Keep China trade separate from human rights, Boeing urges US
WASHINGTON: Boeing Co urged the US on Wednesday to keep human rights and other disputes separate from trade relations with Beijing, and warned European rival Airbus would gain if the US planemaker were locked out of China.
Chief Executive Dave Calhoun told an online business forum he believed a major aircraft subsidy dispute with Europe could be resolved after 16 years of wrangling at the World Trade Organization, but contrasted this with the outlook on China.
“I think politically (China) is more difficult for this administration and it was for the last administration. But we still have to trade with our largest partner in the world: China,” he told the US Chamber of Commerce Aviation Summit.
Noting multiple disputes, he added: “I am hoping we can sort of separate intellectual property, human rights and other things from trade and continue to encourage a free trade environment between these two economic juggernauts.
“We cannot afford to be locked out of that market. Our competitor will jump right in.”
Boeing and Airbus each sell about a quarter of their jetliners to China, which has edged past the US as the world’s largest domestic travel market.
China typically makes block purchases for imported jets, often coinciding with US or European diplomatic visits.
Boeing began to face questions over its share of the Chinese market as the US and China waged an 18-month trade war under then-US president Donald Trump, though China’s jet purchases have slowed across the board in recent years.
Beijing increasingly also faces tensions with the West over its treatment of ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang, and has warned foreign companies not to step into politics.
China rejects US charges it has committed genocide against Uighur and other Muslims in the remote western region, where activists say more than 1 million people are held in internment camps.
The White House and US Trade Representative did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Calhoun’s remarks.
China reviewing 737 MAX
President Joe Biden last month warned China would face “repercussions” for human rights abuses and said the US would reassert its global role in speaking up on such issues.
Boeing’s most pressing concerns in China, analysts say, include the fate of its 737 MAX passenger jet, which was grounded worldwide for almost two years after two fatal crashes.
US regulators approved the jet to fly again in November, followed by Europe and major markets apart from China, whose regulator continues to voice major safety concerns.
China has promised a “step-by-step” approach toward approving the plane, but Western industry sources say concerns are growing that the technical process could become mired in the growing diplomatic standoff between Beijing and Washington.
Calhoun said Boeing had carried out a “top-to-bottom” overhaul and “turned the place upside down” as it learns lessons internally from the crashes, which killed a combined 346 people.
The comments appeared designed to allay concerns from lawmakers and industry leaders, including the head of Dubai’s Emirates airline, who told Reuters in January that Boeing should recognise “top-down culpability and accountability” over the MAX.
Airline president Tim Clark said he was confident the redesigned jet was safe, however.
Boeing last week urged the dismissal of an investor lawsuit which claims Boeing’s board, where Calhoun served for a decade before becoming CEO in 2020, failed to monitor safety. It denied negligence and said the complaint ignored corporate controls.
Boeing has separately told employees that safety and quality metrics will be added to a general incentive compensation plan, according to a memo seen by Reuters.
5000 yo BullyDage can always design, certify, manufacture and fly their own commercial BullyJets instead.
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AEROSPACE AND DEFENSE
JANUARY 10, 2020
China's bid to challenge Boeing and Airbus falters
By Stella Qiu, Tim Hepher
BEIJING/PARIS - Development of China’s C919 single-aisle plane, already at least five years behind schedule, is going slower than expected, a dozen people familiar with the program told Reuters, as the state-owned Commercial Aircraft Corporation (COMAC) struggles with a range of technical issues that have severely restricted test flights. Delays are common in complex aerospace programs, but the especially slow progress is a potential embarrassment for China, which has invested heavily in its first serious attempt to break the hold of Boeing and Airbus on the global jet market.
The most recent problem came down to a mathematical error, according to four people with knowledge of the matter. COMAC engineers miscalculated the forces that would be placed on the plane’s twin engines in flight - known in the industry as loads - and sent inaccurate data to the engine manufacturer, CFM International, four people familiar with the matter told Reuters. As a result, the engine and its housing may both have to be reinforced, the people said, most likely at COMAC’s expense – though another source denied any modification.
That and other technical and structural glitches meant that by early December, after more than two and a half years of flight testing, COMAC had completed less than a fifth of the 4,200 hours in the air that it needs for final approval by the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC), two people close to the project told Reuters. COMAC, which has been developing the C919 largely in secret since 2008, rarely discloses its targets. Company official Yang Yang told Chinese state media in September that he expected certification by the country’s regulators in two to three years, without giving any further details. The company’s previous publicly stated target was end-2020. Other COMAC officials have said they are aiming for certification and delivery in 2021.
COMAC did not respond to Reuters requests for comment for this story. CFM, a joint venture between General Electric and France’s Safran, declined comment. COMAC has still not finalised the correct calculations and data to send to the engine manufacturer, which are key to ensuring that the engine does not fail under heavy loads, one of the sources told Reuters. Another said load calculations often evolve during development. But given the uncertainty, there is no guarantee COMAC will meet Yang’s 2021-2022 target, people close to the program told Reuters.
“Things do not always work out as planned, but I hope COMAC would slow down a bit and try not to rush things,” one of the sources familiar with the engine issue told Reuters. “Otherwise there will be tons of issues later on.”.
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Still high on heat with that cesspool c&p!
DeleteNo need to verify the story about C919 from alternative sources. Just shallow wholesome, even it's shitty!
Really can't expect anything more from a dickhead dwelled under a fart filled well.
C919 probably has a gigantic potential domestic demand pool , because CCP is not a real market economy.
ReplyDeletePharaoh Ix just has to command its domestic airlines - 60 % of your new Narrow Body Jets purchase SHALL be C919 .
So it shall be written, so it shall be done.
Let Boeing and Airbus fight over the remaining 40% wakakakaa..
So?
DeleteOld moneyed mfer, 你吹啊！
BTW, do u know the intricacies in aviation business than those Boeing & Airbus top hunchoes?
Oooop… … a spoon-fed know nothing 二世祖！
send tis boeing ceo to reeducation camp, or let him go missing for one month.
ReplyDeleteWho the f*ck r u?
DeleteYr 蔡妹妹 can secretly instigation any China sentiments in Myanmar, using ned fund via those Formosa trading outposts. Hopefully, those agitated Burmese wouldn't mistaken those Formosa factories as been Chinese owned! Karma is a bitch, remember that, 犬养mfer!
U, to advice who to "send tis boeing ceo to reeducation camp, or let him go missing for one month"?
CCP?
NED?
Yr 台毒 connections of inconsequential farts?
Wakakakakakaka… what a wet katak dream.
Like Jack Ma ?
DeleteWakakakakaka…
DeleteLike Jack Ma!
Truly blurred old moneyed mfer!
BTW, jack doesn't like old money.
oh, i almost forget jack, no more ma la, now a donkey, everyone can ride n kick.
DeleteYaloh, still riding high over those Formosa katak who r trying to entice him to help promote pineapple tarts in China!
DeleteBoeing CEO Dave Calhoun is flailing in the wind, after Boeing's reputation took a huge tumble with the disastrous Max killing machine let loose into the air with such incredible stupidity. And the whole airline industry in paralysis since the advent of Covid-19....imagine if Boeing were to lose out to Airbus in the Chinese market, he couldn't even think straight, his balls shrink to mini pigeon egg-size wa ka ka ka, hence his useless mewling about the separating trade relations from other "human rights" disputes.
ReplyDeleteWhere is that moron that TipuTS had lauded for his 'strategy' for these Gang of Angmoh Robbers to put up a fund to effectively 'shut out' China ? Would these gang of rapacious robbers be able to set up such a fund to the tune of Hundreds of Billions ? But reality bites...see how the Americans unable to resist wolfing up the Chinese orders which left its lapdog Oz in the ditch. Cooperation my foot, hehe. They are like hungry vultures ripping at each other throats. Soon we will see Airbus ripping into Boeing for that huge chunk of Chinese' share if China plays its card well.
China should delay its development of its aviation industry.....its huge market will be its bargaining chip to divide the greedy hungry Anglo wolves.
China has other bigger fish to fry now... see the following posting on China's space program
Why China’s space program could overtake NASA, by Eric Berger, CNN
ReplyDelete( do note this article is from CNN - hence you will see snarky remarks like "China's..mimicking of Western's strengths" and the likes, wa ka ka ka )
"(CNN) China has a good chance of becoming the dominant space power in the 21st century, and it’s not just looking to copy NASA on the way to the top. Instead, the country is paying close attention to what innovative US companies like SpaceX are doing as well. To get ahead in space, communism is learning from capitalism.
In the summer of 2019, a small Chinese rocket launched from an inland spaceport in the southern part of the country. Close-up photos, posted afterward on Chinese social media accounts, showed small grid fins affixed to the upper part of this Long March 2C rocket for the first time. They were virtually identical in design to the grid fins SpaceX uses to steer its Falcon 9 rocket through the atmosphere for landings on its ocean-based drone ships.
A year after this test, China’s main space contractor revealed plans to develop the ability to reuse its Long March 8 booster, which is powered by kerosene fuel, the same type of power that fuels SpaceX rockets. By 2025, Chinese officials said, this rocket would be capable of landing on a sea platform like SpaceX’s Falcon 9 booster.
And it is not just the Chinese government contractors that are emulating SpaceX. A growing number of semi-private Chinese companies have also announced plans to develop reusable rockets. Chinese firms such as LinkSpace and Galactic Energyhave released schematics that seem to mimic SpaceX technology.
None of this should be particularly surprising. Government-launched enterprises in both Russia and Europe also recently revealed plans to develop reusable rockets that are similar both in appearance and function to the Falcon 9 booster. But what makes the Chinese efforts to emulate SpaceX particularly notable is the country’s expansive ambitions in space and its vast resources to back up these long-term goals.
Earlier this month, the Chinese government signed an agreement with Russia to work together to build a Moon base. China has also begun planning to launch crewed missions to Mars and deploy a massive space-based, commercial-scale solar power plant by 2050. They’re playing the long game, and they’re playing to win.
Based on China’s recent accomplishments in space, it would be wise to take these grand ambitions seriously. In December, China became only the third nation to return Moon rocks to Earth. Later this spring, it will seek to join the United States as only the second country to land and operate a rover on the surface of Mars.
All the while, China is racing across a number of other fronts in space, from building an orbital space station to maturing anti-satellite capabilities in space to establishing a base on the moon.
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As China advances in space, NASA has spent more than $20 billion building a large rocket, the Space Launch System, that could soon be obsolete. And flying this single-use rocket is so expensive that, in combination with its Artemis program, NASA could exceed its congressional funds by more than 43%.
ReplyDeleteNASA could also abandon the International Space Station in a few years. Meanwhile, China is training European astronauts and teaching them Chinese so that they might visit its large, modular space station. Some of these European astronauts may subsequently join the China-Russia lunar exploration effort.
Increasingly, the US’ main advantage over China lies in its burgeoning commercial space industry, led by SpaceX. If America wants to compete, it should unleash the full potential of SpaceX and other commercial space companies that seek to go further in space, faster and for less money. This kind of public-private partnership has already worked in low-Earth orbit, with NASA buying services from companies such as SpaceX, Northrop Grumman and Boeing to deliver cargo and astronauts to the International Space Station.
This is one reason why, about five years ago, China began backing dozens of companies to commercialize rockets and satellites. The 21st century space race, therefore, is not so much between China and NASA. Rather, it is between China and the US commercial space industry.
Nearly a decade ago, SpaceX attracted international acclaim when it began to successfully land its Falcon 9 rockets, accomplishing an engineering feat many previously deemed impossible or impractical. While historically rocket boosters have been discarded in the ocean after they expend their fuel on the way to orbit, SpaceX figured out how to land its boosters upright on platforms at sea and on land, allowing the company to recover and refurbish the rockets and save money.
Later, the company strapped three of these Falcon 9 cores together to build a larger and much more powerful rocket, called the Falcon Heavy. And it is now testing an even larger, reusable booster, its Starship vehicle, intended to ferry humans to and from Mars.
In late February, China unveiled strikingly similar space plans. The country’s space agency said it would build a triple core rocket, which looks like a SpaceX Falcon Heavy. And it also confirmed plans to move forward with its titanic Long March 9 rocket, capable of lifting as much as 140 metric tons to low-Earth orbit, the same amount as the Saturn V rocket, an American super heavy-lift launch vehicle that remains the most powerful rocket that has ever flown successfully.
This massive rocket would be unlike anything NASA built, however; Chinese officials, taking a page from the SpaceX playbook, said they would like it to be reusable. And, they added, they aim to one day launch the Long March 9 to take its taikonauts to Mars.
While SpaceX became a transformational space company, the US and China have been locked in an increasingly intense battle for influence and economic resources on Earth. That conflict, which has already emerged in low-Earth orbit, will extend to the Moon and eventually Mars in the coming decades. In the contest for geopolitical influence and economic wealth, space will come to represent the ultimate high ground.
China is definitely going.
For now, the US and NASA have the advantage of a more robust space program and a stronger commercial space industry. But for the last decade, the US commercial space industry has succeeded despite Congress, not because of it. Unless Congress and NASA more closely embrace commercial space and follow a bold plan of exploration, China’s constancy of purpose and mimicking of Western strengths will overcome this head start."
The range of C919 is 2,200 nautical miles, roughly the distance between Beijing and Kashgar, Xinjiang. No need to go further.....ha ha ha...
ReplyDeleteAnother blur-blurred fart from a know-nothing c&p monkey!
DeleteAircraft manufacturers design various types of aircraft based on passenger load, popular range coverage, fuel efficiency & cost of maintenance.
C919 is designed to suit the needs of domestic travelling requirements, which r currently dominated by Boeing737 & Airbus320.
All three has compatible design specifications. So they r equal competitors in the short to medium-haul market.
Yr quoted range of 2200nm is based on CFM International LEAP jet engine. A longer range of 3600nm can be achieved using ACAE CJ-1000A turbofan engine.
However, if the high ended jet engines, CFM56-5B (Airbus320) or CFM56-7B (exclusive to Boeing 737), then the range of C919 can match the top end models of both Airbus & Boeing in their classifications!
But due to US is blocking any high end engine sales for China’s new passenger jet.
Wakakakakaka… just showing that pure kiasu mentality to the nth!