tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post7972037678317839886..comments2024-03-28T22:45:25.910+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Problems for Anwar Ibrahim in Permatang Pauh?KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-7573412400242195252008-08-25T19:00:00.000+08:002008-08-25T19:00:00.000+08:00Thanks kitty I guess loo wanted it way sort of cha...Thanks kitty <BR/>I guess loo wanted it way sort of challenge them to a duel . Can't blame him always like that . <BR/><BR/>As for me I respect other peoples view , like yours for example , and if I can answer them , I try too also give you my view point .Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-1960126925716480142008-08-25T18:06:00.000+08:002008-08-25T18:06:00.000+08:00Chaptokam,Loo Seow Pek was practically asking to b...Chaptokam,<BR/>Loo Seow Pek was practically asking to be savaged in Susan's blog, the way he has been deliberately picking on other posters, instead of commenting on the post subject.<BR/><BR/>There ARE pro-establishment posters on Susan's blog who get a decent hearing, if they don't try to behave like a Mat Rempit or Cyber trooper.Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05482725674818312298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-61034346535195706192008-08-25T15:49:00.000+08:002008-08-25T15:49:00.000+08:00ang wahwell said ,loo seow pek was attacked from a...ang wah<BR/><BR/>well said ,loo seow pek was attacked from all sides in Susan's blog . Imagine all sorts of vulgarities was thrown at him by nothing less than ten commentators . He stood and fight them ( the anwaristas )single handedly . That is the kind of people we find today . People who cannot debate intelligently without emotions . Probably this could be attributed to the facts that these commentators are school children using some internet cafe to do their postings hence their use of vulgarities and no substance in debate . For those able to post good comments they are intellectuals and these are the people I respect .loo seow pek's username was also impersonated yesterday ! in the article Blatant corruption in P Pauh in Susan Loone . See for yourself !how low these people can go !Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-50882136172811305832008-08-25T15:34:00.000+08:002008-08-25T15:34:00.000+08:00putar belitYou have correctly analyse the fact tha...putar belit<BR/><BR/>You have correctly analyse the fact that if a superior asked you to witness the ceremony , you have to do your duty , nothing wrong with that !<BR/>Before this came out he was cursed , called all sorts of names ,called a BN and UMNO dog etc .<BR/><BR/>Ramlang also revealed that he was only instructed to witness the ceremony by his superiors.<BR/><BR/>"I also wish to deny that I received any money to witness the swearing. I was only acting on instructions," said Ramlang<BR/><BR/>Well it proves that he was not paid by BN or UMNO to witness the swearing .<BR/><BR/>And he has to explain the matter to protect the role of the mosques and the institution.<BR/><BR/>He is indeed a righteous guy .<BR/><BR/>"It is a political conspiracy by Umno to use religion to save themselves. <BR/><BR/>What conpiracy ? Everything here is a conspiracy ! Including the arrest of the two Perak exco s ?<BR/>In the first place why are they discussing that in a hotel ? So BN paid them to discuss that in a hotel !When they were arrested by the ACA , they shifted the blame to Tajol Rosli the former Perak MB . If they have nothing to hide ,what can Tajol Rosli do ? What can the ACA do ? Oh yes this is another conspiracy ! To be caught !<BR/><BR/>But surprising Big News like this , nothing written in Susan Loone !<BR/><BR/>When the guys who were arrested by the polis for assaulting the two photographers also nothing in those blogs . When the photographers were assaulted , The conspiracy theory were that they were BN people pretending to be PKR people who assaulted them , next they were saying they were agent provocaters by BN , not to be left out , were they were Special Branch operatives . Now that they have been caught and found that they were indeed PKR members , Divisional heads of PKR , suddenly very quite , even if a hornet were to sting them , also no sound from them . <BR/><BR/>Back to the swearing thing , the main thing is not the imam witnessing the ceremony , whether senior or junior or chief imam is not the issue . Whether the imam is an UMNO or PKR member is also not the issue . That was just a procedure that someone from the mosque must be around to witness .<BR/>As for the text , whether it is written by him or written by someone is inmaterial . It is still a text . If I were him I would have done the same thing , have it all written down what I want say , just in case I said the wrong thing or missed out certain things as this is a sumpah laknat between him and god .<BR/><BR/>But the most important factor is that he swore with a Koran and inside a mosque . Whether I am a muslim or not , I believe NO sane person would hold a religious book and swore something that is not true in a religious place .<BR/>Therefore I believe him NOT the guy who has until today dared not repeat what that young man has done .Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-45748883662339415572008-08-25T13:42:00.000+08:002008-08-25T13:42:00.000+08:00Hi Ang Wah,Exactly,I have the same sentiment as yo...Hi Ang Wah,<BR/><BR/>Exactly,I have the same sentiment as you. But the big problem is that a lot of people still not able to see it. But my biggest concern is that it will not end with the Permatang Pauh election. I think we are heading toward chaos and bloodbath. Our politic now is the worst of all time never see such dirty politic before. Even the 1969 election was not that dirty yet May 13 occurred.<BR/><BR/>I hope I am wrong here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-47466754091595816212008-08-25T12:36:00.000+08:002008-08-25T12:36:00.000+08:00Hi everyone,Latest reveletion by none other than t...Hi everyone,<BR/><BR/>Latest reveletion by none other than the imam Ramlang from the FT KL masjid that cast doubt over the recent Saiful swearing. This imam revealed all at a PKR ceramah and declared that he was ordered to attend the sumpah laknat. The instructions on what to say was also provided this Saiful at the 'swearing'.<BR/><BR/>This news with videos are all over the alternative media, though the MSM either didn't bother to feature it or spin it to satisfy their masters. Make your own conclusions on the MSM.tan, tanjong bungahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17906740973174585446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-84171632664548430392008-08-25T11:52:00.000+08:002008-08-25T11:52:00.000+08:00I've been disgusted with UMNO and BN's racist camp...I've been disgusted with UMNO and BN's racist campaign in Permatang Pauh. In their desperation, UMNO has been pandering heavily to racial prejudice, trying to convince Malay voters that a vote for Anwar is a vote for DAP and Chinese political power.<BR/>That in addition to their continuous dirty, ad hominem attacks on Anwar. <BR/><BR/>By contrast, Anwar has been running an inclusive campaign, a positive campaign for hope and the future.Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05482725674818312298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65748203830039223382008-08-25T10:59:00.000+08:002008-08-25T10:59:00.000+08:00What we now have some wise guy chinese imam of MCA...What we now have some wise guy chinese imam of MCA preaching about swearing.<BR/>Look we swear everyday at those mother@#$#%s ,cursing and hoping they die with cancer in their arseh@@$#%,but do we really mean it to happen.Its no big deal, perhaps would that chinese mca iman swear on his honour if pressed to a point?<BR/>No matter what , Anwar is not going to take the oath and why should he? If i knock off a man ,should i take an oath to plead innocence?<BR/>Hey chinese iman! wake up ,this is the 20th.century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-82799139195345317742008-08-25T10:30:00.000+08:002008-08-25T10:30:00.000+08:00Dear Kittykat46Yes. I propose my"Second Law of Mal...Dear Kittykat46<BR/><BR/>Yes. <BR/><BR/>I propose my<BR/>"Second Law of Malaysian Politics"<BR/><BR/>i.e. "Those who play longkang politics (gutter politics) often fall into the longkang themselves"<BR/><BR/>Phua Kai LitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-44520497564893384972008-08-25T10:05:00.000+08:002008-08-25T10:05:00.000+08:00According to Imam Chaptokam:If Anwar is NOT guilty...According to Imam Chaptokam:<BR/><BR/><I>If Anwar is NOT guilty , innocent , did not commit sodomy he would have immediately sworn on the Koran that he did not do it .</I><BR/><BR/>Thereafter, Imam Chaptokam pontificates:<BR/><BR/><I>But the fact is he did not do it (sworn on the Koran) or dared not do it means he DID do it .He's afraid of the retribution from God .What else is there to say ? </I><BR/><BR/>I have to humbly point out to Imam Chaptokam (who is the resident Imam of MCA -- such is the parlous state of the Islamic religion in the Handhari ruined Be-End!) that his knowledge of Islam is outrageously and damnably wrong! Anyway, no thanks for distorting the religion of the majority of Malaysians!<BR/><BR/>Now here is something closer to the book, and represents a far better understanding of the religion than the ignorant resident Imam of MCA could ever offer (I hope that Imam Chaptokam has some understanding of Malay). It is from the Imam, no less, who was directed by the powers-that-be to officiate the happy and guilt-free "swearing" of a man who read a prepared text that he obviously did not write. Anyway, this is the truth about the "swearing" of the man on whose arsehole Ameno's sinister wish to win Permatang Pauh absolutely but pitifully rests on:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-9189297759069688680" REL="nofollow">Video</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-4876564583646028012008-08-25T09:45:00.000+08:002008-08-25T09:45:00.000+08:00Hahah...last night at Penanti, in front of a humun...Hahah...last night at Penanti, in front of a humungous crowd (I was there for a short while) the Imam who took Saiful's oath revealed that it was not quite "Halal".<BR/><BR/>The BN balloon just burst...<BR/>I'd say Anwar will win with a huge majority.<BR/><BR/>The negative BN campaign (and its very sewer-like indeed) mainly serves to harden existing opinions - most of what they purvey is already old news. <BR/><BR/>To borrow Stock analyst speak - the market has already discounted the information. <BR/><BR/>Those who are already convinced Anwar is a bad character will be triple convinced. Those who think Anwar is a suitable candidate for next PM will remain unconvinced.<BR/> <BR/>The bookmakers, whose business it is to know the ground sentiment about as well as anybody have got it right...Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05482725674818312298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-73313168027798046912008-08-25T09:44:00.000+08:002008-08-25T09:44:00.000+08:00PKR denies bribing Ramlang Chan Kok Leong | Aug 25...PKR denies bribing Ramlang <BR/>Chan Kok Leong | Aug 25, 08 4:13am <BR/><BR/>Parti Keadilan Rakyat has denied that they offered any monetary rewards to imam Ramlang Porigi for his frank testimony this morning.<BR/><BR/>(CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THIS?, WHY COME OUT AT EARLY MORNING AT A HASTILY CONFERENCE BY PKR?)<BR/> <BR/><BR/>Ramlang also revealed that he was only instructed to witness the ceremony by his superiors.<BR/><BR/>("INSTRUCTED" - WHEN YOU HAVE A DUTY TO CARRY OUT, ISN'T IT YOU WILL BE INSTRUCTED ?)<BR/><BR/><BR/>"I also wish to deny that I received any money to witness the swearing. I was only acting on instructions," said Ramlang in a hastily arranged press conference by PKR at 12.30am this morning.<BR/><BR/>(NO MONEY INVOLVED? BETULKAH? EARLY 12.30am WOR?)<BR/><BR/>On why Ramlang has come forward now, Azmin said the imam had to do his duty.<BR/><BR/>(PKR HAS CRITICISED THE GOVT ON THIS, SO NOW WHAT SAY YOU AZMIN?)<BR/><BR/>"It is a political conspiracy by Umno to use religion to save themselves. And he has to explain the matter to protect the role of the mosques and the institution.<BR/><BR/><BR/>("CONSPIRACY" ~ DAILY WORD OF PKR AND ANWAR :):):)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-37474099083688493042008-08-25T09:18:00.000+08:002008-08-25T09:18:00.000+08:00The RPK and gangs like Susan Loone, Zorro are losi...The RPK and gangs like Susan Loone, Zorro are losing integrity. They have fallen to cult syndrome. Anything Anwar says are treated as gospel. Conspiracy, victimisation are their belief. Can't this people sit back and do objective questioning and rationalising? You can be political, but please do it intelligently. <BR/><BR/>Being a staunch supporters of Pakatan Rakyat before the 8 Marc 2008 election, the recent events by Anwar, PKR such as the recent furore created by PKR MP Zulkifli Nordin at the Bar Council forum and MOST IMPORTANTLY ,no action by Anwar and complete silence from him has the great impact on me the see thru the real character of Anwar! The recent PHYSICAL bashing of reporters and photpgraphers by PKR members , confirm that PKR is no much from UMNO. I am 101% sure, if Anwar become PM, we are going to see to worst than Badawi or even Mahathir.<BR/><BR/>Look at Anwar cronies pre-1998. Anwar would sure like us to forget his past interest in those mega deals and now dare to say he is croniless!!! What a LIE!! <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately the CULT such as RPK, Susan, Zorro seems ignorant about this, strange isn't it, given how these bloggers attempt to trumpet Integrity, Press Freedom, etc<BR/><BR/>Why he dare not swear under Quran of the sodomy allegation is REALLY perplexing. Takut???<BR/><BR/>The wise saying: "Takut kerana salah, Berani kerana benar"<BR/><BR/>So, Anwar you Berani? Only you will know better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-63547459252103809302008-08-25T08:26:00.000+08:002008-08-25T08:26:00.000+08:00Dear AllReak Kim Quek's analysis:http://malaysia-t...Dear All<BR/><BR/>Reak Kim Quek's analysis:<BR/><BR/>http://malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/11693/1/<BR/><BR/>Phua Kai LitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-42848721671010132412008-08-24T19:35:00.000+08:002008-08-24T19:35:00.000+08:00Bro,Is Najib really a Hindu guy?http://rockybru.bl...Bro,<BR/><BR/>Is Najib really a Hindu guy?<BR/><BR/>http://rockybru.blogspot.com/2008/08/najibs-hindu-now.html<BR/><BR/>Is Lim Guan Eng also Muslim?<BR/><BR/>http://paksako.blogspot.com/2008/08/lim-guan-eng-muslim_7888.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-29610151426886966482008-08-24T17:14:00.000+08:002008-08-24T17:14:00.000+08:00intperhaps he doesn't want to do sumpah laknat bec...int<BR/>perhaps he doesn't want to do sumpah laknat because he doesn't want to set that precedent or encourage this kind of practice.<BR/>This will start tongues wagging , the local Malay folks believe that if you come clean , why afraid to swear ? Even though the swearing is not as you might say not according to Muslims customs to swear , but the very action of doing it actually allays the minds of the common folk to the extent that they will say oh Anwar tak salah , dia pun ada bikin sumpah ! .<BR/>I think it is this scenerio that Anwar is a bit worried that this will effect the voters .<BR/>Another issue is that Hadi who came by to speak on behalf of PAS only spoke for 10 minutes and immediately left after speafing without the usual of waiting for Anwar to come by and the hugs and embracing each other . This by itself also shows that PAS is offering lip service and might even have gone to the extent to get their supporters to vote for the fella from the off spring of PAS . This is coupled with the fact that posters were seen with Hadi's photo with the caption " Hadi for PM ".<BR/><BR/>Bookies have also joined the fray offering 5 to 1 for an Anwar win with more than 15000 votes handicap .You know what this means ? Chinese votes are buying this , and voting the other side ie BN just to make sure Anwar doesn't win big or not more than 10000 votes .<BR/><BR/>Lets see what happens on Aug 26thAwakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-66449990193544649812008-08-24T14:40:00.000+08:002008-08-24T14:40:00.000+08:00Bros,I say bro AnWar will lose..he himself will sa...Bros,<BR/><BR/>I say bro AnWar will lose..he himself will sabotage his winning chances ..why?? coz he is a Master of Deception..he has othr bigger agenda den winning d seat.. dis by-E is a personalploy by bro AnWar to stay a winnwr in d worlds eyes..he will lose wat more wth his own party members asking locals not to vote for bro AnWar..<BR/><BR/>SAY NO TO NWO!! SAY BYE TO AnWar!!Conspiracy Theoristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16201372478581446217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-39684614395090954962008-08-24T13:57:00.000+08:002008-08-24T13:57:00.000+08:00"He's afraid of the retribution from God .What els..."He's afraid of the retribution from God .What else is there to say ? "<BR/><BR/>Regardless of how we feel about him for other reasons, I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt here... perhaps he doesn't want to do sumpah laknat because he doesn't want to set that precedent or encourage this kind of practice.<BR/><BR/>Anyway chaptokam, all the best with your campaign efforts. Your prediction may come true. The problem with PKR by-elections, as we have seen in the past, is that the whole thing turns into a major fiesta/tourist attraction to the point where you can't even tell who is actually a voter in that area. Remember the morale and fanfare going into Ijok? In the end BN won with an even bigger majority. And to make matters worse, this is a whole new ballgame now, a brand new situation... I think only a fool will dare place big money on this.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the PR top leadership sense this ambiguity as well, hence the holiday. They ain't taking any chances.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-70939965738827142742008-08-24T10:36:00.000+08:002008-08-24T10:36:00.000+08:00but I reckon Anwar Ibrahim will still win - it's h...but I reckon Anwar Ibrahim will still win - it's his winning majority that may be affected.<BR/><BR/>Your prediction is as what I predicted at the onset . If you have noticed , I have not made much comments on P Pauh , this is to prevent info being channel to the relevant parties . My bet is : below 10000 votes might be more !<BR/><BR/>Lets see what the others have to say about this !Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65119617206657389432008-08-24T10:30:00.000+08:002008-08-24T10:30:00.000+08:00If Anwar is NOT guilty , innocent , did not commit...If Anwar is NOT guilty , innocent , did not commit sodomy he would have immediately sworn on the Koran that he did not do it .<BR/><BR/>But the fact is he did not do it (sworn on the Koran) or dared not do it means he DID do it .He's afraid of the retribution from God .What else is there to say ? <BR/><BR/>Kaytee ,<BR/><BR/>If you had posted your article or write up in MT or Susan's they will RIP you apart . There are a lot of vultures and hyennas there only people like us dare to thread where devils fear to walk . Chap only occasionally posts there but my twin Loo is there !Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.com