tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post4050416524535620969..comments2024-03-19T18:44:28.696+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Psychedelic psychic power?KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-15059313366057959542012-12-29T16:15:35.874+08:002012-12-29T16:15:35.874+08:00God save us from these obdurate mandarin nazi........God save us from these obdurate mandarin nazi.....kakakaka. The least you can do is to check out how millions of cantonese pronounce 'vomit blood' laa.<br /><br />Another chinese phrase specially for you ( kakakakak ): mmo yeok yee, which refers specifically to those mentally challenged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-481545717930488562012-12-29T14:47:38.323+08:002012-12-29T14:47:38.323+08:00Of course this is a merry-go-around because seems ...Of course this is a merry-go-around because seems like a pretty straight-forward question to me but alas not much of an answer from you as yet beside repeating the remark of Umno and Malay fault, that there are some Indian and few towering Malay. I’m not sure how much more specific I can be but that is fine if you choose to ignore them, we move on.<br /><br />Cantonese for vomit blood is ou xue (呕血),Mandarin can be both tu xue (吐血) or ou xue (呕血), Hokkian or Min language I dont know, but I am curious does that laughing devotee of yours ever have an argument? Cuz I’ve yet to see one from him. Wake me up when he come up with something however small and trivial, it be a start. (In Cantonese - 成年人讲野,细路唔好撑乱歌柄.)<br /><br />Ps/ see, dap blind devotee can be anglo that can’t even write his own name in Hanzi and his mother language.<br /><br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-35576779121651094232012-12-29T12:45:50.076+08:002012-12-29T12:45:50.076+08:00The road to entitlements, and ultimately, riches i...The road to entitlements, and ultimately, riches is called Jalan UMNO 87, a tried, proven, and well-used road. Other roads are unknowns and risky. As Tanah Melayu said, "stop dreaming ya".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-17675944291318853862012-12-29T08:35:08.694+08:002012-12-29T08:35:08.694+08:00KT...aww huet is actually cantonese. Our chinese ...KT...aww huet is actually cantonese. Our chinese dialects are all about intonation, right ? But agree with you, if spoken in hokkien, it should be ow heut and the better one tor huet.<br /><br />Anyway.... happy tor huet-ing, what with the merry company we are keeping here :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-54135850190824412602012-12-28T23:19:50.170+08:002012-12-28T23:19:50.170+08:00I presume you're using Hokkien. If so, then &#...I presume you're using Hokkien. If so, then 'ow huet' is correct but very literal. A better phrase would be 'tor huet'.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-53063579794600256632012-12-28T22:05:45.643+08:002012-12-28T22:05:45.643+08:00I know exactly why you are not impressed. To be im...I know exactly why you are not impressed. To be impressed, one must first be able to UNDERSTAND.....so at first instance, sudah fail, how to proceed from there ? There, there, don't fret.....go read a simple cartoon or those mags with more pictures than words, then you'll be impressed, kakakaka. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-76136276553911297272012-12-28T21:57:46.255+08:002012-12-28T21:57:46.255+08:00KT....the chinese have a saying.."aww huet&qu...KT....the chinese have a saying.."aww huet",literally meaning vomit blood. When a person is struck by blind devotion, combined with less than peak EQ cum IQ, those who had the un-enviable task of having to get thru' their thick skulls will have to 'aww huet" laa. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-77513702215727159832012-12-28T20:12:03.593+08:002012-12-28T20:12:03.593+08:00Thank you for your long explanations kt.
I am not...Thank you for your long explanations kt. <br />I am not impressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-70137066107678772592012-12-28T17:51:42.636+08:002012-12-28T17:51:42.636+08:00HY, we're going around in circles because you ...HY, we're going around in circles because you refuse to see what I have already explained.<br /><br />The DAP constitution structures for a CEC of 30, where 20 shall be elected while 10 nominated by party leaders. The issue of meritocracy doesn't come into play or otherwise Tan Seng Giaw would have been elected.<br /><br />I have provided more than adequate explanations on why Malay candidates didn't fare too well (Sakmongkol or Dato Ariff Sabri has also commented on this) and the best performing Malay candidate was Senator Ariffin with 700+ votes. But like Tan Seng Giaw he didn't qualify for the top 20. The party constitution caters for an extra 10 CEC members without the need to be elected, which allows both of them to be nominated into this 10 seats.<br /><br />By contrast to the DAP clean polling, review the last PKR's polling process, which is what you should be concerned about and which Selena Tay should be writing on but I accept these are both your choices.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-4964176265554108322012-12-28T17:37:41.622+08:002012-12-28T17:37:41.622+08:00TM, the provisions of Article 153 was only tempora...TM, the provisions of Article 153 was only temporary in nature and to be reviewed in 1972. Following May 13, Tun Razak conveniently ignored that requirement and launched his NEP (a detailed program based on Article 153) which moved (still does) the 'special position' of the Malays to 'special privileges'. That's a fact. Another fact is UMNO-ites have been abusing the NEP to enrich themselves at the expense of the majority Malay poor. The civil service and university intakes have been distinct abuses of the quotas associated with Malay 'special positions'. KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-42629204258826354312012-12-28T13:25:06.179+08:002012-12-28T13:25:06.179+08:00i am not jealous, kt, i am to expose ur argument f...i am not jealous, kt, i am to expose ur argument for the stupidity it represent, y get jealous for something that isn’t worth a lot?<br /><br />u call it racist bureau but dap leaders were busy doing the same, the balance cec 10 that fill up mainly by non-chinese, y? no more merit n popular chinese ka?<br /><br />deep inside u r just another tm, both u have to justify ur absurdity thru history.HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-49563570243694257242012-12-28T13:19:38.263+08:002012-12-28T13:19:38.263+08:00Tanah melayu,you think Umno cares wo hoods about t...Tanah melayu,you think Umno cares wo hoods about the constitution.Can you give a figure of how many ordinary Malays benefit or are deprived of what is stated under the constitution.You want to benefit,be a crony or ball carrier,even in you are categorised under Tanah Melayu. hentam kuat kuatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-44565203407658065352012-12-28T13:02:31.100+08:002012-12-28T13:02:31.100+08:00Tanah Melayu,
you sound like one smart alec.With y...Tanah Melayu,<br />you sound like one smart alec.With your constitution protects the 'Special position of the Malays".<br /><br />When Umno B or Umnoputras do not think so as what the constitution says,what are you going to do about it.Do you not see that Umnoputras,their family members and cronies only benefit from corruption.If all the riches of the land were to be shared equally, there will not be so much practice of rampant corruption or cronism.<br /><br />Then Umno/BN will ruled the land forever.But alas,by being so greedy they will be shown the back door this coming GE.And if you think so much of the constitution,you wouldn't be so supportive of the corrupted Umno.the gaffe guy who knowsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-75887949902618179072012-12-28T12:36:45.103+08:002012-12-28T12:36:45.103+08:00HY, why only 8 Malay candidates out of 68 for the ...HY, why only 8 Malay candidates out of 68 for the CEC? I read in one of the newspapers (MKINI, TMI, FMT?) that Malay in DAP is currently at less than 10% of the total membership. 10% of 68 CEC candidates would be 6.8 which works out roughly as 8 Malay candidates. Does that answer your question?<br /><br />As for your other question, why "there is very less Malay member in DAP when the party has been bragging their multiracial makeup", the explanation for the first part (relatively few Malay members) has been given many times over - I don't want to repeat myself or that of DAP members. The answer for the second part (DAP's multiracial makeup) is evident by 7 Indian MPs and 11 Indian ADUNs (excluding a frog who was the erstwhile 12th DAP ADUN) - no political party including MIC and especially PKR, none at all, can match this, unless you are arguing Indians in DAP do not constitute the party's multiracial credentials?<br /><br />In 2004, in the Chinese heartland of the Bukit Bendera federal constituency (thus a prestigious seat in Chinese eyes) DAP stood a Malay candidate Zul Mohd Noor who came close (considering BB was/is a Chinese heartland) to defeating the Gerakan candidate Chia Kwang Chye, who was no ordinary joe in Chinese eyes.<br /><br />There's no need to explain to you how DAP appeals to more Malay membership when the stark fact of its new members in the outstanding persons of Ariff Sabri, Aspan Alias, Lt Col Rosli (a lawyer in Seremban), etc speaks for itself.<br /><br />DAP doesn't need racial bureaus in its party structure to further divide Malaysian society.<br /><br />And don't be so jealous of DAP's success.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-10060722260972782122012-12-28T12:35:11.826+08:002012-12-28T12:35:11.826+08:00Please read and understand the Malaysian constitut...Please read and understand the Malaysian constitution as well as the historical context in 1957. <br />The constitution protects the "Special position of the Malays". It was not and is not meant to be any sort of means-tested social safety net for poor Malays. I read it as providing an enabler for Malays to participate in all levels economic activity in Malaysia - yes, including Malay ownership of the largest business enterprises.<br /><br />It is actually a very progressive constitution, bearing in mind the world in 1957. Australia was still practicing a "Whites Only" immigration policy, and USA was stil a heavily segregated country.<br /><br />There had not in history, and has not since , as far as I know, any other nation which offered citizenship under such easy terms to so many who had originated from somewhere else. <br /><br />In fact, Tanah Melayu had no pre-existing legal obligation to offer these economic migrants citizenship. The only exception I'm aware of was the Straits Settlements - Penang and Melaka, which were outright British territory, and those born there were considered British subjects, which the Federation was obliged to accept as citizens upon Independence.<br />Of course, there were major quid pro quos traded in the Independence negotiations. <br />Tanah Melayu needed the economic contribution of the Chinese and the Indian migrants, and the Federation needed to address the dissatisfaction over their uncertain status which was helping to fuel the Communist insurgency.<br />The trade-off the Malays insisted upon was the recognition of the Special Position of the Malays with regard to wide areas of economic activity.<br /><br />Those are the terms which your Ah Kongs or Ah Pahs agreed upon, in return for citizenship, even for those born in China.<br />I don't suggest DAP or any other Chinese groups attempt to reopen the negotiations. <br />There are also many in the Majority race who would be very keen to renegotiate the Constituational position of Islam and Shariah laws in Malaysia - I'm not one of them, but just Be careful what you ask for. Tanah Melayunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-85888509583195964082012-12-28T12:06:59.143+08:002012-12-28T12:06:59.143+08:00We know the following facts:
1) DAP, rightly or wr...We know the following facts:<br />1) DAP, rightly or wrongly, have been demonised endlessly by government politicians, media, blogs etc as a Chinese chauvinist party.<br />2) In the present political set-up of the country led by UMNO, Malays have more privileges accorded to them than the non-Malays (notwithstanding UMNO's loot & plunder).<br />3) The gravy train is more likely to operate unfettered in UMNO than in DAP.<br /><br />Why then would a Malay gravitate towards DAP? Is it :<br />a) altruism? <br />b) hedging their bets? <br />c) misled?<br />d) ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-3303844746397047342012-12-28T11:36:18.845+08:002012-12-28T11:36:18.845+08:00who is tony pua / teo nie ching / liew chin tong b...who is tony pua / teo nie ching / liew chin tong b4 2008? does the dap malay allowed the same opportunity similar to this 3? or malay not qualify enough to contest in a "prestigious" seat? HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59795085012519416022012-12-28T11:21:01.601+08:002012-12-28T11:21:01.601+08:00I think the article by Retired Commander S Thayapa...I think the article by Retired Commander S Thayaparan <br /><br />http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/216973<br /><br />is a very good, level-headed and responsible outsider's critique of the outcome of the DAP CEC elections.<br /><br />The openness and accountability of the CEC polls is not in question. But what it reflects of the DAP members thinking is.<br /><br />Read it with an open mind. <br />It would be great if some DAP leaders and supporters take the trouble to really understand the issues that he has brought up.Subangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-27098182077185182212012-12-28T11:19:05.943+08:002012-12-28T11:19:05.943+08:00There is sizable Malay that gave their vote to DAP...There is sizable Malay that gave their vote to DAP in 2008 and all you people can talk is turning back the clock 50 years. When people accuse DAP for not being exclusive because there is no single Malay voted into the CEC, typical reply is fierce competition as if other party all having amity election. A more relevant question is why only 8 Malay contest in the CEC and why there is very less Malay member in DAP when the party has been bragging their multi-racial makeup and often labels others as racist, DAP leader, member and supporters don’t use mirror ke?<br /><br />Yes you can always appoint Malay into the CEC then what make DAP difference with BN, and PKR so call window dressing, and don’t forget the appointed Tunku that still harping day night like a mad dog, so how this help to make DAP more inclusive? Selena talk about a Malay bureau with objective to recruit more Malay member while people like you keep throwing irrelevant jab and divert the topic, ok, PKR / UMNO ranting aside, if I may direct your attention back to DAP and enlighten us how DAP could recruit more Malay? Or own up and tell us you have no idea how to do that? <br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-66284778745693859712012-12-28T09:49:01.039+08:002012-12-28T09:49:01.039+08:00Anon, there are two separate issues, to wit, party...Anon, there are two separate issues, to wit, party elections and public elections. Both are governed by separate constitutions and rules, the former by party constitution and the latter by the Malaysian Constitution.<br /><br />For example, MCA party elections (different process from DAP) saw Dr CSL become president because the majority of the MCA party delegates said so.<br /><br />In a separate and independent survey poll (let's pretend it's a public presidential election for MCA party with Chinese Malaysians only as voters), Chinese wanted OTK as the MCA president.<br /><br />But regardless of who was more popular among the Chinese, the MCA delegates wanted CSL as their MCA president, full stop, and there's buggerall anyone outside the MCA could do.<br /><br />As known, the polling process of some party elections had not been seen as kosher wakakaka, sorry, oh WTK, wakakaka again.<br /><br />For example, it's public knowledge that Ali Rustam was barred from a previous UMNO election because of money-politics, though many wakakaka-ed it was hilarious to bar anyone in UMNO party elections for money-politics. Most speculated that accusation of money-politics was selectively used against Ali Rustam to enable Muhyiddin to become deputy president of UMNO and by default DPM.<br /><br />Party deputy president theoretically will one day become party president WAKAKAKA and I'm not referring to UMNO alone wakakaka.<br /><br />Of course BN has done the shameful but totally legal act of resurrecting (politically) BN candidates like Koh TK and Shahrizat.<br /><br />As for Mukhriz Mahathir being made a deputy minister, it's all legal because the PM can co-opt anyone (either elected as a MP or made a senator via the back door) to become a minister. It's of course bizarre that the UMNO Youth chief, KJ, has not been made a minister while his YOUTH Wing junior Mukhriz and indeed UMNO Youth deputy chief have been made ministers (or deputies), but that's the PM's prerogative and for the UMNO party president to answer to his Youth Wing.<br /><br />The only minister that must be elected (and cannot be from the Senate) is the PM.<br /><br />I'm quite clear but what about you, are you clear now? wakakaka.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-76976106507081940282012-12-28T09:26:06.507+08:002012-12-28T09:26:06.507+08:00Rather than call it a blame on UMNO, I suggest tha...Rather than call it a blame on UMNO, I suggest that it's putting historical realities or facts in perspective so we can evaluate the situation in context. It's not helpful nor objective accusing the DAP of not being inclusive when that's patently untrue.<br /><br />The DAP CEC has been an outcome of democratic voting of 'known' candidates. DAP did not rig its polling process to an extent that insiders or/and outsiders questioned the kosher-ness of its clean polls, unlike that for another party wakakaka.<br /><br />As I mentioned, and also by Dato Ariff Sabri (blogger Sakmongkol AK47), there was a dearth of publicity/promotion of the Malay candidates for the DAP CEC, notwithstanding which saw Senator Ariffin gained 700+votes. Thus, promoting and publicising Malay, Indian and East Malaysian candidates is an important item for DAP as a party to consider for the next party election.<br /><br />It's a keen contest for the nearly 70 candidates for only 20 spots in the party CEC, and according only 20 succeeded. Thus 48 candidates lost out, among which were mainly Chinese, and unfortunate 8 Malays and some Indians like Penang CM II Dr Rama. Even the party (former) deputy chairperson Tan Seng Giaw was not spared from the democratic process and failed to be elected into the Top 20.<br /><br />It's sad that "some" PKR members continue to sinisterly exploit the DAP's very open and fully accountable polls and to distort the reality of the actual situation so as to badmouth DAP as a Chinese racist party (okay, they used the word 'not inclusive' but WTF which means the same thing).<br /><br />However, I must compliment (gasp, gawd, omigos, wakakaka) Anwar Ibrahim for commenting as expected of an ally and the nominal head of Pakatan on the DAP party elections.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-3543200478622192252012-12-28T08:59:43.810+08:002012-12-28T08:59:43.810+08:00kt, all PR are elected.
No favoritism detected.
De...kt, all PR are elected.<br />No favoritism detected.<br />Defeated MCA and MIC politicians are put in as Ministers, made senators to support Najib in Parliament.<br />Umno Baru have many family members bulldozed to important positions, especially Mahathir's son ,from nowhere.<br />Why are you not clear with the Malaysian politics scenario?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-44966313998756500082012-12-28T08:44:57.826+08:002012-12-28T08:44:57.826+08:00anon 1125 / kt, so what would u people suggest to ...anon 1125 / kt, so what would u people suggest to break out of this vicious cycle, continue to blame umno n malay? umno is racist, pkr is window dressing, and dap is on merits n popularity when result clearly indicate we still vote base on race, what rubbish r u people talking about? cant we just ascknowledge there is problem with dap suggest way to fix it, instead of divert the issue to pkr?<br /><br /><br /><br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-21632795112562027752012-12-28T08:05:25.712+08:002012-12-28T08:05:25.712+08:00anything wrong with Karpal clan? Aren't they M...anything wrong with Karpal clan? Aren't they Malaysians, Indians, human beings?<br /><br />What about the Anwar Ibrahim clan? AI himself, wife, daughter and possibly another daughter, and not forgetting the blue-eyed boy?KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-64895764423936443032012-12-28T05:48:32.845+08:002012-12-28T05:48:32.845+08:00monsterbaby,
it all depends on whom you ask.Good ...monsterbaby,<br /><br />it all depends on whom you ask.Good leaders get elected because of their leadership capabilities,and not because of their colours.Malaysians do not need more puppets or cronies to lead them.the toothless fellanoreply@blogger.com