Friday, November 24, 2017

JAIS jangan tidur

MM Online - Organiser of Muslim-only Christology event apologises, will drop ‘ex-nun’ label (extracts):


The organiser of a two-day Muslim-only event on "Christology" today apologised and said it will remove the “former nun” label used to describe its invited Indonesian Muslim speaker Irena Handono.

Organiser Nur Fitrah said it had received criticism on using the phrase “former nun” by Christians in Indonesia, asserting that this was despite Irena's representative confirming that she was allegedly formerly a nun and chalking this down to a difference in understanding of the label.

Irena was part of the controversial seminar on “Kalimah Allah dan Kristologi Nusantra” in May 2014 that was held at Universiti Teknologi MARA's (UiTM) Shah Alam campus, which drew criticism and attracted police reports over the event's alleged “Christian-bashing.”

Following the 2014 seminar at UiTM, the Bishops Conference of Indonesia was reported by the now-defunct portal The Malaysian Insider as saying Irena was not a former Catholic nun as alleged as she was only briefly with the Congregation of the Ursuline Sisters as a novice and “never completed” her education.

“After that we don’t know where she ended up getting ‘educated’, to the point now where she is speaking at seminars mostly belittling Christianity, especially the Catholic church,” Bishops Conference of Indonesia executive secretary Father Edy Purwanto was quoted saying then.


 Will JAIS arrest her as did JAWI to Turkish author and journalist Mustafa Akyol for allegedly making religious sermons without obtaining credentials from JAIS?

Can a supposedly former Imam hold the equivalent, say, in a two-day Christian-only event on "Muhammad-ology"?

I bet Malaysian Muslims will arise in anger to burn down the said speaker and proposed event.

Why are we even tolerating such a Muslim-only event, one which bashes Christianity?

Can you f**kers leave that job to kaytee, wakakaka?

Didn't I say that the aim of the Rukunegara has been to create harmony and unity among the various races in Malaysia, but of all the 5 rukun it has, it would seem that Rukun No 1, namely,'Belief in god' has been the least helpful to the aim of the national principles?






For more, read my earlier post F-off deputy minister, I'm an atheist.


7 comments:

  1. Proselytizing by Christians towards Muslims, using Bahasa Indonesia and local dialects, generates a great deal of anger among Muslims in Indonesia. It has occasionally led to outbreaks of violence.

    Indonesia was founded without any official religion, and peaceful propagation across religions is still legal. So is conversion of Muslims out of Islam.

    However provinces such as Aceh have banned it , and Java and Sumatra have enacted legal restrictions.

    Malaya/ Malaysia was right to ban such activity among Muslims right from the start, otherwise it would be a threat to peace.

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    1. you are right that Christianity is a proselytising religion, but so is Islam - both are from the Abrahamic religions. Only Judaism is not that proselytising, partly because the Judeans were racists first and Judaists second, wakakaka.

      And you're right too that the danger for Muslims from evangelistic Christianity is ever present, but likewise vice versa

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  2. "Can a supposedly former Imam hold the equivalent, say, in a two-day Christian-only event on "Muhammad-ology"?

    God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent. Ingress is unrestrained and without cost. Sometimes, you are just so amusing, especially, when you behave like the serpent who had deceived Eve by his craftiness, until her mind was led astray from the simplicity of devotion to God.

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  3. Freedom of religion has 3 main pillars.
    1. Freedom to practice religion
    2. Freedom not to practice religion
    3. Freedom to propagate religion

    There are no absolutes, of course, and all must be done in peace without coercion.
    It appears Ktemoc dislikes (3)
    I have reservations about (2) especially in conservative societies like Malaysia. (3) is fine with me - Its a free market out there.

    Proselytization by any religion is free and legal in Singapore, including Christianity among Muslims, and it hasn't caused any social or security problems.

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    1. Non-Muslims are NOT allowed to propagate their non-Islamic religions to Muslims

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    2. It seems that bolihland is the ONLY country that has legislated that into law!

      Could it be the local ummat have weak affinity to Islam?

      Then, the next question that follows IS why.

      Too much mumbo-jumbo been 'ordained' into the original doctrines, so much so that most local ummat r EASILY been confused - the favorite word of the zombies when ranting about suspected proselytizing gimmicks!

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  4. msia uphold communist value, communist ban tis n tat, msia oso ban tis n tat, i hope god is not like communist.

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