The LGBT issue is particularly a hot sensitive matter, especially for the very religious - mind, not only Muslims as some might have imagined, but actually also Christians and Jews.
Staunch or devoted followers of the 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) have been taught since Day 1 by their respective religion that homosexuality (I will be using this as a generic word for the entire LGBT community) is an abomination in the eyes of God.
Staunch or devoted followers of the 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) have been taught since Day 1 by their respective religion that homosexuality (I will be using this as a generic word for the entire LGBT community) is an abomination in the eyes of God.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination - Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them - Levitcus 20:13 (KJV)
As we can see (just using the Book of Leviticus in the Bible as one example) the Judeo-Christian religions condemn homosexuals to death. I am sure the Quran has an equivalent but I'll leave that for you to find out, wakakaka. But just imagine how devoted Jews, Christians and Muslims would perceive the homosexuals.
And that's precisely what we have been advised to watch out for, by none other than Syahredzan Johan, political secretary to DAP adviser Lim Kit Siang.
Syahredzan is a great guy so do read his article in the MM Online's Most Malays didn’t vote for you, Kit Siang’s aide tells Pakatan in which he highlighted 3 important points for Pakatan people to consider vis-a-vis the LGBT issue, namely:
(a) The majority of Malays did not vote for PH,
(b) Those who voted for PH did not do so because they want Malaysia to be more ‘progressive’, and
(c) In Umno and PAS, we have two far right opposition parties now pushing the conservative agenda.
Thus, what he has been saying is to be careful of the still very conservative Malay electorate when it comes to liberal policies regarding the LGBT issue. That is, if you still want their votes in GE15.
Back to the good olde Bible - Then of course there is the biblical horror story of Sodom and Gomorrah, both of which were allegedly destroyed by their Israelite god for their abominable sins of 'suka-masuk-belakang', from where came the word which Malaysian have been most familiar with, namely, Sodomy, Sodomite and Sodomiser (though the last is more used by Continental Europe).
Hmmm, tell me why the word Gomorrah hasn't been used, eg. Gomorrahiser? Wakakaka. But the Arabs have the word 'liwat' which came from the name 'Lot' (of Sodom and Gomorrah) or more precisely the 'people of Lot' (meaning the annihilated residents of those sinful towns).
And that's precisely what we have been advised to watch out for, by none other than Syahredzan Johan, political secretary to DAP adviser Lim Kit Siang.
Syahredzan is a great guy so do read his article in the MM Online's Most Malays didn’t vote for you, Kit Siang’s aide tells Pakatan in which he highlighted 3 important points for Pakatan people to consider vis-a-vis the LGBT issue, namely:
(a) The majority of Malays did not vote for PH,
(b) Those who voted for PH did not do so because they want Malaysia to be more ‘progressive’, and
(c) In Umno and PAS, we have two far right opposition parties now pushing the conservative agenda.
Thus, what he has been saying is to be careful of the still very conservative Malay electorate when it comes to liberal policies regarding the LGBT issue. That is, if you still want their votes in GE15.
Back to the good olde Bible - Then of course there is the biblical horror story of Sodom and Gomorrah, both of which were allegedly destroyed by their Israelite god for their abominable sins of 'suka-masuk-belakang', from where came the word which Malaysian have been most familiar with, namely, Sodomy, Sodomite and Sodomiser (though the last is more used by Continental Europe).
Hmmm, tell me why the word Gomorrah hasn't been used, eg. Gomorrahiser? Wakakaka. But the Arabs have the word 'liwat' which came from the name 'Lot' (of Sodom and Gomorrah) or more precisely the 'people of Lot' (meaning the annihilated residents of those sinful towns).
But mind you, do NOT believe in the story of the Battle of Gibeah, also all about their residents' sinful love of homosexuality, which modern biblical scholars discovered probably happened about 300 years later when King David murdered King Saul and butchered the latter's entire family, and nearly decimated most of the clan of Benjaminites (from the House of Benjamin).
Battle of Gibeah massacre of Benjaminites by Judeans |
Their murderers the Judeans (King David's tribe of the House of Judah) fabricated the story of the Battle of Gibeah (cloned from Sodom and Gomorrah story) and transposed it 300 years earlier, to demonise their mortal enemies Benjaminites as sodomites since 300 years earlier.
But then you have to question if the Benjaminites were so awful, why was it that 300 years later, the people of the 12 Houses or tribes of Israel chose a Benjaminite as their first king, namely, King Saul from the House of Benjamin. So we can see, thanks to modern-day biblical scholars, fake news existed even during King David's days.
And ironically, one of the best known story of homosexuality was that of King David (Dawid) himself and his lover, Jonathan (Yehonatan) the son of King Saul.
18 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
But then you have to question if the Benjaminites were so awful, why was it that 300 years later, the people of the 12 Houses or tribes of Israel chose a Benjaminite as their first king, namely, King Saul from the House of Benjamin. So we can see, thanks to modern-day biblical scholars, fake news existed even during King David's days.
And ironically, one of the best known story of homosexuality was that of King David (Dawid) himself and his lover, Jonathan (Yehonatan) the son of King Saul.
18 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.
2 And Saul took him that day, and would let him go no more home to his father's house.
3 Then Jonathan and David made a covenant, because he loved him as his own soul.
4 And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.
- 1 Samuel 18:1-4 (KJV)
What an irony that King David himself, hero of the Israelites and even modern day Jews, and Beloved of God, was himself a homosexual or more probably, a bisexual (semua pun 'makan' kaukau).
Should the clerics of the Abrahamic religions then continue to condemn the LGBT community even until today when their greatest religious warrior was a LGBT?
Well, god has not failed but certainly it disproves the bullshit of clerics who have been having a hard time for millenniums trying to spin away King David's evil, homosexuality, treachery to his nation, adultery, murders, etc etc etc. And David was/is claimed as the so-called Beloved of God.
It's actually the LGBT community who are the Beloved of God, for they have been His creation (if not, whose then?).
See also MM Online - LGBT rights not connected to religion, says DAP MP:
KUALA LUMPUR, July 9 — The rights of lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders (LBGT) have nothing to do with religion, Klang MP Charles Santiago said today.
The DAP lawmaker said that his press statement showing solidarity with pro-LGBT campaigner Numan Afifi Saadan, who has since resigned as Youth and Sports Minister Syed Saddiq Abdul Rahman’s press aide, is in line with Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that states all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
“Unfortunately, many people have twisted my statement into a religious matter, calling me derogatory names. The demeaning name-calling and subtle threats are the same that the LGBT community endures in the country and in their homes,” Charles said in a statement.
He countered allegations that he was anti-Islam, pointed out that he fought “tooth and nail” for Rohingya Muslims to obtain citizenship rights, condemned their persecution by the Burmese government, and led a delegation of Asean parliamentarians to refugee camps in Bangladesh on a fact-finding mission.
“The government has a duty to protect the rights of all citizens irrespective of their sexuality and gender identity. But laws that work against the rights of the minority community create obstacles for the government to do so,” Charles said.
He called upon the government to decriminalise homosexuality and repeal all laws discriminating against the LGBT community.
“In asking for decriminalisation, I advocate for the safeguarding of the civil liberties of this minority group,” Charles said.
He stressed the need to be inclusive, embrace diversity, and respect those who are different from the majority.
“We need to understand that everyone has a right to live in an environment that is free from fear and hatred. As the celebrated Indian poet and writer Rabindranath Tagore said, let my country awake to that heaven of freedom,” said Charles.
Numan, who has publicly advocated for LGBT rights, announced his resignation from Syed Saddiq’s office today amid controversy surrounding his purported appointment.
The Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (PPBM) lawmaker said in response that he respected Numan’s decision and that Numan would “always be a bro”.
See also MM Online - LGBT rights not connected to religion, says DAP MP:
KUALA LUMPUR, July 9 — The rights of lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders (LBGT) have nothing to do with religion, Klang MP Charles Santiago said today.
The DAP lawmaker said that his press statement showing solidarity with pro-LGBT campaigner Numan Afifi Saadan, who has since resigned as Youth and Sports Minister Syed Saddiq Abdul Rahman’s press aide, is in line with Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that states all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.
“Unfortunately, many people have twisted my statement into a religious matter, calling me derogatory names. The demeaning name-calling and subtle threats are the same that the LGBT community endures in the country and in their homes,” Charles said in a statement.
He countered allegations that he was anti-Islam, pointed out that he fought “tooth and nail” for Rohingya Muslims to obtain citizenship rights, condemned their persecution by the Burmese government, and led a delegation of Asean parliamentarians to refugee camps in Bangladesh on a fact-finding mission.
“The government has a duty to protect the rights of all citizens irrespective of their sexuality and gender identity. But laws that work against the rights of the minority community create obstacles for the government to do so,” Charles said.
He called upon the government to decriminalise homosexuality and repeal all laws discriminating against the LGBT community.
“In asking for decriminalisation, I advocate for the safeguarding of the civil liberties of this minority group,” Charles said.
He stressed the need to be inclusive, embrace diversity, and respect those who are different from the majority.
“We need to understand that everyone has a right to live in an environment that is free from fear and hatred. As the celebrated Indian poet and writer Rabindranath Tagore said, let my country awake to that heaven of freedom,” said Charles.
Numan, who has publicly advocated for LGBT rights, announced his resignation from Syed Saddiq’s office today amid controversy surrounding his purported appointment.
The Parti Pribumi Bersatu Malaysia (PPBM) lawmaker said in response that he respected Numan’s decision and that Numan would “always be a bro”.
The Malaysian Constitution does not recognise any creature called "Transgender".
ReplyDeleteThere is either a Man or a Woman.
all malaysians are men and women. transgender only describes an individual sense of personal identity and gender, which in his/her own perception does not correspond with the birth sex
DeleteCan you talk about atheism and relating to your fucking issue? You know nuts about god. Dont be a fuckig kapoochee....
ReplyDeleteCheebye motherfucker kaytee....capiche!
I can but I want to clarify something first, I did NOT shack your mum, so I am not your dad and I want you to stop hanging onto my cock
Deletewakakaka.
DeleteKaytee cock is only 3 inches long
Deleteyou keep holding on to 6 inches with both your hands, thus only 3 inches are showing - told you I am NOT your papa so stop clinging to my cock
DeleteI have to disagree with you: David and Jonathan were not lovers. They were very good friends. Jonathan got a son, Mephibosheth, whom David took good care after Jonathan's death.
ReplyDeletethe Houses of Judah and Benjamin were sworn enemies because King David murdered King Saul - the entire Saulite dynasty was eliminated by King David. His descendants the Judeans (House of Judah) were the main authors of the Bible though there were non-Judean authors as well but in teh minority
DeleteYou christian or atheist? Use atheist text lei? Cheebye motherfucker kaytee
Deleteaiyoh, I keep telling you I did NOT fCk your mother yet you continue to say I did. Probably someone else did, thus you are NOT my son but someone's - juts look at your ugly self, how could you ever be my progeny
DeletePity those who are born LGBT. They should be cursing God for them to be born and hence God's mistake in his creation.
ReplyDeleteSo why do LGBTs still believe in GOD since all the clerics and preachers condemn them to HELL for God's mistakes?
Don't they have the right to live peacefully like others?
So, why do Malaysians still love LBGTs shows from Thailand?
It's just pure religious hypocrisy by clerics and preachers quoting some nice fairytales thousands of years ago.
Is there any difference between born handicapped and lgbt (not by choice)? vs men marrying underaged girls.
ReplyDeleteif you're religious (unlike me, wakakaka) then the handicap and the LGBT have been the creations of god.
DeleteMiddle age men marrying teeny weeny lil' girls did/do that for their own human requirements
Wow!
DeleteTheir own human requirements.
R u giving excuse for pedophile?
if you are unable to interpret what I've written, you have proven to me once again your poor comprehension of English.
DeleteNonetheless, let me humour you - isn't wanting to fCk a lil girl a man's "own human requirement"?
I dont wanna know what cheebye kaytee is saying until kaytee reveal his identity in public. Whatever cheebye kaytee says are meaningless.
DeleteIf i can shut the blog down and torture kaytee, i would be honoured
your constant reference to the female genital proved that you have been severely traumatised by Pauline abusing you with her outrageous incessant demands for your tongue-services
DeleteI interpret yr CLEAR excuse for peodophiles as "wanting to fCk a lil girl a man's "own human requirement"".
DeleteU say it too!
Perhaps deep down u too have a pedophilic dream - hence the perverted excuse lah.
Hehehe.....why hor....ask yourself kaytee...
DeletePatrick teoh, st michael boy loves to use this term. He told me so. He loves to use it on people like you cheebye motherfucker kaytee
I find extraordinarily difficult to follow your reasoning in English
Deleteabove for CK
Deleteas for you looes, aiyoh, I keep telling you I did NOT fCk your mother yet you continue to say I did. Probably someone else did, thus you are NOT my son but someone's - juts look at your ugly self, how could you ever be my progeny
Yet I can follow yr twisted wordplays w/o problem!
DeleteCan we then communicate in, perhaps, our (yours??) common tongue to get the REAL reasoning through?
But…… what's the mother tongue of a banana as defined academically!
Wakakakaka… is that why anmokauxai likes to parade his/her pommie linguistics skill as if the English words come out naturally?
Didn't someone saying something like:
"What I’ve learned after twenty-some years of speaking both languages is that it’s very American to say things aloud. And it’s very Chinese to feel them quietly."
The wannabe anmokauxai has definitrly lost that feel lah!
Hence, the white noises in the frequency of communication!
Wakakakakaka……
Confused??
Blame Noam Chomsky!
And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We did bestow on some prophets more (and other) gifts than on others: and We gave to David (the gift of) the Psalms. ~ Quran 17:55
ReplyDeleteIf David was so cruel and bad, I wonder why did Allah gave him the Psalms (Zabur)?
many of the psalms were written by other men, whilst one originated from Egypt (scholars traced its pedigree), during the times of the Pharaohs (no, not Mahafiraun, wakakaka) - yes, David did pen some but only some. I don't know much about the Quran
DeleteWhy do we refer and quote Bible passages about what people / God did to LGBT people thousands of years ago but we chastise Muslims who refer and quote the Quran and Hadith about child marriages from 1,400 years ago.
ReplyDeletewe refer and quote Bible passages about what people / God did to LGBT people to show it's all clerics' bullshit. God wasn't involved in any religious text
DeleteIn the cross, sodomites will be punished but incest is hailed. Check out the continuation story of Lot after fall of Sodom and Gomorrah.
ReplyDeletethe incests could be fabrications by Jacob and his children to demon-ise his cousin Lot's people - scholars are probing into this
DeleteIt is standard human behaviour to persecute anyone who differ from themselves. This can include race, religion, colour, gender, political affiliation, sexual inclination etc.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that religion also condones this simply reflects its human origin i.e IF humans are full of sh*t, it is inevitable the religions they create will be full of it too.
Including atheists like that motherfucker cheebye kaytee.
DeleteStalin and mao are atheists remember. Hence why i hate this kaytee mock and he must die for his sins.....hahahaha
"Syahredzan is a great guy so do read his article in the MM Online's Most Malays didn’t vote for you, Kit Siang’s aide tells Pakatan in which he highlighted 3 important points for Pakatan people to consider vis-a-vis the LGBT issue, namely:
ReplyDelete(a) The majority of Malays did not vote for PH,
(b) Those who voted for PH did not do so because they want Malaysia to be more ‘progressive’, and
(c) In Umno and PAS, we have two far right opposition parties now pushing the conservative agenda."
Not only as far as LGBT issue. The conservatives will mengamuk if any of the other sacred cows are perceived to be sidelined - Bahasa Melayu, Islam, Ketuanan Melayu, among others.
Syahredzan went on to say..."it is “easier to change government” than to change “mindsets, cultures and deep seated prejudices”.
So when we opined that Dr M refused to send Zakir Naik back to India because he has to be mindful that 70% of the Malays voted for Umno/Pas and he has to show that PH is not anti Islam, this hypocrite Ktemoc got all bristled up and trotted out his usual accusation "dedak makan-er" ! Just because we said it here, just because he so hated Dr M ! But if it was said by the civil rights lawyer, saying the very same thing, then he is a great guy ( which he is, btw ), wakakakkaka. Podah la you, talam dua muka !
Kaytee is that devil who quote scripture and leave out the true meaning.
DeleteJj,
In time of war, i will shoot kaytee dead first. By now, we know kaytee true mission. Hence time to mock him and take a piss on him