tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post4089527923054916599..comments2024-03-28T23:42:23.455+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: DAP's flirtation with PASKTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-29943733773699161452010-10-07T13:45:50.502+08:002010-10-07T13:45:50.502+08:00Ktemoc,
PAP & DAP are pretty much the sa...Ktemoc,<br /> PAP & DAP are pretty much the same.....in terms of Organisation. It's like a big family. I am not saying that DAP is a LKS's party unlike some people make it out to be.....<br /> In this system, there are plus points & minus points. The plus of having cadre system is that people who are commited to the course who hold higher posts....Hence, the saying of a "family based or in christian term Prybester style of" political party.....However, the points are not many malays are linked to top....I really can't think of any....<br /> Precisely, DAP has no choice but to go on the LKY's way in thye early days of PAP....Forming alliance or perhaps even merging with a malay based party......It's a gamble that DAP got to take.....DAP got his finger burnt 10 years ago with Barisan Alternative.......<br /> But then again, if only if Zaid can see the picture or Razaleigh.....Hmmm......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-30191777426126041222010-10-07T13:34:59.821+08:002010-10-07T13:34:59.821+08:00ktemoc,
It's been a long time since I co...ktemoc,<br /> It's been a long time since I communicated in your comment box & you may deserve a reply. I am more of a PR supporter, leaning towards DAP or better still PAP<br /><br />Ktemoc,<br /> I agree with LKY that if Singapore were still part of Malaysia, Malaysia would be a vibrant & developed country. <br /><br />Ktemoc,<br /> I also agree with you that LKY is not superhuman. He never claimed to be superhuman. As for his egos, wait till you speak to his equals including Toh Chin Chye & Rajaratnam.....Or His beloved wife....Madam LKY who passed away recently.<br /> I disagree with you that things would go worst if LKY were still with Malaysia simply because of these 2 other giants......Rajaratnam from Serembam & Toh Chin Chye from Taiping....hehe<br /> By the way, I attach LKY's eulogy for your reference<br /><br />http://dinmerican.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/mm-lees-eulogy-the-last-farewell-to-my-wife/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-64915905048902150632010-10-05T15:24:38.530+08:002010-10-05T15:24:38.530+08:00reciprocity based on mutual respect and tolerance ...reciprocity based on mutual respect and tolerance is OK with me - cheersKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59267587762549283462010-10-05T10:37:48.676+08:002010-10-05T10:37:48.676+08:00Thank you KTemoc,
It is delicate but I do not see...Thank you KTemoc,<br /><br />It is delicate but I do not see the DAP as over-fawning in this matter. It is more like reciprocity. In my area PAS ADUNS attend Hungry Ghost Ceremonies. Is PAS over-fawning on Chinese practices? If anything I think PAS and DAP realise that they have to start building bridges and superhighways between them as fast as possible for they know those PKR blokes are capable of anything in the name of Bangsa, Negara and Ugama.vinnannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-57860014245871937002010-10-05T04:30:14.215+08:002010-10-05T04:30:14.215+08:00vinnan, thanks. but as I remarked, it's okay t...vinnan, thanks. but as I remarked, it's okay to be political allies or even friends with PAS but <b>over</b>-fawning on Islamic practices may inadvertantly lead to a situation where hudud could be introduced, which once in place can never be removed. Hudud in the hands of some clerics would be like Afghanistan under the Talibans, where hands were frequently chopped off or women stoned to death.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-74764501309662947592010-10-04T22:42:47.991+08:002010-10-04T22:42:47.991+08:00KTemoc,
It is impossible to take religion out of ...KTemoc,<br /><br />It is impossible to take religion out of politics in Malaysia and this is especially true of Muslims. Look at Turkey and see how Atarturk's secularism is being rolled back by the Muslims. PAS will forever be playing its religious songs come what may. The sooner the DAP come to a full understanding of this Muslim tendency the better it will be able to keep this beast at bay. Flirting with PAS or Islam as you put it is the only way for the DAP to gain the trust of the Malays. If the DAP can be acceptable to PAS it will also make itself acceptable to many Malays. I am sure the DAP wants to be in Putrajaya someday. Without the support of the Malay-Muslims Putrajaya will forever remain a dream. In the same vein PAS knows that its Putrjaya dream must be supported by a large majority of the Chinese simply because the Chinese vote in Malaysia is turning out to be the most cohesive and powerful bloc of non-Malay votes. So long as the DAP does not royally fu'[ up, this bloc of votes will always go to the DAP. PAS knows this. Obama could never have been voted into the White House without a large chunk of WASPs supporting him along with the tendency of Blacks in the US to vote Democrat as a bloc. Do you see the similarities here?vinnannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-44112177456318483192010-10-04T14:49:02.766+08:002010-10-04T14:49:02.766+08:00looes74, thanks for your comments which I always a...looes74, thanks for your comments which I always appreciate, but may I be permitted to hazard a guess that you're a PKR supporter? Now, why would I say that? 'Coz PKR supporters like Nat Tan (and perhaps you, yet to be confirmed ;-)) do have a propensity to declare anyone who disagrees with their leaders or people they admire, as expressing 'hatred' towards those leaders/people wakakaka<br /><br />No I don't hate LKY - as a matter I admire him for his amazing but ruthless leadership, but he has weak points (e.g. extraordinary conceit) which I wish to express to show that he isn't the wonderful superman many people think he isKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-56525014908208822752010-10-04T14:14:01.674+08:002010-10-04T14:14:01.674+08:00ktemoc,
I know that your much "hatred&q...ktemoc,<br /> I know that your much "hatred" towards LKY. Like it or not, LGE or in fact, LKS needs to ride once again the tiger.<br /> Frankly, LGE is more like LHL rather than Lim Chin Siong. I believe that you have really underestimate Barisan Sosialis. If you say that LKY being in Malaysia would lead to more chaos in Malaysia if he runs the show. Barisan Sosialis would make it even more worst.<br /> Remember what happen in China whenever Mao took over....<br /><br />Ktemoc,<br /> As for LKY or PAP, you have forgotten to factor in few people.....There are big 3 there. Rajaratnam, Goh Keng Swee & Toh Chin Chye. Rajaratnam was bred in Serembam......where Malaysia PAP or DAP was established in the first place.....Devan Nair can be as "brutal" as LKY....He controls the Unions (NTUC)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-32977213922465968642010-10-04T11:27:28.267+08:002010-10-04T11:27:28.267+08:00It does look very much like a herculean task for t...It does look very much like a herculean task for the DAP to garner support from the Malay community.<br /><br />If you read all those pro-Umno blogs and other websites maintained by Malay writers, plus their commenters, you'll get the impression that many Malays have a deep distrust, fear, and dislike for the DAP which they view as anti-Malay and anti-Malay culture.<br /><br />The DAP may have an almost impossible task in trying to correct the misperceptions the majority of Malays have towards them, and to earn their trust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com