Tuesday, October 04, 2016

Lies, damn lies but alas, true statistics

From the Star Online:

A proposal to limit the prime minister's tenure to two terms can be implemented based on convention and does not necessarily require an amendment to the Federal Constitution, the Opposition claimed.

Amanah deputy president Salahuddin Ayub cited the Britain's practice of a term limit by convention, suggesting that the Opposition could seek a similar avenue for Malaysia if wins the next general election.

He said there were already certain existing conventions that were practised when selecting the prime minister, which were not specifically stated in the Constitution. [...]

Salahuddin Ayub must an ignoramus to cite Britain's practice of 'term limit by convention'. He has sprouted nonsense like Nathaniel Tan but I reckon Salahuddin's incorrectness has been due to ignorance while Nathaniel Tan who is supposed to be an intelligent person had talked rubbish with regards to Guan Eng's term as CM. Those PKR people are so jealous.

Well, Tony Blair had 3 terms, winning his elections in 1997, 2001 and 2004, while Margaret Thatcher had won her terms in 1979, 1983 and 1987. Salahuddin, have you got that?

In Australia which also practised Westminster Parliamentary system like Britain, NZ, India, Malaysia and Singapore, but with each parliament term of only 3 (instead of 5) years, John Howard served 4 terms, in 1996, 1998, 2001 and 2004.

Much earlier than Howard, Bob Hawke also served 4 terms in 1983, 1984. 1987 and 1990. The closeness of two consecutive terms implied a snap election, wakakaka.

His predecessor Malcolm Fraser had 3 terms, winning the elections in 1975. 1977 and 1980.

John Howard's hero, Robert Menzies won his elections in 1949, 51, 54, 55, 58, 61 an 63, a total of 6 terms.

Across the Tasman Sea, New Zealand saw the following successful PMs, each with 3 terms, namely:

  • Helen Clarke in 1999, 2002 and 2005.
  • John Keys in 2008, 2011 and 2014
  • Jim Bolger in 1990, 1993,and 1996.

As for our Indian friends, both Indira Gandhi and her dad, Jawaharlal Nehru had 3 terms each.

Our lil' red-dot neighbour saw Lee Kuan Yew holding the PM's position for 30 years (if we divide that roughly by 5, that's a simple 6 terms but could be more if LKY had called for early elections), while Mahathir held it for 22 years (and still hoping to continue as de facto PM, wakakaka).

Salahuddin Ayub, you ought to be a bit more careful about what you say or you'll be labelled a bullshitter like Nathaniel Tan, wakakaka.

Continuing with the Star Online report:

Salahuddin said a two-term limit for the country's premiership was not a new idea as the United States had amended its constitution to institute the practice following the death of its four-term President, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Yes, the USA has a presidential system where the president is also the nations' CEO and not a constitutional powerless one like the Sing or Indian President or the Australian GG. The USA does NOT practise Westminster parliamentary system like Britain, Australia, NZ, India, Malaysia and Singapore.

Salahuddin Ayub, have you got that?

Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (Pribumi) vice-president Datuk Seri Mukhriz Mahathir, who was also present at the press conference, said the two-term limit would prevent abuses of power.

How about your dad? Are you saying that as PM he abused his powers?

This is so annoying when morons and sinister self-interest goons want to throw the baby (a good parliamentary system the Westminster system) out with the bath water (PM or CM they don't like and can't dislodge).


  1. In the UK, you apparently need to be very nasty or very slippery to be a long-serving Prime Minister

    Margaret Thatcher - longest serving PM 11 years
    Tony Bliar - 2nd longest 10 years.

    Probably is the same case in Malaysia.

  2. 1st term camry, econ class, at least still pretence siding buah pala folk.

    2nd term dah s class, biz class, developer darling, no swimming pool bangaloooo

    3rd term could be bach class, chartered jet, lim property, 3 swimming pool bangaloooo.

    limit to 2 terms seem ngam ngam. i support.

    1. Your observations on the 1st and 2nd term are spot on.
      I just hope your predictions for the 3rd term do not come true.

      There is no doubt that BN, especially UMNO, is today rotten to the core.

      However, that should not blind us from detecting that DAP, for one, is going rancid at a much faster pace than BN ever did.

      Tunku Abdul Rahman led a decent regime for over a decade, and Penang under Lim Chong Eu was most acceptable, until the handover to Ah Koon. Most Chinese supported Mahathir's management of the economy for decades, including the handling of the Asian Economic Crisis.
      It should not be forgotten that Malaysia did not have to suffer IMF servitude, unlike South Korea, Indonesia and Thailand.

    2. 3rd term ... is Anwar Ibrahim's next door neighbour!