He stated that his party has already 'persuaded' nearly 30 BN members of Parliament to reject the leadership of its chairperson AAB. I am so impressed by PKR’s hard work. Not even the ballot box could withstand its reformasi force.
This is what we have been waiting for all these years, where the opposition can outdo the UMNO frog hunting practice and in the process undermine the concept of the ballot box – what a refreshing change ... er ... of ownership.
It's nothing less than a reformasi styled de-mock-ratic practice in action under the de facto maestro.
Azmin also claimed those 30 frogs, though without revealing who they are or from which component party they belong to, all agreed the country lacks a ‘strong and credible’ leadership, and that their ‘concerns’ are for the nation – of course, who would ever dream of accusing those frogs for less than patriotic reasons.
Forget what Samuel Johnson said about patriotism. In Malaysia the negara bit of the tri-mantra (or any of its components' teflonised magic) will always see the claimant through.
He assured us that there was “no money or (other) transaction involved at all in these discussions”. Naaah, of course not. They are patriots after all - aren't they?
Then Azmin treated us to privileged confidential information, that those 30 BN MPs want someone who is strong and credible to lead the country, and have accepted that the leader has to be a Malay Muslim (BTW, that’s the bangsa part), but at the same time, that particular person has to be accepted by the other communities.
Wow!
And yes, Azmin did name him.
Guess which sole candidate in the entire negara fits the bill?
Only one guess, and it’s not Azmin Ali (not yet, anyway).
It is once again the delightful reformasi in superb, supreme and stupendous action. Thank God (that’s the agama part)!
Three cheers for de
“REFORMASI – REFORMASI – REFORMASI”!
And it wouldn’t go amiss if we all shout out together again the tri-mantra of ‘negara, bangsa dan agama’.
Reformasi reformasi reformasi
New negara bangsa dan agama
It's the long awaited revolusi
By Messiah, the 4-face Brahma
A leaf taken out of UMNO's book
For a shortcut to absolute power
Reformasi with a brand new look
Where democracy doesn't matter
I hear Anwar Ibrahim is out of the country. Imagine, you didn't tell us about it. Woooooooooow!
ReplyDeleteAre you incapacitated or what? Hope to shed light on by today.
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ReplyDeleteThe simple truth is that your concern is neither reform nor democracy but whether Anwar will be the PM and that makes you contemplate to commit suicide. I suggest that's easier for you because your heart can't sustain for long. Not that I want you to sniff your life but since there is nothing small or big you can do to thwart Anwar, wouldn't be easier that undergo euthanasia. If I were in your despondent position where again I can do nothing and that no body is helping me to assasinate the man who gives me sleepless nights, I would have chosen the same euthanasia fate. It is easier than perpetual desperation and hopelessness. Or?
ReplyDeletefake melayu
ReplyDeleteDoes your mother work in brothels? Why are you being filthy and raunchy? Are you a hermophrodite or what? Were you raised in an AIDS orphanage or are you a baseborn child scavenging in Chow Kit?
By the way the Govt offers some help to bastard children who ar left by the roadside. Contact the welfare department. Asap!
edited what Melayu wrote as:
ReplyDeleteSATU SOALAN UNTUK HADI AWANG. BILA PULAK ADA NAS YANG MEMBOLEHKAN PARTI ISLAM BOLEH BERCAMPUR DENGAN PARTI ORANG CINA DAN INDIA UNTUK MEMIMPIN NEGARA ISLAM ? SUDAH LUPAKAH BELIAU KEPADA FATWA BELIAU SENDIRI YANG PERNAH MENGHUKUM UMNO KAFIR KERANA BERKAWAN DENGAN PARTI CINA DAP ... DAN INDIA HINDRAF BODOH DAN MISKIN ? APAKAH STATUS MB PERAK SEKARANG YANG ADA 7 EXCO BUKAN ISLAM
KENAPA PAS SEKARANG KETANDUSAN IDEA DAN SANGGUP MAKAN SEMEJA DENGAN KAFIR HARBI SEPERTI DAP LAKNAT
PERUT DAN HATI DAP MEMANG BUSUK SEPERTI BUSUKNYA HATI LIM KIT SIANG DAN ANAKNYA BANDUAN LIM GUAN ENG
ADAKAH PAS SUDAH LUPA KATA KATA PEGUAM ... IAITU KAPAL KARPAL SING BODOH SEMBAH TOKONG BATU SUPAYA LANGKAH MAYAT MEREKA KALAU NAK DIRIKAN NEGARA ISLAM.
ADAKAH PAS SUDAH LUPA ATAU PAS NAK KAN KUASA ATAU PAS NAK KAN WANG YANG BANYAK
I can't allow irrelevant allegations or insults to a physically disadvantaged person being posted here
"The leader has to be a Malay Muslim (BTW, that’s the bangsa part)"
ReplyDeleteI want to ask, pliz note that I'm not a supporter of Anwar, do you think Malays will ever accept a non-Muslim Malay to be the PM? Aren't you are being silly? There can no be a day when a non-Muslim should be the PM of this country. That can't happen. The Armed Forces have express order to prevent that happening till God inherits the earth. They too have the express order that the PM must be a Malay always. There is no shortcut to that. Have less dreams about it. I have nothing to do with Anwar but this is not a position of the PKR that I'm against as well, but a position of Malay Rulers, of all Malays and the entire security apparatus. Look for new reasons on this case. Edit!
;-) silly about what - show me please!
ReplyDeleteAnd stop protesting about not being a supporter of this or that, or not PKR hahahahahahahahaha
"(BTW, that’s the bangsa part)"
ReplyDeleteBTW stands for: By The Way, then you added "that’s the bangsa part, which means Malay. In other words, you disapprove the idea that the PM must be a Malay. Can't happen under the sun.
ha ha ha, I'm not sure how you arrived at your 'interpretation' - could it be due to your guilty conscience? Too defensive lah ;-)
ReplyDeleteI'll be less quick to affirm that Malaysians (and Malays) will never be able to accept a non-Malay PM. But I don't think it'll happen in my lifetime.
ReplyDeleteConsider the United States as an example. It took 200 years before the electorate could even deal with credible Presidential candidates from an ethnic minority and a non masculine gender. Canada, being generally more liberal, still took at least a century before an Asian became Governor-General.
So, it will probably happen in Malaysia, eventually, and we sure can work towards a reality where ethnicity matters much less than common interests.
Having said that, I am forced to agree that Ktemoc here seems to be stuck in his own categories and limitations as well. And that makes his opinions a little less credible than it ought to be.
Are you answering each other or what! There seems to be too suspicious jokes here. Hoi...adoi...
ReplyDeleteAnyway, nothing new here.
Concerning the Malay PM part, you did mention the words of Azmin Ali and try to give emphasis. In other words, the Malay nationalism of Anwar is involved (the way you try to put it). As a non-Malay, I would like to see a non-Malay PM one day, but I'm not stupid as well. That wouldn't happen soon or even ever, unless a miracle happens. It will be a redline that I think no Malay is ready to pass. That's why Tengku Ku Li has written a letter saying Malay political power has decreased after UMNO got a thrashing. It is the last rallying call of Malays. So if PKR insists on that, there is nothing difficult in it.
I didn't get the message here. What is it about? UMNO members crossing over to PKR as Azmin said? UMNO members crossing over to PAS as Hadi Awang said? Or Anwar becoming the PM? Or BN members passing a vote of no confidence in AAB? Or Kaytee's little preoccupation with his infamous and hackneyed mantra of Anwar, Anwar and Anwar? May be I need some more explanation. Dunno!
ReplyDelete"ha ha ha, I'm not sure how you arrived at your 'interpretation' - could it be due to your guilty conscience? Too defensive lah ;-)
ReplyDeleteGuilty conscience? Don't feel it easy that you can transfer it that way. Look, we agree on one thing and disagree on another. Agree that Anwar is unacceptable and that's why I chose here since that's a platform. Disagree with you on the Malay Premiership. I don't need an interpreter on English and there was nothing to be interpreted. I just pasted what you wrote. Don't mix the good and the bad. You are doing a good job.
the trouble with this coffee shop forum ( actually idle gossip) is well, as gossips go ,
ReplyDelete100% reactive and devoid of original news, or thinking. Maybe thats what 98% of today's political blogs are for ...
a huge sounding board with vested interests or flawed opinions maybe
Hi all,
ReplyDeleteI have voted for the opposition and I hope that they all deliver, at least somehow because they have some obstacles like funding from the federal govt and withdrawal of MoUs.
This makes me believe that we need to wait a bit rather than taking over the federal govt, though sometimes I agree with the opinion that it must be taken over because there is nothing BN will do or that it will subdue and undermine the PR govts which is quite true. Therefore, I think there is need for intellectual argument on the merits and demerits on taking over the federal govt.
Questions like:
1 What's wrong if we take over now?
2 What's wrong if we do that since BN is infighting?
3 Which party doesn't capitalize on its enemy's infighting?
4 Why should we take over now? Is there is any pressing need?
5 If BN welcomed Gerekan when it felt weak in the early 70s to strengthen itself, why can't PR welcome the UMNO and BN MPs to strengthen it now?
6 If Tunku was forced to resign and a new govt come as a result, why can't be Badawi forced out and a new govt come in?
7 If we don't capture the state now, when will we?
If we capture now, can we succeed in fulfilling all the promises or we need more time?
8 Since the Sun Tzu Art of War Strategy states that you need to kill your opponent at his weakest moment (NN's weakest moment is now), why not do it now? 9 Why should we kill BN now and why not?
10 Who should take over and why?
11 Since the PM has to be a Muslim (not a written rule but definitely it has to for reasons known to all of us) and the two leading Malays in PR are Hadi Awang and Anwar, who can be the acceptable face to all between the two?
12 If we give BN time, don't you think it will regroup and strike back?
13 Who will regret later if that happens?
14 Or why should we strike BN now since it will die a natural death?
15 Don’t we need to strengthen the 5 states and leave everything else or that’s being naïve?
Unfortunately, all what I see here is base arguments and counterproductive analysis both from the blogger and his visitors. I think there is no honesty and credibility involved at all particularly on the part of the blogger. Therefore, there is no need for anyone of us throwing tantrums or answering since there was nothing substantial that was raised in the 1st place. Peace to all.
Zakaria
I fully agree with Sdr YB Azmin Ali that it is timely and opportune to voluntirarily accept those BN MP's who are longing for change and better and more equitable leadership. Don't forget that Barisan Rakyat should have handsomely won the PRU12 elections if not for the gerrymandering, vote buying, phantom voters, dubious and double dipping postal votes and other BN dirty tactics, in complicity with the assistance of the major institutions like the Elections Commission, Biased Mainstream Media,Police and other government agencies who are supposed to be impartial in elections.
ReplyDeleteSo the sooner we get Barisan Rakyat to come into power to clean up the unlevel electoral playing field,the better for equitable and fair universal suffrage.
Psychological warfare matey...keep the opposite side guessing, keep them off balance,
ReplyDeleteThat's perfectly legitimate, especially given the nature of the opposite side.
Do you think Barisan Najis plays by Marquess of Queensberry rules ?
i am a malay, i do not have issue if our PM is non-Malay, so long s/he is not corrupted, and does not do cronyism, what the heck you talking about, malay pm? for what ? so far how come corruption is bad in our country?
ReplyDeletefitnah! fitnah! ini semua fitnah barisan nasional!
ReplyDeleteanon 1214am,
ReplyDeleteare you sure you are a malay? (read: Muslim?)
if that's a yes, then are you sure you don't have issue over a non-Malay PM? (again, read: non-Muslim PM?)
if that's also a yes, then i can only wish you the best... here and hereafter!
emmm....
ReplyDeletequarrel, argue, critics, complaint, slander, belittle, protest, fight, clash, etc....
wonder if anybody care to read Protocol 10 of the.... you know what... (kaytee, you're still under watchful horus' eyes? ooppsss... EYE! there's only one eye huh?)
here are some excerpts:
"...THE TRIBUNE OF THE TALKERICS HAS, NO LESS EFFECTIVELY THAN THE PRESS, CONDEMNED THE RULERS TO INACTIVITY AND IMPOTENCE, AND THEREBY RENDERED THEM USELESS AND SUPERFLUOUS..."
"...IT IS INDISPENSABLE TO TROUBLE IN ALL COUNTRIES THE PEOPLES' RELATIONS WITH THEIR GOVERNMENTS SO AS TO UTTERLY EXHAUST HUMANITY WITH DISSENSION, HATRED, STRUGGLE, ENVY...."
These protocols were originated hundreds of years ago, some arguments even went back as far as 959 B.C.
Isn't this is exactly what's happening now? So, its either the "elders" who wrote the PROTOCOLS are damn good fortune-tellers, or we are actually following their game now. In the latter case, bear in mind that we are only Pawns, readily dispensable at any time to make way for the King and Queen, or maybe even Bishops...
And may i recap the words of Henry Ford Sr. when his opinion asked about the genuinity of the Protocols:
"The only statement i care to make about the PROTOCOLS is that THEY FIT IN with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. THEY FIT IT NOW."
And that was said in 1921!!!
So guys, what actually are we doing now???
If that's true, I will be very glad. I salute YAB DSAI. Hope he can succedd fast. Last but not least, thank you to PKR for uniting the people to form an opposition alliance.
ReplyDeletekk matey said "Do you think Barisan Najis plays by Marquess of Queensberry rules?"
ReplyDeleteSo ... we descend down to their gutter? ;-)
Ooops, forgot that someone crawled out form there, or at least claims to have crawled out from there ... ooops again ... actually no, I think he might have claimed he wasn't down there in the first place ;-)
Apart from a few exceptions, the common denominator observed here has been detractors attacking me ad hominen rather than my post - I suspect some (the more idelaistic ones) dare not read it ke ke ke.
"To capture the enemy's entire army is better than to destroy it; to take intact a regiment, a company, or a squad is better than to destroy them. For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the supreme of excellence. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence."
ReplyDelete"One need not destroy one's enemy. One need only destroy his willingness to engage."
Sun Tzu -c. 512 BC as translated from Chinese by Lionel Giles (1910)
Azmin and PKR is just following umno's buying over of 30 over ADUNs from Pairin's PBS in 1986
ReplyDeletekk46, nice but inappropriate quote. Sun Tze was talking of military strategy where killings and destruction were nasty outcomes. We OTOH are talking of democratic process as crystallized into the essence of the ballot box. When some one seeks to subvert that democratic process, I find it lamentable that people like you would still continue to support it, purely on party lines. *Sigh*
ReplyDeleteanon of 10:26 am: So ... the great refomasi party, PKR, wants to be just like UMNO? I know PKR had originated from UMNO, but kalau begitu, mana reformasi? Sama sj saperti UMNO, kan?
Go to Anwar direct. Go to his blog and challenge ,debate and fight him with your reasoning/ideas. Better still form a new political party and fight with all your altruistic democratic ideals for a better Malaysia(and World). If u ever happen to get thrown into jail consider that as an occupational hazard. Talking is so very easy. We are all armchair critics , some more articulate and intelligent but nevertheless reluctant to get their hands dirtied. Have fun!
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