What did 20 years of western intervention in Afghanistan achieve? Ruination
Britain’s justifications for invading were having influence and deterring terror. They are just neo-imperialist platitudes
‘Tony Blair sent Clare Short to eliminate the poppy crop. Whatever she did, it increased production from six provinces to 28.’ Poppy growing in Helmand, 22 March 2021.
Photograph: Ghulamullah Habibi/EPA
Fri 16 Apr 2021 21.40 AEST
Fri 16 Apr 2021 21.40 AEST
The longest, most pointless and unsuccessful war that Britain has fought in the past 70 years – its intervention in Afghanistan – is to end in September. I doubt anyone will notice. Nations celebrate victories, not defeats.
kt notes: Not true where the British have been concerned. She turns her humiliating military defeat at 'Dunkirk' into a 'victory' of sorts, at least for the moral of her people, thanks to 'creative' British press
Dunkirk WWII |
Twenty years ago the United States decided to relieve its 9/11 agony not just by blasting Osama bin Laden’s base in the Afghan mountains, but by toppling the entire Afghan regime. This was despite young Taliban moderates declaring Bin Laden an “unwelcome guest” and the regime demanding he leave. The US then decided not just to blast Kabul but invited Nato to launder its action as a matter of global security. Britain had no dog in this fight and only joined because Tony Blair liked George W Bush.
American and British troops roamed the country, signing up warlords or setting up new governors. Visiting Kabul at the time, I was told of Nato’s ambition to wipe out terror, build a new democracy, liberate women and create a “friend in the region”. I had an eerie sense of Britain in 1839 embarking on the First Afghan War.
Most Americans at the time wanted to get out, and concentrate on nation-building in Iraq. It was the British who were eager to stay. Blair even sent a minister, Clare Short, to eliminate the poppy crop. Whatever she did, it increased production from six provinces to 28, and raised poppy revenue to a record $2.3bn (£1.7bn).
Spin forward to 2005, and the British army was in full imperial mode, itching to march south with 3,400 troops and conquer Pashtun Helmand. The British commander, General David Richards, was adamant that it would be just a matter of winning hearts and minds in friendly “inkspot” towns. His defence secretary, John Reid, hoped this would be achieved “without firing one shot”. They had fun giving their operations names such as Achilles, Pickaxe-Handle, Sledgehammer Hit, Eagle’s Eye, Red Dagger and Blue Sword.
Everything in Helmand went wrong. The expedition had to be salvaged by 10,000 American marines. Four hundred and fifty-four Britons died.
The Russians, who had been forced out of Afghanistan a decade before, were privately amazed at the ineptitude of the western operations – and publicly delighted. Gordon Brown, by then prime minister, was forced implausibly to explain in 2009 that British troops were dying in Helmand to make Britain’s streets safe.
Since then, most of Nato has retreated, hoping against hope that diplomacy would rescue the Kabul government and the west from abject humiliation. Three US presidents have pledged various forms of “surge and depart”, but lacked the political nerve to go through with them. Even Joe Biden has extended a May deadline to September. Each has done just enough to keep the puppet regime in Kabul safe without returning to full-scale imperial rule.
America’s 2,300 troops and their air support will now leave, as will Britain’s 750 (as one senior UK defence source told the Guardian: “If they [the US] go, we’ll all have to go,”). For the US, the cost has been high: 2,216 dead and more than $2tn spent. Billions in “aid” are said to have left Afghanistan, much of it to the Dubai property market. The cost to Afghan civilians has been appalling, put at between 50,000 and 100,000 deaths over the two decades, all in retaliation for “hosting” the 9/11 attackers. Is that what we call western values?
As a senior US official said this week, when President Biden fixed his new deadline: “The threat against the homeland from Afghanistan is at a level we can address.” That has surely been the case for years in Britain as in America, yet we are still there.
The latest peace talks in Qatar are going nowhere. The reason is obvious: that the Taliban need only to wait for September, when they can do as they choose. The current regime may hold Kabul for a while, but if it can barely govern with American help, it can hardly do so alone.
Left alone back in 2001, the Taliban leadership – with which US intelligence was already liaising – would have dealt with Bin Laden. It would have been held in check by its local warlords and by the Pakistani army. Instead, the Pashtun have been left to rampage for two decades, financed by western heroin users. The worst it has suffered is the decimation of its senior figures by US drones, to absolutely no effect. Afghanistan will need these people to contain another product of Nato intervention: the country is now a focus of Islamic State activity.
What has the US and UK intervention achieved? The military theorist Gen Sir Rupert Smith, in his book The Utility of Force, has pointed out that modern armies are almost useless in counter-insurgency wars. They have roamed the Middle East from Afghanistan to Libya, “creating one ruined nation after another”. Britain’s sole justification is the hoary Foreign Office cliche about having influence, deterring terror and standing tall in the world. They are neo-imperialist vacuities. In a world of apologies, some mighty big ones are due in September.
Simon Jenkins is a Guardian columnist
this writer n guardian is traitor, a communist n islamist ass licker.
ReplyDeleteFart well dwelling katak's standard chorus when facing the REAL truth of the demoNcratic world they so praised!
DeleteThe proponents r condemned no end while they REFUSED to see the f*cked atrocities happening around that fart filled well!
Sparkle of faraway dirts cannot be tolerate d while a raging bull right in front is ignored!
That how these mfers r been indoctrinated.
Simon Jenkins published a piece of propaganda, not news.
ReplyDelete"
Left alone back in 2001, the Taliban leadership – – would have dealt with Bin Laden. "
That is a lie - the Taliban did no such thing.
The following is a clipping from the Irish Times at the time -I deliberately picked a non- British paper.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/taliban-says-bin-laden-is-guest-1.1123772%3fmode=amp
"Afghanistan's Taliban rulers, accused of sheltering Mr Osama bin Laden, said yesterday there was no proof that the Saudi-born national was engaged in terrorist activities.
Bin Laden is our guest. We will not gand him over to foreign countries."
Right question but directed at the wrong people. Don't pose the question at the occupying forces but at the occupied people.
ReplyDeleteWhat did the Afghans achieve when given the opportunity to rid themselves of the cruel warlords and Taliban? Decades of occupation by the Soviets and western forces but the local warlords were only interested in strengthening their own power base, using religion as an excuse to opress their own people.
The Soviets had enough, pull out, now the same with the western forces.
Now compare with the French who were kicked out of Viet Nam. Did the Vietnamese moan and groan? No, they kicked out 500 yo Bully as well. But after that they were fren fren, today Viet Nam's top trading partner is the US.
After the western forces kicked out the Nazis in WW2, Germany prospered because of the hard-working Germans, who embraced trade and cooperation with the west.
Same for Japan, after Hiroshima and Nagasaki Japan quickly became the second largest economy in the world, through their hard work and cooperation with the west. No moaning and groaning or blaming others.
Even 5000 yo Bullyland benefitted from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they were liberated from the cruel Japanese soldiers, as KT keeps reminding is with his masthead, the Chinese woman getting decapitated by a Japanese soldier's sword.....ha ha ha...but not a word of thanks from 5000 yo Bullyland to 500 yo Bullyland. But never mind, through their hard work they also became the second largest economy in the world, on their own, don't keep moaning and groaning or blaming others. Now so powerful, annexing surrounding territories....Inner Mongolia, Tibet, Xinjiang...etc
India was occupied by the British for centuries, but what happened after achieving independence? They remained close to the British, no moaning and groaning blaming others for this and that, today India has overtaken Britannia, today even the British Finance Minister is of Indian heritage...ha ha ha... how come Pakistan, who share the same history with India, are the mess they are today?
South Korea was occupied by 5000 yo Bullyland, today it is an economic powerhouse.
So direct the question at the Afghans....What have Afghans achieved, given decades of opportunity by occupying western forces?
The Tipu man TS is still bleating his flawed story about how the US " saved " China from the Japs....it shows he has zero knowledge of Chinese history, but in his massive ignorance, continue to struts about spreading this myth...Bahalol hehe.
DeleteImperial Japanese Army massacred 30 million Chinese showed the fierce resistance and even then, the huge Chinese population still standing in spite of the killing rampage were still too huge for the Japs to prevail. America NEVER fought for China. They attacked Japan because the Japs tried to sink the Pacific Fleet in Pearl Harbour.
In the Battle of Iwo Jima, it took 110,000 US troops a WHOLE month to defeat 21,000 Japanese troops.
In the meanwhile, China was fighting with 2 million Japanese troops ( IJA ). If it wasn't for the Chinese soldiers keeping the Japs occupied, the US soldiers would've had to deal with 50 times more IJA.
So, did US save China ? What are you talking about ? Go learn some real history. This bombing of the two cities in Japan has nothing to do with ending the war...the US if it really want to threaten Japan, it could easily drop only ONE bomb and not necessarily in populated area which maimed and killed millions of innocents..this is barbaric. As mentioned earlier, this barbarous act was to show its fist at Russia and also to threaten China too. Saving China ?? Hilarious.
Go eat more rice TipuTS....if you continue to consume too much Western propaganda, this is how you end up with shit on your face, wa ka ka ka. Only an OCBC has the audacity to ask the Chinese to thank the barbaric Whiteys, worse than Si Kitol, this Orang-Cina-Bukan-China breed.
So many excuses targeted at the Taliban!
ReplyDeleteTruly terbalik about the casualties of the events when dealing with the stirring hands of yr demoNcratic dickhrads.
Have u mfers, known how Taliban was formed, nurtured & turnaround into the evil force u r now condemned?
Look no further then pommie first then Yankee later!
Wherever the US of Aggression ( USA ) goes, they instigate trouble, division and disunity. Divide and Rule is their M.O. Ruination is the result for the unfortunate countries where the US sets its greedy eyes.
ReplyDeleteThis article by Chas W. Freeman Jr could not have come at a more timely manner, though I do think he is speaking to deaf ears and all his advice will be studiously ignored and he himself might be ostracised for voicing his opinion :
" We were alarmed about China’s potential to outcompete us internationally, so we decided to try to cripple it with an escalating campaign of “maximum pressure.” We saw China as a threat to our continued military primacy, so we sought to contain and encircle it. Cumulatively, we have:
- declared China to be an adversary and called for regime change in Beijing;
-launched an invective-filled global propaganda campaign against China, its ruling Communist Party, and its fumbled initial response to COVID-19;
-sanctioned allies and partners for failing to curtail their own dealings with China;
-replaced market-driven trade with China with government management of economic exchanges based on tariffs, quotas, sanctions, and export bans;
- or attempted to sabotage international organizations in which we deemed Chinese influence to be greater than ours;
-kneecapped the WTO, trashing the rule-bound order for international economic relations we had taken seven decades to elaborate;
-attempted to block Chinese investment and lending in third countries;
-blacklisted Chinese companies and delisted them on our stock markets;
curtailed visas, criminalized scientific exchanges, and banned technology exports to China;
-closed a Chinese consulate (losing one of our own as a result) and initiated tit-for-tat reductions in reporting by journalists;
-sought to terminate Chinese sponsorship of language teaching in our country, and discouraged in-country study by potential federal employees;
-reidentified the United States with Beijing’s civil war adversary in Taipei and violated the Taiwan-related terms of U.S. normalization with Beijing;
-stepped up provocative air and sea patrols along China’s borders; and
begun to reconfigure both our conventional and nuclear forces to fight a war with China in its near seas or on its claimed and established territory."
The rest of the article at :
https://chasfreeman.net/playing-war-games-with-china/