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Why Saudi Arabia won’t normalise with Israel despite Trump’s optimistic claims





Why Saudi Arabia won’t normalise with Israel despite Trump’s optimistic claims



A billboard by the ‘Coalition for Regional Security’ Israeli political-security initiative with the Hebrew slogan ‘a time for war, a time for settlement; now is the time for the “Abrahamic Covenant”’ is displayed in Tel Aviv on June 26, 2025. — AFP pic

Sunday, 09 Nov 2025 9:00 PM MYT


DUBAI, Nov 9 — US President Donald Trump has been talking up the prospects of Saudi Arabia agreeing to normalise ties with Israel, but it is unlikely to happen when Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman visits the White House this month.

The establishment of diplomatic relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia after decades of enmity could shake up the political and security landscape in the Middle East, potentially strengthening US influence in the region.


Trump said last month he hoped Saudi Arabia would “very soon” join other Muslim countries that signed the 2020 Abraham Accords normalising ties with Israel.

But Riyadh has signalled to Washington through diplomatic channels that its position has not changed: it will sign up only if there is agreement on a roadmap to Palestinian statehood, two Gulf sources told Reuters.


The intention is to avoid diplomatic missteps and ensure alignment of the Saudi and US positions before any public statements are made, they said. One said the aim was to avoid any confusion at or after the White House talks on November 18.


The Crown Prince, widely known as MbS, “is not likely to entertain any possible formalising of ties in the near future without at least a credible pathway to a Palestinian state,” said Jonathan Panikoff, former deputy US national intelligence officer on the Middle East.

MbS is likely to try to use his influence with Trump to seek “more explicit and vocal buy-in for the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state,” said Panikoff, who is now at the Atlantic Council think tank in Washington.


Trump’s upbeat comments on Abraham Accords

Next week’s visit is the Crown Prince’s first to Washington since the 2018 killing of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, an MbS critic whose murder in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul caused global outrage. MbS denied direct involvement.

The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Morocco have already normalised ties with Israel under the Abraham Accords, and Trump has said he expects an expansion of the accords soon.

“We have a lot of people joining now the Abraham Accords, and hopefully we’re going to get Saudi Arabia very soon,” he said on November 5, without offering a timeline.

In a television interview broadcast on October 17, he said: “I hope to see Saudi Arabia go in, and I hope to see others go in. I think when Saudi Arabia goes in, everybody goes in.”

But the agreement signed by the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Morocco sidestepped the issue of Palestinian statehood.

The two Gulf sources said Riyadh had signalled to Washington that any move to recognise Israel must be part of a new framework, not just an extension of any deal.

For Saudi Arabia – the birthplace of Islam and custodian of its two holiest sites, Mecca and Medina – recognising Israel would be more than just a diplomatic milestone. It is a deeply sensitive national security issue tied to resolving one of the region’s oldest and most intractable conflicts.

Such a step would be hard to take when Arab public mistrust of Israel remains high over the scale of its military offensive during the war against the Palestinian militant group Hamas in Gaza, despite a fragile ceasefire in the conflict that followed the Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023.

Saudi Foreign Ministry official Manal Radwan has called for a clear, time-bound Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, the deployment of an international protection force and the empowerment and return of the Palestinian Authority to Gaza.

These steps, she said, are essential to the establishment of a Palestinian state – the prerequisite for regional integration and the implementation of the two-state solution.

With Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu staunchly opposed to Palestinian statehood, Saudi Arabia sees no immediate prospect to satisfy Trump’s demand that it normalise ties with Israel, the sources told Reuters.

Progress on that front depends on concessions neither Washington nor Israel is currently prepared to make, Saudi officials say.

Trump and crown prince set to seal defence pact

Saudi officials are intent on steering the Trump-MbS meeting towards defence cooperation and investment, wary that the politically charged issue of normalisation of ties with Israel could overshadow the agenda.

The meeting is expected to seal a pivotal defence pact defining the scope of US military protection for the de facto ruler of the world’s top oil exporter, and to cement America’s military footprint in the Gulf.

The prospective deal has, however, been scaled back.

Two other Gulf sources and three Western diplomats said the defence deal falls short of the full, Congress-ratified treaty Riyadh once sought in exchange for the long-promised normalisation of ties with Israel.

The agreement, loosely modelled on an arrangement with Qatar that was established through an executive order in September, expands cooperation to include cutting-edge technology and defence.

Riyadh, according to the two Gulf sources, pushed for provisions to allow future US administrations to elevate the pact to a full treaty – a safeguard to ensure continuity for a non-binding pact, vulnerable to reversal by future presidents.

“It’s not the treaty they want, they might not see it as perfect but it’s a stepping stone (to a full treaty),” said David Makovsky, a fellow at the Washington Institute, where he directs a project on Arab-Israeli relations.

The linkage between the defence pact, normalisation with Israel and Palestinian statehood has produced a complex negotiating equation, pushing Riyadh and Washington to settle for a limited defence deal in the absence of progress on the other two tracks, the Gulf sources and Western diplomats said.

That compromise, they say, could eventually evolve into a full treaty if normalisation advances.

“The Saudi-American negotiations have undergone a fundamental shift in environment and context following the developments in Gaza since October 7,” said Abdelaziz al-Sagher, head of the Saudi-based Gulf Research Institute think tank.

He said the direct linkage between normalisation of ties with Israel and Palestinian statehood remained, but Riyadh now wanted Saudi national security requirements addressed separately.

“The Saudi position is clear: meeting the Kingdom’s national security demands will help shape its broader stance on regional issues, including the resolution of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict,” he said.

Threat from Iran receding


A NATO-style defence pact appears a distant prospect, given the shifting regional calculus and the political hurdles in Washington.

Iran, the main threat once driving Riyadh’s pursuit of binding US guarantees, has been strategically weakened over the past year by Israeli strikes on its nuclear and military infrastructure.

Tehran’s proxies – the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza and the Houthis in Yemen – have also suffered heavy blows.

With pressure from Iran easing, the appetite for a treaty requiring two-thirds congressional approval has diminished, especially in the absence of normalisation with Israel.

The two Gulf sources said such a pact would likely come with conditions, including curbs on Saudi Arabia’s expanding economic and technology ties with China, complicating Riyadh’s drive to balance strategic autonomy with US security guarantees.

The current deal would expand joint military exercises, deepen cooperation between US and Saudi defence firms, and include safeguards to limit Riyadh’s military-industrial ties with China, the sources said.

It would also fast-track advanced US weapons sales to the kingdom, bypassing the delays and political hurdles that have stalled previous deals. — Reuters

32 comments:

  1. November 9-10, 1938
    Isaacs commemorate Kristallnacht (Night of the Broken Glass), the November pogroms, a prelude to Hitler's Final Solution.

    NEVER AGAIN.

    Martin Niemoller:
    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

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    1. never AGAIN!

      Yet the hatred for the zionists couldn't be extinguished.

      Mfer, have u ever wondering WHY?

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  2. MBS is well aware that Saudi post-oil survival national plan seriously needs cooperation with Israel, leveraging on Israeli tech prowess.
    But the Arab Street, both within Saudi and innthr wider Middle East severely reject any cooperation with Israel

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    1. wakakakakaka…

      'Saudi post-oil survival national plan seriously needs cooperation with Israel, leveraging on Israeli tech prowess'

      what an inconsequential fart!

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    2. When Saudi oil runs out there is always Venezuela - their oil reserves are even bigger than Saudi and Russia. But need to get rid of Maduro first and put in a pliant Machado. Trump working on it.

      Guyana next door has more too.

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  3. Saudis know this fact on Nobel Prize Statistics.

    https://x.com/CptAllenHistory/status/1968734049884610882?s=20

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    1. bloke is Lawyer & Historian with Passion for Jewish History/Identity Seeking to Empower Jews and the Curious from all Backgrounds with Knowledge and Analytical Skills

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  4. The BBC was forced to make 215 corrections in the last two years over the coverage by its BBC Arabic arm (funded through our licence fee) of the Gaza conflict, The Telegraph reports.
    Why is this not the least surprising?

    https://x.com/kelvmackenzie/status/1987559393894760528?s=20

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    1. least surprising?

      Up on ur zionist wet dream

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  5. Another Biased Media is Reuters. Some editor quickly converted "terrorists" to "civilians". The narrative is changed - Isaac is now the terrorist, not Harmass.

    Reuters this morning: “200 Hamas terrorists are stuck in tunnels.”

    Reuters 12 hours later: “Turkey seeks to save 200 civilians in Gaza tunnels.”

    Reuters literally reported that they were terrorists already and yet calls them civilians. Orwellian.

    https://x.com/EYakoby/status/1987716099656356065?s=20

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  6. Another example of Gazawood. Look at the two pictures, one of the little girl scavenging for food, the other showing the cameras behind her...they will soon transmit their pictures to BBC (British Bullshit Corporation) to blast worldwide and the Gullible Guppies Will Swallow Yum Yum.

    https://x.com/HamasAtrocities/status/1987793066510500003?s=20

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  7. BBC (British Bullshit Corporation) Bias pushed Harmass Lies Around The World. Leaked Dossier says corporations Arabic Service boosted terror group's claims and minimised Israeli suffering - The Telegraph

    https://x.com/EYakoby/status/1987694119540388308?s=20

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  8. As Expected The Guardian of The Truth Jumps to Defend BBC:

    "The BBC is facing a coordinated, politically motivated attack. With these resignations, it has given in. The corporation should have stood up to the Telegraph, Trump and the Tories. Now, its enemies know how little it takes for it to fold"
    Jane Martinson

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/09/bbc-attack-trump-telegraph-tories-tim-davie-resignation

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  9. https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1987764437978165357?s=20

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    1. Eylon Levy
      @EylonALevy
      Former Spokesman for the State of Israel 🇮🇱

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  10. Over two years Harmass' Ministry of Health reported that Isaacs killed 67,000 Gaza civilians, half of them babies and children. IDF did not manage to kill a single Harmass combatant. Every single bom and bullet they fired missed the target. They are the most useless military ever.

    BBC, Al Jezebel etc blasted this lie worldwide.

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  11. Not a single UN Resolution to condemn Turkey for Occupation of Cyprus or Syria. Why? No Isaacs involved.

    But Turkey talk big, condemn Isaac, issue arrest warrant for Netanyahu...

    🇹🇷 Turkey also occupies 3,355 square kilometres of Cyprus - illegally holding European Union territory under foreign military control, in ongoing violation of the UN Charter and international and European law.

    🇹🇷 Turkey effectively occupies 28,000 square kilometres of Syria, making it by far the largest occupier of Arab territories in the world.

    https://x.com/avavidan/status/1987248597671551252?s=20

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    1. Resolution 550 (1984) and Resolution 541 (1983)

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    2. From 40 years ago? Ha3 many of The people who voted already died.

      Isaac has more than 100 resolutions against it since 2010.

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    3. didn't you say "Not a single UN Resolution to condemn Turkey for Occupation of Cyprus" - shows you have been kerbau-ing recklessly, wakakaka

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  12. Turkey told Hamas not to hand over the body of Hadar Goldin until Israel guaranteed the safe passage of Hamas terrorists trapped in Rafah tunnels, reports @N12News.

    Thankfully, American and Israeli pressure won out.

    Turkey isn't a neutral party; it's a state sponsor of Hamas.

    https://x.com/israelwarroom/status/1987646797800505572?s=46

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  13. BREAKING🚨

    Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz tells @RTErdogan that Turkey will only see Gaza through binoculars and that Israel is a lot stronger & unafraid of 🇹🇷

    Reminder: Turkey illegally occupies Cyprus since 1974 but wants to be part of the security of Gaza. What a joke

    https://x.com/theocharoush/status/1987578482616901946?s=46

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    1. Turkey is part of the ottoman empire that ruled Levant. They have more relevancy to that claim than a bunch of europe rejected zionists, mfer

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  14. The Iranian regime is pretty much saying that they have thousands of new ballistic missiles, better than the previous ones.

    They say that they are rebuilding their nuclear capabilities too.

    All of this while Tehran is on the verge of dying of thirst.

    The people can just drink missile dust if they are thirsty right?

    The people must pray for rain while all of the countries money is spent on missiles instead of water saving technology and infrastructure.

    For the regime it's more important to build missiles and nukes to destroy the Jews and America than it is to supply water to the Iranian people.

    https://x.com/israelnewspulse/status/1987617683773231391?s=46

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    1. x.com/israelnewspulse - your usual source??? wakakaka

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  15. So now we know why the IDF failed to kill a single Harmass terrorist in 2 years of fighting. Only civilians. Won’t surprise me if these 200 become children.

    Sky News claims 200 civilians are trapped in Hamas tunnels in Israeli-controlled parts of Gaza.

    Sky News knows civilians aren’t allowed into Hamas’ tunnels

    These 200 men are the Hamas terrorists whose fate has been negotiated for days now, but Sky News pretends not to know.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1987800672369275041?s=46

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    1. 'civilians aren’t allowed into Hamas’ tunnels'

      say u, right, mfer

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  16. The Return of the Jedi (Shah)? Ha3

    🚨🚨🇮🇷 FROM INTEL SOURCES: Iran's President Masoud Pezeshkian is set to announce his resignation in the coming days amid mounting chaos!
    Our insiders say the government's total collapse is imminent, sparking massive protests that could finally topple the regime. With crippling water & electricity shortages hitting hard, plus an economic crisis that's got people starving in the streets; this is the endgame.

    https://x.com/terror_alarm/status/1987540427528863781?s=46

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  17. British Bullshit Corp Senior editor refuses to admit huge blunder on Gaza hospital report.

    https://x.com/spencerguard/status/1987918397363912738?s=46

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    1. Black is white, white is black - all up to yr mfering selectivity!

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