tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post3259772237557700554..comments2024-03-29T13:53:27.554+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Norway's wealth fund is US$1,000,000,000,000KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-35673255503961090592017-09-14T01:29:43.828+08:002017-09-14T01:29:43.828+08:00U want something prudent for a show?
How about PN...U want something prudent for a show?<br /><br />How about PNB! <br /><br />Setup by Tengku Razaleigh in 1978, using Rakyat's (mostly Non's) money (initial government cash injection + government owned private company shares + enforced acquired 30% Non's company equity at cheap discount) as a seed fund. It actually bloomed during the reign of mamak.<br /><br />PNB has total assets under management of about RM259.49bil currently (Nov2016).<br /><br />PNB was expecting a gross income of RM18.64bil and a net income of RM15.18bil with a return on assets of about 6.1%.<br /><br />PNB has been able to deliver consistent returns to its unitholders, with over RM136bil having been paid out since its inception 38 years ago.<br /><br />PNB is currently the market leader in the local unit trust industry, managing RM220bil in unit trust assets with 12.8 million accounts, representing over a 60% market share in terms of total fund value.<br /><br />PNB is a major investor in Bursa Malaysia with investments of nearly RM170bil or 10% of the market capitalisation of the bourse.<br /><br />At the moment, out of PNB’s investment portfolio, the cash position is about 20% (RM50bil in terms of absolute amount) and fixed income is 4%.<br /><br />The two sour points about PNB r<br /><br />1) WHEN it will ever return the seed money to the country!<br /><br />2) How to be more equitable in the unit trust fund holding distribution towards the B40 MelayuCKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423926161945889390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-81780839253208898242017-09-13T16:06:12.792+08:002017-09-13T16:06:12.792+08:00and whatever the history of the Norwegian Sovereig...and whatever the history of the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Funds, at least the Norwegians have something to show for its careful prudent investments unlike a certain wastrel in Malaysia who brought our nation severe criticism like what Barry Wain wrote in his bookKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-60225305303767373412017-09-13T16:03:23.937+08:002017-09-13T16:03:23.937+08:00be that as it was, the Norwegian sovereign wealth ...be that as it was, the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund started ONLY in 1998. Maybe like Malaysia, initially it used the oil wealth on other projects though I am certain not on stuff like Petronas Tower, bailing out this and that profligate projects and nonsense, even on a personal basis, and recklessly wasting our national wealthKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-40906199276621069292017-09-13T12:17:59.737+08:002017-09-13T12:17:59.737+08:00For your information, the largest Norwegian oil ...For your information, the largest Norwegian oil field was discovered in Norwegian waters in 1967.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekofisk_oil_field<br /><br />This I know well, as I have met a person who spent some time working on that rig before.Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694084861364885645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-84282815636853794782017-09-13T12:14:04.206+08:002017-09-13T12:14:04.206+08:00You obviously don't know the subject you are t...You obviously don't know the subject you are talking about - just pure hatred for 1 person.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway<br /><br />The Norwegian Sovereign fund in its current form since 1998 for better management - but it was founded by transferring assets from a previous fund founded in 1967. Oil was discovered in Norwegian waters in 1967.<br /><br />"The Government Pension Fund – Norway (Norwegian: Statens pensjonsfond Norge, SPN) was established by the National Insurance Act (Folketrygdloven) in 1967 under the name National Insurance Scheme Fund (Norwegian: Folketrygdfondet). Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694084861364885645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-91003416139025344622017-09-13T11:42:24.659+08:002017-09-13T11:42:24.659+08:00stop bullshitting to save your idol's reputati...stop bullshitting to save your idol's reputation.<br /><br />I quote: <i>Established in 1998 to save oil and gas revenues for future generations, the wealth fund is now worth about 2.5 times Norway’s annual gross domestic product, against original projections it would peak at 1.3 times of GDP in the 2020s.</i><br /><br />T'was just 20 years (from 1998) not bloody 40 years.<br /><br />In fact it was Malaysia which started its oil industry in 1974, more than 40 years ago. If Malaysia had put aside a decent fraction of the wanton profligacy going on since 1981, it would have a fairly substantial amount of sovereign wealth funds, maybe by extrapolating from Norwegian funds, and with the correct investment team as per the Norwegians (not a dictator), about around 500 Billion US$ or 2 Trillion ringgit.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-53416440112564338692017-09-13T11:30:51.878+08:002017-09-13T11:30:51.878+08:00Norway was already a fairly advanced OECD economy ...Norway was already a fairly advanced OECD economy when oil was discovered in North Sea waters in the late 1960s.<br /> <br />Norway never faced having to spend huge amounts to bootstrap up a 3rd World economy, so a wise decision was to place the oil surplus into a wealth creation fund , which has accumulated vast sums after 40 years of oil and gas.<br /><br />In Malaysia, we have Wealth Destruction Funds. <br />1MDB's total long term liabilities are RM 38 Billion. <br />Most of those liabilities were from loans taken out. Where the cash accrued from the loans went God only knows.<br />Most of it is in "Units" worth ???. <br /><br />Compare that to Norway's gilt-edged asses.<br /><br />Its "Assets" were given at FireSale prices by the Government. Essentially given free , stolen from future generations. There is an Idiotic Blogger here who thinks that is A-OK, not bad<br /><br />1MDB is not a 30-year old story. It is happening - TODAY. We CANNOT, MUST Not close our eyes to the scandal.<br /><br /><br />Malaysia had spent a huge amount of its oil wealth on infrastructure in 1980's and 1990's.<br />You have to have lived in a rural area to realise just how much the country has improved from 1980 to now. Roads, rural electrification - my parent's home had no 24 hour electricity supply in the 1970's, schools - I travelled 20 Kilometers daily during my secondary school days in the 1970's, water supply - I had no pipe water in my home for the first 10 years of my life.<br /><br />I hate the Racism, the Corruption, the Kleptocracy in the country, including in the 1970s , 1980's, 1990's , 2000s, 2010s, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.<br /><br />Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694084861364885645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-37890187793480535752017-09-13T09:20:25.261+08:002017-09-13T09:20:25.261+08:00bnm no proper signature so remain mystery. 1mdb go...bnm no proper signature so remain mystery. 1mdb got signature oso remain mystery. the blogger that attack the former but not latter is no mystery, sure a dedak eater.HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.com