tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post6765296663885914998..comments2024-03-29T18:56:50.302+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Dr Chandra Muzzafar: "Anwar Ibrahim as PM will be an unmitigated disaster for Malaysia!"KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-12496034316100512612013-04-20T23:58:41.769+08:002013-04-20T23:58:41.769+08:00AND TO THINK THAT NTV 7 INVITED HIM TO SPEAK IS DI...AND TO THINK THAT NTV 7 INVITED HIM TO SPEAK IS DISGUSTING, BECAUSE HE IS ONE SIDED. MAY GOD GUIDE YOU TO BE A BETTER PERSON, EARN SOME RESPECT BEFORE YOUR TIME IS UP. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-5573468508173445652008-03-06T23:47:00.000+08:002008-03-06T23:47:00.000+08:00Chandra bugger is a man with no principle period.D...Chandra bugger is a man with no principle period.<BR/><BR/>Don't waste time to listen to him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-22342438639411855752008-03-06T21:23:00.000+08:002008-03-06T21:23:00.000+08:00The frantic smear campaign by the Barisan leaders ...The frantic smear campaign by the Barisan leaders against Anwar, repeated and amplified by the UMNO controlled TV stations, is evidence of the effectiveness of his campaign.<BR/><BR/>They deny him an opportunity to refute their allegations and have resurrected the failed, egoistic and discredited politician “scholar” Chandra Muzaffar and hired scribes to defame Anwar in the media.<BR/><BR/>Chandra now claims that if Anwar, who is now out of power, becomes Prime Minister it would be an unmitigated disaster for Malaysia but he was singing a different tune when Anwar was in power as Deputy Prime Minister.<BR/><BR/>He was, then, promoting Anwar as the successor to Dr Mahathir. In a piece he wrote in The Star he eulogized Anwar as the leader who is concerned about, and looking after, the welfare of the poor and the lower income group. With a forked tongue, he now accuses Anwar of dishonesty and singing a different tune from when he was in government.<BR/><BR/>I f we examine Chandra’s history of political involvement we can see his disillusionment with trying to become a self proclaimed reformer and a desire to attach himself to those in power. He was once a bitter critic of Dr Mahathir and an ardent supporter of Tengku Razaleigh and his Semangat 46. His object was to weaken UMNO but when it became clear that Tengku had no chance of assuming power Chandra abandoned him and Semangat 46.<BR/><BR/>He was then jobless when Anwar picked him up and gave him a job in the University Science Malaysia. Then he became a confidante and trusted adviser of Anwar. Using Anwar he managed to get close to Mahathir. He organized an international human rights conference and got Mahathir to declare it open. Many human rights groups criticized him for inviting Mahathir who they considered responsible for the destruction of the independence of our judiciary and violation of human rights. Chandra was seen by them as an opportunist sucking up to power instead of speaking truth to power.<BR/><BR/>After Mahathir sacked Anwar, Chandra became the de facto leader of Keadilan and contested the elections and lost. Also Anwar was convicted by the courts on criminal charges and there was no hope of him coming out of prison for more than 10 years if Mahathir continued to be in power. With a lot of infighting in Keadilan and Anwar in prison, Keadilan had no hope of denting Mahathir’s power.<BR/><BR/>It is at this stage that he decided to abandon Anwar and Keadilan which he regarded as a sinking ship. He then cultivated the friendship of Khairy Jamaluddin and got close to his father-in-law Datuk Abdullah Badawi, the then Deputy Prime Minister. He started praising Mahathir, who had been the target of his venomous attacks just months ago, including labelling him Mahafiraun. To curry favour with the government he began attacking Anwar.<BR/><BR/>He is now very comfortable running an NGO with the support of those in power and preaching morality and ethics to the world at large. His morality includes supporting a party that has an uninterrupted record of violation human rights, abuse of power, and corruption.<BR/><BR/>Whether Anwar will be an unmitigated disaster to Malaysia is academic and has yet to be seen. But Chandra has proved to be an unmitigated disaster to Keadilan, Anwar, and those who are seduced by his rhetoric without substance.<BR/><BR/>Mahfuz Omar<BR/>PAS, Information ChiefAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-28195176742865939232008-03-06T13:32:00.000+08:002008-03-06T13:32:00.000+08:00Aiya, Mamak Chandra wants to be recognised as a Ma...Aiya, Mamak Chandra wants to be recognised as a Malay and not Indian Muslim so he is whacking Anwar now to achieve his goal.<BR/><BR/>Who knows the attack might make him richer too...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-68624391621895129062008-03-06T10:21:00.000+08:002008-03-06T10:21:00.000+08:00Go to link for full set of letters. But below one ...Go to link for full set of letters. But below one caught my attention.<BR/><BR/>'Chandra, apologise to Anwar'<BR/>http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/79237<BR/><BR/>Mohamed Aslam Haneef: I attended the Election 2008 Forum held last Monday at the Menara Star in Kuala Lumpur. The five speakers, Karim Raslan, Denison Jayasooria, Rita Sim, Chandra Muzaffar and Syed Arabi Idid had their say, with the moderator, Wong Chun Wai playing an active role stimulating discussion and at times, provoking the speakers and the audience to speak their mind. <BR/><BR/>I felt that the issues raised were frank, reflecting the concerns of Malaysians such as inter and intra-ethnic relations, marginalised sections of Malaysian society and their plights, political and governance reforms that need to be made post 2008 elections, as well as some predictions of outcomes. <BR/><BR/>As a whole, though not as controversial and heated as some political forums can get, the session mainly reflected the maturity of most of the speakers and audience.<BR/><BR/>The last question allowed by the moderator was on the future role of Anwar Ibrahim in Malaysian politics. In their winding up responses, Karim Raslan seemed to be very positive about the role of Anwar and the need for BN, especially Umno to create ‘more Anwars’. Even Denison Jayasooria and Wong Chun Wai, who are known to be more pro-BN, were open to the possibility of Anwar having a positive role in Malaysian politics, if nothing more than for just keeping the BN government on its toes.<BR/><BR/>The disappointment to me was Chandra. His views that there could be more segregation and deterioration of inter-ethnic relations if more votes went to the opposition was quite shocking. His solution of a stronger BN that would act benevolently after winning comfortably was even more shocking. This was coupled with his emotional outburst against Anwar Ibrahim. <BR/><BR/>As someone who has known him for a relatively long time and who always respected his calm and patient responses, I was totally shocked by his many, rather weak accusations. Although the question was on Anwar’s role in Malaysian politics, Chandra answered that if Anwar was to become prime minister, it would be ‘an unmitigated disaster' for Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>I do not know what his problems are with Anwar, but this one incident has reflected badly on Chandra, especially since Malaysians have always come to expect a higher standard from him. His point on ‘honesty of politicians’ was especially humorous given the whole array of conflicting statements, warnings and threats issued by politicians, including government ministers and ex- opposition politicians in their long or short political careers.<BR/><BR/>Richard Kamalanathan: This is in response to the remarks made by Dr Chandra Muzaffar about Anwar Ibrahim last week. The founder of Aliran was not instrumental in the formation of PKR (during the formative days there was no PKR but just Parti Keadilan).<BR/><BR/>Just after a few weeks after Anwar was arrested 1998, there was meeting held at Professor Sabaruddin’s house behind University Tenaga Nasional and in that meeting Dr Wan Ismail (Anwar’s father-in-law) spoke about his relationship with the former primer minister and how Anwar was urged to join Umno. <BR/><BR/>During the meeting, he (Wan Ismail) urged us to consider forming a party. Hence, it was his idea that was formed on the porch of Professor Sabaruddin’s house. None of Anwar's family members were there. I was one of the few initiators of the idea.<BR/><BR/>Subsequently we went around building up this party and we had a lot of youngsters joining the party along with former Umno stalwarts like Marina Yusof. She was a great asset at that time. For some reason though, most of the good leaders could not work with Chandra. He was haughty, arrogant and oblivious of the real issues at the kampung and estates. <BR/><BR/>It was difficult to talk to him. Once, at a Hindraf gathering in Sentul, he told me that my analysis of the Tamil situation was good but added: ‘You Indians must know exactly what you are asking for. <BR/><BR/>This Chandra Muzaffar @ Chandrasegaran Pillai considers himself not Indian just because he has converted. Chandra thinks he is a super-intellectual on human rights, philosophy and Islamic civilisation in Malaysia. He is not. I will blame Anwar for bringing him into the party. Chandra was the cause of the early troubles in PKR. He has no leadership qualities and had no political thinking. He was zero at politics.<BR/><BR/>I am no more in PKR but I feel I have to put the facts right, not for Anwar's sake but for many individuals who had worked along with me in the party in its formative days including my wife Philomena. I am disappointed in you, Dr ChandraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-31373871156406318762008-03-06T07:55:00.000+08:002008-03-06T07:55:00.000+08:00From Mahaguru blog:Dear Maha,The ilk of Chandra is...From Mahaguru blog:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Dear Maha,<BR/><BR/>The ilk of Chandra is an intellectual cheat and an assassin for hire. He epitomizes the disease of the Muslim World’s ruffians: cheap charlatans for hire at any given time. They have no integrity, character, decency, sense of honour, responsibility and God’s fear. It is very ironical that he lambastes Anwar saying that he is fighting for justice, yet he is unjust both to Anwar and to all the Malaysians screwed up by BN and UMNO warlords. It is very unjust that he character assassinates someone in a newspaper that will not give Anwar the right to rebuttal or to be heard, yet he talks of integrity. Wonders will never end. My brother, I came to know one thing: that some of our Indian Muslim brothers and sisters are very naïve. Some in their blind pursuit for economical goals leave decency behind and even try to reject their identity. I’m sure you read of the Indian Malaysian Muslim Youth Association saying that they want to be called “Malays” because they dress and eat like Malays. What a joke! Why do you want to deny the identity Allah has given you? It is a sign of God’s existence that we have different people, skins, languages and manners. Appreciate it and work hard for your personal success. This brings me to the Mamak disease we have. Most of them like Chandra are pussyfooters who have no sense of responsibility but in their blind pursuit to gain acceptance in the midst of Malays, do what even a eunuch can’t do. They need to know that we the Malays have no good whatsoever without Islam. Without Islam, Malays are brute bunch of people. It is Islam that salvages them though Islam Hadhari is destroying them nowadays. As long as we are Muslims, we have one identity and that’s Islam. So Chandra should know that launching a scathing attack on Anwar in the hope that he will be elevated is very misplaced and it shows how pugnacious, ill, unregenerate and an uncouth he is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-51322424592317752272008-03-06T07:44:00.000+08:002008-03-06T07:44:00.000+08:00A CLASSIC CHANDRA-WARA ! by Martin JallehIt is si...A CLASSIC CHANDRA-WARA ! <BR/>by Martin Jalleh<BR/><BR/>It is simply amazing how someone who was deemed “irrelevant” by the caretaker PM and of whom the mainstream media (MSM) chose to send into oblivion has now become the cover story of the MSM – for very obvious reasons of course! <BR/><BR/>“Who is Anwar? ” the PM had asked sarcastically. He is finished. His political career has folded up. But now, almost every other day Pak Lah answers his own question! Anwar’s “spirit” haunts, hounds and heckles him – even though Anwar is not eligible to stand! <BR/><BR/>Very evidently the script and sandiwara for the General Elections by the boys on the Fourth Floor have spun out of control. The sycophants surrounding the PM have been caught with their pants down. <BR/><BR/>In comes an eminent human rights advocate who would spew out an “intellectual” diatribe – Chandra Muzaffar – a man whom in elections of recent times (except when he was in the Opposition) the BN would unleash before the final curtain. <BR/><BR/>“If Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim becomes Prime Minister, it will be an ‘unmitigated disaster’ for Malaysia. . . he is not the sort of leader the country needs as he is now singing a different tune from when he was in the Government, ” charged Chandra, the former deputy president of PKR. <BR/><BR/>Chandra changed? <BR/><BR/>A member of the public named “Amar” who wrote to the editor of Malaysiakini pointed out that the “examples he (Chandra) quotes in the report were events that happened way before Anwar lost Dr Mahathir Mohamad’s patronage and interestingly, these were events that took place before Anwar’s reformasi movement commenced. ”<BR/><BR/>“On what basis did Chandra join PKR as deputy president given that he had reservations over Anwar’s past decisions? ” he quite appropriately asked. <BR/><BR/>In a similar vein respected journalist and former MP James Wong Wing On quotes a retired academician who attended the forum during which “Chandra Muzaffar had ‘really succeeded’ in damaging or even destroying his own credibility by re-launching ‘a very bitter and vindictive’ attack on Anwar Ibrahim’s ‘past records’ in the BN government”: <BR/><BR/>“If Chandra Muzaffar had always known Anwar’s "past records" in BN…why did he continue to support Anwar in the period from 1998 to 1999 and also became Parti Keadilan Nasional’s deputy president and its parliamentary candidate in the 1999 general election? ” <BR/><BR/>A “Aril Mikhail” wrote to Malaysiakini highlighting the irony that “Chandra is ‘coming clean’ and saying all this of Anwar now, when he himself appears to be doing the exact opposite of what he was doing when in Aliran and PKR. Before, he consistently argued against the BN having a two-thirds majority and the need for a strong opposition. ”<BR/><BR/>“Now, on the eve of the elections, he seemingly dismisses the opposition and asserts that, despite its flaws, there is no other viable coalition beyond the BN. How fortuitous. I guess when you’ve been offered a cushy position in a state university for two years, you tend to ‘change’ somewhat. <BR/><BR/>“Dear Chandra, selling out is fine. But becoming a willing tool of a corrupt, arrogant and racist regime at this critical juncture devalues, indeed destroys, whatever good work you may have done thus far. May God guide you, ” was Mikhail’s parting blessing! <BR/><BR/>In other words, it appears Chandra is also singing a different tune? <BR/><BR/>Chandra Confused? <BR/><BR/>In their response to Chandra’s cutting criticism of Anwar, the Malaysian Media Monitors’ Diary, a joint project of Charter 2000-Aliran, the Centre for Independent Journalism and the Writers Alliance for Media Independence, along with independent volunteers, showed how confused Chandra was: <BR/><BR/>“Chandra also expressed his fear of serious polarisation in the country: ‘My fear is that this coming election will reinforce and aggravate the ethnic polarisation if a large number of non-Malays vote for the Opposition, and worse if a large percentage of Malays vote for the Opposition. This will cause Umno to be very cautious in making any changes to the ethnic question and addressing issues related to religion. ’<BR/><BR/>“Such an argument only raises further questions: in the first place, isn’t the increase in polarisation due to ethnic-based policies and practices of the past Umno-led administrations, as alluded to by Chandra himself? If so, how on earth could Umno be relied upon to make meaningful changes that could redress problems related to ethnicity and religion? <BR/><BR/>“And why was there an emergence of amorphous groups such as Hindraf that articulate legitimate grievances (to a large extent) from a particular ethnic community? <BR/><BR/>“Secondly, how can ethnic polarisation worsen if both the non-Malays and the Malays vote for the Opposition? If anything, a multi-ethnic ruling coalition and a multi-ethnic opposition would lessen polarisation and ensure that issues raised are debated in the interests of all Malaysians. Is it the only the Barisan Nasional that can resolve ethnic issues and polarisation. The record indicates otherwise. ”<BR/><BR/>Chandra Consistent? <BR/><BR/>Chandra also said “the most important quality of a leader in a multi-ethnic country was honesty and when a leader spoke on sensitive ethnic issues, he must say the same thing to non-Malays as to the Malays…You cannot play games because it is very dangerous. " <BR/><BR/>There could be no better response to this than that provided by the Malaysian Media Monitors’ Diary: ”If, as rightly pointed out by Chandra, the issue of trust and honesty is vital, then shouldn’t we, or rather forum moderator Wong Chun Wai, also ask whether leaders such as keris-wielding Hishamuddin can be trusted to be one of the country’s leaders. <BR/><BR/>“After all, didn’t Hishamuddin change his political stance pertaining to the issue of Chinese and Tamil schools in the country in the run-up to the general election? Isn’t that political expedience of the highest degree? <BR/><BR/>“Hasn’t his tune changed? Wasn’t it in Umno that you had a few politicians talking of unsheathing the keris and threatening to bathe it with Chinese blood? Did this escape Wong’s (or Chandra’s) memory? ”<BR/><BR/>Yes, what about the “honesty” of caretaker deputy prime minister Najib Tun Razak who in 1987, as UMNO Youth Chief, vowed to bathe the keris with Chinese blood, and who now never fails to spew out a verbal diarrhea of multi-racial mutterings? <BR/><BR/>As for consistency, did the caretaker PM not preach to the gathering of Christians at the Plenary Commission on Faith and Order of the World Council of Churches at the beginning of his premiership on “Dialogue The Key To Unity Of Multireligious, Multiethnic And Multicultural Societies” and yet, four years later ban the Building Bridges Conference, a inter-religious seminar meant to bring together Christian and Muslim scholars of international repute? <BR/><BR/>Alas, Chandra seems so out of tune! Even the Aliran Executive Committee feels so. In a statement today they provide two examples: “It is odd, (therefore, ) that Chandra should be so concerned about the problem of money politics in PKR per se. At the same time, he has not said much of late about the money politics which has always been associated with the BN. ”<BR/><BR/>”Chandra also has highlighted the supposedly racial scare tactics used by PKR during the Lunas by-election. For us, such dirty tricks have been resorted to by all parties especially the BN. Again, all forms of racial baiting by all parties should be condemned. ”<BR/><BR/>Chandra’s chicanery? <BR/><BR/>In recent years, Anwar has in fact addressed what Chandra has accused him off. As Aril Mikhail has put it quite succinctly: “The gist of Chandra’s personal attack is that Anwar is saying things now that are the opposite of what he said and did when he was high up in Umno. This, of course, is nothing new and Anwar himself has addressed these criticisms often enough. ”<BR/><BR/>Indeed quite recently Anwar has met head-on criticisms and the portrayal of him as a political chameleon (especially by the MCA). When asked to respond to a 4-page leaflet by the MCA entitled “Disclosing the true face of Anwar”, Anwar said: <BR/><BR/>“The notion that I’m a political chameleon misses things by a mile…Nothing I did and said in the language and cultural spheres were not standard BN-Umno policy and nowhere did I take my championing of any issue to the extent that I waved a keris and called for bloodletting, stirring crowds to emotive outbursts” <BR/>(Malaysiakini). <BR/><BR/>Anwar was referring to the October 1987 Umno Youth-led demonstration in Kuala Lumpur where a band of Malay leaders, including present Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak, harangued the crowd with inflammatory rhetoric. <BR/><BR/>At that time, the posting of non-Mandarin speaking administrators to government-aided Chinese schools ratcheted up racial tension in the country: “Those were fraught times and I hold that the distinction one ought to make between a responsible and a chauvinistic leader in that context lay in how you argued your point without inflaming public sentiment. <BR/><BR/>“I stood on the sane side of that divide while there were others in power today who breached that line with impunity, ” he said. <BR/><BR/>In early February this year, Anwar subjected himself to a rigorous examination of his stances on religious issues in the presence of about 200 Christian clerics and lay activists and appeared to have emerged intact (Malaysiakini). <BR/><BR/>There was no variance between his public pronouncements and his private assurances to his inquisitors, said an observer at the closed-door dialogue held in Petaling Jaya, organised by the Christian Federation of Malaysia. <BR/><BR/>Chandra’s Condemnation <BR/><BR/>There also remains the hopeful reality that politicians do and can change for the better through time and circumstance. James Wong quotes a good Christian friend who also attended the forum wherein Chandra spoke: <BR/><BR/>“…whatever his "past records" in the BN government, Anwar has ‘cleansed’ himself by his willingness to suffer grave injustices and tortures from 1998 to 2004, and also by working hard now to oppose BN’s unjust policies. Seen in this light, Anwar is definitely a better person than those in the BN who still refuse to make amends for the better. ”<BR/><BR/>“Has Dr. Chandra Muzaafar himself changed for the better or worse? ” asked James Wong<BR/><BR/>By portraying Anwar as untrustworthy and unprincipled Chandra is pronouncing the “death sentence” on the man who has already paid a very costly price for challenging the head of a hegemony who was capable of the most heinous! <BR/><BR/>Chandra also confounded the whole country when he said that although BN was “flawed”, there was no other coalition in the country. In its statement Aliran stated that it “does not share Chandra’s recent remarks vis-à-vis Anwar Ibrahim and PKR. Neither do we share his views that the BN despite its flaws is a better choice. Indeed, we are rather perturbed by his apparently emotional outburst. ”<BR/><BR/>Asked why he was breaking his silence now, Chandra said it appeared that people were being deceived by Anwar and (i)t is something for which I am prepared to go on record now so that people will not be deceived". <BR/><BR/>Chandra should keep in mind what he had once declared: “Malaysians are not idiots or imbeciles. ” <BR/><BR/>Apparently Aliran was not satisfied with the answer given by its former president and so it stated and asked: “The most disturbing aspect of this episode is how Dr Chandra Muzaffar has wittingly or unwittingly lent himself to be a part of the BN propaganda machine. It is sad that a prominent intellectual and long-time activist of his standing has such a blinkered view of the issue at hand. We wonder why he did not make these alleged goings-on public earlier and follow up on them conclusively given his public stance on integrity and accountability. Why only now? " <BR/><BR/>Alas, Chandra should not allow himself to be a hydra of the BN! <BR/><BR/>Martin Jalleh<BR/>5 March 2008Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-72180374702509440932008-03-06T02:20:00.000+08:002008-03-06T02:20:00.000+08:00KT, old chap, the more you attempt to present Anwa...KT, old chap, the more you attempt to present Anwar as a greater stinker than C.M. in today's context, the more you erode whatever remains of your own credibility. <BR/><BR/>Liking or hating AI is less important here than recognizing what a typical dishonest "intellectual" looks like afterwards when he works full time for the Dark side of the Force. C.M. quietly took ppl for a ride for far too long and despite his own baggages, many still gave him some measure of credibility until now - when his credibility is all shot with the realization that he was not a pleasant or honest person all along but another self-serving opportunist who sold his soul. Because he no longer has any credibility, can what he said of Anwar be believed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-66690656497265474372008-03-06T00:44:00.000+08:002008-03-06T00:44:00.000+08:00As a DAP member, I'm still saddened to see that th...As a DAP member, I'm still saddened to see that they are DAP supporters who are still bent on conducting their own personal crusades and vendettas rather than thinking about the BIG picture - denying BN 2/3 majority. Why can't we display more flexibility in cooperation and an open mind, instead of being too ideologically driven - personally and professionally.<BR/><BR/>From the number of anti-Anwar articles posted here in the past few weeks, one wonders whether you are more concerned with grinding your own personal vendetta and prejudice rather than being open-minded in the quest for greater democracy? Anyway this is not my blog, so you are free to write anything you want.<BR/><BR/>Coming back to Chandra Muzaffar, he was and is an intellectual fraud for a very long time. After reading his numerous pro-Islamic and Western bashing articles, I can't be helped but be disgusted with his writings. Even in matters concerning local politics, he somehow manage to frame it in his great geopolitical agenda for Muslims against the West. Examples include the HINDRAF article and complaints on marginalization in Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>If Chandra now 3 days before the election want to dredge up old issues dating to 1980s, why did he even join Keadilan in the first place? Don't tell me he wasn't aware of all those controversies then? But this is all water under the bridge. People can and will change. Heck, I even voted and supported Badawi from 2004 to 2006. Now I am dead opposed to BN. People can and will change. Chandra himself is a testament to that. Why then do you want to rehash old issues, which I would remind you was done under the banner of UMNO and not completely 100% Anwar Ibrahim alone. What about the cabinet? The previous PM?<BR/><BR/>The person whom Chandra most clearly resembles in writing, philosophy and intellectual fraud is Noam Chomsky. Chomsky manages to frame everything in the world into his neat little world of the Evil American Empire and benign Soviets, Maoists, Muslim terrorists etc. One only has to remember his fraudulent defense of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia and subsequent flip-flop. Chandra is in good company.<BR/><BR/>As for Nalla, it was made well known among certain circles well before Ijok even, that he was and is a BN spy as well as being a shady character with shady dealings with unscrupulous characters. His return to BN under the guise of MIUP clearly showed who he was working for in the first place. Too bad for him, under Hindraf and Makkal Sakthi fervour, the Indians has completely bypass political parties to represent them in BN and is bent on collision course with UMNO.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10025737136335403270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-20601932794846832912008-03-05T20:00:00.000+08:002008-03-05T20:00:00.000+08:00I do not recall any period, I had much respect for...I do not recall any period, I had much respect for Chandra Muzaffar. His writings generally indicated a biased nature and his article ‘Hindraf bane upon the nation’ takes the cake.<BR/><BR/>Coming to Anwar -- I remember in the early 90s, Anwar came to talk to a group of people most like expat corporate folks, and Anwar made the remark in along these lines, " I am just back from this meeting and I told them what they wanted to hear and now I am here!<BR/><BR/>So the vote for the opposition is not so much as for the opposition as much as it is against the Umno ruling party. One has to accept the fact being in power has a very corrupting influence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59939972589828990362008-03-05T17:31:00.000+08:002008-03-05T17:31:00.000+08:00PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim has instructed h...PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim has instructed his lawyers to initiate defamation proceedings against Umno Youth deputy chief Khairy Jamaluddin and former PKR deputy president Chandra Muzaffar over their recent remarks against him.<BR/><BR/>Apart from a public apology, he is also seeking RM10 million from each for allegedly tarnishing his reputation.<BR/><BR/>Anwar’s lawyer SN Nair (photo) yesterday sent demand letters to Khairy and Chandra, asking them to retract the offending remarks and to give an undertaking that they will not repeat the allegations and comments.<BR/><BR/>Nair pointed out that Khairy (photo), during a ceramah on Feb 20 in Lembah Pantai, had given listeners the impression that Anwar is a homosexual, and a man of low morals who also has no Islamic values.....<BR/><BR/>In the other letter, Nair similarly said Chandra’s comments as published in the New Straits Times on March 4 implied that Anwar “was and is promoting and inciting racial hatred amongst the races in Malaysia” and had committed criminal offences of sedition..........<BR/><BR/>48 hours to respond<BR/>http://malaysiakini.com/news/79197Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-74371451889963729812008-03-05T17:13:00.000+08:002008-03-05T17:13:00.000+08:00Chandra lies:In ‘Hindraf bane upon the nation’ (NS...Chandra lies:<BR/><BR/>In ‘Hindraf bane upon the nation’ (NST, Dec 12, 2007), Chandra Muzaffar writes: “If Hindus are facing annihilation, how does one explain the glaring fact that in the state of Selangor, on a per capita basis, there are more Hindu temples than mosques and surau put together?” <BR/><BR/># Is Chandra counting the little shrines under trees and altars lodged in crevices? Obviously he didn’t calculate the temples versus mosques facts on the ground on a per square foot basis.<BR/>http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/02/18/on-hindraf-looks-like-abdullah-sounds-like-kj/<BR/><BR/>That is the `intelligence` of this failed university professor, failed aliranist, failed politician and now he is `just`, cannot pakai dia lagi. Better to buang him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-50450171766151476172008-03-05T16:21:00.000+08:002008-03-05T16:21:00.000+08:00Chandra flip flops:“I feel sorry for Anwar, but I ...Chandra flip flops:<BR/><BR/>“I feel sorry for Anwar, but I feel even sorrier for the country. I feel sad for the system of justice for this country, what it has come to,” <BR/><BR/><BR/>“what we actually want to do is let the foreigners think for us. This is what we see in the rich Middle East countries where foreigners are actually doing all the thinking and they are the ones running the show.”<BR/><BR/>“It's back to square one. I don't think the situation is getting better.”<BR/><BR/>“The findings are not at all surprising. This is partly because ethnic boundaries are real in our society and almost every sphere of public life is linked to ethnicity in one way or another.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-68357492085018898582008-03-05T15:58:00.001+08:002008-03-05T15:58:00.001+08:00We have guys who try to smuggle out money from Aus...We have guys who try to smuggle out money from Australia in contravention of their laws, we got guys who are accused of raping underaged girls. We got the close one eye MPs, and we got Zakaria Deros. And we got all those guys like Samy Velu and Ong Ka Ting. And we got Altantuya. And we got the new Airbus 313 for the PM and of course we got the sukhoi jet and the submarine commissions. <BR/><BR/>Chandra Muzaffar sanctions all this. ASsuming he has something to say about this he has found no voice in the MSM to say this. In otherwards it is quite allright for him to have his back played by the BN guys. It is quite alright for him that instead of gracefuly going senile in his old days he allows himself to be used. But that again that is Chandra Muzaffar..What else can I say!Old Farthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06473446507494861946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-36474892466119856912008-03-05T15:58:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:58:00.000+08:00anon 3:42 PM, thanks for your info and I agree it'...anon 3:42 PM, thanks for your info and I agree it's unacceptable to insult PAS that way, or any way - yes by all means criticise the political party's policies or its members' behaviour but I say NO to insults showing disrespect to religion, race or reason.<BR/><BR/>But this post is not for such discussion - please stick to Chandra Muzzafar's rendition of his take on Anwar Ibrahim - and visitors, please let's keep the vile language and ad hominen abuses (eg <I>"... sell his mother or his wife to gain FAVOUR ..."</I>) out so that we may appreciate your viewpoints more. Thanks ;-)KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-49511085259549550962008-03-05T15:52:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:52:00.000+08:00Malaysia has always taken pro-Pakistan stance in i...Malaysia has always taken pro-Pakistan stance in international fora against vital Indian interests.<BR/>While denouncing India for the 1998 Pokhran II nuclear tests, Malaysia became a willing participant in Pakistan's clandestine nuclear trade and commerce. Mr. Abdullah Badawi's own son was allegedly front-running a shadow company for the benefit of AQ Khan's international nuclear Wal-Mart that benefited Pakistan and smuggled nuclear weapon components to North Korea, Libya, Syria and Iran. Details of these transactions are carefully documented by Adrian Levy and Catherine Clark-Scott in their best seller entitled "Deception: Pakistan, the United States, and the Secret Trade in Nuclear Weapons". Also not widely known is the fact that Kuala Lumpur was the active planning and meeting ground for the Islamic terrorists who brought down the Twin Towers during the 9/11 attacks. It appears that after Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, Malaysia has turned out to be the incubator of Jihadi terrorism in Asia.<BR/><BR/>http://www.c3sindia.org/southeastasia/195/malaysian-elections-and-geopolitical-implications/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-90814652110899752472008-03-05T15:42:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:42:00.000+08:00According to blogger MAHAGURU58, this insulting ba...According to blogger MAHAGURU58, this insulting banner was cited along roads in Tasek Gelugor, Seberang Perai, and Teluk Air Tawar, Butterworth and Penang. It is good for him to notify us of this. No peace loving Malaysians would even dare to think of the statement on the banner, which says very loudly “Islam Go to Hell” or something like that. The banner depicts a pig facing PAS spiritual leader and Kelantan menteri besar Nik Aziz Nik Mat. The pig carries a ‘cracked’ PAS symbol on its body.<BR/><BR/>http://sloone.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/banners-insulting-islam-found-in-penang/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-30950240743723807572008-03-05T15:19:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:19:00.000+08:00sure, if you think lowly of this man, you don't ha...sure, if you think lowly of this man, you don't have to be an anwarista, but now that chandra is hitting out at anwar, those who hate chandra should not be blinded by hatred for chandra to oppose everything he said of anwar - lucia<BR/><BR/>What you talking. Earlier you say that those who rub chandra are anwaristas, then you agree that what anwar said on nep you agree.<BR/>So you can, but others cannot is it?<BR/>And saying `holy holy` of chandra is what he make himself out to be. Islanders are usually credited with having insular mentality, and it shows a lot.<BR/>You think that idiot chandra (he doesn`t have to be hated to be called idiot) what was he trying to do in keadilan huh? What did he do while he was there? He made a mess of things while he there. He is the one who started all those `doa` readings at meetings (anwar was in prison at that time).<BR/>If you hate anwar, fine. But that is no reason to credit chandra`s intelligence and make him out as a new God. Let BN make him a god.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-11310146905434973962008-03-05T15:11:00.000+08:002008-03-05T15:11:00.000+08:00Chandra lovers being anti-anwar would hate this pr...Chandra lovers being anti-anwar would hate this pro-anwar site report:<BR/><BR/>Anwar rocks Perak, Pak Lah no-show <BR/>Andrew Ong | Mar 5, 08 2:36pm <BR/>As campaigning entered the crucial final lap, PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim blazed through Perak yesterday to rally voters.<BR/><BR/>At every stop, large crowds waited for hours to greet the former deputy premier, who started his tour in Tanjung Malim in the morning before making his way up north through Bota, Bidor, Tapah, Gopeng, Sungai Siput and finally Bagan Serai. <BR/>http://malaysiakini.com/news/79182Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-68338934063569040522008-03-05T14:41:00.000+08:002008-03-05T14:41:00.000+08:00anon 12.25do you understand english? in what way, ...anon 12.25<BR/>do you understand english? in what way, what i said (which you quoted) means i implied chandra is holy and we should pray to him? never i hinted at that at all. in fact, last para, i was careful to point out i don't support chandra or like him.<BR/><BR/>in fact, it was long ago when he was still in aliran, i think, that he did or said something that made me lost respect for him. so please don't put words into my mouth that i said he is holy holy.<BR/><BR/>sure, if you think lowly of this man, you don't have to be an anwarista, but now that chandra is hitting out at anwar, those who hate chandra should not be blinded by hatred for chandra to oppose everything he said of anwar. if there is some truth in it, so admit it, and say chandra was right. look at the facts for argument not at the person, specially when it is personal.<BR/><BR/>kitty, i have to agree with you on that point (re: what anwar said on the NEP).luciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02351637920885427050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-75456857184590107592008-03-05T14:34:00.000+08:002008-03-05T14:34:00.000+08:00KayTee, thanks a lot for putting forward this topi...KayTee, thanks a lot for putting forward this topic -- it's captivating. What's great is that we get to read both sides of the discussion. <BR/><BR/>The Internet and blogs are truly wonderful for without them we would never get to know these background info. No wonder those Unmo (United Narrow-Minded Organization) fellows are so damned scared of blogs and bloggers.<BR/><BR/>However, it is unfortunate that about two-thirds of Malaysians do not have a chance to get online.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-47951574829878198862008-03-05T14:02:00.000+08:002008-03-05T14:02:00.000+08:00visit herehttp://kucheng.myminicity.comvisit here<BR/><BR/>http://kucheng.myminicity.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59509046660108971622008-03-05T12:34:00.000+08:002008-03-05T12:34:00.000+08:00This is one way that the indian muslim Chandra can...This is one way that the indian muslim Chandra can become a Malay -by supporting UMNO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-78295336014272433902008-03-05T12:25:00.000+08:002008-03-05T12:25:00.000+08:00- see, many anwaristas had come up to defend their...- see, many anwaristas had come up to defend their idol anwar and condemn chandra. - lucia<BR/><BR/>You mean Chandra is a holy holy fellow and we should pray to him? The same skunk who opposed APCET (and so genocide of the Timorese)? The same low down skunk who opposes hindraf?<BR/>I don`t have to be anwarista to think lowly of this rubbish man. I got enough brains of my own to recognise this evil clothed in white.<BR/>Marina Yusuf in leaving PKR was also scathing in her attack on Chandra. Now all those Penangites who love Chandra should go talk to the Bengali side of his family members and see what they say of him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-8974114971820722252008-03-05T11:04:00.000+08:002008-03-05T11:04:00.000+08:00Lucia "chandra saying many non malays are too take...Lucia "chandra saying many non malays are too taken in by the suave, charming (hic!), articulate anwar!"<BR/><BR/>The defining moment to me was Anwar Ibrahim saying publicly "the NEP needs to be repealed". He has said it in public many times, in front of non-Malay audiences,in front of Malay audiences. <BR/><BR/>How many non-Malays realise the heavy political price he has paid with the Malays for saying that ? <BR/><BR/>He's only managed to survive his Malay support base because of his past record as a Malay nationalist.<BR/><BR/>How many other Malay politicians have dared utter that in public ? <BR/><BR/>None. Zilch.<BR/><BR/>Anwar Ibrahim is a flawed character with a heavy past baggage, but to me he is the best chance Malaysia has at this moment for a leader to counter the Barisan kleptocracy.Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05482725674818312298noreply@blogger.com