Sunday, May 06, 2018

Intra-DAP allegations of Tony Pua propagating fake-news

The late Ahmad Nor was a DAP vice-president and former Bayan Baru MP, probably the first Malay MP from the DAP party.


He was much respected and even revered as a party icon. A road in Jelutong has been named after him. His son Amran Ahmad Nor is a lifetime DAP member and part of its publicity team.


But things have turned sour for Amran when he saw what has been allegedly happening in his own party.


Apparently, according to Amran, the publicity team has been spreading “propaganda” against the government and caretaker prime minister Najib Abdul Razak.

Malaysiakini reported:


At a press conference in Kuala Lumpur today, Amran Ahmad Nor – a lifetime DAP member and part of its publicity team – took aim at DAP’s recent videos and posters.

“These (video and posters) are all planned accusations and malicious propaganda by DAP using the name of Pakatan Harapan.


“These are aimed at government leaders and the (caretaker) prime minister... They talk about him, his wife and many other government leaders.

"To me, this is malicious propaganda carried out so they can win elections.”


He pointed the finger at, guess who, wakakaka, but Mr Chicken Little himself, Tony Pua. But he added that sometimes Lim Guan Eng also gave instructions to the publicity team.


When asked why he was now revealing the alleged scandal, he said he was very aware that he would now be accused of makan-dedak, but he (even as a life-long member) couldn't participate in such a deceitful conspiracy anymore, saying:

“As someone who is part of DAP’s publicity team, I realise we are not distributing truthful information. I do not want to conspire with DAP anymore to lie to Malaysians in order to get votes.” 


He reckoned this would be the best time to expose the dirty dishonest deceitful naughtiness by the DAP publicity team. I suppose that's why observers called such political publicity teams the parties' 'dirty works', wakakaka.

Amran has also made a police report which has been sighted by Malaysiakini. 

So we'll just have to wait and see whether his allegations are true. If so, Tony Pua will be in a whole load of shit. But if the police investigation does not reveal any 'fake news' then we may be seeing a new Chicken Little.


It so happened that yesterday I posted Chicken Little is back which narrated the BN side of the story. BN strategist Eric See-To has heaped scorn on Tony Pua for claiming that Selangor’s free-water policy proved it was possible to abolish the goods and services tax (GST) and not bankrupt the country.


Eric See-To 

See-To said Tony Pua was being “remarkably simplistic and misleading in his claim, He alleged Pua omitted something that would have cast a different shade on the latter's 'rosy' picture about Selangor's free-water policy.

Unfortunately for Tony Pua, he has a BIG loud arrogant mouth and also an ingratitude to his "friend". According to Eric See-To, once when he was financially in deep straits, he borrowed money from See-To who willingly loaned that to TP. But years later when TP became a Yang Berhormat, and See-To seek to dialogue with him, TP told See-To to buzz off because to him, See-To was a "nobody".

Last year See-To related to Malaysiakini his disappointment in Tony Pua (extracts):

According to See-to, he and Pua had known each other for the last 15 years, when they both ran their respective IT companies and did business with each other and worked on joint projects.

“Since he listed his company amidst the dot-com rush in 2001, Tony Pua’s Cybervillage had straight six years of continued losses from 2002 to 2007, until Tony Pua left the company and joined DAP.

“When his company got into some cash-flow issues in 2005 or 2006, before he went into politics, he called me for a loan for (sic) RM100k, and within hours, it was this ‘nobody’ who gave it to him which he then gave me this IOU letter.” [...]

See-to further wrote that despite their political differences, he was one of the first to congratulate Pua when the latter was elected MP in 2008. Later, he also helped out by arranging fund-raising golf tournaments, he added.

“But I guess now he is a high-flying Member of Parliament, he can dismiss me as a nobody and no longer considers me as a friend.

“Times have changed, I guess you need to be at least a deputy minister these days before Tony Pua will layan you,” See-to said, adding he was compelled to reveal the IOU since Pua had fired the first shot. “YB Tony, you truly disappoint me. I guess fame and power has ubah (changed) you now,” he said, playing on DAP’s motto.



important message for Christians 

Some wondered whether Yang Berhormat Tony Pua was/is a Chinese? I reckoned then, Yang Berhormat's ancestors would have cringed in deep embarrassment at their descendant's ingratitude over a personal favour he asked for and obtained.

But leaving aside Eric See-To's allegation of Tony Pua's 'rosy creativity', if after the police investigations on the report by Amran Ahmad Nor, Tony Pua and the DAP were to be charged with propagation of election 'fake news', I wonder how the spiritual soul of the late Ahmad Nor and indeed of the DAP's late spiritual guru, Karpal Singh, will both feel in their other world?

And I wonder too, what effect such a guilty verdict on a 'fake-news' charge will have (in this world) on a politician's status as a newly elected MP or ADUN?


that should put an end to his squawking 

Read also: un-Chinese Tony Pua.


58 comments:

  1. How disappointing, Kaytee.

    Show lah, the so called propaganda and leaflets which are so called Fake news.

    Then, let the audience decide whether it is Fake or not, mah.

    I see only 1 leaflet shown but too small to see what is written. All I saw was IMDB, Rompakan, Arab Chinman Prince, GST and it's all over the world news except in Malaysia.

    So unfortunate all the Trojan Horses embedded in DAP started coming out just before the GE by coincidence? The timing could not be better to show how inept Chicken Little in screening his workers. It's like The Perfumo scandal in Britain MI6 long time ago.

    In a way, it's good that all the Trojan Horses started coming out and cannot wait to collect their tolls before their paymaster start absconding and fleeing after GE14 results.

    Times are bad and everyone wants immediate Fulus before it is all gone.

    Wakakakakakaka

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    1. let's wait for the police investigation before we lay concrete blames

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    2. Ktemoc bullshit.

      When it comes to politically motivated investigations, Malaysia's police think they work for UMNO.

      One of the first acts of a Pakatan Federal Government must be to sack the top 3 layers of the Police, without any pension, for being traitors to the country and the Constitution that they swore an oath to defend.

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    3. when it suits you you'd praise police work (eg. police discovering Altantuyaa was killed and C-4-ed), when it doesn't you talked like a kok

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    4. The PDRM did not discover Altantuya's killing on their initiative. The explosion was reported by members of the public, and the junior level officers who responded treated it as normal case procedure.
      The politicised PDRM leadership would dearly loved to bury the Altantuya case in the bottom of the Indian Ocean , but by that time too many people knew about the case.

      The deletion of Altantuya and cousin's immigration entry records was part of deliberate deniability that the Altantuya ever entered Malaysia. No record of entry means Zero case.
      KAUTIM.
      But luck was not on Najib's side.

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    5. wakakaka, spin spin spin, hope your mahathirised dedak is enough for you

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    6. Facts, not spin, but you can"t handle facts

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    7. wakakakakaka, spin spin spin, hope your jibby-ised dedak is enough for you!

      U forget yr cracked mirror le.

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    8. Just to correct. The plastic explosive used on her was SEMTEX which is commonly used for civil demolition, not C4 as widely miss-reported.

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    9. Whoah! John.....Remember what your Allah or Nik Aziz, lying is a great sin. Punishable by death or your kukuciao would be cut off.

      CK,
      This so called Angmokauxai never had a proper yingerand or western education. Else, cheebye kaytee would have known what happen to Rumpelstillskin in the end.
      At same point, I feel sad for kaytee. Of so much thing hwe has done for Najib, kaytee would be betrayed in the end.....hahahahaha

      Just like Michael Cohen to Donald Trum

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    10. Whoah! John.....Remember what your Allah or Nik Aziz, lying is a great sin. Punishable by death or your kukuciao would be cut off.

      Just like what kaytee is saying, proof please. Documents and credentials.....and the sources

      CK,
      This so called Angmokauxai never had a proper yingerand or western education. Else, cheebye kaytee would have known what happen to Rumpelstillskin in the end.
      At same point, I feel sad for kaytee. Of so much thing hwe has done for Najib, kaytee would be betrayed in the end.....hahahahaha

      Just like Michael Cohen to Donald Trum

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    11. His own mother is worried that her boy is being ostracized by all their relatives. He himself came out to say he doesn't mind being called running dog by his relatives. Eric See-to, Arul Kanda sudah potong, bila your turn ? Ktemoc mungkin sudah ? wakakakakaka.

      De dak side has good company, hihihi...lebih muhibah...soon you good guys will even get to meet the legendary Jho Low...boleh lah sip champagne on Equanimity if DOJ fail to bring it back to the States. Ahhh...that's the life....just go round using lots of klentong words, just roll up the sleeves to write loads of shits...sudah jadi millionaires...Raja Klentong si Botak must be the great inspiration when the country is at crossroad and these scumbag rats got the opportunities of their lives ! 'Thick skin will get you everywhere' should be the motto for these lowest of the low

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    12. @looes74 looes74
      https://www.nst.com.my/news/2015/09/c4-explosives-not-used-altantuya’s-murder

      The problem with uninformed people is, when they talk about plastic explosives, most immediately think about C4 which I blame it on Hollywood movies. Truthfully there's a whole family described as plastic explosives, some only restricted to military use, but most of the time it depends on what's the specific use.

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    13. This is all Eric shitto...he goes around changing facts to his alternative 'facts'. Now C4 bukan C4 so to give impression that it is not military grade and is easily available and obtainable by any ordinary person. And we know there will those blur sotongs with their obstinate agendas lapping up all these alternative 'facts' to bolster their nonsense. It seems one ES Shankar has written a book on the Altantuya murder and perhaps it would help to clear up a lot misinformation that's been deliberately cooked up.

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    14. Why yes, lets refer to passage in ES Shankar's book shall we not?
      [Altantuya’s body was blown up with two types of explosives, Pentaerythritol Tetranitrate or PETN, and Cyclotrimethylene Trinitramine or Research Department Explosives (RDX). Either, when mixed with plastics and plastic binders, form plastic explosives. PETN when mixed with RDX and plastizers and plastic binders forms SEMTEX]

      https://www.scribd.com/book/351393432/Murdered-in-Malaysia-The-Altantuya-Story

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    15. Wakakakaka…… cut&paste AGAIN!

      KT &/or some other explosive experts SHOULD clarify the difference between C4 & Semtex before this moron farts any further!

      "Semtex and C-4 are similar products. They are both plastic explosives which combine one or more explosive chemical compounds with oils and plasticizers. C-4 or composition 4 is one member of a group of explosives known as composition c all of which consist primarily of RDX. C-4 is 91% RDX. Semtex can refer to one of three explosives which combine RDX with another explosive PETN. The three flavors of Semtex range from 4.6% to 41.2% RDX and 40.9% to 76% PETN."

      Both C4 & Semtex contained PETN & RDX BUT in different proportion.

      It's very very difficult to tell which is which once exploded. The difference is lost after a time lapse of approximately 24hrs.

      My Colombian military contacts explain to me upon my enquiry.

      Wakakakaka……

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    16. Kangaroo courts, judges on de dak side, deliberate misinformation, various departments in cahoots with the murderer/s....all conspire to let the real criminals get away scot free.

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    17. Wakakaka! CK continues to fart again!
      If you wanna dispute, take it up with the author ES Shankar who made this revelation in his book I attached and also JJ for recommending it in the 1st place. In military parlance, its called "friendly fire". Hohohoho!

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    18. "My Colombian military contacts explain to me upon my enquiry."

      john hasan unkown....jangan terlalu bodoh sombong la...you are caught out again ! Tak malu ke ? this is not the first time your senseless spin backfired on your face...how long can you stand being proven to be a numb brained showoff strutting lies, useless and illogical 'alternative facts'.

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    19. Caught? How so? That the source you provided has proven CK wrong and now you're trying to shift the blame from yourself? Tak malu ke?

      "Colombian military contacts", sure we believe him, but my US military contacts told me that spectrophotometry tests can still tell the difference between C4 and SEMTEX due to the vast different in material composition. So should we believe in Colombian military or the US military?

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    20. Wakakakaka……

      Reading deficiency or plain 死鸡撑饭盖!

      It's very very difficult to tell which is which once exploded. The difference is lost after a time lapse of approximately 24hrs.

      The spectrophotometry tests can possibly identified it's a plastic explosive. But it CAN'T tell C4 from Semtex after 24 hours due to the fast diminishing of the signature chemical traces which r already minute.

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    21. Wakakaka....
      You call yourself a technical person but have no idea what does spectrophotometry tests do. This test are used to find the material's individual composition and the percentage of its make up. From my contacts in smelting industry, its useful to verify the alloy composition of a particular material and it doesn't require much, just lil bits of it is enough. So this methodology can tell you the ratio of PETN & RDX and hence which explosives is it.

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    22. Wakakakaka… REALLY know nothing! That includes the gang if what u quoted is what he said.

      Spectrophotometry tests work accurately ONLY when the specimen under test is 'fresh' - ie newly prepared &/or has not gone through long time lapse exposure after activation.

      Plastic explosive is the most difficult to determine its composition after a long time lapse after activation.

      C4 is identified in Altantuya’s case mainly via the discovered remains of the unique ingnitor - a very special electronic device that causes the designed pattern of explosion.

      W/o the ignitor C4 is very stable to handle than Semtex. Thus making it a favour for special military applications.

      Quick, go another round of cut&paste from wheresover sources u dig. Just be sure u read & understand before u fart AGAIN.

      People watching r laughing their heads off for yr empty-headed & vapid comments while I slowly luring u into that tin-kosong-tapi-bising-banyak trap.

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    23. Hahaha! More lying thru your teeth again CK!
      Difficult to determine its composition? Not for the forensic investigators as mentioned by ES Shankar "Obviously, the residue from a C4 explosion will contain only its primary constituents i.e. PETN and RDX, which is exactly what was discovered by the government forensic investigators."

      The plastic explosive was identified by its material composition, NOT by any so-called ignitor as you alleged. You better fire your Colombian military advisors as they're doing a great job at making you look foolish.

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    24. Moron's reading proficiency on displayed!

      1) The spectrophotometry tests can possibly identified it's a plastic explosive. But it CAN'T tell C4 from Semtex after 24 hours due to the fast diminishing of the signature chemical traces which r already minute.

      Wakakakaka 1

      2) ES Shankar "Obviously, the residue from a C4 explosion will contain only its primary constituents i.e. PETN and RDX, which is exactly what was discovered by the government forensic investigators"

      Wakakakaka 2

      3) here's the technical part in explosive forensic investigation.

      When the detected traces indicate a presence of plastics explosive, the ONLY way to tell one from the other (since both contained the same chemical components) is the remains of the accessories used in activate the explosive.

      C4 required a very unique kind of igniter to cause the explosion. One can be 100% sure that the plastic explosive is C4 if the remains of the C4 igniter r found.

      Wakakakaka 3

      Eat yr heart out!

      U won't be able to crawl out from the baggy trap I have set up for u!

      Wakakakakaka…………

      BTW, didn't hy so kindly to request u to read more & carefully, to improve yr comprehension? He was kind.

      But many readers out there in the kt blogosphere r shaking their heads laughing about yr continuously bodoh-sombongly arguments.

      Proving in total of yr know nothing!

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  2. Datuk (For spewing lies on behalf of BN) Eric See-To is the 2018 version of the Chinese Han-Kan during the Japanese occupation.

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    1. Monsterball the dedak-monster-eater

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    2. Ktemoc's dedakised brain actually thinks Eric See-To is a truth sayer... hohohoho..

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    3. so says a dedak-eater of Mahathir

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    4. Wakakaka ........ uncle you are becoming more and more pathetic lah. All you can do now is counter call others by name, repeating "allegations" and hoping they will stick. You said LKS now defend mamak, where? What exactly did he say to absorb mamak past misdeed? None, none! Please lah, we are not born yesterday man!

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    5. DATUK eric seeto ? Ohhh...that's breaking news ! Cepat nya sudah promote from obscurity ! Waaaa...so syiok nya...all it needs is to be running dog with a flair for twisting facts...twist, twist, spin spin spin...Eric shitto ah...many looking up to you la...just on one hand, I could count Ktemoc, Arul aka Assrul, Sebastian Loh, Ahmad Nor's son what's-his-name,...all look you up la...very likely they too hope to be a Latuk. Bila nak jadi Tan Sli ?

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    6. Datuk Ngeh Koo Ham and Datuk Teng Chang Khim

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  3. Amran Ahmad Nor is the bitter, disappointed son of a bitter, disappointed Ahmad Nor.

    But it is the nature of Malay activism inside DAP, at the mercy of its overwhelming Chinese majority.

    He should not resort to peddling lies to avenge his disappointment.

    The timing of his "revelations" three days before GE14 itself make it highly likely these is pure political assassination, probably paid.

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    1. no one can't tolerate the new regime in the DAP, the Hallelujah Hordes

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    2. Most of the early dap melayu were classified into 2 types.

      1) the opportunists riding on the back of the dap's desperation to show its melayu members.

      2) the mole

      There WERE never the 3rd type like some of the current dap melayu, participating out of the shared idealogical conviction!

      Ahmad Nor is type 1. If he was not in dap, he would be a nobody.

      Ask lah, what had he done for dap while been given a top party position bcoz of his skin colour?

      He was just like that blue-blooded Aziz but less vocal bcoz he knew his capability!

      His son is the type 2 model. He is not given ANY significant position within the party despite being a 'life-long' member tells a lot!

      Enuff said.

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    3. When BN dissidents speaks out, they're considered as patriots and heroes.
      When PH dissidents speaks out, they're considered as traitors and paid moles.

      Level headed folks can clearly see why Pakatan's pull is no longer as strong before this.

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    4. Vote for Hadi Awang, John will definitely get very very old 72 virgin afterlife

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    5. Vote PH, gets 72 virgin choir boys.
      Vote PAS, gets 72 prostitutes.
      Vote BN, gets 72 MILFs.

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  4. y tis amran suddenly realise dap "dirty" work only now like u did? whats wrong with u both in the last 20 years? play dumb or yet to receive yr dedak?

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    1. alas, the Hallelujah Hordes took over the DAP

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    2. He has received hidayah from Allah.

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    3. Hahaha ...... more likely something more useful for life on earth......... wakakaka

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    4. Yeah... more likeky BN will get back its two-thirds in this GE14. Aamiin.

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    5. After 20 years of loyal service thru 2 generations and yet still kena bypassed for some unknown sweetie, surely he was pissed of. DAP has a habit of shafting their loyal and long-serving veterans bar LKS.

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    6. DAP leaders at the top levels are practically the same for quite a number of years and Ktemoc never once complained " the Hallelujah Hordes took over the DAP". Mmm...once de dak side took over, mula lah all sorts of accusations...what next ? communism have also took over DAP ? wakakakakaka. Dumno hordes have took over you la !...I have already warned that as the D-Day approaches nearer, this thick-skinned turncoat will lose all sense of reasonableness and will foam nonstop with his toxicity raised to the max. And as expected, his new choir boy hasan aka john aka unkown will trail immediately behind hohohoho, like Father Xmas.

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    7. I think more likely he received RM RM RM from Above....

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    8. While those above were almost unchanged until recently, the bottom younger generation has shifted a lot. And now these young'uns are front stabbing and bringing down these veterans with ease. They never thought that their own allies and followers would Brutus'ed them. Heil Hallelujah Horde!

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  5. 50 hours left for campaigning and if I were Najib I would be VERY worried at low low turnouts for BN ceramahs and the increasing need for lucky draws, free food, cash handouts and whatnot. Have the plane and crew on standby please.

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    1. Still waters run deep.

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    2. Most people already Muak with BN

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    3. Oh John.....still hoping to get your 72 old virgins even Nik Aziz has condemned you to hell. Sad!

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    4. Very true...still waters run deep...ada buaya dalam still waters...and will snap up to pull in the unsuspecting victims. Tau pun the depth these power-crazed politicians willing to sink down to to get what they want.

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    5. Yup, it sounds like Perdana Satu is ready to carry Hipo and Pink Lips off to a swift escape.

      But don't be too sure....somewhere over the Indian Ocean , the pilot may turn around and tell him, I'm a Malaysian Military officer , and my command has ordered me to turn back to KLIA - and make sure you are on-board.

      Saya Ikut Perentah...

      Wakakakaka...

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    6. Worst (better) still - the flight might follow mh370!

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    8. Buaya normally stays in shallow murky waters. Biggest buaya is LKS species. Cry croc tears but eats you whole in a heartbeat!

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    9. Wanna talk about buaya ? Siapa boleh challenge DUmno buayas la...60 years of stabbing backs with their little twisty knife the kris would have confer them this title of King of Buayas, wakakkaka.

      Siapa tak tau that these DUmno malays has only this buaya politics going for them....all their skills, brains, tongue and mouth are honed towards this type of politicking...stab and back stabbed, betray and be betrayed, sweet words and dazzling smiles in front and sabo di belakang, and when these buayas made it to the top and are fully ensconced comfortably for decades on their decaying thrones, all sorts of shits are fair game to maintain and perpetuate their rule....so wanna talk about siapa lebih buaya ? hehehhehe

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    10. "
      Siapa tak tau that these DUmno malays has only this buaya politics going for them....all their skills, brains, tongue and mouth are honed towards this type of politicking...stab and back stabbed, betray and be betrayed, sweet words and dazzling smiles in front and sabo di belakang, and when these buayas made it to the top and are fully ensconced comfortably for decades on their decaying thrones, all sorts of shits are fair game to maintain and perpetuate their rule"

      Why does it sound so much like the LKS species buaya? Amongst the veteran leaders, only LKS remained on top and suspiciously only him wasn't back stabbed. No wonder he can smile and spout sweet words while ensconced on the DAP throne. As for perpetuating their rule..... hehehehehe. Need I say more?

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