Wednesday, July 19, 2017

Kopitiam Kok-Tok (4) - PAS' B-cube

MM Online - Public caning not necessarily in public spaces, Kelantan deputy MB says (extracts):

KUALA LUMPUR, July 19 — Kelantan said today the public Shariah caning that it plans to enact does not necessarily have to be in public spaces like stadiums.

Deputy mentri besar Datuk Mohd Amar Nik Abdullah was quoted by Utusan Online saying that the decision on the venue will be left fully to the Shariah courts with no interference from the state government.

“We will not interfere, besides prison, the courts will decide the appropriate open space.

“There is a difference between open space with ‘in public’, this is what people are always confused with,” he reportedly said, but did not elaborate on his assertion.

There seems to be no ending, thus The Never Ending Story, to PAS' B-cube or BBB, which stands for 'Bullshit Baffles Brains'.

PAS has been bullshitting big-time to baffle people's brains, in order to ensure support.

What is the difference between 'open space' and 'in public'.

Maybe PAS thinks its 'open space' is the sea off Kelantan coast or its jungle which its state government has allowed mucho logging, but both of which (sea and jungle) are still spaces 'in public' view ...

... (though I suspect there's lot of bonking in the jungle and to a rare extent, even in the sea, wakakaka.

Perhaps the Deputy MB might be referring to some of its leaders' humongous mansions which might have humongous 'open space' but which is NOT 'in public' as those mansions would be 'private or closed space'.

The Deputy MB also said “We will not interfere, besides prison, the courts will decide the appropriate open space" in which he contradicted himself straightaway.

Hasn't he already 'advised' the courts to select his whatever-cock-talk 'open space' for 'public caning'?

And additionally in his whatever-cock-talk 'open space' for 'public caning', hasn't he also contradicted PAS understanding of its own syariah required 'public caning'?

People are NOT confused as he is about 'spaces' which are 'in public' or available to public access, which may be 'humongously wide open spaces' or very 'small spaces'.

In his kok-tok to BBB, he has made PAS' bullshit even less palatable, less plausible & less presumable.

Maybe he should visit Aceh to find out why the ulama have a change of mind about public caning. Maybe after an earthquake or two, some flooding and a tsunami here and there, those Aceh ulama might have come to realise Compassionate Allah swt might not have been pleased with their humiliating cruelty.

I hope PAS' hubris and their ulama sickening sense of shaming won't re-invite the wrath of Allah swt again in Kelantan and Terengganu, as was advised by none other than Nik Abduh Nik Aziz.

Talking Cock:

(1) Kopitiam Kok-Tok (1)
(2) Kopitiam Kok-Tok (2) - No's & Yes's

(24) Political pasembur 1


  1. Part of the intention of carrying out the punishment in public is to humiliate and shame the person , hopefully acting as a deterrent to others as well.
    If the punishment is to be meted out, it should be in a very public place, no point being shy about it.
    Let the merits of carrying out such punishments be openly debated as well.

    One of the unsavoury aspects of "liberal" Western press court reporting, also become the practice in Malaysia, is the way those brought to and out of the Courtoom to be charged are paraded before the public , in front of rows of cameras, both still and videos and onlookers.

    Long before the actual trial starts, regardless the accused is innocent or guilty, they have already been thoroughly and publicly humiliated.
    People are often badly impacted with the relatives, friends, employers and business clients.

    For a person who is innocent, and takes their honour seriously, the shame can be as painful as any actual caning.

    The original principle is good, and rooted in centuries of British legal tradition, where justice must be done in the open. Whoever is accused in court of a crime will be accused openly, except in exceptional circumstances eg. the accused is a minor or some very sensitive cases.

    Nowadays its more like a circus show.

    1. fully agreed. worst of the lot have been western style "trial by media' where as you pointed out, even the innocent person after the trial would still be looked at with suspicion. Asian saying: once tainted with cow poo the stink remains

  2. 024:002 Pickthal
    The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a PARTY of BELIEVERS (mukminin) WITNESS their punishment.

    where does it mention that the punishment is to be administered in a huge or tiny space or in public?. and what is the number of believing witnesses 2 or 3 or 1,000?

    1. Layman's understanding of PARTY usually means A LOT of people, the more the merrier.