Sandiwara of politics? |
You know, when I read in Malaysiakini that Nasha [has been] booted from PAS' syura council and the ensuing rejoicing among many Pakatan people, notably from PKR and DAP, I sighed and shook my head lamentably because they obviously didn't notice what has been involved - namely, that Nasharudin Mat Isa has ONLY been removed from the party's Majlis Syura ... and not booted out from the party itself.
Perhaps their rejoicing has been premature. I'll give my take shortly after we recall why he has been removed from PAS Majlis Syura.
Malaysiakini reported (extracts):
Nasahrudin & Najib in Mecca |
Nasharudin was once a leading figure in PAS until news reports claimed that he was trying to convince party leaders to forge closer ties with arch-rivals Umno due to religious reasons, instead of secularist DAP and PKR.
On several occasions, Nasharudin had attempted to drive a wedge between PAS and its Pakatan Rakyat allies, such as by claiming that DAP had prayed for the formation of a Christian state after the Sarawak state election in 2011.
Irking party members further was Nasharudin's apparent cosy ties with Umno. He had accompanied Prime Minister and Umno president Najib Abdul Razak abroad a few times, most recently to Gaza.
(left to right) Palestinian PM Haniyeh, Najib, Nasharudin |
Look, I opine if it had not been Nasharudin it could and would have been Hasan Ali, Zulkifli Nor, or a host of other PAS blokes who prefer to be pally buddy with their political foe, UMNO, rather than their mainly non-Malay political ally DAP (or PKR, but definitely the former), so there's no point in blasting Nasharudin because that would not help understand where he has been coming from.
To understand the mentality of Nasharudin and people of his ilk, it may be helpful if we pull up the UMNO Ketuanan Melayu mantra of raja, bangsa, agama dan negara.
Note that I have place negara last as it's my personal belief very few of the UMNO or PAS worry about it, unless they can argue that negara refers to an only UMNO-Malay country.
Okay, maybe if pressed, they would probably rationalize that once the first three, namely, raja, bangsa dan agama have been duly defended and upheld, negara would automatically be taken care of.
We could argue over this all day until Shahrizat's missing cows do the impossible and come home, and still won't agree. Anyway, I opine the so-called Ketuanan Melayu struggle is all about power and its control, and of course the associated and most important privileges and benefits that come along with it. Only in the most exceptional circumstances would UMNO's Ketuanan Melayu be really about bangsa.
Examining raja, bangsa dan agama, this mantra can be further reduced or crystallized into just one word, either bangsa or agama because for a Malay-Muslim, these two factors are indivisible.
What about raja then? In my opinion, raja and the sanctity of the institution would be an intrinsic component of Malay culture and Malay psyche, and again cannot be separated from bangsa.
Thus UMNO can yell bangsa or if it likes, agama, though currently the latter has assumed far greater importance than the former because (a) it demonstrates to the Heartland that UMNO is (still) the intrepid defender of Islam, (b) it allows UMNO priests to issue fatwas to its political advantage, and (c) it drives a lovely wedge between PAS and DAP, or even PAS and Anwar because the latter's stand on the Allah word has deeply riled many PAS people.
Incidentally, on this I must compliment Anwar for assuming a firm Pakatan approach than his usual tap dancing self.
* in case some of you may question why I compliment Anwar on this when I have been consistently against the Christian Church using the Allah word. And that's because they are separate issues.
My stand against the Church has been based on my belief (or suspicion) that the Church's arguments has been obdurately implausible and thus indefensible (and I provided all my reasons for my stand), whereas my compliment for Anwar on the same issue has been about his firm stand on an already agreed Pakatan policy even though I personally disagree with that policy.
I suspect PAS' volte-face has been due to one of two reasons, or even both - it fears that as an Islamic party it's losing grounds as well as its Islamic credentials to UMNO on the Allah word controversy or it has been a coup d’état by its party's Majlis Syura (many of its members other than perhaps Pak Haji Nik Aziz have been uncomfortable working with a secular DAP), or both.
Even PAS party president Mat Sabu has no choice but to toe the Majlis Syura line, whence he did a belakang pusing on the use of the Allah word by the Church, a 180-degrees departure from his earlier stand which indicates an ominous portent of things to come if Malaysia is ever ruled by PAS.
I had warned in my post PAS - from Progressive to Pythonic that once Malaysia has been established as an Islamic State, we can forget about Westminster democracy, where any of its pseudo-democracy and associated institutions under Islamic rule will automatically come under the control of a supreme, non-questionable, non-challengeable (a la the fatwas of the Kedah MB), and totally dictatorial religious Majlis ...
... and as mentioned by RPK in his post Friday prayers are NOT compulsory, said the Mufti, the process in an Islamic environment is not democratic and not questionable even by logic, reason, precedent or rules.
But the Malay nationalists in PAS (and that's who some of them really are), much as they believe in bangsa, can only scream agama because politically it has only the religious warrant, unlike UMNO which can switch flexibly (or unscrupulously) from bangsa to raja to agama to negara and even to 1Malaysia as its clarion call of the day without any qualms or embarrassment, wakakaka.
Yes, more than a few PAS members possess a similar belief in UMNO's Ketuanan Melayu because the ethnocentric Devil is still ensconced in our political-social-cultural DNA.
To remove or defeat it, we will require (a) sterling leadership and example like those exhibited by Brother Haris Ibrahim and I believe too, Zaid Ibrahim, and of course DAP leaders, (b) social re-engineering to purge and cleanse our attitude from the corruption of BTN type ideology promoted during the Mahathirism era, (c) education a la 'Saya Anak Malaysia', (d) official enforcement a la Aussie-Kiwi political administration where public institutions, NGOs and the press would pounce promptly on racism, bigotry and ethnic-prejudice and make mincemeat of people like Pauline Hanson and Ibrahim Ali, and (e) time.
I use the example of Australia's Pauline Hanson and Malaysia's Ibrahim Ali to show two very different types of prejudice, where I opine that of the former is real deep-seated bias due to ignorance (and perhaps incurable), while the latter is opportunistic due to sly intelligence, wakakaka.
Indeed, the ethnocentric Devil in PAS is more lamentable than that exhibited by Ibrahim Ali who is just opportunistically bersandiwara-ing.
As I wrote in my 2010 post Malaysian meaning of 'gratitude':
... we know Ibrahim Ali is a political survivor par excellence, a cheen chnea ch'am* carma† chameleon, and thus we know that his personal interests [is] khusus untuk numero uno, ... [...]
* cheen chnea ch'am is Chinese for bloody pitiful or terrible, wakakaka
† for 'cari makan', an abbreviation coined by A Samad Said
If Pakatan becomes the ruling party one day, Ibrahim Ali will be there beside the new Pakatan PM singing a new song titled ‘Reformasi is for me’; if PAS assumes power, Ibrahim Ali will replace the Kulim Wonder as the No 1 Islamic warrior of Malaysia, and in the unlikely event of DAP becoming the ruling party, Ibrahim Ali of course will be in astronaut costume, helmet and all, to show he’s an ardent rocket jock wakakaka.
Alas, I wish Nasharudin was just carma, but the probability is high he is not, but belongs to the group of PAS who believe in Malay unity with corrupt people rather than clean ones, for the reason that the former are Malays while the latter, clean as they may be in politics, governance and public accountability, aren't 'clean' in an ethno-religious sense and therefore not worthy to be allies of PAS.
Nasharudin Mat Isa has considerable strong support in his party, and I suspect that his removal from the party's Majlis Syura is only a temporary measure, at least until GE-13, to neutralise the embarrassing revelation of his overtly anti-Pakatan conduct and his obvious proclivity for Malay Unity and alliance with UMNO to keep Muslims out of power. I forecast he'll be 're-nominated' back into PAS Majlis Syura after GE-13.
His wish may yet be realized, for I recall that Harun Taib rather arrogantly warned DAP in May 2012 that the Malaysian legal system will have Hudud if PAS wins more seats than allies in violation of its agreement with other Pakatan allies. So there's a lot more than just sandiwara-ing in PAS - and it's called treachery.
With much hubris, Harun Taib had declared to NST that the implementation of hudud was 'inevitable', saying “If we have enough majority, if PAS is stronger than our allies, we will implement… even if not with the current partners we have in Pakatan… may be there will be other pacts that will lend us their support”.
Okay, it's known that PAS aspired to embrace hudud, but has that been a Pakatan agreement?
Far more worrying had been Harun Taib’s insinuation that PAS would renege on any Pakatan pre-election agreement (as seen in its betrayal of Pakatan's agreed PM-anoint) and implement hudud regardless, once it believes it has the upper hand, and where necessary, will do so in a pact other than Pakatan ..... meaning???
Meaning, to me, that would be the python that will drop down from the ceiling fan - see my post PAS - from Progressive to Pythonic to understand my concerns with PAS'shifty shifting stand.
Thus UMNO and (some in) PAS share the mantra of raja, bangsa dan agama, though for PAS, it would only voice agama but which would be synonymous with bangsa (and raja).
And that brings us to Harussani, the priest who I suspect, unlike other priests who claim to have a direct line to the Almighty, could also SMS or be SMS-ed by the One above.
I'm sure you still remember that disgraceful SMS case which ended up in a cowardshifty shifting the blame on to a woman, which nevertheless saw him subsequently receive the award of a Tan Sri.
He has just issued a fatwa that Muslims allowing non-Muslims to use the Allah word would be considered infidels - see Malaysiakini's Muslims become infidels if they let others use 'Allah'.
Now, would a priest issuing a ruling or decree that the Friday congregational prayers are NOT compulsory make him an infidel? See RPK's post Friday prayers are NOT compulsory, said the Mufti.
Would a priest blaming someone for his lying mistake make him an infidel? See my post Perak Mufti pointed at Raja Sherina.
Shortly after that SMS wildfire fabrication, SIS programme manager Norhayati Kaprawi said: “This is not the first time the mufti has made careless statements and allegations.”
She cited a number of previous statements made by the mufti, including in February [2006?] where he claimed that between 100,000 and 250,000 Muslims had renounced Islam.
She added: “To date, he has not been able to substantiate these claims, except to merely state that these were obtained from ‘reliable sources’.”
Yes, more than a few PAS members possess a similar belief in UMNO's Ketuanan Melayu because the ethnocentric Devil is still ensconced in our political-social-cultural DNA.
To remove or defeat it, we will require (a) sterling leadership and example like those exhibited by Brother Haris Ibrahim and I believe too, Zaid Ibrahim, and of course DAP leaders, (b) social re-engineering to purge and cleanse our attitude from the corruption of BTN type ideology promoted during the Mahathirism era, (c) education a la 'Saya Anak Malaysia', (d) official enforcement a la Aussie-Kiwi political administration where public institutions, NGOs and the press would pounce promptly on racism, bigotry and ethnic-prejudice and make mincemeat of people like Pauline Hanson and Ibrahim Ali, and (e) time.
I use the example of Australia's Pauline Hanson and Malaysia's Ibrahim Ali to show two very different types of prejudice, where I opine that of the former is real deep-seated bias due to ignorance (and perhaps incurable), while the latter is opportunistic due to sly intelligence, wakakaka.
Indeed, the ethnocentric Devil in PAS is more lamentable than that exhibited by Ibrahim Ali who is just opportunistically bersandiwara-ing.
As I wrote in my 2010 post Malaysian meaning of 'gratitude':
... we know Ibrahim Ali is a political survivor par excellence, a cheen chnea ch'am* carma† chameleon, and thus we know that his personal interests [is] khusus untuk numero uno, ... [...]
* cheen chnea ch'am is Chinese for bloody pitiful or terrible, wakakaka
† for 'cari makan', an abbreviation coined by A Samad Said
If Pakatan becomes the ruling party one day, Ibrahim Ali will be there beside the new Pakatan PM singing a new song titled ‘Reformasi is for me’; if PAS assumes power, Ibrahim Ali will replace the Kulim Wonder as the No 1 Islamic warrior of Malaysia, and in the unlikely event of DAP becoming the ruling party, Ibrahim Ali of course will be in astronaut costume, helmet and all, to show he’s an ardent rocket jock wakakaka.
Alas, I wish Nasharudin was just carma, but the probability is high he is not, but belongs to the group of PAS who believe in Malay unity with corrupt people rather than clean ones, for the reason that the former are Malays while the latter, clean as they may be in politics, governance and public accountability, aren't 'clean' in an ethno-religious sense and therefore not worthy to be allies of PAS.
Nasharudin Mat Isa has considerable strong support in his party, and I suspect that his removal from the party's Majlis Syura is only a temporary measure, at least until GE-13, to neutralise the embarrassing revelation of his overtly anti-Pakatan conduct and his obvious proclivity for Malay Unity and alliance with UMNO to keep Muslims out of power. I forecast he'll be 're-nominated' back into PAS Majlis Syura after GE-13.
His wish may yet be realized, for I recall that Harun Taib rather arrogantly warned DAP in May 2012 that the Malaysian legal system will have Hudud if PAS wins more seats than allies in violation of its agreement with other Pakatan allies. So there's a lot more than just sandiwara-ing in PAS - and it's called treachery.
With much hubris, Harun Taib had declared to NST that the implementation of hudud was 'inevitable', saying “If we have enough majority, if PAS is stronger than our allies, we will implement… even if not with the current partners we have in Pakatan… may be there will be other pacts that will lend us their support”.
Okay, it's known that PAS aspired to embrace hudud, but has that been a Pakatan agreement?
Far more worrying had been Harun Taib’s insinuation that PAS would renege on any Pakatan pre-election agreement (as seen in its betrayal of Pakatan's agreed PM-anoint) and implement hudud regardless, once it believes it has the upper hand, and where necessary, will do so in a pact other than Pakatan ..... meaning???
Meaning, to me, that would be the python that will drop down from the ceiling fan - see my post PAS - from Progressive to Pythonic to understand my concerns with PAS'
Thus UMNO and (some in) PAS share the mantra of raja, bangsa dan agama, though for PAS, it would only voice agama but which would be synonymous with bangsa (and raja).
And that brings us to Harussani, the priest who I suspect, unlike other priests who claim to have a direct line to the Almighty, could also SMS or be SMS-ed by the One above.
I'm sure you still remember that disgraceful SMS case which ended up in a coward
He has just issued a fatwa that Muslims allowing non-Muslims to use the Allah word would be considered infidels - see Malaysiakini's Muslims become infidels if they let others use 'Allah'.
Now, would a priest issuing a ruling or decree that the Friday congregational prayers are NOT compulsory make him an infidel? See RPK's post Friday prayers are NOT compulsory, said the Mufti.
Would a priest blaming someone for his lying mistake make him an infidel? See my post Perak Mufti pointed at Raja Sherina.
Raja Sherina |
Shortly after that SMS wildfire fabrication, SIS programme manager Norhayati Kaprawi said: “This is not the first time the mufti has made careless statements and allegations.”
She cited a number of previous statements made by the mufti, including in February [2006?] where he claimed that between 100,000 and 250,000 Muslims had renounced Islam.
She added: “To date, he has not been able to substantiate these claims, except to merely state that these were obtained from ‘reliable sources’.”
I once wrote of him: Incidentally, HTF did he became a Tan Sri when he was the man responsible for nearly causing religious-racial violence through a seditious SMS in 2006 ...
... and worse, when the sh*t hit the fan he blamed the whole seditious crime on a woman. F* pathetic!
Sherina, believe me, it's for Islam that you take the fall for me |
Anyway, in that irresponsible seditious scandal of the wildfire SMS, FT Gerakan asked for the priest's sacking.
Guess who came to his rescue? UMNO?
No, it was PAS.
In PAS: Gerakan
biadap I discussed PAS’ anger at the FT Gerakan’s
resolution calling for HRH Sultan of Perak to sack Harussani Zakaria as the
State Mufti for inciting religious agitation and hatred, with potential dire
consequences.
PAS told Gerakan to stay clear of Islamic areas, the sole
prerogative of Muslims.
I raised the query as to the total absence of any
move by Muslim political groups*, both in government or PAS, to call the
seditious Mufti to account. The Mufti is a well-known for his extreme right wing
views but his latest folly had been very dangerous to public security. He is a
threat to society with his recklessness and irresponsibility.
* NGO Sisters in Islam was the brave exception
* NGO Sisters in Islam was the brave exception
And disgustingly, he didn’t even have the backbone of his religious conviction because when it was a case of accountability's push becoming a shove, he blamed a woman to avoid answering for his own responsibility for the lie.
But the FT Gerakan has now back off from the resolution, claiming it
was only a personal view of Gerakan FT chairperson Dr Tan Kee Kwong. The
Star has also clarified that it carried an erroneous report. Obviously
the Barisan Nasional has kicked into play Ops Retreat as Islamic issues
could well be damaging to UMNO’s battle for the Malay heartland in the coming
general election.
But PAS sensing it has a political winner intends to
draw out the issue for as long as possible and for every sweet drop of political
propaganda, calling
for the FT Gerakan and Dr Tan to retract the resolution and issue an open
apology.
So it's hardly surprising that PAS FT acting youth chief
Kamaruzaman Mohamad said the party would still press for Tan to retract his
remark despite the clarification by the Star.
He stated:
“Whether or not the call came from a resolution or Tan is now irrelevant.
The remark should not have been made. He has no entitlement to that
remark.”
He also made a police report.
Now, this is where PAS
showed its double standard, Kamaruzaman, with great irony that he obviously
didn’t realise, remarked:
“This is a
sensitive issue among Muslims that can stir discord among various
groups.”
"... stir discord among various groups
..."?
Yes, but what about that Mufti who nearly caused a racial riot
with his irresponsible rumour-mongering?
Why shouldn’t he be sacked for
seditious agitation? And why hasn't PAS initiate the demand for that to preserve
the whole matter within the Muslim community?
In the end, PAS is no
better than UMNO, exploiting religion for its own grubby political benefit
instead of seeing to the justice that Allah (swt) intends for the Muslims to
practice.
If I am kind, I would just say that PAS’ stand is a case of not
seeing the wood for the trees. But if I want to be nasty, I would declare it as
not unlike the moral in my poem Magic of the 100th name of
God, where God is incidental, but Man’s interest reigns
supreme.
That's the democratic (or lack of) credentials of PAS where it blindly supported a man just because he's a Muslim but who has been a seditious trouble maker and who was a coward as well for shifty shifting blame on to a woman.
blind support, wakakaka |
Such blind support for an unworthy bloke can only spell trouble for a Malaysia we hope will be a democratic one. Ironically, it's not unlike the blind support of Zionists and the Christian Right for an oppressive neo-Nazi Israeli government.
And that's the so-called democracy we'll likely get from a PAS-led government, without even taking its hudud legal system into consideration yet.
And hasn't it been divine-decreed padan muka for PAS when in mid November 2012 the SMS Priest had the thick hide to pontificate about the what should be done or not done by Muslims (did he exempt himself?) and then accused Pak Haji Nik Aziz of being slanderous for branding UMNO as apostate?
No no, stay out of Muslim affairs, I don't care if he has been seditious or has blamed a woman for his irresponsible reckless remarks |
And on this note of divine-decreed padan muka, I say Amin to the sandiwara of the pythonic PAS in removing Nasharudin from its Majlis Syura ...
... in the same way as I did to its wet dreams of 'electing' Hadi Awang to be Pakatan's PM-anoint and its treacherous intention to implement Hudud after it uses Chinese support to win its way into federal rule.
Go on, eat the apple, it'll be good for democracy, & I 'promise' I won't bite you, wakakaka |
Someone who had seen studies on the detailed data told me, with some clever boundary delineation, the number of Chinese-majority Parliamentary seats could be cut by 50%.
ReplyDeleteAt that point, DAP would have been effectively castrated, unless it can do an extreme makeover to attract Malay support.
UMNO is just waiting to regain its 2/3 majority , then it will proceed to set itself up - no more repeat of 2008 "forever".
they have already done it - why do you think Putrajaya has only 6008 voters to send 1 MP to parliament while Kapar has 112,000 voters represented by 1 MP, a ratio of 1 to approx 20, which translates into the equivalent of 20 UMNO MPs to 1 Pakatan MP.
DeleteThe above is not the only one - in rural areas which favour UMNO, a federal constituency has 16 to 17,000 voters while an urban place like Pandan (previously Ampang) has more than 80,000, a ration of 1 to 5.
I once read a Malaysian Chronicle article which asserted a ratio in favour of UMNO of 1 to 6.
For gerrymandering in Penang state, see my 2007 post http://ktemoc.blogspot.com.au/2007/05/penang-umnos-2-for-me-1-for-you.html
Not surprising laa....that's to be expected of UMNO, anything less blatantly bullying is just not in character, wa ka ka ka.
ReplyDeleteDid not Haris Ibrahim 'given notice' that should UMNO still rule after this GE, he will be migrating ? If even to a malay muslim that this country will be unbearable to live in, what more to the non muslims ?
Anyway, this latest post by KT has very clearly spelt out what we have always felt PAS to be, so very well put !
Plan B anyone ?
I have had no interaction at all with PAS senior leaders, but as of PAS grass roots members, plenty.
ReplyDeleteThey are, for the most part, solid, Allah-fearing individuals.
I may not agree with some of their religious attitudes, but they are the sort of ethical , courageous people I would welcome at my side in the dark and dangerous alleys that is Malaysian politics.
That is from my personal experience, not just prejudices gleaned from news reports in the Star.
I have no problems in accepting PAS leaders like Mat Sabu and Nizar Jamaluddin, nor I the company and friendship of PAS blokes (and sweeties, wakakaka), but the ultra religious Ulamas would be another kettle of fish altigether, especially if they come into power and imposed Islamic rule where Wstminister democracy and its transparent and accountable 'due process' fly out of the window. The Majlis becomes all powerful and unchallengeable
Deleteunlike bn n dap, dissent voice are allowed in pkr n pas, until and unless some go past the sensible level. pkr are multiracial and pas are democratic, not in name only.
ReplyDeletewakakaka, PKR and PAS need people like you
ReplyDeletewhat a siamese twins n typical bn apologist.
ReplyDeletewhen i rebut a stupid statement from a dap lawyer "The girl can hardly speak a word of Malay or English," all helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap, while u can only wakaka.
;-) I wakakaka because of the ludicrousness of your accusations, wakakaka
ReplyDeletehey HY matey read this one http://ktemoc.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/leopard-never-changes-its-spots.html WAKAKAKA
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, KT you started it with the inappropriate remarks at 9:26 am, January 29, 2013, instead of engaging in meaningful discussion.
DeleteHelen calls everyone who disagrees with her as a DAP lackey.
inappropriate remarks to a far more inappropriate comment which put BN and DAP together in opposition to PKR and PAS. PKR supporters are known to be jealous of and thus dislike DAP, wakakaka
Deleteand kt calls everyone who disagrees with him a pkr supporter. u shd know by now how bn/umno apologist work under the guise of aku dap n aku cina.
Deletenot everyone lah, but you definitely wakakaka, just like you call everyone who criticised PKR or PAS a BN/UMNO apologist wakakaka again
DeleteYour "helen can do is to call me a penyokong dap" remarks have triggered a long posting at Helen's blog. Looks like she is revisiting a past quarrel, and adding to an ongoing one with lowyat forummers.
DeleteAiyoyo....DAP produced, directed and acted out a big Sandiwara over its CEC elections, so PAS had keep up with its own stage show....
ReplyDeleteSama sama lah....
transparent unlike PAS
Delete"I use the example of Australia's Pauline Hanson and Malaysia's Ibrahim Ali to show two very different types of prejudice, where I opine that of the former is real deep-seated bias due to ignorance (and perhaps incurable), while the latter is opportunistic due to sly intelligence, wakakaka."
ReplyDeleteI think this comment reveals you know little about Pauline Hanson, she is both opportunistic and has sly intelligence. She and Ibrahim Ali are cut from the same cloth.
she has deep seated dislike of non Caucasian - it's true that subsequently she over-enjoyed the trappings and privileges that came with her rise to political prominence (thanks goodness it was short lived)
DeleteKtemoc
ReplyDeleteYour articles are interesting, different, profound but with an irreverent slant. However its too long to hold my interest. I think I am not an exception. May I humbly suggest if you need to impart all the info, split the up into 2 articles.
"Your articles are interesting, different, profound but with an irreverent slant."
DeleteBut it is the irreverent slant that kept me going back for more Ktemoc laa.
Surely you can't fail but notice that most stuffy bores and pretentious pompous blokes invariably take themselves too seriously....and as a result become insufferable in the extreme.
So I implore dear KT to please continue wakakaka-ing.
Two things I wish to highlight. Hairussani stand is not unique. The much revered harun din pas deputy mirshidul am( second to Nik Aziz) has also declared that those Muslims who support the use of Allah in bm bible is close to syirik (being infidel).
ReplyDeleteTo be led by haris is dangerous. He is a hypocrite who protects fraudster. He censors contrarian views and intolerant of dissent. He practice rules favoring cronies. Yet he proclaims to fight for free media. Now he protects people who impersonate his readers and not cooperating to reveal who they are. He is utterly hypocritical. Got this recorded at my blog hakbersuara.
Haris..? Haris yang mana ni ? Please be more precise laa
DeleteEllese, I'm not questioning the religious relevance of Harussani's fatwa, but rather his cakap ta'serupa bikin hypocrisy and thus his right to issue religious-based moralizing when he has demonstrated a consistent inability to meet his own Islamic standards.
Deletekt, borrow ur space, hope u dun mind.
ReplyDeletePenyokong DAP tegar akan bermati-matian mengatakan bahawa orang Cina semua sudah cukup syarat dalam pertuturan bahasa kebangsaan,”will have no problem to buy nasi kandar” (sini) dan “how many chinese malaysian girls age above 18 you meet that ‘hardly can speak a word of Malay or English’? i don’t.” (sini).
so u think i am a penyokong dap or penyokong pkr?
HY, no clue on context for your statement. so can't comment ;-)
Deleteis fine kt, i copypaste for the consumption of your sweetie her own writing, i am curious who is she referring as penyokong dap in her reply to reader.
Deletebtw, i make it very clear i am partisan and i pro pr, ellese know. i am okay if some dickhead label me this n that, but not writer like u n helen, bec u people r not dickhead, yet :)
Strange that Helen has now made HuaYong the subject of her latest and quite lengthy posting, over some minor disagreements. She should see what Shuzeng wrote of her, in 2 - 3 blog postings recently.
DeleteHY, gasp, I'm not yet a dickhead? ;-)
Deleteno not yet, but a staunch pro-DAP n pro-Guan Eng plus BN apologist wakaka.
Deletewakakaka too
Delete"Lat China, Japan, Korea. these 3 are civilization states. Why is that ? Bthey do not accept immigrants. you don’t hear about them seeking immigrants, and if you do hear about them looking at attracting foreign talent, it is usually for a non permanent basis. They expect you to leave once you have fulfilled your work in those 3 countries. They don’t expect, and they have no intention of naturalizing foreigners, and even when there are foreigners who are naturalized, they are miniscule and the wait takes generations. "
ReplyDeletethe aboce r the absurd write up that relate immigrants to civilisation state from one confused mind who think others cant argue rationally not knowing many of his 'opinion' is like a child rant that not worth even a spit, and hmmm talking about spit, this loser have to continue referring to a site that call others as nuts and mad woman that had mastered forked tougue to support his drivel, very funny la this clown.
Japan is an interesting case. Its citizenship laws are so restrictive it is impossible for a non-ethnic Japanese to become a citizen, regardless if you were born there and/or lived there for decades.
DeleteIt has ruled out any review of these laws, even as it has the world's fastest aging population, with a severe shortage of young adults and children - who are vital to rejuvenating its economy in the long run.
They insist on remainding "racially pure" even as their population - and economy - steadily declines.
Soon in the future...may be 50-70 years down the road...Japan will be one of the first countries to re populate their 'racially pure' citizens with laboratory-produced babies, not unlike in factories, all according to the needs of the nation.
DeleteOne must know whose shoes to shine at this time.
ReplyDeleteyou're right - there was an old man who used to come here to shine my shoes, begging me to let him be my blog protector. Alas, I heard he passed away.
DeleteMiss the old man...wakakakaka
ReplyDeleteIn the end I feel sorry for his soul, having heard he died a pitiful lonely death (in his own shit)
DeleteWhere did this image come from? Could I use this image?
ReplyDeletefrom google image and not mine to give permission - I used them here strictly for non-commercial purpose (amateur blogging)
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