside to see the celebration”.

Not entirely true when we remember Dr Asri, who has a hate-hate relationship with Hindus and their religion.

Oh, one final question: Why have the Muslim preachers most hostile to Hinduism and its beliefs (and even its kavadi-carrying followers and coconut breaking devotees) been mostly Indian Muslims?


(1) An Indian could be cause for Dr Asri's dislike of Indians.


  1. It's geographical karma. Hindus bully Muslims in India. Cintoks tak bagi Muslims puasa in East Turkestan. So only fair that in this small part of the world, karma becomes a bitch like DAP.

    1. Yup, its also the main reason why most Nons don't bother much with what happens with the Palestinians. With a few exceptions.

    2. Zombieic logic of the f*cked kind!

      No wonder u r still insisting on tongkat juice for surviving.

  2. We will never get Jho Low because we refuse to give Zakar Naik to India. That’s karma. Ha ha....

  3. After Christchurch we held a huge solidarity rally of support, after Sri Lanka bombs we had no choice but to hold a small hastily organised solidarity gathering, then after the Jewish synagogue shooting in USA, there was no gathering (too sensitive lah), just quietly issue simple statement condemning incident enough. Buddhists and Hindus better watch out, karma’s coming your way......maybe...hopefully not...

  4. How’s this for bully?

    Fortunately BN was removed in GE14. Karma has been averted.

    The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia made this chilling call to destroy all churches in 2012, yet soon after Jibby had no qualms accepting billions of ringgit in donations from Saudi Arabia to ensure BN remains in power, essentially making us a vassal state. Imagine if BN is still in power will all churches in Malaysia be destroyed too?

    Destroy all churches in Gulf, says Saudi Grand Mufti

    By Elizabeth Broomhall, 15 Mar 2012

    The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia has said it is “necessary to destroy all the churches of the region,” following Kuwait’s moves to ban their construction.

    Speaking to a delegation in Kuwait, Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, stressed that since the tiny Gulf state was a part of the Arabian Peninsula, it was necessary to destroy all of the churches in the country, Arabic media have reported.

    Saudi Arabia’s top cleric made the comment in view of an age-old rule that only Islam can be practiced in the region.

    The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia is the highest official of religious law in the Sunni Muslim kingdom. He is also the head of the Supreme Council of Ulema (Islamic scholars) and of the Standing Committee for Scientific Research and Issuing of Fatwas.

    A Kuwaiti parliamentarian said last month he wanted to ban the construction of churches and non-Islamic places of worship in the Gulf state.

    MP Osama Al-Munawer announced on Twitter he planned to submit a draft law calling for the removal of all churches in the country.

  5. This karma I Love...!

  6. It is unfortunately common for Converts to have the pathological need to denigrate the beliefs that they "left behind".
    So it seems to be the case with Muhammad Zamri Vinoth Kalimuth.

    Its part of the "Born Again" process for some.

    Add to that, for the Zakir Naik group, there is the spillover from the perpetual enmity between Hindus and Muslims in India.
    The Muslim rulers were the often cruel and discriminatory Overlords in India for centuries. The flip side is the Muslim minority were often converts from the lowest rungs of Indian society, and they remain very poor and discriminated against for the most part.

    That is the toxic brew from which Zakir Naik arose.

    I wonder what exactly Zamri, had contributed in building good inter-religious relations Asri had claimed. ?

    Some of the most disrespectful mocking of Taoism and Buddhism have been
    expressed by Chinese Christian converts.
    You don't hear of police reports being made, because most Taoists / Buddhists don't bother if it is only said in Church gatherings and no threats or incitements are made.

    Ah Mok , a convert to the Atheistic creed, has an obsession to disparage Christian and Jewish history. I don't think Ah Mok was ever officially a "Christian" but he no doubt had a heavy dose of Christian scriptures at some point in the past, that he now does his best to denigrate.

    1. much as I hate it I've to agree with you, though on my so-called denigration of Jewish history it's my conscionable protest or shouting out against the biased bible, the work of the House of Judah's creative history, wakakaka

    2. Let's draw a parallel to this f*rt:

      "…conscionable protest or shouting out against the biased xxx…"

      So u have issues with the stories of Bible. I presume u too have issues with the stories of Quran.

      Let just say, u r damned f*cked against the stories of Abrahamic 'good' books of any cults.

      But, using yr own words (noted below), where's the evidences to discredit/disprove/prove those stories?

      Ain't yr favourite phrase to defense jibby's malfeasances of the nth kind IS 'where r the beefs'?

      Innocent before proven guilty, mah!

      Can apply the same principle to yr diatribes against the so-called denigration of Jewish history?

      Otherwise, where is that trumpeted conscionable protest or shouting out against the biased bible, the work of the House of Judah's creative history?

      Or more likely u can pet yrself satisfactory, just so u can drown in yr own egoistical fart!

  7. I am still wondering why followers and guardians/preachers/priests/clerics/converts/Muftis etc of the Abrahamic faiths in particular preach/dakwah/Da'wah their religions by initially using insults/hate speeches of other people's faith/beliefs and to convert those not of their beliefs by hiding behind a facade of saying their religion is all about love/peace/unity/humanistic/saving souls/ascendent to Heaven/paradise etc.

    And for some religious bigots like ISIS/Daesh/Right Wingers/Left Wingers etc, they then go to the next step of kidnapping, assasinations, murders, uprising, riots, genocide and wars against other believers/faith.

    History has proven time and again that Religious Bigots of the Abrahamic Faith had created so many wars since it's fables started in Egypt many centuries ago, adapted, changed, modified along the way and has now become a curse upon mankind besides the other evil curses of Racism, tribal, ideologies, feudalism, autocrats etc which has also existed for centuries and much much older than before the Abrahamic religions.

    Don't you think religions had been created to satisfy the lust of some evil human beings thru their mass of believers to greed for power, positions and wealth and thereby are actually the ones who are perpetuating the very same barbaric/evil/devilish/satanic things they accused others not of their religion/faith/beliefs?

    Why can't the religious bigots just leave everyone be, to belief what they want without resorting to insults/hate/devilish and evil ways to perpetuate their own personal/tribal/racial agendas?

    Where is the peace and unity, religion is supposed to provide mankind?

    1. i dun think many war started by religion.