If former prime minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad was so good at uniting the opposition, he wouldn’t need to meet jailed PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim, said PKR president Wan Azizah Wan Ismail.
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Wan Azizah was responding to a question on whether Mahathir had taken over the role of de facto leader as he was more visible in trying to unite the opposition even though she was the official opposition leader.
Wan Azizah noted that holding the opposition together was tough but credit should be given to Anwar.
“I think it is not easy because we were already seen to be fragmented. Give him (Anwar) some credit for holding the fort for some time,” she said.
Yesterday, Mahathir met Anwar while the latter was briefly out of jail for a case at the Kuala Lumpur High Court.
It was the second meeting since September last year when Dr M, who had Anwar jailed the first time in 1999, sought to bury the hatchet.
Anwar was credited with uniting the opposition in the 2008 general election and denying BN a two-thirds majority for the first time in history.
However, Pakatan Rakyat disintegrated after Anwar was jailed a second time in February 2015 for sodomy, a charge he claimed was politically motivated.
Wan Azizah is correct. Mahathir has never been a pleasant person. That's because he feels he needn't have to be pleasant. In fact he is downright arrogant, full of acerbic sarcasm and quite pompous.
So probably his idea of getting everyone together was by parade-sergeant type of orders, wakakaka.
He was handed the PM's post by Hussein Onn, only because Ku Li foolishly opted to stay on as Finance Minister to 'tidy up' a few projects. Thus Mahathir didn't do much to charm and seduce UMNO leaders to support his ambition.
His historical rise in UMNO and to the PM-ship didn't require much on him to "speak softly and sweetly" to people, unlike Anwar Ibrahim, wakakaka.
He was handed the PM's post by Hussein Onn, only because Ku Li foolishly opted to stay on as Finance Minister to 'tidy up' a few projects. Thus Mahathir didn't do much to charm and seduce UMNO leaders to support his ambition.
His historical rise in UMNO and to the PM-ship didn't require much on him to "speak softly and sweetly" to people, unlike Anwar Ibrahim, wakakaka.
As a former PM for 22 years plus having an imagination that he was still the "mover & rocker" of Malaysian politics after that (until Najib podah-ed him first), he wasn't exactly a humble person.
Didn't he claim he picked two lousy "successors"? Which retired PM had TWO 'successors", except someone who believed he was forever in power.
Didn't he claim he picked two lousy "successors"? Which retired PM had TWO 'successors", except someone who believed he was forever in power.
Surrounded by vipers today, people like Nephew, wakakaka, he behaves like The Emperor in his New Clothes.
Wikipedia tells us:
"The Emperor's New Clothes" is a short tale written by Danish author Hans Christian Andersen, about two weavers who promise an emperor a new suit of clothes that they say is invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent.
When the Emperor parades before his subjects in his new clothes, no one dares to say that they don't see any suit of clothes on him for fear that they will be seen as "unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent".
Finally, a child cries out, "But he isn't wearing anything at all!"
And today, playing the role of that child is Dr Wan Azizah.
Wakakaka. Well done lah Dr Wan, what sweet revenge for his humiliation of your hubby.
And an interesting article from Din Merican's old post:
Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad and Tawfik Ismail Encounter at G25 Meeting
by Anisah Shukry
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com
Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad and Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin met the G25 Group of moderates and tried to seek help in their fight against Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, group member Tawfik Ismail has revealed.
The son of Malaysia’s Second Deputy Prime Minister Tun Dr Ismail Abdul Rahman said the G25, however, took a non-partisan position and would not get involved in such a matter.
Tawfik said former Deputy Prime Minister Muhyiddin had summoned G25 for a meeting in September and told them of his unhappiness with Najib’s leadership and how he had come to be in his current position.
“And then he asked us how we could help. We said, well, first of all, we don’t think we are inclined to take sides in politics. We’re non-partisan. And we told him we felt that he and Dr Mahathir were not the right people to fight Najib."
"He was a bit taken aback, asked me to explain. So I said, you know, for every dart that you throw at Najib, Najib throws two darts back,” said Tawfik, adding that the constant barbs between both sides would just confuse the public.
He said Muhyiddin was told that the ills should be taken up by the young, who were going to inherit the country, and mentioned as examples UMNO Youth Chief Khairy Jamaluddin, PKR Youth Chief Nik Nazmi Nik Ahmad and DAP leader Liew Chin Tong.
“These are the young up-and-coming leaders who have a bigger stake in what happens in the future than Dr Mahathir, Muhyiddin and Najib,” said Tawfik.
G25 also told Muhyiddin that by taking sides, they would not be able to perform their role of bringing moderation back to Malaysia, as they would be alienating certain segments of society.
“That’s what we told Muhyiddin. We need to have contacts with all our grassroots and we cannot do it if we are partisan."
"It’s best for us to bring the current players back to the centre. Because if you can’t get rid of them, you might as well change them,” Tawfik said of the group’s conversation with Muhyiddin, who was dropped as deputy prime minister in a cabinet reshuffle in late July, after openly questioning Najib over alleged financial scandals in his brainchild 1Malaysia Development Bhd (1MDB) and the RM2.6 billion deposited into his bank accounts.
The Malaysian Insider interviewed Tawfik in conjunction with the release of Drifting into Politics, a collection of writings by Dr Ismail himself and of which Tawfik is a co-editor with academic Ooi Kee Beng. It was also the 100th birth anniversary of Dr Ismail on November 4.
The G25 began as a group of 25 retired civil servants who late last year penned an open letter to the government appealing for a return to moderation and for rational dialogue on the position and application of Islam in laws and national policy.
The group has since grown in number and comments on issues involving race and religion while advocating moderation. Dr Mahathir, during the meeting with the G25 to discuss Islam and the constitution earlier this year, had tried to steer the topic to 1MDB and began attacking the government, said Tawfik.
“So I told him we’re here about Islam, not talk about politics. But he kept on insisting. Then I told him, if you get rid of Najib, who are you going to replace him with? And what makes you think he would be any better?
“He said, ‘well, you know, the person who succeeds him will be guided by a council of elders’,” said Tawfik.
[kaytee's note: with Maddy himself as Chairman, wakakaka]
However, Tawfik said he could not accept such an argument, as it would be undemocratic to have an unelected council of elders dictating the Prime Minister.
He said Dr Mahathir had also criticised Najib over the money that the Prime Minister allegedly lost.
“So I countered back, from the time you were prime minister to the time you retired, if I took all of your losses and counted it to present day values, I’m sure it will be more than what was lost in 1MDB.
And then everybody around the table was stunned because they didn’t expect that confrontation,” said Tawfik, adding that the meeting ended with their argument.
The former UMNO lawmaker admitted that he did not hold Dr Mahathir in high regard and blamed the former Prime Minister and his policies for the current state Malaysia was in.
He said Dr Mahathir had undone the work of Dr Ismail and Malaysia’s founding fathers in his desire to cling to power.
Racial issues only started when Dr Mahathir became increasingly concerned about “Malay rights” and began using the other races as a scapegoat to unite the Malays, said Tawfik.
Malaysia’s increasing “Islamisation” could also be traced back to Dr Mahathir’s attempts to counter the influence of PAS, he added.
Ultimately, Dr Mahathir’s successors were only striking out on the path that he had carved himself, said Tawfik.
“Najib may be the son of (Tun) Abdul Razak, but, politically, he is the son of (Dr) Mahathir.”
Amin.
did mahathir claim he is good at uniting the opposition or he is the de facto leader? yr fav zaid say so, n lks seem to agree, most dap leaders keep silence imply some might agree.
ReplyDeletejust curious y the party with principle all diam diam, n have to count on wan azizah from the party without principled to point out the obvious, again very extraordinary kind of principle.
did the sons and daughter of karpal singh said so?
Delete"sons and daughter of karpal singh is most dap leaders?
DeleteFor obvious reasons the Emperor does not desire to remove himself from a position of power which he is not willing to share. It is clear that he would only continue any coalition in which his power is not challenged.
ReplyDeleteWhom did that "PPBM" guy in DAP's mask said is the de facto leader of the opposition? BTW who will be the leader of the undemocratic and unelected Council of Elders responsible for electing/guiding the PM? The Chairman of Malaysian United Indigenous Party?
Indeed, the present tangled situation of the Pakatoons offers Mahathirism a great opportunity. And the Chinese, with their heads buried in the clouds of wishful thinking, believe him for just one reason - to bring Ah Jib Gor/UMNO/PAS/Hadi down. Wakakaka...
But the Chinese carpetbaggers would be disillusioned because once the buffoon and the clown and the dissolute debonair come home to roost, they are worse than the plaque.
That Empress who podah-ed the Emperor is quite right though. Wakakaka...
antara bapak penswastaan & bapak transformer, who has done more damage? forget about ringgit & sen cos this can be replenished if not recovered. but in the case of sovereignty when lost, will be lost forever.
ReplyDeleteapa sudah jadi pada tanah ktm di tanjong pagar & landasan keretapi. situasi ni telah jadi duri dalam daging kepada temasek, it was pain the their ass. alharhum tunku serah pulau itu terbelah dua, tapi anak razak taroh simen konkrit.
kenapa ahjibgor tonggek? simple; in june 2009 late lee kuan yew buat perjumpaan empat mata dengan nyonya mansor - apa benda penting yg telah dibincang & dipersetujui? bukan makan kueh nyonya & minum kopi saja kot? (did he ever meet siti hasmah or bini2 pak lah in that fasyion?), and almost a year later i.e. on 24 may 2010 tanah ktm sudah jadi bahan sejarah.
you may want to ask your uncle whether or not he agree to the 'surrender' of the land which resulted in the loss of our sovereignty forever.
ahjibgor kaki tonggek.
C'mon lah, Malaysia lost sovereignty over KTM land which was in Singapore Island itself?
DeleteDeliberately hanging on to the land uselessly just to frustrate Sing was sheer bloody mindedness, an attitudinal speciality of Mahathir.
'Deliberately hanging on to the land uselessly just to frustrate Sing was sheer bloody mindedness, an attitudinal speciality of Mahathir.'
DeleteThis mindset is deep rooted in Melayu umum for whatsoever reason they wanted to labelled.
So don't just blame Maddy lah!
'sheer bloody mindedness, an attitudinal speciality of Mahathir'.
Deletecan i also apply this to previous prime ministers?
you can't because the argument between the two nations over KTM land only began in 1990, wakakaka, with Maddy making it worse in 1997 - that's his bloody mindedness, wakakaka
Deletejadi mahathir mesti bertanggungjawab keatas kehilangan tanah ktm. the 'list' is getting longer.
Deletewell, he didn't hilang it but keep it covered with lalang - wakakaka, he likes lalang. he just wanted to frustrate the Sing with a most valuable piece of land lying there uselessly
Deleteah jib gor is more cooperative & constructive than maddy - he enters into a joint development with sing on ktm land with 60% malaysia & 40% sing sharing
yes, yes, ahjibgor must cooperate with singapore. ktm station in the island can be more or less compared to the basel baden railway station which is part of germany located in switzerland. bottom line, whether the doing of mahathir or najib, malaysia lost its sovereignty. the former rocked the boat and then the latter kasi tenggelam. pak lah claimed to be the political son of tun razak while ahjibgor inherits & perfects the legacy of che det.
DeleteA sovereign nation can designate changes in Parliment with regards to anything within their border.
ReplyDeleteLand was negotiated for fair exchange.
Statutes could have been enacted and the Land in question could have been worthless which wasn't resorted to.
Has to recognise the independance of a nation state.
sing didn't go that far - probably was waiting for maddy to leave his pm's post, wakakaka
Deleteotoh, israel has legislated laws to seize and turn palestinian land and housing into israeli property and that's on West Bank which belongs to palestinians - Israeli government is a bloody robber - even a likud member and various labour mps have condemned such blatant robbery
Its not that simple.
DeleteWhen Singapore and Malaysia parted ways, a number of pre-existing agreements had to be respected by both parties, otherwise the entire package of agreements would come under a cloud.
The permanent way of the KTM railway lines and a strip of land on either side was remained Singapore sovereignity territory but given as a Right-of-use for the Malayan Railways track "in perpetuity".
On Malaysia's side, the existing agreements to supply water were also sacrosanct.
Changes in technology and public travel preferences meant that the Malayan Railway's train was no longer economically viable. The land did not "belong" to KTM, if it was no longer used for the Railway line, Malaysia had to give up the land.
The Railway Line was always a bargaining chip, whether under Mahathir or Badawi or Najib.
Singapore badly wanted to regain control of the land, Malayan Railways was no longer economically viable.
What was in question was how hard to drive a bargain.
Don't talk cock, Read up on Sing vs Malaysia's immigration control point. Maddy is juts bad-hearted, mean spirited and as Penangites would say, 'ch'ou sim'.
DeleteTalk cock ? You are distributing fake news just because of you single-minded revulsion of Mahathir.
ReplyDeleteHere is the real-story of the Malayan Railways line in Singapore.
https://www.rsis.edu.sg/rsis-publication/rsis/1366-railway-land-swap-new-light-o/#.WKGJyk27rDc
S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, mind you, not Ktemoc fake news.
352.52 acres (141ha) was to be held by the Federal Land Commissioner for a period of 999 years while 81.74 acres (32.7ha) was for perpetuity. If the land were no longer to be used for rail services, it was to be returned to the respective Straits Settlement without compensation whatsoever..
Singapore's unilateral movement of the Immigration control point to Woodlands was an underhand move to force Malaysia to move out.
you have been the one talking cock, ignoring the truth that Malaysia (from instructions "above") refused during Maddy's time to move away from Tanjong Pagar station even though Sing moved to Woodlands Train Checkpoint (WTCP), thus hanging on to the land
DeleteIt was only in 2010 when Najib was PM, did the two nations solved the immigration checkpoints and freed up the land for development. The reason was then given in your https://www.rsis.edu.sg/rsis-publication/rsis/1366-railway-land-swap-new-light-o/#.WKGJyk27rDc
check your facts about maddy's heels-dragging and stop bullshitting by putting what najib and lee hsien leong came to a consensus as if that was apparent right from maddy's days