Saturday, June 14, 2025

Two Israeli F-35 Stealth Fighters Shot Down Over Iran, Female Pilot Captured: How Credible Are the Reports?


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Two Israeli F-35 Stealth Fighters Shot Down Over Iran, Female Pilot Captured: How Credible Are the Reports?

Middle East , Aircraft and Anti-Aircraft


A spokesman of the Iranian Armed Forces has confirmed the shooting down of two Israeli F-35 fifth generation fighter aircraft during clashes on June 13, with state media subsequently reporting the capture of one female pilot who landed on Iranian soil after ejecting. Although the veracity of these claims remains in question, an assessment of the circumstances of the F-35’s operations, and the capabilities of Iranian air defences, provides context which is invaluable to evaluating the likelihood that such shootdowns were achieved. The F-35 is the only modern fighter currently in the Israeli Air Force’s fleet, with none of the service’s F-15s or F-16s having been produced at or modernised to a ‘4+ generation’ standard, while all continue to rely on mechanically scanned array radars considered effectively obsolete for high intensity engagements. Confirmation that Israeli attacks on Iranian targets used not only air-launched missiles, which can be fired from F-15s and F-16s far beyond Iranian airspace with little risk to the aircraft, but also gravity bombs which these older fighters would struggle to brave Iranian airspace to drop, makes it highly likely that Israeli F-35s flew deep into Iranian airspace to attack their targets. Such operations are unprecedented, with prior Israeli attacks on Iran having consistently been launched from far outside the country’s airspace. 

F-35 Drops GBU-12 Guided Bomb
F-35 Drops GBU-12 Guided Bomb


Although the F-35 retains advanced stealth capabilities, and Iranian air defences have shown signs of considerable limitations in the past, the sheer scale of Iran’s arsenal of air defence assets, the sophisticated capabilities of many of its systems, and the size of its fighter fleet, make it highly possible that F-35s were shot down. With the Israeli Air Force fielding an estimated 40 F-35s, while Iranian forces had considerable foreknowledge of which targets were most likely to be struck by bombing raids, in particular its hardened nuclear facilities. Iran’s Russian-supplied Rezonans-NE long range radar system procured in 2019 is particularly well optimised to alerting air defences to the approaches of low radar cross section targets such as the F-35 over long distances, potentially allowing fighters to be scrambled and ground-based systems to focus their sensors towards the area of the incoming aircraft. Although Iranian fighters rely on radars and weaponry long since considered obsolete, the fact that stealth-configured F-35s have very little capacity to carry air-to-air armaments alongside their gravity bombs could have left them vulnerable to interception. 

Rezonans-NE Radar System
Rezonans-NE Radar System


Although Iranian official sources have made multiple highly questionable claims in the past regarding the country’s military successes, and more broadly the successes of the country’s defence sector, the claim that an Israel pilot was captured, and her likely use in future public relations footage, indicates that air defences may have indeed been successful in engaging the threats. Iranian air defence systems have achieved notable and surprising successes in the past, including against stealth aircraft, with the commandeering of a CIA RQ-170 stealth drone in 2011, and the shootdown of an RQ-4 Global Hawk surveillance drones in 2019, being the most notable examples. Both were much scarcer and higher value aircraft than the F-35. Nevertheless, the loss of just two F-35s during an operation deep into heavily defended airspace involving only a relatively small number of stealth fighters would far from reflect poorly on the capabilities of the American aircraft, with losses more than an order of magnitude greater expended if Israeli F-15s and F-16s had attempted the same mission. Although the F-35 retains tremendous superiority over the Iranian fleet, a combination of cost overruns preventing Israel from affording larger numbers, and production delays which have prevented orders already placed from being met, mean major Israeli F-35 operations will continue to be strained by the limited numbers of fighters available.

27 comments:

  1. Show the video of the downed plane / captured pilot ler.

    Else it's just Bull Dung

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  2. Some military old timer giving cautionary words...yeah, maybe it is good to consider it.

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    https://t.me/geopolitics_live/51560

    🇮🇷🇮🇱 Scott Ritter: There’s a Good Chance Israel’s Hitting Iranian Decoys

    Hunting mobile missiles is extremely difficult work.

    During Desert Storm, I was debriefing pilots from the 1/160 Special Operations Aviation Regiment (the “Nightstalkers”) about their claimed kill of an Iraqi SCUD missile.

    I pointed out if what they shot up with their onboard machine guns had been an actual SCUD, they be dead because the secondary explosion from the fuel would have consumed their helicopter.

    It turned out what they attacked was a realistic decoy deployed by the Iraqis to divert attention away from where their missiles were really operating.

    In the end we didn’t kill a single Iraqi SCUD.

    Just decoys.

    Keep this in mind when reading about Israeli successes.

    It’s not always what it seems.

    Latest on Iran-Israel war – updates 24/7 | Chat | Follow @geopolitics_live 👍

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    1. You're pretty desperate if you fall back on the Scott Ritter dude for military analysis.
      The guy is basically discredited except with the hard core of America haters who cling on to any antiAmerican "analysts".like a leech.

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    2. Mfer, do prove Scott Ritter wrong in spreading disinformation.

      Otherwise, u r just fart about inconsequential as usual.

      Delete
  3. By the way, chief...no mention or posting about bibi's plane hightailing to Greece prior to any hitting IL, and after IR being struck first? Or a false info?

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  4. Notable.

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    https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1933815082569322849?s=19

    🚨🇺🇸BREAKING: MASSIVE EXPLOSION ON LAS VEGAS STRIP

    A huge blast took place outside the Aria Resort and Casino, followed by smoke filling the night sky.

    Palm trees caught fire as emergency crews rushed in.

    A car was seen fleeing the area, though its connection to the explosion remains unclear.

    No injuries reported yet; hotels and buildings remain undamaged.

    Source: The Mirror

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  5. Wind is blowing suggesting the crown prince of Iran may be coming back to take back his throne...

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  6. Message to the Redcoat that it is over for them?

    https://www.youtube.com/live/VeYhfMoLjLA?si=MAGgtMC5tq5Yufcv

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    1. This is probably the correct one...lots of rumours related to instabilities elsewhere in the country being planned while the army is busy with this parade.

      On Trump's birthday?

      https://www.youtube.com/live/1b3K1tZeGog?si=JL5PASjajW6Nf-lC

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    2. https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1934039827659247690?s=19

      🇨🇳⚔️🇺🇸Chinese vs. US parade....

      https://youtube.com/shorts/Q1WOGzQQ5HQ?si=c4J1ABa75zWw1ks4

      Rusdia celebrates 80th anniversary of Victory Day with grand parade.

      https://x.com/themaxaram/status/1934081000260420083?s=19

      One of these armies has fought—and won—real wars. The other one just wins parade march competitions.

      Delete
    3. Seems to be that message, it is over redcoats.
      Worth a listen. Now it is not United States of America, a foreign occupied corporation since 1871.

      DC, Capitol, white house, etc all were occupied territory. Senate, House of Representation, IRS, etc...

      Going to interesting coming weeks and monghs,even NYC UN complex probably will get kicked out...

      Understand not straight forward but let's see what will happen.

      ~~~

      https://x.com/BrandoIncognito/status/1934622039454691469?s=19

      (48 HOUR RULE)
      PARADE OPTICS
      UPDATE

      LISTEN TO THIS MANS TAKE ON WHAT WE SAW:

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  7. Long Live the Pahlavi Dynasty.

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    1. Oooop… showing yr mfering blueblood adoration!

      Delete
  8. Some interesting questionscoming out of the latest zionist state/Iran war.

    1) why the zionist state has to utilized their F35 to bomb the Iranian targets. Don't they have long range ballistic missiles, as what the Iranian did in retaliations?

    2) why F35, a airspace territorial fighter, used in carrying overloads bombs & thus has to fly low & refilled along the way to hit its Iranian targets?

    3) why no zionist state's famous autonomous drones had been used in attacking Iran?

    4) why satanyahu has to run to Greece, while its militarymen were doing am the heavy lifting works & suffered the consequences of the Iranian counterattacks?

    The FACTS r interesting & glaring in the eyes of those who know!

    Zionist state has put up a last gamble to try running down Iran while its military HW r running very low due to multiple battkefields. & the Yank couldn't supply more bcoz of the existential threats in the FarEast.

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  9. Hope this is not true because this is what Ishmael do to female Ishmael prisoners in Iranian jails, imagine what they would do to a female Isaac prisoner, yet there are people who sapot this rejim yang sungguh kejam.

    https://iranwire.com/en/news/117116-ex-official-virgin-prisoners-were-raped-to-prevent-them-going-to-paradise/

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    1. in ISRAEL, Israeli wardens rape male Palestinian prisoners - aiyoh, the depravity of that

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    2. This is depravity https://x.com/NotFarLeftAtAll/status/1841559985060192761?lang=en

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  10. https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1933601710611530237?s=19

    OUR FRIGGIN TAX DOLLARS ARE FIGHTING EACH OTHER

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  11. Btw, those too lazy to do their research or think a little bit more, will resort to asking grok to verify, as those ai is know all be all...

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    https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1934024334630330596?s=19

    BREAKING:

    🇮🇱🇺🇲 US rejected Netanyahu’s request to join the war directly - Axios

    https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1934046002354282861?s=19

    🇮🇱🇺🇸 ISRAEL URGES U.S. TO STRIKE IRANIAN NUCLEAR SITE

    Turns out Israel can’t take out Iran’s Fordow nuclear facility without help - it's buried deep, and they don’t have the bunker-busters to reach it.

    So now they’re asking the U.S. to join the fight, hoping Washington will do the heavy lifting.

    1 Israeli official claims Trump hinted he might help; the White House denies it.

    For Israel, leaving Fordow intact means the mission isn’t finished.

    Source: Axios

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    1. Fordow suffers from the same vulnerability that all bunkers have, no matter how deep they are buried.

      They all depend on connections to the surface to bring in people, materials, utilities, air and water, and the other way, to bring out people, finished materials, utilities.and waste.

      The connections can be collapsed , even without the most powerful bunker busters....perhaps not permanently, but suffice to severely damage the operations.

      That is what the allies did to WW II Nazi underground factories,.some buried 3 even 4 km deep inside mountains.

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    2. 狡兔三窟!

      But definitely not for a know-nothing military bluff.

      Delete
  12. https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/1933607813370024038?s=19

    BREAKING

    🚨⚡️ President Vladimir Putin rejects Netanyahu's request to mediate with Iran to stop the war!

    Israel tried to avoid the Iranian response through Moscow, but Russia took a firm stance and refused to mediate.

    ...

    https://x.com/India_Observer0/status/1933614080603918498?s=19

    #BREAKING

    🚨⚡️ President Vladimir Putin rejects #Netanyahu's request to mediate with #Iran to stop the war!

    #Israel tried to avoid the Iranian response through Moscow, but #Russia took a firm stance and refused to mediate.

    ...

    https://x.com/BRICSinfo/status/1933578694510960900?s=19

    JUST IN: 🇷🇺 Russian President Putin offers to mediate peace talks between Israel and Iran to prevent further escalation.

    ...

    https://x.com/Af_Journalist/status/1933944948723720379?s=19

    Putin told Trump in a phone call that Russia condemns Israel’s military actions against Iran and is ready to mediate between Tehran and Tel Aviv.
    #Iran #Israel #Russia #Putin #Trump #MiddleEast

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  13. Angin.

    https://x.com/ExxAlerts/status/1934072679394357567?s=19

    BREAKING: 🚨 Iranian leadership has purportedly FLED Iran.

    DEVELOPING.

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  14. Suspect it is probably the High Frequency Global Communication System...

    https://x.com/realjoshuareid/status/1933974324937109718?s=19

    🚨 U.S. Air Force broadcasted a massive 246-character Emergency Action Message (EAM) via the HFGCS system.

    These encrypted signals are used to transmit global nuclear or strategic orders to military units.

    Something serious could be in motion. Not coincidentally post 4414 from June 4th 2020 has significant relevance especially with the Marines deploying to California.

    3:46.15 June 25
    ...
    https://x.com/realjoshuareid/status/1933972979014094945?s=19

    We can only speculate that this was a test. If more EAMs occur over the next day then we can expect this is something more.

    ...

    https://x.com/Worldsource24/status/1933926257114161286?s=19

    🚨BREAKING: U.S. Air Force's HFGCS broadcasted a massive 246-character Emergency Action Message (EAM) today.

    EAMs are coded messages used to transmit critical orders, often related to nuclear or strategic operations, to military units worldwide via high-frequency radio.

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  15. More speculation in the comment.

    https://x.com/KAGdrogo/status/1934093672150344100?s=19

    Wonder if covert special operations took place …

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  16. Internal intelligence head reportedly resigned.

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    https://t.me/professor_patriot_official/37589

    And there it is.

    Israel may whoop Iran, but they are going to end up alone with all the baggage.

    https://t.me/bricsnews/7099?single

    JUST IN: 🇮🇱🇺🇸 Israel formally requests the United States to join its fight against Iran.

    @BRICSNews

    https://t.me/bricsnews/7108

    JUST IN: 🇮🇱 Head of Israel's Shin Bet intelligence agency resigns.

    @BRICSNews

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  17. There r in with pictures of the downed zionist F35 ben shown in the DarkWeb for a price.

    I couldn't download those pic!

    All other WWW sites have the real pic & videos been removed.

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