Sunday, August 31, 2008

51st Merdeka - A tale of two cities societies

"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" ... is the opening sentence of Charles Dickens’ book ‘A tale of two cities’.

The book is about events during the French Revolution. It describes the plight of the ordinary French people under the oppressive yokel of the French aristocracy in the years leading up to the revolution, and how the people rose up against the brutal upper class.

The book portrays the at-times criminal arrogance of the upper class, treachery, revenge, sinister plots, frame-ups and noble characters.

Sounds familiar? ;-)


Yes, when we read Malaysiakini news article Racism still haunts nation at 51st Merdeka it wouldn't be inappropriate one day to quote Dickens that in the year 2008 "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times".

But I hope Malaysians don’t adopt those violent means of the revolution depicted in 'The tale of two cities', that some people here in Malaysia seems to have a preference for. If there is to be any revolution, it must be via a democratic and civilized society's ballot box, or we could end up being Mugabe-ised - wakakaka.

Now, sweetie Helen Ang, a columnist at Malaysiakini, wrote The tale of two MPs, with her article’s title, I suspect, being a pun on Dickens’ book title.

Staring from the recent Permatang Pauh by-election, she weaved her narrative through the parlous state of racist politics in our country, with its over-emphasis on (or exploitation of) religion … and mind you, not religion per se but rather politicised religion with an eye towards ethnic control.

She also commented on Dr Mahathir successfully neutralizing Anwar Ibrahim’s Reformasi 10 years ago.


Reformasi! I have always asserted that this term bandied around since 1998 has a gross misuse of the meaning of reformasi (political reforms), brazenly posing as one of those miraculous, and thus implausible, overnight ‘Road to Damascus’ insight.

To paraphrase W Churchill’s immortal words, ‘never in the field of human political struggle, has so much ideological belakang pusing (about-turn) been embraced by one man in just one night’ ;-)

… yes, that ‘Road to Damascus’ insight which had resulted in frightening road protests, or should it be instead, frightening road protests which propagandised the ‘Road to Damascus’ insight.

Anyway, sweetie quoted what Dr M said when he reminisced about the aftermath of the so-called Reformasi movement, that “the Chinese electorate ensured that I got the 2/3 majority in 1999”.

From her writing, she seems a rather intense sweetie, and she blamed the Chinese electorate for retaining Dr M in power, and consequently (and thus, I suppose, liable too for) Anwar remaining imprisoned and in political wilderness … until his recent phoenix-like rising.


My personal take is that in 1998 Anwar Ibrahim fell on his own UMNO keris when his UMNO faction attempted to nudge Dr M out with an allegation of cronyism and nepotism but which (the occurrence of cronyism and nepotism) ricochetted back on Anwar. Hardly political reforms!

Sweetie said padan muka to Chinese Malaysians (especially if they are Christians) who complained about religious repression because they deserve the 22 ‘vintage Mahathir years’ that have ensured the prevalence of Ketuanan Melayu.

She reminded us that "Exercise of coercive power by Umno administrations (both Dr M and now his successor’s) has had the side effect of empowering the Islamist state apparat. If today, the Christian flock – particularly Chinese – were to complain of religious repression, then they are only reaping what they’ve sown."

She was most sorry for the plight of some Malay 'apostates', trapped by politically erected religious barriers from leaving Islam, and tossed in the interesting question, that if Lina Joy had been a Chinese, would she have faced such virulent vicious vehement opposition to her declaration that she has already left Islam?

Then she mentioned two things that I must comment on ;-). She wrote:

(1)
I cannot think of any self-professed ‘democratic’ state, unless this country considers itself a theocracy, where there is similarly such a stringent interference in its citizen’s choice and practice of religion like here in Malaysia, with the exception of perhaps Israel.

Tell me now, which other democratic country in the world brings the full force of the law to bear upon a man for freedom of conscience? Does Ireland mandate that an Irish must be Catholic and nothing else? Does Thailand regulate Thais to observe strictly the tenets of Buddhism?

Actually, until recently Greece, even as a member State of the EU, did not permit complete freedom of worship.


I read a BBC news article Ancient Greek gods' new believers as well as a Sydney Morning Herald piece Modern pagans worship illegally in Athens last year, where a group of Greeks who wanted to worship the ancient Greek Gods (immortal studs like Zeus and sexy yummy Aphrodite) had to take their case to court to demand that they should not be prevented by State laws from doing so. Fortunately for them they won.

Mt Olympus 1 - Byzantium religions 0

Wooooot, I always have a fantasy for a sweetie like cool, cold, freezing Artemis but I read that she doesn’t like men, being a … well, you know … and she would blind them (if they happen to see her naked during her bathing - damn!), castrate them … gulp … or turn them into stags to be … gulp … hunted by her.


Maybe it's best if I restrict my fantasy to the Goddess born from sea bubbles, Aphrodite ;-), or just to older women which I mentioned in Lustful fantasies - wakakaka!

(2) The more strenuously the duplicitous ruling regime is challenged by People Power, the more desperately they sabre-rattle their Ketuanan Melayu jingoism. To his credit, Anwar has eschewed this retrogressive communitarian tack and even in Permatang Pauh where the constituency has almost 70% Malay voters. He has stood by and is still standing on his pluralistic platform.

Well, Anwar has no choice, has he? What do you think his current power base is made up from? And let the bells of the temple ring forever to remind us of this.

I believe that until Anwar gets back to UMNO, he’ll be the most multi whatever there is.

However, I am always forgiving and willing to embrace his noveau politics wakakaka, but I would insist that Anwar read at least the first part of the following line:

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.”

It’s the last sentence from Dickens ‘A tale of two cities.’

52 comments:

  1. "I am always forgiving"

    yeah right, you vindictive cold-hearted bastard

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  2. ... and guess who always have to spoil it by reneging on promises to behave? It's Merdeka Day - go out and have fun instead of leaving bitter notes on my blog.

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  3. The above is a very negative view of Anwar Ibrahim based on a tautological argument i.e. an argument which you intend to win no matter what the outcome is.

    Anwar is a dangerous two-faced devil since he is out of UMNO, based on his past.

    Anwar is a dangerous two-faced devil since he will go back to UMNO.

    I've lived long enough to know that people who set up tautological arguments are not to be trusted....wakakakakaka...

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  4. The Constitution of Malaysia says that the Agong is to appoint the Prime Minister from a member of the Dewan Rakyat whom he considers holds the confidence of the majority of the members of the house.

    If it becomes clear the Prime Minister no longer has the confidence of the majority of MPs, then the Agong has the choice of

    a) Dissoving the House and call fresh General elections
    b) Appoint a new Prime Minister who does have the confidence of the majority of the members.

    Why should we be Mugabe-ised ?

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  5. people who seeks power through undemocractic means (like enticing fr4ogs as he did in 1994 in Sabah) are more likely to cling on to power through undemocratic means - that's what Mugabe-ised means

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  6. The world will have frogs.So what?In politics, anythig goes.Can you change MCA or MIC? Ask them why they are clinging on for 50 over years? Asked why those component lap dogs are around?All of them knows the non muslims are being whacked around but yet remain silent.
    People will be fools and can still accept the wrongs of the present government.
    Therefore its better we kick the arse of our MPs to jump ship.The country does not have a capable Captain and his goons are running the show!
    Tell us what do we do?
    Ktemoc, what is the best solution for now? To carry on with doubts of Anwar and pray we are suckers to believe the present evil regime.
    We are no better than Myamar except the police is taking the jobs of the army .
    We have reach a point where any devil will do as long we see its different from the 50 years we endured.
    Stop being obsessed with destroying that small light in the tunnel and am sure half the population is in favour of him being PM.

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  7. anon of 9:19 pm, you stated "Therefore its better we kick the arse of our MPs to jump ship"

    Who do you mean by 'we'? The people who voted for the respective MPs, or the PKR frog hunters who now claim to speak for the voters?

    Is this reformasi when you PKR frog hunters attempt to usurp the democratic rights of the people who had already cast their votes on 08 March 2008?

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  8. who ever promised you to behave? control freak! let's not talk about renegin on promises, LIAR

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  9. "people who seeks power through undemocractic means (like enticing fr4ogs as he did in 1994 in Sabah) are more likely to cling on to power through undemocratic means - that's what Mugabe-ised means"

    I think this misses the equally important (IMHO) point that this would set a precedent for such illegitimate transfer of power - and this precedent would be set even if Anwar turns out to be a single-term PM.

    We owe it to future generations of Malaysians to preserve some basic degree of democratic decency and culture. We must not "go there", or "lower the bar" that much.

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  10. well stated, int! You put it fa better than I did, bravo!

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  11. I think it's healthy to have a strong opposition esp Anwar to keep ppl on their toes.

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  12. Aaaa....h...you are far too cynical. Come now, who better then a poacher turned game keeper to deliver the goods ....he now promices. He was, all things you say - but his rebirth has be fashioned out of the fires of hell itself..... so I will -for now- tag along with the masses. Where is the alternative?

    Strange too that I should quote the mad, sad and bad Marquis de Sade but in his published work ‘Juliette’, (published in 1797), here is a scene frome Sade’s Juliette explaining to King Ferdinand the consequences of his policies:
    “Though nature lavishes much upon your people, their circumstances are strait. But this is not the effect of their laziness; this general paralysis has its source in your policy which, from maintaining the people in dependence, shuts them out from wealth; their ills are thus rendered beyond remedy, and the political state is in a situation no less grave than the civil government, since it must seek its strength in its very weakness. Your apprehension, Ferdinand, lest someone discover the things I have been telling you leads you to exile arts and talents from your realm. You fear the powerful eye of genius, that is why you encourage ignorance. Tis opium (race/religion) you feed your people, so that, drugged, they do not feel their hurts, inflicted by you. And that is why where you reign no establishments are to be found giving great men to the homeland; the rewards due knowledge are unknown here, and as there is neither honor nor profit in being wise, nobody seeks after wisdom.
    I have studied your civil laws, they are good, but poorly enforced, and as a result they sink into ever further decay. And the consequences thereof? A man prefers to live amidst their corruption rather than plead for their reform, because he fears, and with reason, that this reform will engender infinitely more abuses than it will do away with; things are left as they are. Nevertheless, everything goes askew and awry and as a career in government has no more attractions than one in the arts, nobody involves himself in public affairs; and for all this compensation is offered in the form of luxury, of frivolity, of entertainments. So it is that among you a taste for trivial things replaces a taste for great ones, that the time which ought to be devoted to the latter is frittered away on futilities, and that you will be subjegated sooner or later and again and again by any foe who bothers to make the effort”.
    Apt! is it not?
    Anyway here is my take on UMNO's BN
    "Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad." Euripides (c. 485-406 B.C.)
    Bye
    Fellow procrastinator

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  13. "Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad." Euripides (c. 485-406 B.C.)

    Couldn't that also applies to a person who is gay ?

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  14. ktemoc,
    The people who voted BN now realised that they were conned wholesale.Should they bear another of 5 years of uncertainty.?
    The non muslims have enough so its not too late to turn the tables.Forget about the democratic rights and honour.Look at Thailand ,the people still thinks Samak is a lackey for Thaskin and they are fighting tooth and nail to get him out.! Is fighting for a cause to get MPs being frogs that sinful?

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  15. "Forget about the democratic rights and honour"???

    Fantastically ... frightening!!! Yes, forget about basic rights, free speech, democratic process, good governance, transparency, accountability??? and why not, since you suggested it in the first place.

    And honour??? whooooosh - I'm totally and utterly flabbergasted.

    +++++++++++ and

    Anon of 6:14 am - are you saying that:

    democratic process = trivial things, while

    the ambitions of one person = great things?

    Wow and double and triple wows, this most undemocratic idée fixe sold by a snake oil saleman, brings to mind a paragraph from Shakespeare's Hamlet:

    If it were done, when 'tis done, then 'twere well
    It were done quickly. If th' assassination
    Could trammel up the consequence, and catch
    With his surcease, success: that but this blow
    Might be the be-all and the end-all—here,
    But here, upon this bank and shoal of time,
    We'd jump the life to come
    .


    As visitor int of 10:22 pm (31 Aug) mentioned, it is the frightening (likely oppressive) consequences (precedence) of such an undemocratic seizure of power for our future generations that we should think about, rather than the personal frustrated ambitions of one man who had in his ministerial record never shown any conduct, an iota, of real political reforms.

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  16. ooops, forgot the reference - tis Macbeth Act 1, scene 7, 1–7 ;-)

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  17. typo re my post of 11:53 am, my "... from Shakespeare's Hamlet" should have read "... from Shakespeare's Macbeth"

    I should have been more man man lai ;-)

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  18. Does anyone still remember the ISA detainees ?

    Please light a candle to remember them this Merdeka Day weekend...

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  19. Anonymous 11:07 AMsaid...

    ktemoc,
    The people who voted BN now realised that they were conned wholesale.

    Anonymous you think so ? We voted for the opposition the last election but I don't think we were conned . We were glad they help us got rid of unwanted dead wood .

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  20. .Can you change MCA or MIC? Ask them why they are clinging on for 50 over years .

    50 years ? And the Chinese were voting for them all these while ? So whose is to be blame ? Or is it now only suddenly you realise you have just woken up from your deep slumber ? Like your prince charming wakening up snow white ?

    When did the rot started ? Immediately after independence (50years ago) or during Mahathir's reign (25 years ago) You seem to be so inteeligent you tell me !

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  21. Anonymous who signs off as Fellow procrastinator reminds me of someone who writes in this manner and quotes from European history and is known to post daily in Susan loone's blog .As known as the right hand man of of Susan and likes to stomp his writings here .
    Oo ee kong boh loo kong !type of fellow . I think I know who he is and I think I am not wrong . kitty's good friend .

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  22. No, MCA and MIC can't be changed.
    If they didn't exist, BUMNO would have to create them.

    They play the role today which the British created for the Kapitan China and Kapitan Keling (apologies to my Indian friends - that was the actual title).
    Its how the present day Colonial power in Malaysia, called BUMNO stays in power.

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  23. KTemoc,
    Never knew you have so much lap dogs by your side.One of your famous is that chinese ustaz chaptokan.The trouble with this lap dogs of BN is they talk like a book but always thinking like a drum.
    ANyway with BN in control, tell us how democratic we are now? Tell us if the Judiciary is free. Tell us if the country is really free.Look the powers in charge will not do away with all those draconian laws.
    Maybe you all can wait for the cows to come home if you think freedom and your rights will come on a platter!
    Chaptokan! the rot started when your forefathers were so intend to spread their legs between two countries and accepted citizenship.You see the non malays could care a damm about you future generation.If this isnt a mess than what is.
    Hey you chinese and indians stop moaning as your father FORGOT about political right.Chaptokan go ask those umnoputeras if it its true.

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  24. quote "... tell us how democratic we are now?" unquote

    just 6 months haven't we ago won and held 5 States and denied the BN its 2/3 maority?

    Hasn't Anwar Ibrahim just won PP with an increased majority?

    Regrettably you and many other good folks have been imbued by Anwar with his personal impatience to be PM by crook rather than by hook ;-) - he is only interested in that, rather than any belief in democracy, because what he has been promoting have been absolutely undemocratic - just like what he did to PBS Pairin in Sabah in 1994 wakakaka.

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  25. Anonymous
    Hey you chinese and indians stop moaning as your father FORGOT about political right.

    With just 25 percent of the population in Malaysia , canyou advised us and give us your wisdom in overcoming this racist problem other than PKR ? Like to hear from you after all lap dogs talk like a book but always thinking like a drum. Ever heard of this saying , birds of the same feather flock together . We don't have to be lap dogs to KT , but definetly we have the same thinking don't you agree ?
    And btw thanks for the title ustaz bestowed on me by .....??his most exalted one ??

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  26. I thought Kapitan China and Kapitan Keling existed during the nineteenth century , long before BUMNO was formed ! But how do you equate those two to MCA and MIC ? Kapitan Keling was in refering to the Indian Muslims group who were quite predominant in Penang those days and not the Indians !

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  27. Jed Yoong

    I think it's healthy to have a strong opposition esp Anwar to keep ppl on their toes.

    That's the most excellent piece of ideology coming from you . Today I fully support you on this !

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  28. The Chinese population in Australia is 3.4% - absolutely no chance for any form of political power. Yet many of the best and brightest of the Malaysian Chinese population are making a beeline to emigrate there.
    Why ? Its not about political power. Its about being treated fairly, being treated for what you are, not just your race. Australia still has race problems, more of the casual kind, but it has near zero institutional discrimination.

    So the way I see it, the best answer for the Non-Malay population in Malaysia is to support non-race based politics.
    Gerakan doesn't count.

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  29. kitty
    So the way I see it, the best answer for the Non-Malay population in Malaysia is to support non-race based politics.
    I can accept this and agree to this concept ! but it takes time . Just two more months for MCA to mutate , that's all I can say at this moment ! We have to clean house first !

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  30. Whoaa! Ktemoc and chaptokan , you guys sucks! You all voted PKR and you hate Anwars guts to be PM.Who do you think can fit the shoes of future PM?
    Can it be AH CHEE OR AH Kow?
    Forget it about non race based politics.It gonna be here as long as it lasts .You guys are day dreaming.This is a real world and if you guys lived through May 13, you will realised its so different from what you blog.

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  31. Hi Ktemoc

    Yes. We can learn from French history. The Ancien Regime was on its last legs because of massive corruption and gross neglect of the welfare of the ordinary French people. The rising bourgeoisie was also highly dissatisfied.

    It came to the point where the more enlightened members of the ruling aristocrats (I'll call them the EMRA) began to sympathise with the anti-royalists e.g. the EMRA began reading censored material (and actually agreeing with them!), they laughed at anti-royalist jokes, some of the EMRA actually joined the revolutionaries and so on.
    Also, the influence of the anti-royalist mass media grew as people became more and more literate.

    Sounds familiar??

    Phua Kai Lit

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  32. What non race politics you are all are hoping for the future.? Chaptokan, tell us who controls the army, the police, the whole works in this country?
    Aiyaa! carry on eating choy poy and wait for a chinese PM.Nope the malays are not gonna allow it period !Blog by all means to release your tensions and there is future in it.GOOD LUCK to you all!

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  33. Phua, most certainly we can learn from French history. Pray tell me, who said the following words?

    "The goal of the constitutional government is to conserve the Republic; the aim of the revolutionary government is to found it ... The revolutionary government owes to the good citizen all the protection of the nation; it owes nothing to the Enemies of the People but death .. These notions would be enough to explain the origin and the nature of laws that we call revolutionary ... If the revolutionary government must be more active in its march and more free in his movements than an ordinary government, is it for that less fair and legitimate? No; it is supported by the most holy of all laws: the Salvation of the People."

    Sounds like your leader, yes?

    Find out what that person did for France, and what happen to him?

    Now, that would be a lesson to learn from French history!

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  34. Hi Ktemoc

    Not all "revolutions" end in bloodbaths. The French Revolution was bloody because the radical utopian intellectuals like Robespierre, Saint Just etc won out over the moderates such as Danton. Also, the other European monarchies felt very threatened by the ideas of the French Revolution and were out to "get" the revolutionary republic.

    It has been observed that successful revolutions are often partnerships of intellectuals (the leaders) and the masses. But after the revolution, only popular democracy can keep the radical intellectuals in check. If a "revolution" is led by moderates (such as Mandela in South Africa) extremism can be avoided.

    The PR has the DAP to keep PAS and PKR more moderate, you know.
    :-)

    Phua Kai Lit

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  35. Wah, we have quotations here from Maximilien Robespierre, ah ?

    Since we are on historical quotation, let me put up one of my favourites.

    Oliver Cromwell's fighting words to the English Parliament.

    "You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately ... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go! "

    Oliver Cromwell adopted blatantly undemocratic and violent means, and I wouldn't ever suggest his methods.
    But the verdict of history is he ultimately saved the English democracy, and and ironically, the Monarchy as well.

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  36. BN has been good to all the races in the country. We should all support BN through this difficult period.

    Anwar Ibrahim is just a troublemaker.

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  37. Err ... anak merdeka

    Did you not read what the BN guy
    from UMNO Bukit Bendera branch
    said about Malaysians of Chinese ancestry? BN people like these are
    "good to all the races in the country"? (The families of some of the Peranakan Chinese in Melaka and Penang have been here for hundreds of years!)
    Statements from people like these
    really "make me feel troubled" indeed!

    Phua Kai Lit

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  38. Same like Zulkifli Noordin-lah.

    Just wait and see how lightly Anwar Ibrahim lets the Zul "Balik Cina" Noordin fella off.

    Watch what Anwar Ibrahim does, not what he says.

    BN is still the best.

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  39. Hi anak merdeka

    This is why we need a strong
    "civil society" in Malaysia with genuine NGOs and
    citizen bloggers to scrutinise
    both the BN and the PR politicos
    with eagle eyes. I know there are some ex-UMNO guys in the PKR who retain their Neanderthal mentality. :(

    Phua Kai Lit

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  40. Phua Kai Lit

    Did you not read what the BN guy
    from UMNO Bukit Bendera branch
    said about Malaysians of Chinese ancestry?

    Phua food for thought ? Ok Think about this ! Ahmad Ismail was or is Anwar's very strong supporter from Penang . He knew he is getting no where in Penang under UMNO .He may have intention to leave UMNO to join PKR !Best way to do this is get kicked out rather than leave on his own .Agree ! Next he utters that in the bye election knowing very well people in Penang knows he is from UMNO . Why ? to get the Chinese voters all riled up with UMNO and their racist ways and vote for PKR ! possible ? Next hoping to get expelled from BUMNO !
    Look at the two statements that confirms this suspicion .1) From Anwar - very mild rebuke - low class politician . 2) From Pak Lah - like almost no action at all - already told him to stop making this statement . Why doesn't want to sack or expel him as he so wishes that UMNO would do so .
    So Phua this is politics at the dirtiest ! We don't need these type of politicians whether in BN or in PKR ! what do you think !?

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  41. kk46, cut the crap la please... "no I don't support Kataks" he says... but clearly he would harbor those who do.

    Trying to have your fried frog legs and eat it too?

    Just come out and say it, be proud of your party! You support the idea of toppling the federal government on or around September 16th, don't you?

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  42. In the 2009 Budget, the Operating Expenditure i.e. the amount of money spent just to run the Malaysian government is a whopping RM 154 Billion.

    As a Baseline, even Dr. M, whom I often criticised for wastefulness, retired with a government operating budget of "only" RM 80 Billion in 2004.

    Don't talk about inflation. The government's own official inflation rate is only 5% per year over that period.

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  43. Hi chaptokam 3:45 pm

    It's possible. I don't know this guy's track record at all.
    But, as I've mentioned to Ktemoc earlier, Occam's Razor/Ockham's Razor (also called the "principle of parsimony") is preferable to complicated conspiracy theories.
    In other words, simpler explanations with fewer assumptions are preferable to more complicated explanations that require many assumptions.

    I suppose if we look at this guy's track record and he has a history of consistently making racist remarks, then he is just an out-and-out racist. If the track record does not show this, then it could be a remark made on the spur of the moment because of anger. Or it could be because of your suspicion :-)

    Phua Kai Lit

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  44. Int,
    I don't support kataks - as I mentioned many times before.

    I support Bangsa Malaysia, and I have for some years now concluded that BUMNO has forfeited the trust of the Malaysian people, and needs to be removed from power for the sake of the country's future.

    I'm not supporting frogs as the right way to go about it.

    But to me, the big picture, above, is the core agenda, and unlike some others, I'm not removing support for PR and Anwar because of the issue of frogs.

    Life is not a black and white movie.

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  45. That, I believe, is also pretty close to Lim Guan Eng and DAP's current official party position, even though individual members and leaders have strong misgivings about the issue of frogs.

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  46. Emergency rule in Bangkok, this is due to the opposition demanding the resignation of Thailand's Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej, the resulted was street fighting overnight between opponents and supporters of the government which left one man dead and dozens of people injured.

    We will face the same path, if Anwar and PR do not stop the nonsense of undemocratically toppling the legitimately elected government.

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  47. kittykat, Oliver Cromwell was a Protestant Taliban. Indeed he used force to dimiss Parliament. He committed what many have termed as genocide against the English Catholics. The English only managed to get rid of his dictatorship when he died. When the Royalist came back into power with Charles II, his corpse was dug up, beheaded and hung up in chains - such was the hatred many English had harboured against this dictator.

    The Catholic Irish hated him with a vengeance for his genocidal massacre of the inhabitants of Drogheda. And Mr Taliban said it was the righteous judgement of God on those barbarous wretches. Not my sort of hero who belongs more in Afghanistan.

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  48. kittykat, I ditto int - your conscience has had you tap dancing on the frog issue - that is, if you anwaristas can ever see through the irony of your abetment of Anwar's most undemocratic and sinister intent, a skill honed by his experience in Sabah which he shows he hasn't forgotten hs UMNO ways, and yet you dare talk about democratic process and people's interests ;-)

    The only big picture is Anwar wanting to become PM, even by crook, as he has amply demonstrated - hang thy heads in shame lah, you anwaristas

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  49. kittykat do you dunno BUMNO will take the issues of katakrista lying down ? And zombieing a legitimate government voted in , in PRU12 ?
    You got it just not that right by saying the road ahead is bumpy , but I reckoned it to the road ahead is is swamped with landmines and IEDs .Also two can play the same game , as BUMNO has plenty of cash reserves and resources for this katakfication process . See who wins in the end ! Say what you want but BUMNO still has their human resources and what we see today in Bangkok as xiean says is going to turn baldy bloody .

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  51. But MCA still loves him, right ?

    That's the problem with all you MCA-machais. No backbone, no principles...and you talk about Anwar Ibrahim being unprincipled....wakakakaka

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  52. anwar's gonna play dirty, he's gonna BUY those MP's, and all you anwaristas know it, but wont admit it, bunch of fucking hypocrites you guys turn out to be

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