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Sunday, September 03, 2017

Perennial KL flood problem

Star Online - Jalan Kuching hit by flash flood after evening downpour:


Even after 20 years in Australia, I am sad to see some rotten things in KL hasn't changed, despite all the much touted new flood-relief drainage system (some at expense of a few Hindu shrines in town).


11 comments:

  1. Don't worry mate! Malaysia will solve all these flash flood problems once the GAHMEN implements the King Canute Virtual No Flood Virtualised Cloud-Computing-Based Big Data Analytics Flood Hold Back System.

    The system is being developed in the Moribund Super Corridor, with plans to deploy the system before Malaysia magically becomes a developed nation by proclamation in the year 2020.

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    1. U r talking about that infamous SMART that is supposedly to solve the flash flood problems of kl, then part of kl, then only that part of kl linked to the SMART system!!!

      There r many 'geniuses' in milking moola than solving the perennial flash floods of kl.

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    2. CK, you wrote:-

      "U r talking about that infamous SMART that is supposedly to solve the flash flood problems of kl,..."

      I was actually just being sarcastic about the use of IT in Malaysia. Despite its limited effectiveness, SMART is a physical drainage channel.

      The "King Canute Virtual No Flood Virtualised Cloud-Computing-Based Big Data Analytics Flood Hold Back System" is just my satirical IT-based system which monitors or predicts the likelihood of flash floods and informs people but otherwise there is no physical infrastructure or physical intervention.

      It's like ITIS (Integrated Traffic Information System) wit electronic signboards over certain roads which tells you that you are stuck in a traffic jam when you already know that you are stuck in a traffic jam or lets you check up on the condition of traffic on roads via website or smartphone so you can take an alternate route. However it appears that traffic jam information provided by ITIS has not been used to design real-world solutions to address the perennial traffic jam problem since ITIS went live in 2005.

      Also, another example of this IT nonsense is 1Bestarinet which I blogged about over here:-

      http://itsheiss.blogspot.my/2015/10/teachers-union-says-1bestarinet-useless.html

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    3. No, SMART is NOT a physical drainage channel.

      There were electronic monitoring devices that detected the water level at key points & fed that data to a central control system that then closed the traffic tunnel & channelled the excess water via the tunnel to several outlaying retaining ponds.

      Now, SMART is only a tolled road, the whole other IT-linked monitoring system is in kaput. Just like many elevators in public flats, elevated pedestrian cross bridges & 'modern' pasars - put to show while jerk up the contract price, then let to rot.

      Meanwhile those retention ponds/areas have become mega billions housing projects in private hands!

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  2. Flash floods are happening all over main cities and towns in Malaysia.If these floods are happening in urban areas,god have mercy on those living in rural areas.

    Nowadays flesh floods are happening in many countries.Clogged drains,especially the wide monsoon drains where uneducated people,which there are many around throw their household garbage and even old discarded furniture into them.

    But these flesh floods nothing can be compared to the floods in Texas and Louisiana caused by hurricane Harvey.But the mentally unstable horndog,Donald Trump still do not believe in climate change.Maybe this latest natural disaster might change this fucked up pariah's attitude.

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    1. I love your Trump-istic knowledge wakakaka

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    2. Quite frankly Bruno, it's true that flash floods are happening all over Malaysia and in other countries but despite all the talk by the government, what is being done to solve the problem, including to prosecute those people who throw rubbish into drains which clog them.

      Do a Google search on "1971 great flood of Kuala Lumpur"

      Here are some results.
      https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2157332/all

      I had just moved to Petaling Jaya at the time and recall five days and five nights on continuous very light drizzle, so light that I walked around without an umbrella.

      However, after five days, Kuala Lumpur was flooded and I understand that the water level rose to the first floor of the Suleiman Building where Kuala Lumpur's iconic clock tower is and people had to be rescued by boats.

      I number of people elsewhere in the city also drowned.

      I later understood that the flood was due to silting of the two rivers due to erosion of soil which cleared for "development", coupled with bridge culverts which were too small.

      Whilst the rivers were dreged and the narrow culverts widened, the problem of silting has never been quite resolved. Jalan Kuching which was flooded is just beside the river and so is Jalan Raja Laut.

      In November last year, I was headed to Puchong and there was a flash flood on the LDP in front of the IOI Mall.

      http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2016/11/17/ioi-mall-wants-flood-woes-solved/

      The Subang Jaya Municipal Council comes under the Selangor State government, so it looks like whether we have a Pakatan or BN government in charge, flash floods still happen and whatever measures are taken to try to address the problem, it is never enough.

      I guess this is a Malaysian problem. Malaysia Boleh!

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    3. azmin too busy talking with (or sucking) PAS

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  3. For my good friend HY… musical interlude! Have a pleasant Sunday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68PJW15iJSw

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    1. xiexie n ditto. perhaps u shd forward the link to pg govt as well wakaka.

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  4. I understand that folllowing pilot trials of the King Canute Virtual No Flood Virtualised Cloud-Computing-Based Big Data Analytics Flood Hold Back System in the Klang Valley, the GAHMEN will then implement it in Penang island to address the flash flood problem there, then later on mainland Penang.

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