tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post3706704063436148537..comments2024-03-29T21:49:05.495+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Racist MalaysiansKTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-34730591882443480412008-10-06T16:36:00.000+08:002008-10-06T16:36:00.000+08:00A few facts about Sammy.1. Shes a graduate of Tayl...A few facts about Sammy.<BR/><BR/>1. Shes a graduate of Taylors College,in the USM Degree of Persuasive Communication aka a mass communication undergrad.<BR/><BR/>2. 70% of the mass comm lecturers in Taylor's College are indians (see the irony here?)<BR/><BR/>3. She just graduated this year.<BR/><BR/>Firstly i like to praise those who have commented about the whole Sammy fiasco in this blog,many were spot on target while the others just defended her and supported her stereotypes and went along with how its just and she shouldn't be punished.<BR/><BR/>I'm a fellow mass commer and i feel disgusted by her especially when shes from my college. We mass commers are taught on how to avoid stereotypes and how to communicate with the public through media so that our message would be clear cut. She is lying when she says that words has no tone nor sincerity,i believe she was taught social semiotics which basically means the construction of meaning be it through words or objects.<BR/><BR/>Plus,shes 22 years old and has just graduated from mass communication,how could someone of that background insinuate such hatred and racism through her blog? We are taught to avoid stereotypes or making any,dont tell me she forgot what the lecturers were saying especially when she just graduated thats bullcrap.<BR/><BR/>Her apologies arent sincere,try to find the first two apologies,you can see that she defends her statements and dont show any sign of regret and alleged that educated Indians need not worry about what she wrote as it only condemns indians who are not educated. What suddenly indians are two separate groups? Its not a spur of the moment thing,look at her counter arguments in her commentary it was a free for all,she kept defending her racist remarks. She even said that shes a sometimes racist kinda person,its either you are racist or you are not theres no such thing called temporary racism that comes and goes.<BR/><BR/>In her last apology which she made after coming under fire and getting wide publicity, she said that she wears saree to her friends birthday and that means shes not a racist,a dress is still a dress,wearing it doesnt mean you something that you are not,i can wear western clothes that doesnt mean i accept all their values neither does it mean i tolerate their mindset.<BR/><BR/>I believe we can all come to a consensus that a person of her stature should face the music? You have to be accept responsibility for your actions,if you are punished for it,just accept it hopefully you turn out a better person. If kept talking about how her parents feel then we should let all the prisoners lose cause their family feel the same way right?<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>nashnasHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07744005022663597249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-51546091722131157582008-10-06T01:30:00.000+08:002008-10-06T01:30:00.000+08:00Got to give her a break! Don't be hypocrits becaus...Got to give her a break! Don't be hypocrits because all of us be it chinese, malays or indians and others have that reflect inner action to whack anyone with such verbal missiles.<BR/>We should stop pointing our fingers at her as though we have'nt done it in our lifes.I will be dammed if i would not vent my anger if any mother@%$#$ stole my hard earned phone! Would you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-32015542100115003292008-10-05T20:50:00.000+08:002008-10-05T20:50:00.000+08:00who cares if she's a racist? she's hot!who cares if she's a racist? she's hot!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-21954945336476872792008-10-05T16:32:00.000+08:002008-10-05T16:32:00.000+08:00Kaytee, you're too polite to HINDRAF, my friend.I ...Kaytee, you're too polite to HINDRAF, my friend.<BR/><BR/>I have stronger words for those idiots.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://crankshafted.blogspot.com/2008/10/handling-freedom-of-speech.html" REL="nofollow">Handling Freedom Of Speech</A>Cranksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466770053258278747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-60090616495758597222008-10-04T14:11:00.000+08:002008-10-04T14:11:00.000+08:00Hi XieAn,Thank you for the previous postings. I wo...Hi XieAn,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for the previous postings. I would like to compliment you on the depth of the same.<BR/><BR/>Never the less, I am sure we can agree to disagree with full courtesy.<BR/><BR/>Change needs to be initiated at all quarters, top down, and vice versa. The government and politicians alone cannot be allowed to make the changes for the future of our society. This is a far too important issue, on how to teach out children the values of the Malaysian Way, our way!<BR/><BR/>I think PR needs to do its best to come in power through democratic principles, and floor crossing is not undemocratic in any manner so to speak. Any individuals who feels otherwise need to also take into consideration on the possible facts whether our Election Process is fault free to the extend the benchmarked equation at the moment is true image of the possibly reality if the last GE was conducted without any contraversies.<BR/><BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-92185558642589323782008-10-04T13:59:00.000+08:002008-10-04T13:59:00.000+08:00Hi aeromaverick,Below comments was posted on sept ...Hi aeromaverick,<BR/><BR/>Below comments was posted on sept 07, 2008<BR/><BR/>People also must be rational with what Ahmad ismail have said and not be hypocrite as most of us we are racist at one time or other. The difference is that we do not say it out in public as we do not want to hurt other ethnic feeling and this fellow is bold to say it out loud. But on the other hand, what is the meaning of "Freedom of Speech" when some body cannot speak their mind out?<BR/><BR/>Isn't it better that people speak their heart out so that we can see what are the problems. Most Malays ( not only in UMNO ) considered that the non-malay are immigrant, it is not new, because the foundation of Malaysia hasn't been laid correctly. To me how shall we tackle the misconception and change the mind set to accommodate todays environment are more important and not force or fake apologies. Perhaps a campaign from both side of the fence to educate the public how the non-malay struggled during pre and post independent, fight for the country during both world war, sacrifices and contributed greatly to built this nation and Malaysia is the home for all Malaysian would be more fruitful.<BR/><BR/>Thats the change I looking for and not from bad to worst with the act of toppling the government by undemocratic means while many of the differences still remains..<BR/><BR/>Lets built and not destroy, lets engage and not confrontation, lets be partners to complete, let live together and not kill each other.......<BR/><BR/>2:17 PM, September 07, 2008Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-4719137216009665122008-10-04T13:57:00.000+08:002008-10-04T13:57:00.000+08:00sumtimes i wonder if sammy meant all indians ...be...sumtimes i wonder if sammy meant all indians ...besides tamils(south indians)...there are brahmins ..gujeratis n punjabisn the rest.not that im trying to instigate hatred...but jz knowing the perception of an average malaysian<BR/><BR/>i understand sammy is grad frm usm...did usm jz got the apex status? sigh <BR/>probally there is sum truth as why uitm is against opening up to non malays...izit because they perceive sammy represents the mentality of her community?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-12184964499550076672008-10-04T13:54:00.000+08:002008-10-04T13:54:00.000+08:00HiKT nice write on our gurl sammy.well sammy did a...Hi<BR/>KT nice write on our gurl sammy.<BR/><BR/>well sammy did a whammy with her outburst that made some generalisation about a race. did propose she make her blog private if that is what she wanted it to be in the first place. <BR/>so is she ISA candidate since those who replied like threatened all kind of physical abuse at her as well as made equally racist slur against her and her Chinese DNA?<BR/>but sad we have vigilantes who seemed more a pharisee than our simone sammy. it's sad BolehLand likes to persecute those who are kinda of 'ordinary' than those who are even more guilty over this racist thingy. If these pharisees put everyone under ISA protection we will have empty streets, towns and cities similar to those we experience during major festivities<BR/>see sammy in www.jonathan66-my.blogspot.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-45707856068956085192008-10-04T13:42:00.000+08:002008-10-04T13:42:00.000+08:00Dear truth hurts,Like I said earlier,"Do we, the R...Dear truth hurts,<BR/><BR/>Like I said earlier,<BR/><BR/>"Do we, the Rakyat of Malaysia, deserve a homogeneous system of governance, free from all shackles of neo-colonialism brand of policies of the ruling regime? Are we ready for such a change? Can we be genuine and shed the sheeps clothes and show our true face and feelings, without sugar coating? Otherwise it is a case of the trading one bigot policy for another, isn't it?"<BR/><BR/>Cheers :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-56847719247545857692008-10-04T13:34:00.000+08:002008-10-04T13:34:00.000+08:00'I hate Indians. It’s bad enough they are famous f...'I hate Indians. It’s bad enough they are famous for being drunk and rude (most of them anyway). Now they carry the reputation of being stealer, robbers, rapist, idiots, morons, drunkard bastards and list goes on…'<BR/><BR/>'I am not trying to be racist but it always Indian. It’s Indian fault. I don’t care if I am sued for racism.'<BR/><BR/> directly quoted frm sammy chan blog<BR/><BR/>http://sammy-bammy.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-77690648261196726992008-10-04T13:31:00.000+08:002008-10-04T13:31:00.000+08:00Dear XiaAn,Noted, and thank you.CheersDear XiaAn,<BR/><BR/>Noted, and thank you.<BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-52821334029082054802008-10-04T12:57:00.000+08:002008-10-04T12:57:00.000+08:00Hi aeromaverick,If your were to gain access to my ...Hi aeromaverick,<BR/><BR/>If your were to gain access to my earlier post regarding Admad you will note my consistency in this matter.<BR/><BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-55910891681240474102008-10-04T12:48:00.000+08:002008-10-04T12:48:00.000+08:00Dear KLSUSIE, I honestly meant well, and spoke the...Dear KLSUSIE, I honestly meant well, and spoke the truth. That is why I write under a psedo name, so as to express freely.<BR/>Please belief me when I say that there are no "fangs" to any of my comments. Religion and food is a personal choice, and respect and give respect is what I belief in.<BR/>I bore no ill feelings towards any particular races, any where in the world. Ill mannerisms, rudeness, cruelty, jealousy, and all other forms of human negative attitudes are not race specific. If that were not true, how come in some Western Societies, the Indians migrants happen to be doing a lot better than the local populace, as well as, the Chinese over there?<BR/>One will find bad apples in all societies, and crime is not the personal traits of any one race.<BR/>Hope you will not find this comment too caustic in any manner KLSUSIE, for it was not meant to be like that in the first place.<BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-35041270508092067262008-10-04T12:37:00.001+08:002008-10-04T12:37:00.001+08:00if you mean well, that's all i careif what you wro...if you mean well, that's all i care<BR/><BR/>if what you wrote is true, you are a citizen exemplar but unfortunately what you wrote has a tinge of hate and anger.<BR/><BR/>please don't miscontrue that i am defending but i feel i should do my parts to educate the misinformed non-chinese fellow citizen likewise everyone should do his or her parts to allay mistrusts between races.<BR/><BR/>for instance, i am only drawing the good things about the lion city, not saying they are faultless but you quickly shown me your fangs, ready to strike.<BR/><BR/>in S.E.A many natives are jealous of the chnese because they are all over their countries which sadly is the truth but that's history.<BR/><BR/>chinese are here to stay, they are not here just yesterday, many things over few hundred years have become the norm of malaysia.<BR/><BR/>but one thing the natives should remember, the chinese did not conquer their land like the west, they were here to do business, worked and toiled.<BR/><BR/>the chinese school cannot just be torn down at the whims of some bigoted politician citing them as mini china.<BR/><BR/>if the government is sincere, then please come up with a fomula that is agreeable and fair to all, i am sure the chinese school can go.<BR/><BR/>don't just say halal food is good for you and therefore one must live like a muslim...hello?<BR/><BR/>tap the best of each ethnic group while regulate wherever possible and not rigidly snap from one to another with the excuse of equal distribution of wealth.<BR/><BR/>you can't force orang asli to be doctors when they are good at carving or agriculture... so help them florish more in these particular fields.<BR/><BR/>chinese are good in business and business alone with china, taiwan singapore and hong kong are enough to bring sumptious meals for all of us.<BR/><BR/>if we depend on indonesia just because you like them is going to make all malaysian go hungry.<BR/><BR/>be pragmatic and carry on the good work of bringing prosperity to malaysia.<BR/><BR/>stop wasting your energies distrusting the chinese, bring hardship to them while not benefitting yourself <BR/><BR/>i would not want to be royal to the bumi to be disloyal to the malaysians.<BR/><BR/>i hope sammy-incident be a lesson to learn but not a catalyst for racial riots.<BR/><BR/>cheers! qua salah mhh ai gong, susieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-33592680639572187122008-10-04T12:37:00.000+08:002008-10-04T12:37:00.000+08:00To top it off, the blogspace has been exploding wi...To top it off, the blogspace has been exploding with all sort of "cries of liberty" since the last GE. We spoke of the need for Bangsa Malaysia, unity against the reining regime and all that. But when an issue like this comes up, everyone went back to the well defined line of actual control, defined by race.<BR/>Do we, the Rakyat of Malaysia, deserve a homogeneous system of governance, free from all shackles of neo-colonialism brand of policies of the ruling regime? Are we ready for such a change? Can we be genuine and shed the sheeps clothes and show our true face and feelings, without sugar coating? Otherwise it is a case of the trading one bigot policy for another, isn't it?<BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-64653781480918758082008-10-04T12:30:00.000+08:002008-10-04T12:30:00.000+08:00XieAn, I agree with you, as long as you were one o...XieAn, I agree with you, as long as you were one of the chaps who felt the same way when Ahmad made his nazist remarks sometime back. Otherwise, your wise comments will smack of double standards and a whole lot of psedo-intellect analysis to suit ones need of the hour.<BR/>In any case, in a society such as ours, with all its faultlines and sensitivities, we all have to give a huge sense of accommodation to each other's feelings and space for the benefit of doubt on our noble intentions.<BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-14876065534707065172008-10-04T12:16:00.000+08:002008-10-04T12:16:00.000+08:00Get real people, we are far from non racialism, th...Get real people, we are far from non racialism, thats the fact. Why we distinguish and discriminate other ethnic group were due to the growing up environment culturally and experiences acquire from school and working places. We learn the bad about other ethnic group and turn prejudice against them. Yes, off course its hurt when things are said against our liking, but let be honest on this, those racial and biased views were widely talk about among each ethnic group. Most of us are able to manage to deal with the situation to say the right thing at the right time, it is better to be a hypocrite than to be called racialist which is taboo... Ahmad Ismail and now Sammy are bold but naive to say it out, so they got the trademark.<BR/><BR/>But will the punishment get us anywhere? and the answer is big NO. <BR/><BR/>Its always the case that we cannot see our weaknesses and need others to tell us so, perhaps we need to be strong and open minded to accept those criticism and improve on those rightly said.<BR/><BR/>If the Chinese and Malays said that the indians are not trustworthy, then its up to the indians to improve on their trustworthyness. Likewise, if the Indians and Malays said that the Chinese are miser and getting all the wealth, then the rich Chinese should do more on generosity to help the poor. If the Indians and Chinese think that the Malays are lazy, then the Malays should improve on their productivities.<BR/><BR/>That should be one of the changes we opt for which rightly come from us rather than expecting other to do for us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65217159284192198092008-10-04T11:10:00.000+08:002008-10-04T11:10:00.000+08:00Wow Dan, you seems to be a blast from the past! We...Wow Dan, you seems to be a blast from the past! We have a baitor here with in! Along came with the motive of "Divide & Rule, and thou shall rise"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-83398212557642211142008-10-04T11:06:00.000+08:002008-10-04T11:06:00.000+08:00why bother compare ahmad racist remarks with sammy...why bother compare ahmad racist remarks with sammy comments....did ahmad call yellow skin malaysians drunken,bastards? well....u treat ppl the way u want to b treated...kudos to ahmad!<BR/><BR/>and yea..y do yellow skin ppl seem to hav problem wit everyone? their mp insulted muslims for the azan...and they complain of unfair treatment?dammed pigs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-13223563049360654732008-10-04T11:04:00.000+08:002008-10-04T11:04:00.000+08:00I agree with denzook, there more important matters...I agree with denzook, there more important matters of the State that begs for our time rather than this juvenile case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-60487542107962413472008-10-04T11:00:00.000+08:002008-10-04T11:00:00.000+08:00"Cool it man !! Everyone has their outbursts once ..."Cool it man !! Everyone has their outbursts once in a while !!! you won't be talking like this if she's your daughter !"<BR/><BR/>don't think my son/daughter will behave this way! with proper upbringing, no way the child (and this girl is even 22 yrs old!) will write such as this without considering the aftermath.... even old tdm spanked his children to discipline them. she's 22 yrs old. she had to responsible for all her inconceivable action - don't blame parents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-11539863421115550772008-10-04T10:55:00.000+08:002008-10-04T10:55:00.000+08:00calling chinese and indian names such as pendatang...calling chinese and indian names such as pendatang or keling are no tantamount to such statement:<BR/><BR/><I>..they carry the reputation of being stealer, robbers, rapist, idiots, morons, drunk bastards, and the list goes on...</I><BR/><BR/><I>You Indians got no hands and legs to work and earn money is it? .... </I><BR/><BR/>if these statements uttered by some 22yr (not kid anymore, mind you) old lass forgivable and go unpunished, it is a big joke! Especially if it to say that the person is at anger? if her handphone kena robbed, it is because of her stupidity unable to take care of her things (you know this is malaysia, not first world country, even italy there's bound to have robbers and snatch thieves) and instead blaming of herself, she lashed out the whole ethnic and challenge them to sue her. typical silver/platinum spoon feed to her rich mouth brat, she can repent, yeah, repent at jail or kamunting just like some other first world country e.g sgpura did...... since many ppl admire singapore so much.<BR/><BR/>it reminds me in ktm station long ago the guard released the snatch thief after he "pleaded" and repented. can you take this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-63121591242912918252008-10-04T10:34:00.000+08:002008-10-04T10:34:00.000+08:00Well Anonymous, what can I say, it took a such a c...Well Anonymous, what can I say, it took a such a comment for you to react and put up the flag of racist vitimisation, "generalisation" and all that, is it?<BR/>The tone earlier was all about "forgiveness", "lets move on" and all that.<BR/>So, anonymous, did it hurt somewhere deep in you? If yes, that is how exactly how everyone else feels too. Like I said, both the criminals as well as the "generaliser" are guilty, period. And if you feel I am guilty too, Yes, but it is more akin to shooting the messenger trying to get across the message, rather than anything else.<BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-51601940021568750012008-10-04T10:27:00.000+08:002008-10-04T10:27:00.000+08:00Dear KLSUSIE,That is my point. It took such a rema...Dear KLSUSIE,<BR/><BR/>That is my point. It took such a remark from me to bring out the defence in full force from you. You felt the need to explain, the need to find analogy, the need to justify on the first part two parts of my comments. Why? Is it because of years in indoctrination to defend ones race et la?.... Or is it out of some genuine feeling of slight, that has to be browbeaten back. As for how I felt about other races. I was born and brought up in Sabah. I DID NOT COME ACROSS SUCH ATTITUDES TILL I REACHED THE SHORES OF WEST MALAYSIA. And the Chinese in Sabah are definitely different. Maybe that is the reason MCA does not work in Sabah, for that matter in Sarawak. I belief, KLSUSIE, you profess the ideas of PR, but are still enschewed in the realms of BN/MCA chauvinism. Otherwise one would be able to look at issues without the partisan attitudes.<BR/>And then comes the issue of civic sense. I admire Singapore, and feel some of their policies are great, but not all, though they do better in almost all areas compared to Malaysia. But do they do well in all areas compared to the rest of the world?... I do not think in a regimented society one would eventually generate a thinking society, the strenght of creativity et la. Even their leaders such as LKY understands that and have been trying to sort out things along these lines. Try doing this in Singapore, and defend it on the blog, all of us will be watched and warned, to put it mildly.<BR/>Last of all, my race is not important, and I didn't get emotional over these postings, just my observations only.<BR/>To your question of what I think of other races, and what I felt of the Honourable MP being called names; I am self employed, running a company with a staff strenght of 37, in four different countries. No one race dominates under my watch. And all are allowed to express themselves to the hilt, professionally speaking. Nobody thinks that he/she is more important or clever due to his background. I do 100% external business, without any govt patronage so one does not have to think I am patronising anyone or the government in general. Infact, I for one, voted the PR on 8/3.<BR/>My point being, KLSUSIE, one can make a lot of noise about all these things and what the government should do about it, but what are you doing to bring down the wall of misconception and chauvinistic thinking, and create a better sense of fairness, universal thinking, and respect for mankind as mankind in the next generation. Or in other words, are we atleast trying to be true followers of any of the greatest religion that we profess to follow, because all these are definitely talked about in the holy scriptures.<BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-39681923751727791042008-10-04T10:02:00.000+08:002008-10-04T10:02:00.000+08:00denzookCool it man !! Everyone has their outbursts...denzook<BR/><BR/>Cool it man !! Everyone has their outbursts once in a while !!! you won't be talking like this if she's your daughter !Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.com