We don't need the content of the above article in the post for us to be able to discuss the issue - you can read said article yourself.
Yes, the news headline should be sufficient for us to talk about the NEP and its affirmative actions. As we Malaysians know, the 'affirmative actions' of NEP mean special benefits and advantages for Malays.
Robert Kuok believes that affirmative action had/has slowed Malaysia’s progress as a nation.
Mahathir as the über Melayu naturally says affirmative actions are STILL needed.
What is your opinion?
For me, I am NOT against the NEP itself but nonetheless I am very troubled by Mahathir's word 'STILL' as in 'affirmative action STILL needed'.
It's nearly 50 years of NEP's affirmative actions, thus I believe we need to fine-tune it for its true purpose to be realised.
I strongly we have to qualify NEP affirmative action as necessary strictly on a 'NEEDS' basis and not on a skin-colour basis. That way, as an example, poor Indians shall be also entitled to the benefits and advantages of the NEP.
My proposal should still see the majority of beneficiaries being Malays, though scions of Midas-rich Malays should NOT be beneficiaries anymore as daddies and mummies can be their private 'NEP'.
My proposal should still see the majority of beneficiaries being Malays, though scions of Midas-rich Malays should NOT be beneficiaries anymore as daddies and mummies can be their private 'NEP'.
Yes, years ago I wondered where the NEP was going when I saw the daughter of a very wealthy Malay surgeon received a terrifically substantial chunk of scholarship to attend a very prestigious overseas university. Scholarship is one of the affirmative actions of the NEP.
I know the family very well and are good mates with her dad, uncles and cousins. Thus I know her dad could have easily financed her overseas educational needs.
And the thing that riled me most was that she was just an average student to receive such a fantastic scholarship but when I looked around (at that time) I could see and read in newspapers of the significant number of non-Malay students who were bloody brilliant yet could not get one of those scholarships.
I like to see more children of Malay fishermen, Malay labourers and Malay office workers, etc, receive scholarships, thus 'needs' based qualifications are important for the NEP not to be abused by wealthy Malays.
I like to see more children of Malay fishermen, Malay labourers and Malay office workers, etc, receive scholarships, thus 'needs' based qualifications are important for the NEP not to be abused by wealthy Malays.
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The other affirmative action of the NEP is the discount for purchases of houses for Malays. Again, why should rich Malays get a 7% discount for the purchase of a house whilst struggling Chinese and Indians have to pay not just the 100% price but also subsidise the 3% given to Malays - now surely you don't think those housing developers were going to bear the loss of those discounts given to Malays?
Thus I disagree with Mahathir that the NEP with its ethnic-based characteristics in all its indiscriminating dispensation (to all Malays regardless of their needs) should STILL continue.
Of course affirmative action slows down everything.From a very hardworking and disciplined workforce,high productivity to laziness and inferior complex.The latter,"inferior complex" is very true.Just look at the losers,that is the Malay politicians scrapegoating the other races for their inability to adept to the challenges of the changing economy.Losers will always be losers and c#ck suckers.
ReplyDeleteWakakakaka………… let's get some facts into proper prospective:
ReplyDelete1) u r not against affirmative action.
2) u want the action to be more selective. Perhaps, based on merits & needs. Definitely not race-based (??)
3) Mamak said that if there was no affirmative action in place, Bumiputeras would be sidelined. Eg, “Without affirmative action there would not be enough scholarships for Bumiputeras,”
Yr 1&2 basically confirm that u, like mamak, want NEP affirmative actions to 'STILL' continue.
So u agree with mamak lah. Why so cheong hei & doing yr favourite facts looping?
Based on that reported press speech of mamak (3), he DIDN'T say ANYTHING about the NEP affirmative actions with its ethnic-based characteristics in all its indiscriminating dispensation (to all Malays regardless of their needs) should STILL be carried on as in the past.
He ONLY highlighted that w/o the NEP affirmative action, Bumiputeras would be sidelined. There would not be enough scholarships for Bumiputeras.
He COULD very well have the same 'understandings' as u in wanting to implement NEP.verX, Wakakakaka....
Lagi, the number of scholarships award to Bumiputeras is the jurisdiction of Agong as stated in the FedConst article 153. This has nothing to do with NEP!
Like it or not, majority of the Melayu have been meme-ed over the years into entitlement addicts. They can't compete on any level playing field of any disciplines. It would take a political hard-nosed like mamak to do the Herculean task of overhaul/remove that mentality.
Unlike yr preset prejudicial hatred for anything mamak, I have a strong 'feeling' that mamak.ver2 would be doing something drastic for his Melayu mudah lupa before his passing.
NEP.verX could be his legacy that he wants all M'sians to remember him rather than his 22 years of single-minded experiments with bolihland with a bunch of napkin-clothed blur-sotongs/ketuanan freaks in tow.
So, like usual u jump the gun AGAIN lah!
Wakakaka ....... Okay, so you mean :
Delete"Thus I disagree with Mahathir that the NEP with its ethnic-based characteristics in all its indiscriminating dispensation (to all Malays regardless of their needs) should STILL continue"
KT is putting words into Tun's mouth! Give you a like.
What was the original framework and aim of the NEP? How much of the original objectives has been skewered by free loaders who do not deserve to enjoy such priviledges hence causing disenchantment among those non-bumis who are also in need of such priviledges?
ReplyDeleteIs it so politically difficult to stop free loaders from enjoying such priviledges and at the same time include in non-bumis who are also in need such priviledge?
It sure needs a leader with strong political to overhaul the NEP and called it something else since the NEP is not a Never Ending Policy.
Test.
ReplyDeleteOver 150 years of divide and rule by the British have favoured the Chinese especially economically. With their wealth they started sending their children for good education long long time ago. NEP affirmative actions are still needed to address the damage from long histories of discrimination done by the British. The commercial buildings in the city are predominantly Chinese though!
ReplyDeleteMeet Malaysia's Super Grade A Bumiputera, the Class 1 beneficiary of the NEP.... Penang's Jho Low..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/02/28/jho-low-lambasts-doj-over-seizure-of-luxury-yacht/
Indonesian Authorities have seized his luxury mega yacht in Bali , worth RM 1,000,000,000 (that's 9 zeroes) that the United States Department of Justice says was bought with funds siphoned from wang Rakyat Malaysia through 1MDB.
Strictly speaking , the 1MDB fraud was not conducted in the US, so there is unlikely to be prosecution in US of Malaysian Official 1. However, using the US banking system to transact funds which are the product of illegal activity is itself a crime - money laundering. And property purchased in US fron the fruits if the crime can be subject to Civil Seizure, which is what is happening here.
How I wish I have just a wee fraction of that. I would have fulfilled my dreams and fantasies and travelled around the world, visiting exotic places and dance Ronggeng to the music of local Balinese bands...
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/02/28/jho-low-lambasts-doj-over-seizure-of-luxury-yacht/
DeleteWakakakaka.... Meet a bastardised byproduct (note carefully, it's byproduct, wakakakaka!!) of ketuanan freak copulating with blur-sotong!
Delete"Over 150 years of divide and rule by the British have favoured the Chinese especially economically."
Wakakakaka……… talking about ignorance of bolihland history & lagi want to twist his invented thrash further…… memang tak ada maruah!
Ouiii....How long ago was the pommie been the master of bolihland?
Divide & rule???
Favour the Chinese economically???
Bloody moron, if u really read & understand Malayan history, then u SHOULD have realised:
1) before pommie, there were Dutch & Portuguese. Jadi mana over 150 years of divide and rule by the British?
In yr f**k-upped wet dream ke!
2) yr inherited me-layu attitude towards WORK had forced the pommie
A) to import Indians from India to work on the tea plantation.
B) to allow Cinapeks from southern China to work on rubber & tin industries.
C) yr indoctrinated fear of proselytisation limited u people's contacts to outside & modern knowledge.
So WHY blame divide & rule when u people prefered the cozy tempurung!
To rectify the sopo imbalances, mental awakening from the feudalistic shackles IS the only solution to address the damage from long histories of discrimination done by the yrselves (British??? - a convenient pseudo-historical punching bag, wakakakaka).
Mfer, the commercial buildings in the city are predominantly Chinese bcoz the Cinapeks earned them through blood,sweat & years of hardworking.
Unlike, many of the other high-rise commercial buildings, not owned by the Others but 'given' to the Melayu organisations, via government patronages, in the name of adjusting the 'past injustices'!
Bila u r going to awake from yr wet dream erh?
The reality has been the Poms favoured malays over other races. It's their colonial policies to ensure the natives are protected after they left, with one reason being protection of their assets in malaya. the clauses of the constitutions as influenced and guided by the pommie overlords are proof of that. the poms never did care much about the chinese and indians
DeleteAs part of my training I was sent to outward bound school. I was there for about a month and when I went home I weighed only 63 kg. What I love most is the motto - "To Serve, To Strive, and Not To Yield". I maintain that weight and live with that motto till to this moment. I am gluten intolerance , ah then.. I take quinoa. My children bought it for me. They are all products of NEP. They have all graduated well, and all can vote in this GE14. I reminded them that without NEP who are you man?, and to always remember.. "To Serve, To Strive, and Not To Yield".
ReplyDeleteI studied at the University of Birmingham in the 1980's.
ReplyDeleteThe Malays I met there were all Government scholarship holders, and came from families ranging from moderate means to really poor.
I didn't know any scholarship holders from the Rich. Maybe there were, but I never knew of any.
The Malaysian Chinese were mostly well off to extremely well-off.
The New Economic Policy was vital to provide Malays with access to higher education which would otherwise have been denied them purely for family financial reasons.
There is a vast DB wrt farts like what u have mentioned in the defense of nep.
Delete1) "The Malays I met there were all Government scholarship holders, and came from families ranging from moderate means to really poor.
I didn't know any scholarship holders from the Rich. Maybe there were, but I never knew of any."
1st, ask honestly yrself what's yr academic performance before u got yr scholarship. (Note vis-a-vis the academic results of the Nons).
Big data, from the past, indicated u were mostly average but u did manage to assemble some schooling.
U were just like mamak squeezing into the uni bcoz of yr skin colour. (Mamak double cheated by claiming to be Melayu & Indian while conning his way into the medical faculty of um in S'pore.)
So, under the umbrella effect u were selected to be the pioneer & hopefully the role model to inspire the later Melayu.
WRT the rich Melayu, many of the kids were well look after by the family connections. Education was secondary to their life advancement.
Most of them had poor/nonexistent schoolings that didnt qualified them for tertiary education. Most of them ended up as dropouts or graduate of 野鸡大学.
Hence, u DIDNT met many of them in the uni.
The Chinese M'sians were mostly well off to extremely well-off.
That was the actual case then, as foreign tertiary education was EXPENSIVE & only the very rich could send their children oversea!
While u wrote, have u EVER given a thought to those academic excellent Nons who were refused scholarships bcoz the country had given the scholarship allocations to people like u?
Fast forward to now, u people have not been able to create the umbrella effect as envisaged by the nep planner (especially Just Faaland, the Norwegian political economist WHO actually formula the nep).
Lagi, u gain the feared monster of entitlement mentality Dr Faaland also envisaged.
U want easy life w/o putting in much efforts. In this way, u truly propagate that umbrella effect amongst yr kindred.
There is also an opportunity lost. With the blunders of cultivating 2nd best, M'sia loses many talents of Nons. Indirectly delaying/retarding the growth of sopo-economic M'sia.
Any wonder, why countries like Korea could leap forward so quickly & overtake M'sia when both were at the lower end (Korea lower still) of the sopofecon stage.
The current legacy of nep in education is the phenomenon of unemployment melayu graduates - lack of skill, low motivation & always required preferential treatment.
i think rk not talking abt scholarship.
ReplyDeleteDamn right, HY ! Trust you to bring this back to perspective. Good one.
Deleteyou're right, scholarships being only a very small element in NEP's affirmative actions
DeleteIs there such a thing as FOREVER ? Is it even desirable ?
DeleteSee what happens when Affirmative Action in this country is carried on indefinitely with no end in sight....the Malays now consider this as their right, not a privilege any more and will bristle and threaten a much worst May 13 when the subject is broached. And who are those group/s that most vehemently objected to this ending of NEP for ONLY the bumiputras ? These are mainly those who had made it...but who insisted on NEP assistance when they buy their 2nd or 3rd or even their 4th million ringgit homes or shoplots. Lets not even go into their free APs, licences, contracts, scholarships, special loans and Amanah Saham etc. These are those whose children must have government scholarships even though they could easily afford to fund their children's education. Their politicians like to justify NEP in terms of the huge numbers their universities had churned out Malay doctors, dentists, engineers, architects, scientists, teachers, etc. When subjects like Additional Maths have a passing grade of 12 or even 9 ( as confirmed by some teachers) for this majority race, not applicable to other races ( thank heaven !), what does it say about the standards of those students ? To these politicians, quantity triumphs over quality and that is why many others have not much sympathy when Mahathir himself, who was and apparently still is, such a firm advocate of indiscriminate AA for his race continuing indefinitely .... when the maestro himself openly wept in public and inquire piteously why his Malays are lazy, why Malays steals, why his Malays do not honor and pay their debts.
There is such a thing as too much is as bad as too little. In the beginning, NEP is needed to grow the Malay middle class and for wealth distribution. Now after decades, it has given us diminishing returns as abuse sets in. For the "too little" part, it is inhuman how the poorest of the poor, the Indians and some very poor Chinese too ( yes, there are some very poor Chinese too living in very appalling conditions !) were deliberately ignored as though as they were just mere decorative pieces in the landscape and not part of the citizenry that badly needed help too. So, too much is as bad as too little...Malays has gotten too much help and the poor Indians and some poor Chinese has got too little help.
Here is a very typical example of how nep has been exploited kau2 by these entitlement addicts.
ReplyDelete"My children bought it for me. They are all products of NEP. They have all graduated well.." - Unknown
Can u guys see the hypocritical greediness in the above statement?
Nep is intended to help the B40 of the Melayu by role inspiration & bootstrapping their economy with self help.
Yet, a nep beneficiary continue claiming nep scholarships for his children, when he can actually financing their education himself!
These 1st generation nep beneficiaries conveniently forget that after enjoying the benefits of free entitlements, they SHOULD help their other unfortunate kindreds by creating more opportunities as implied in the umbrella effect.
Instead, they feed on the nep pipeline as their personal 'banking' facilities! Such selfish/shameless entitlement attitude is depleting the limited scholarships to those who still need those financial helps.
Multiplying such greediness numerous times over these M40 generations, one gets to know WHY the nep cannot improve the financial status of the B40 over its 40+yrs of implantation.
The nep has been hijacked by majority of the M40 families, created by nep in the first place, to loop-feed their well-being.
The deepest cut is these M40's wealth is not generated by expanding the economic cake of the nation. Instead, their wealth is mined from the zero-sum total from the Nons.
Since the Melayu M40 is getting rich at the expense of the Nons, the economy of bolihland is not expanding. Moreover, most of these M40 r still depending on the govt for jobs & projects.
With the reducing engine of growth from the Nons & the Melayu M40 could not generate enough private sector jobs/projects, any wonder WHY these Melayu's spurious prosperity r castle in the air!
The unemployment & unemployability of the mass produced Melayu graduates r the sign of the rot surfacing.
Meanwhile, these hungry M40 hyenas continue chanting the choir of:
"The New Economic Policy was vital to provide Malays with access to higher education which would otherwise have been denied them purely for family financial reasons."
They conveniently ignore the TRUTH that it's they, the M40 nep beneficiaries, who r robbing the scholarship opportunity to the B40 Melayu!
"Nep is intended to help the B40 of the Melayu by role inspiration & bootstrapping their economy with self help"
Delete"Instead, they feed on the nep pipeline as their personal 'banking' facilities!"
Very aptly and so well-put by CK !
Now things have come to a head...all these years of feeding and mollycoddling an endless stream of a majority race of which the government has been urging and encouraging to "produce" rapidly...a figure of 70 million population was considered desirable at one time...and with the additional strains of unceasing rampant plundering of the coffer, it is not surprising that under Najib, our country's debt today is almost 1 Trillion. In 2025, our debt could easily pile up to 2 Trillion, given the economic state we are in now. If things don't bode well for the majority race, try to imagine what is the fate of the other races then ?
wonder who proposed a population of 70 million?
DeleteDr Mahathir was the one who proposed a population of 70 million.
DeletePlan & actual result r two different things!
DeleteSo what if mamak planed for 70mil pop, with possible very ill advices from hp6 advisors (wondering who were they!).
Had that plan been put into work? Any eager M'sians jumped in the challenge & procreated like rabbits?
Wakakakaka……
What r the current pop of bolihland? 32∼36mil & mainly from who?
Thus, mamak proposed, rakyat (especially the Nons) disposed.
Wakakakaka……
Jadi, what mamak wants doesn't always happen - as if u have claimed numerous times!
aiyoyo, CH has become another Monsterball, defending Mahathir fanatically, frantically and frenetically, wakakaka
DeleteBulls from a wordsmith!
DeleteJust bcoz he is an unmokkauxai, not schooled in the truth of “事是求实”.
Furthermore, been blindsided by his pet hatred, kt can twist ANYTHING for a one-liner argument!
Wakakakaka……
Ktemoc shitting Fake News, as usual.
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