Monday, February 06, 2017

Ku Nan, a mouse romancing elephant

This is a man who obtained only 9,943 votes out of 15,791 votes in 2013 to become a bullshitting federal minister who is always bodek-ing Najib for his own political survival, even within UMNO, wakakaka.


I only wanted to bring development to Penang
No no I only wanted help the marginalised Malays
No no I only wanted to bodek my UMNO boss
No no I only wanted to ensure my place in GE-14
Yes yes I am an idiot

In 2013 his constituency of Putrajaya had a total votes, as just mentioned, of 15,791 of which 94% were Malays, 0 (zero) % Chinese, 3% Indians and 2% others. He wouldn't have survived otherwise.


His federal constituency size is only one-tenth of Kapar and, get this, has less voters than 35 of the 40 Penang state constituencies, more or less equal to 3 of them and only in two (Air Putih and Teluk Bahang, both at 13,000 plus) did Putrajaya have more voters.

But we need to remember we are comparing his so-called federal constituency with the state constituencies of Air Putih and Teluk Bahang in Penang.

Based on representation, he is not even fit to lick the boots of the 40 Penang Aduns. Paya Terubong state constituency by itself has 39,649 voters. That's two and one half Putrajaya.


Yet he wants to politically obliterate them - what an impertinent dwarf.

It reminds me of a story from India in which an elephant was grazing beneath a coconut tree and an impertinent rat attempted to screw the cow elephant. When a coconut fell on the head of the elephant below, the cow-pachyderm moaned 'Ouch'. The rat thought his wee 'lil johnny caused the pain to the cow elephant he was trying to bonk, so he said 'Sorry darling', wakakaka.


Now, that's impertinence!

But today, FMT reported constitutional law experts saying that to make Penang a FT is just impossible when Article 1(2)of the federal constitution states Penang is one of the 13 states in the federation, while Article 2 states that even merely altering the boundaries of any state requires consent of that particular state and the Conference of Rulers.

So while it's possible for the federal government to demand a part of a state to make that part into a FT, as in the case of Kuala Lumpur and Putrajaya, which were part of Selangor, those were only with the permission and agreement of (the former late) HRH Selangor, it cannot take an entire state.

Constitution expert Gurdial Singh Nijar said: “You cannot just take over a state. There is no provision for that.”

FMT also reported:

Ilham Centre executive director Mohamad Hisommudin Bakar said although it was true that federal territories did have some economic and social advantages, Tengku Adnan’s argument that the Malays in Penang were sidelined by the administration was “shallow”.

“If Malay development and success are the yardsticks for making an Unfederated Malay State (Negeri Tidak Bersekutu) a federal territory, surely these will be measured in the existing federal territories. Are Malays completely taken care of in Kuala Lumpur, Labuan and Putrajaya?

“Isn’t a proposal to protect a certain race a statement with racist elements? Surely it is not good to have a minister, who should represent all races, say such things,” he told FMT.

Hisommudin said Tengku Adnan’s proposal was entirely a political statement meant to serve Umno and BN’s interests, and could be seen an a “last attempt” to neutralise the influence and dominance of DAP’s politics in Penang.

“When there is no state legislative assembly, they can wipe out DAP from the state. They can stop DAP from advancing and prevent the opposition from spreading its influence.

“They may be thinking they can curb the political and economic strength the DAP has obtained through the administration of Penang. Under federal rule, projects and tenders will be controlled by the federal territories minister,”

Ku Nan has in making an ass of himself (which we all know already, that is, him being an ass, wakakaka) has also implicated his boss Najib kau kau.

UMNO should sack him for his shallow superficial stupid gambit because FMT reported on an analysis by Universiti Malaya political analyst Awang Azman Pawi as follows:

If Penang, Langkawi and parts of Malacca were made federal territories, the Barisan Nasional may lose the upcoming general election, says Universiti Malaya political analyst Awang Azman Pawi.

Awang pointed to what happened in Sabah when Labuan was turned into into a federal territory in 1984.

“When Labuan became a federal territory, it caused public uproar,” he told FMT when contacted.

As a result, the BN state government led by the then Sabah chief minister Harris Salleh, suffered a surprising defeat in the 1985 state election.

“Converting an area as a federal territory isn’t as simple as it seems. Harris lost in the elections despite being popular among the people.


On the above, wakakaka, please do read my post Sabahan politics.



31 comments:

  1. I thought that Donald Trump was unworthy to be the POTUS,because of the meddling of his master,Vladimir Putin.Donald Trump will always be a puppet to Putin,but Ku Nan is even worse.He has to suck up to every Umnoputra,in order to get another chance to stand in an under 17k constituency.Hehehe,a mouse can only grow up to be a rat>

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  2. Since that it is getting so real that Zaid Ibrahim,is joining DAP,Ku Nan should stand against Zaid in a more neutral and level playing field constituency.How about one with 65% Malays and 35% others.And Ku Nan can choose which constituency he favors most.That is,if he got real balls.

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  3. I think it is legally and technically possible to turn FT into a State and a State into a FT by amending the Articles of the Federal Constitution, as well as other relevant legislations.

    For example constitutional amendment No.2 Act 1984 or Act A585 was passed to provide the establishment of the FT of Labuan.

    Of course the Nons would have no objection if all the Sultanate States are to be turned into FTs. Wakakaka..  But first you need to get the consent of the HRH Sultans lah!

    Pray tell me who owns Penang Island and Seberang Perai eh? The record says Kedah.  Even Tun Dr Mahathir said.. "He had studied the old agreement made by the British and Kedah in 1800 and that the state had the right to ask for a revision of the agreement to reflect current times."

    Lets us remember that the Francis Light had never fulfilled one of the conditions set in the treaty which was to protect Kedah against the Saimese! Didn't that not make the aforesaid treaty null and void? Of course we mustn't forget the British gunboat diplomacy then! Wakakaka..

    Later, when we gained our independence shouldn't Penang and Seberang Perai be reverted to Kedah automatically? No? Today, is Kedah not providing free water to Penang? Has Penang ceased to pay its yearly honorarium to Kedah?

    Dindings and Pangkor Island were given back to Perak; Hong Kong and Macau were given back to China after155 years and 442 years of British and Portugese rule, so, IMHO, it is still constitutionally and politically possible to give Seberang Prai back to the Sultan of Kedah, and in return to request the Sultan  to  turn Penang Island into a FT.

    And now, behold, I suppose that ye ponder somewhat in your hearts, if that fateful day comes, guess who is going to get/feel legally and constitutionally suckered? Wakakaka...

    I guess.. Ku Nan's opinion is not at all preposterous?

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    1. Penang was CEDED to the Poms in 1786, no doubt under dodgy circumstances and terms, but when HRH Sultan Kedah attempted to take it he was defeated by the Poms. Later he even ceded Province Wellesley (now Bagan) to the Poms for an honorarium of about 20K ringgit per annum.

      Maddy talked cock when Penang fell to Pakatan, but never uttered a word when it was under BN.

      Hong Kong was given back though it needn't, but the Poms saw an island without Kowloon (leased not ceded like the island) was pretty useless, apart from the reality the Brits did NOT want their Chinese HK citizens rushing into teh UK, wakakaka

      That was why HK's last governor Patterson had a job to convince HK people they could be independent of China, be Hongkies themselves and NOT be British. He convinced the gullible Hongkies (much to the annoyance of China0 and saved Britain from hordes of Chinamen storming into Britain and from the criticisms of other European nations and the world.

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    2. missing one word in "but when HRH Sultan Kedah attempted to take it", add at end "back"

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    3. All the cockagroo just to syoik sensitive!!!

      Let me add one, to stir yr fantasy - ketuanan ke, feudalistic ke, or republican ke.

      “还权与民” is the wheel of history that propels a nation to a higher level of development.

      Whatsoever 'deals', treaties in the past, r past legacies that depended on a set of parameters that r no longer relevant.

      So, why keep digging the historical evidences, that u can ONLY conjecture, to satisfy yr egoistic rants?

      If u r insisting on this track, then the best possible solution is to let the Penangites decide.

      Secession COULD be the ONLY outcome, I'm surely bet!

      But, by then all u ketuanan freaks would be crying father mother about non-alienized 'native' rights, which r not yrs in the 1st place!

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    4. if i am not incorrect, the fed gomen has been paying the rm20m per annum until today to the kedah sultan if not the state. what does that meen?

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    5. not sure but I wonder why, if you are right, it's 20 million when it should only be thousands

      btw, Wiki says: An honorarium is an ex gratia payment (i.e., a payment made without the giver recognizing himself as having any liability or legal obligation made to a person for his or her services in a volunteer capacity or for services for which fees are not traditionally required).

      In other words, HRH is being paid without payer recognizing any obligation towards HRH Kedah as a leaser etc

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    6. ck, just curious, whats yr stance on hk, taiwan, tibet n xinjiang?

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    7. yes it's 20k, typo error.

      btw, wonder why tengku fraud did not include pangkor island as well.

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    8. he was tembak-ing here and there - probably didn't think of it, wakakaka, it's a wonder he didn't mention pulau perak - not many people know where pulau perak is

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    9. U people r REALLY losing the plot as that megalomaniac had conjecturalized about his haters.

      There is NO infamy here, for any other M'SIANS, except the zombies & the feudalistic ketuanan freaks here.

      For those bird-brains that argue for Penang and Seberang Perai to be reverted to Kedah & using HongKong/Macau as examples, they probably still thinking that Penang and Seberang Perai r under foreign controls!

      Hello, wake-up lah! Penang and Seberang Perai r governed by M'sian entity, who is ONLY opposing to the federal government.

      HongKong & Macau were under Pommie & Portuguese administrations under an unjust & strong-arm tactic before they were 'returned' to China.

      See the differences???

      Unless, these tempurung ketuanan freaks r treating fellow Nons as non M'sians, who r still paying homage to their ancestors' countries.

      Thinking about it, perhaps that's that Freudian knot that forever twisted around that anak-kecil-main-api type of siege mentality of these weaklings!

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    10. ck, apple to apple pls, u talk secession. since u think penang can do this, do u agree taiwan hk tibet n xinjiang also can? if yr reply is yes, then u r consistent, no right or wrong.

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    11. I think KT has binned my response in Mandarin about yr query wrt the taiwan hk tibet n xinjiang.

      That write-up is the best I can muscle out of my thought.

      Too bad!!!!!

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    12. Well, let me try again.

      As I expected, HY's udang is exactly revealed in his postulatef secession for taiwan hk tibet n xinjiang based on my takes of “还权与民”!

      However, there is more than just “还权与民” as interpreted by his act of 断章取意.

      Here is my expansion of “还权与民”.

      近来,民主派跳出来鼓吹“还权与民”?还鼓动西民主?

      那么何为“还政与民”?是要还给哪些“民”?民主真的就是民众当家做主吗?

      一,先说“还权与民"。

      民如果是指13亿国人的话,不用还甚么政!由全国人选出的人民代表选出的人大就代表人民行使权力了!

      有民晕会说应由13亿人一人一票选总统。

      但13亿国人由张王赵李等万姓组成,应选谁好?应让谁做主?

      美国等各国的选举都是由一幕后集团推出两侯选人,再让民众投个票从其中选其一吧?

      即然美国都非真正的一人一票,民晕鼓动在中国实行这一套的目的为何?其实质是嘛呢?

      我认为这是想颠覆和夺权!

      对两岸有野心的势力而言,因某的军力太强,他们已晓得武力夺权此路不通。

      因而才要鼓动所谓的民选,图谋通过竞选制和平夺权!

      因为民虽众却是抽象无组织的,而境内外的某党却是有组织的,且一直图复辟!

      在不能靠武力夺权的情况下,就只有鼓动“民主”来参与中国政治,以求能通过多D选举的“民主”来达到和平夺权的可能机会。

      所以,所谓的“还政与民”不是要还权给民众而是要求以此给想争权的某党以参政机会,实是要求把权还给某党而已!

      这就是民晕所谓“还政与民”的实质!

      二,再说“民主就是人民当家做主”论;

      确实,国家乃全民之国家。

      理论上人人有参与政治的权力。

      但民众众多,有13个亿,且各有利益各有诉求,智商能力不一;

      该选谁好?该让谁上台做主?

      所以,世界根本不存在全民做主的“民主”!只有间接民主,也即委托人模式,就是民众先选举出自己信任的人作为代理人-----人民代表。

      由这些人民代表再选出政府来代表人民行使权力。这就是间接民主,而非一人一票。

      所以,叫喊西民主的全是假民主!他们所谓的民主就是人民当家做主论纯是忽悠;

      事实是,在美国、日本都非全民做主民主而是财阀金权做主。

      没有任何一国是由平民做主的!

      实际上,世界各国真正做主的不是全民而是掌握资本的财阀和军队。

      是钱和枪在做主!

      美日不过是挂上个“民主”牌子的金权统治。

      议员均为资本精英或世袭家族。。。

      再从他们中推出两个侯选人让全民投个票从中选其一。

      这就是他们的“民主”?

      这就是民运们鼓吹的民众当家做主?实是财阀金权做主。

      这个星球上还没有一个社会是真正的民意全民主导的。

      普通民众表达意志,最终形成社会意志,形成机制是什么?是利益驱动吗?是长远和全局的利益驱动?短视、情绪化、道德诉求、地域或领域分割、民族或种族沙文主义、宗教价值观,等等一切非理性和短期的、分割的利益诉求,让民意无法成为健康的社会主导意志。

      所以说民主是相对的不是绝对的!

      民众千千万,各有利益各有诉求,且智商能力不一;

      如果人人都想当权,就会导致社会秩序大乱。

      而秩序是社会运转的基础。

      而相对民主的含义里面,除去应代表广大民众意志,还有一层,叫做委托人模式,就是民众选举出自己信任的人作为代理人,由代理人按照民众的价值理念行使管理的职责,这里的价值理念主要是民众对社会整体的期望,但不涉及实现模式,就是说大家选出自己信任的人,让他来实现大家的目标。

      这种机制更侧重代理人的自主性,在这一基础上,可以由该代理人进一步选举,选举出代理人认为完成自己使命的代理人,这就是所谓的间接民主!

      中国的政治体制就是从基层民众精英中产生基层人大委员,基层人大委员按照自己的意志选举出更高一级的代表,总共五级遴选,最终的代表与最初的基层意志并不直接挂钩,因此并不反应直接的基层意志,而更多代表社会整体的方向。基层问题的反馈较慢,上层意志的通过较强,这是这种模式的特质之一,这样的政治设计符合中国基层社会落后的现实。个人认为,中国的基层社会还远不具备现代意义科学和理性。。

      而民主派竭力鼓动虚伪全民民主,不过就是想借此颠覆现秩序来个一切推倒重来。

      而推倒重来对谁有利?

      不是全民而是有野心夺权的政治势力。

      但没有任何当权派会主动下台退出历史,所以最后的结果就是一战!

      但对平民来说就意味着还安定的生活的丧失,因为战乱中最苦的是人民!

      所以,某些势力为谋私夺权而鼓动虚伪的全民做主“民主”而置民众与动乱之中就是犯罪!

      So, who r the people that 'ask' for the secession of taiwan hk tibet n xinjiang?

      Really the people at large?

      Or the elites, the nose-led blur-sotongs (yes, they r not limited only in bolihland), or the puppeteers?

      Next, if they achieved the secession, could they govern the claimed territories with peace & order? Giving basic decent living standard to the people of that land?

      All, within the confinement of the complex geopolitic interplays!

      Many a time, situation turns urgly, due to power corruption, human nature, & incompetency, a opportunity, like Arab Spring, is lost.

      If all the elements fall into places like clockwork, then yr apple-to-apple argument works. Otherwise, it's just cockagroo!

      The question u'd asked is actually the oft-display of the dilemma of inconsistency, misguided by the popularism of political-correctness!

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    14. did you post it in the first place? I didn't delete any of your comments though you have been naughtily vile at times, wakakaka

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    15. found in auto spam. restored

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    16. CK.. 我的婆婆有时会问,为什么中国人正在和一个正在走向坟墓的马来人合作? Wakakaka!

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    17. 老兄,俺从未质疑西方民主不含虚伪本质,你如何就断定俺断章取意?再说,你写的再多也不能证明中国共产党那一套符合民主和民意,还权与民更说不上,讲来讲去,不就是人民愚钝,所以需要独裁精英来领导,他奶奶的,上台前这些精英可不是这样说的,ccp 如此,pap/umno 也是如此。

      俺的初衷不是与你争论民主,我只想说当你带出分离主义,你是不是也赞同中国应该分裂,你不能论及中国有一套,马来西亚又另一套,在这里你批判马来主义,谈到中国就维护大汉主义,我们也算是读过点书,做不成圣贤,也望能学学老祖宗的道理,己所不欲,勿施于人。

      将心比心,不对吗?

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    18. 中国人民对国家的政策真的没有什么可说的。 13亿人依靠一个绅士

      孔子是对中国政治模式的最大影响,中国的政治模式是家庭观念,而不是社会观念 - 从家庭到基于祖先崇拜和孝道的国家的直接过渡。

      人们一般分为农夫,接着是工匠,底层是商人

      西方被视为野蛮人。我认为他们在这方面有远见,我同意他们。

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    19. Kung Tze (Confucius) preached the order of things in society, of a son respecting and obeying the father, of juniors respecting seniors, of subject respecting and obeying a ruler, etc

      Confucian-indoctrinated Chinese make the best monarchists

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    20. I'll be brief.

      If u think that I've proposed secession of Pinang, then yr comprehension skill is, indeed, in big question!

      Do read my take AGAIN.

      论及中国有一套,马来西亚又另一套!!???

      Ditto above.

      人民愚钝,所以需要独裁精英来领导

      This is almost a recurring golden rule of the human history on earth. Can u show some other credible exceptions?

      谈到中国就维护大汉主义!!!????

      U still DONT understand my approach to 还权与民, even after my expansive detailing using current China as an example. So, I'm right in 断定你断章取意!

      学学老祖宗的道理,己所不欲,勿施于人。

      I can ONLY repeat;

      圣贤大儒高言动人, 社会治理一塌糊涂???

      老祖宗的道理, 要活学活用! 要不然就学有所憾. 对不起老祖宗!!!

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    21. '我的婆婆有时会问,为什么中国人正在和一个正在走向坟墓的马来人合作'

      Wakakakaka...

      你婆婆吃古不化, 小心卡在喉咙, 那就手尾长了!

      Ahjibgor is taking a page out from his father's China gimmicky play to save his political ass.

      If u meant the cooperation of LKS & mamak, then do continue to sleep on yr ketuanan dream.

      Yr nenek would be ashamed to have an decedent like u!

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    22. It's no surprise that Confucius' feudalistic concepts can rhymed with the ketuanan freaks' wet dream.

      Even 孔夫子 is NOT infallible!!!

      But 孔夫子 has more than feudalistic ideas. Those ideas r more relevant today than his decayed feudalism concept.

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    23. "Do read my take AGAIN." - u can rebut hasan without mention secession, n i am glad u didn't propose such absurdity, u should have said this when i seek first clarification from u

      "Can u show some other credible exceptions?" - taiwan n most scandinavian country did quite well.

      "还权与民" - mao cultural revolution is to me a product of 还权与民, when the peoples is not given a platform to change govt, riot n war could be the only option left.

      ”活学活用“ - 己所不欲,勿施于人真有那样复杂吗?

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  4. If Penang were to revert back to Kedah, then LGE would be the MB and not Ahmad Bashah. Taking the original result (not accounting for all those froggging since then) BN was 10(P)+21(K)=31adun PR was 30(P)+15(K)=45adun. Should have been reverted even before the GE13. Wakakakaka.............

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    1. wakakaka, we have to get LGE to bersunat

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  6. Lim Guan Eng has been known to quote from the Quran...which pushed the few Malay DAP Fanboys and Amanah supporters into bouts of ecstasy.

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