tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post970568938297365404..comments2024-03-28T23:42:23.455+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Marginalization of Indians - the true storyKTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-15920304608502534232013-03-26T09:37:10.927+08:002013-03-26T09:37:10.927+08:001) Yes, although there is no official public repor...1) Yes, although there is no official public reports of the Gini coefficiency, the widening gap is apparent. Therefore, as mentioned the government is painfully aware that ruling 1.3 billion people without closing the gap, weeding out corruption, they are sitting on a tinderbox. However, seeing Glasnost and the long lines waiting to buy bread post Glasnost plays in the minds of officials.<br /><br />The break-up of the Soviet state was also equally painful. As one can see, they also have their own "restive" provinces. Therefore, Western democracy may not work in pulling the country together.<br /><br />2) I doubt that many of us here (in this blog) are not the Aku Cina type. We need to be honest unlike some... Aku Cinas. The greatest self-criticism of the Chinese is that we can and may be ready to sell ourselves and everything around us for wealth and self-presevation. Modern Chinese (China) examplifies this. This is why the Chinese saw a loop-hole in the NEP and the rise of the Ali-Baba model. Chinese are not interested to run the country or to play a more proactive role (except the younger generation like elsewhere who feel that the older generation has failed to address theirs) but to play a more background role economically. This may be generalizing things too much but they are personal views.<br /><br />Deng Xiao Peng said that much can be accomplished if China remain low key but becoming stronger each day. The last 20 years has proven him right.... subtility.. which our detractors may be partially right.<br /><br />3) The "other option" is already in place... Chinese venacular school or international school, private colleges or to Singapore and worst case scenario, overseas, then everyone packs the bag and leaves. Its the left-behinds that need to plod on who are mainly from the venacular school, then drop off the educational cliff since family resouces are limited either in finances, initiative or command of other languages. Case in point is the JB girl who stomped on Najib's photo.<br /><br />Therefore, the NEP is most damaging in this aspect.. not a cohesive plan to uplift the standards of the country across board by a single education system that befits globalization and works on meritocracy. Therefore, things like a quota system in civil service, armed forces etc are the least of our worries if the education base is in place.<br /><br />Anyway, cheers bro...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-9395040662116541052013-03-26T08:56:58.129+08:002013-03-26T08:56:58.129+08:00Ouch! We all now turned into a wakaka or at least ...Ouch! We all now turned into a wakaka or at least become a commenters with wakaka characteristic :)<br /><br />1) I think only less than 10% can have the option you mentioned. read the sad affair of their migrant laborers, China today sound more like a capitalist's republic rathar than one peoples's republic. <br /><br />2) I am a proud Chinese (not the aku cina type) and i believe i know both the Chinese good and bad pretty well and deep. We are no different from Indian and Malay to shitf blame to others, Malaysian style, and i think you overrate the Chinese. <br /><br />However bro, your assertion on the effect toward chinese pertaining to education system is insightful, thus the preserve of the Chinese school at the current stage is a must no matter how some people criticize this and complain that. This is also what you call as "other option". <br /><br />Lastly, happy wakaka. HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-82664173257621149852013-03-25T20:30:36.517+08:002013-03-25T20:30:36.517+08:00Hahaha.. I've always enjoyed your comments her...Hahaha.. I've always enjoyed your comments here and elsewhere, especially the KTee Fanboy thingy. I think we can all have a good laugh on this since life shouldn't be so serious... Looking at things here, its like a big circus.<br /><br />1) My response will be too long but think Ching Dynasty, weak Sun Yat Sen, Cultural Revolution and finally Dengism ("to be rich is glorious" and the cat-mouse analogy). The common citizen isn't interested in democracy. If they prefer a freer society, better enviroment & food safety, they just go overseas with bags of cash and just settle there.<br /><br />2) Chinese like to fight lah!! Busy body... Has the Chinese suffered under the NEP? Look at Forbes list, Chinese occupy 90%. Others are either proxies or the true beneficiaries of NEP. The true beneficiaries of NEP are not even on the list... Wakakaka.<br /><br />The part of the NEP that effects Chinese most is in the education system (especially quotas), not in discounted homes, MARA loans, business assist etc. Agree? Therefore, the NEP is more damaging to other communities and it will eventually consume the Malays themselves since Chinese have other options.<br /><br />3) Ouch too!! WakakakaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-66914576914212342582013-03-25T10:37:03.487+08:002013-03-25T10:37:03.487+08:001) I think democracy ala China style will be fine,...1) I think democracy ala China style will be fine, have you no hear of socialism with Chinese characteristics? But of course essentially whatever style you want, you must at least possess the basic feature of democracy like election, rule of law, freedom of expression, speech and press, and etc, and contrary to authoritarian, the people can often change government without a revolution. And only the Chinese in China can provide an answer whether they want or do not want democracy ala China style, we don’t live there so our opinion is remain as opinion.<br /><br />2) Bro, affirmative action have it pros and cons, however the reality here in Malaysia are every parties be it BN or PR never ever reject affirmative action ie NEP. And it seems the Chinese are one of the fiercest groups that sound critical toward the NEP, no?<br /><br />3) I read Arthur Henderson Smith Chinese Characteristic and I blurted ouch, I read Luxun and I blurted ouch. But somehow I tend to agree with your last 2 paragraph.<br /><br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-89550204668109595692013-03-25T08:13:04.379+08:002013-03-25T08:13:04.379+08:001) Everyone should have a choice to choose whoever...1) Everyone should have a choice to choose whoever they want but which political system works best? Democracy ala US style? Democracy ala India style? Maybe Marxism or redefined socialism? All political systems are like a fragile eco-system. They need to evolve and if change happens, it must come internally not from external forces.<br /><br />But to answer you, every family has different house rules. What works for one not necessarily works for another.<br /><br />2) Every thinking Malay knows that the greatest benefactors and also losers of the NEP are themselves. The longer it runs, it will make the Malays less competitive in the face of globalization in terms of education, technology, social & interlectual development and economically as a people. The second greatest losers are the Indians, Orang Asal, Kadazan, Ibans etc. Chinese are a species of their own. They have had centuries of training - earthquake, floods, famine, epidemics, slavery, war... so just to have a simple meal is enough - ie."have you eaten?" as the main greeting...<br /><br />3) Unfortunately, Malaysian Indians (especially Tamilians) have enmeshed their destiny with MIC. This is not surprising. Bro. Samy in their culture represents the local village leader, hero where one dreams to escape a few moments of misery (giving you hope against all hope), the guru or even swami. We are not being condesending but this is a social and anthropological look at culture. Remember the famous MGR of Tamil movies?<br /><br />Once that "father" figure is displaced, the community is thrown into a tailspin since other claimants to the thrown were disposed of much earlier. Hindraf & Makkal Sakti had a very rare window to rally the Indian power base social-politically but we know the rest of the story. The Chinese who sympathize with the Indian plight also lend support for Hindraf until....<br /><br />For the right or wrong reasons, today Najib has filled that "father-figure" role.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-8127875574812503122013-03-25T01:00:39.514+08:002013-03-25T01:00:39.514+08:00ok keep it short n simple.
1) i think the right q...ok keep it short n simple.<br /><br />1) i think the right question to ask the chinese is do u want to be given a choise to choose your leader n govt.<br /><br />2) during a gathering after stpm result was out, a classmate that score very well said loudly who care about nep as long as we work hard. the rest of us not doing that well can only staring at each other, speechless. it must be our fault that both who got better n worst result deserve something better. since work hard is the answer, we shouldn't criticize nep, right?<br /><br />3) we accuse the 10% of being racist and forget about the 60%, or we do not want to speak about it out of respect? r the 60% barking at the wrong tree as well? if caste is the cause, pray tell what samy vellu can do about it, he is also one indian? HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-12888213169373334292013-03-25T00:38:26.843+08:002013-03-25T00:38:26.843+08:00Thanks KT....for taking the trouble to explain abo...Thanks KT....for taking the trouble to explain about the Buddhism aspect in the Hindu religious belief. <br /><br />Many a times I was quite baffled and rather saddened when my indian friends and acquaintances invariably show their obvious preference for the fairer skin complexion. Have they not heard of "Black Is Beautiful?" First they must love themselves to even tackle this problem. But that does not mean I am making light of this situation, as all these complications faced by them tie back to so many aspects stretching back to hundreds if not thousands of years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-77193034670749828872013-03-24T13:33:24.335+08:002013-03-24T13:33:24.335+08:00aiyah I love being chong hei lah, which was why I ...aiyah I love being chong hei lah, which was why I strated this blog wakakakaKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-33244443230645658192013-03-24T11:58:49.104+08:002013-03-24T11:58:49.104+08:00We have no arguments on your points. In fact, Ind...We have no arguments on your points. In fact, Indian civilization goes even more way back to the Indus valley and the whole concept of Aryan pre-desposition. However, lets talk about today - for example BRIC. As pointed out in this article, India is the largest democratic state vs a so called "totalitarian" China. Visit China today, ask anyone on the streets about curbed civil liberties and they will ask you "what?"<br /><br />China is a "child of its age" - of its past, its culture, its upheavals, its position today and its need to survive tomorrow. Ruling 1.3 billion isn't easy. Her stance against Christianity was a necessary evil especially after seeing the activism of the Catholic Church in Poland and the dismantling of Eastern Europe. But what is her stance today towards Vatican? Then came Glasnost in Russia. After the years of political upheaval and the "oppression" of barbaric foreigners, internal disorder will continue to lead to be weak.<br /><br />But the point being made here is Indians and their evolution as a community in Malaysia and if you want to beg the question, back to their roots in India. The point being made in this article is (esp. Hindraf), "are they barking up the wrong tree?" and "is there a possibility that the political & communal system plus expectations is based on a certain pre-disposition based on culture and world view?"<br /><br />Please see comments from Anonymous9:53 pm, March 23, 2013. In built, a darker skin Indian pays more hommage to a fairer skin Indian. The writer links this to his/her observation that the waiter believed that was accepted because of karma. A few months ago, there was also an outburst on Indian blogs about a fairer skin Indian girl deriding a Tamil (darker skin) person.<br /><br />Sorry to the owner of this blog - too chiong hei. But in conclusion, Hindraf's request for this & that is too melodramatic. Although PKR & PSM are not the force they use to be but take for example Dr. Jeyakumar. The guy who challenged Samy Vellu several times and lost. Considered a Don Quixote by the opposition, now they want to replace him after drinking from the cup of Bacchus. Our point is that if Hindraf believe in themselves, have dignity to go in alone even if there is no support rather than crying papa or mama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-3521942700852731722013-03-24T10:30:18.098+08:002013-03-24T10:30:18.098+08:00there's a saying that a prophet (I use prophet...there's a saying that a prophet (I use prophet in the most generic sense) is never believed/respected in his homeland - which I reckon applies to<br /><br />- Jesus Christ, where Jews consider him an apostate,<br />- initially for Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) in Mecca who was forced to flee to Medina, <br />- John cousin of Jesus, also known as by Christians as John the Baptist, or Yahya ibn Zakariyya, where there is a religious order Mandaeism adoring him as The Messiah,<br />- and to answer your question, Buddha or Siddhatta Gautama.<br /><br />Very few Indians in India (or even elsewhere) are Buddhists though many worship Buddha.<br /><br />The reason for this was when Buddhism first grew in popularity in India (partly because it discarded the caste system) the Hindu priests were worried about losing out completely to the newcomer. They quickly spun the fabrication that Buddha was just an avatar of Lord Krishna and thus by absorbing Buddha as a deity into Hinduism, re-gathered Hindus, even those who converted to Buddhism, back to Hinduism. Today Buddhism is relatively just a minor (almost insignificant) religion in India.<br /><br />To get to the point, Buddhism rejects the nonsense of caste.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-9770252761749453392013-03-23T22:10:07.670+08:002013-03-23T22:10:07.670+08:00Hi Anon, let me speak/question with respect, what ...Hi Anon, let me speak/question with respect, what if we see from tha angle of Japan-China paradigm, Europe-China paradigm and USA-China paradigm, let say between 1840 to 1980? We might have to take into account that China went through the many unfair treaties, wars involced invasion, civil, and borders, revolution to overturn Qing, KMT, failed campaign and policies such as Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, and many millions died. The recent progress largely due to the adoption of capitalism without giving the people much choice in civil and political rights, there are vast difference with India isn’t it? Hu Shih said India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border, I think this is how generally Chinese perceive the spiritual greatness of India though Hu Shih also said practically all the prominent leaders of thought in China today are openly agnostics and even atheists.<br /><br />Reshape thinking is a chicken and egg (education and poverty) problem, these apply across everyone, what is equal opportunities when civil servant include GLC is largely occupied by one race, and private were mostly controlled by Chinese? The biggest impact were the urbanized and nationalized of foreign own plantation that caused the many estate worker loss their livelihoods (I lived quite near to one Socfin Estate), Malay and Chinese suffered much less in this respect, and in no way I see MIC leader is much vary with those at Umno and MCA, all are equally corrupt thus Indian problem are not unique, <br /><br />I don’t know what PRM and PSM have achieved in the past many years, but I doubt BN ever perceived them as crucial enough as an opponent, the local politic on the large part still indulged in issue of race, religion, and sleaze politics, thus PR (PKR) do have their role to fight BN. My critique toward Hindraf is not their race centric position, but lack of stance and consistency, and impatient.<br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-14008428997892378582013-03-23T21:53:12.022+08:002013-03-23T21:53:12.022+08:00My friend's father operated an upscale restaur...My friend's father operated an upscale restaurant and one of the waiters was a Dalit indian. Tall, swarthy and well built, he looks quite glorious in his rather splendid uniform. He gives very good service to all his customers but one could not fail to notice he's especially courteous, (in fact, quite servile) to those light-skinned indians customers who frequented that restaurant. <br /><br />When asked why he 'admires' them so.....he replied that these people deserved the lives they now have, being of 'upper class and rich and fair skinned' (!) According to him, it's his karma that he reincarnated to the lowest rank and must go through such suffering to atone.<br /><br />Is this Hinduism ? Or is this belief Buddhism ? Whatever, people like him seemed to accept their 'fate', hence we see such like him bowing, scrapping and 'kissing the feet' of the higher caste indians ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-37371182933043624282013-03-23T15:16:17.483+08:002013-03-23T15:16:17.483+08:00Oh by the way, NOW YOU FUCKING SEE, NOW YOU FUCKIN...Oh by the way, NOW YOU FUCKING SEE, NOW YOU FUCKING DON'T<br /><br />http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/224713<br /><br />Anyway, this is one of the Indians I admire. Apart from Seenivasagam brothers......hehehehe & his side kick Mak Fei Hong......Hahahaha<br /><br />http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/bersih-vows-to-shame-ge13-candidates-involved-in-political-violence/<br /><br />Oh my fucking god!<br /><br />http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/ec-impossible-to-vote-twice-even-with-double-registration/<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-26871913270613955762013-03-23T13:27:57.600+08:002013-03-23T13:27:57.600+08:00Come on la! You mean you really trust EC hah! What...Come on la! You mean you really trust EC hah! What happen during Sibu by election? Even the returning officer has mentioned the majority wrongly.....hahahaha....DAP doesn't pursue because they wonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-66443394922015181062013-03-23T13:26:37.841+08:002013-03-23T13:26:37.841+08:00Kaytee,
Do care to eleborate more on your su...Kaytee,<br /> Do care to eleborate more on your suffering under the hands of the Indians.......<br /> Like Indians especially from India loves to hire their kampung folks to take on jobs even though you are more competent<br /><br />Kaytee,<br /> Me Fucking spot on right!!!!????? HahahahahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-21292142822548190692013-03-23T11:52:31.578+08:002013-03-23T11:52:31.578+08:00As a twice-born (ahem) Kyshatriya Jat,I can unders...As a twice-born (ahem) Kyshatriya Jat,I can understand why the upper castes are unwilling to give up their dominant position. I can also understand why anyone (including children of coolies from China) does not want to share what they got.<br /><br />I agree with Kaytee that the issue is why should the dalits (harijans) in Malaysia put up with such discrimination. The Malaysian Constitution is clear that all Malaysians are equal. Perhaps that is just in the law. The dalits (mainly Tamil speakers)in Malaysia have a number of choices -- convert to Islam (like Mahathir Kutty) or Christianity like so many others. Bit harder (as they will have to learn to read and write a foreign language) convert to Sikhism which believes in One God and rejects the Hindu caste system.<br /><br />The other choice -- much,much more important -- is to uplift themselves economically through education, hard work (Tamils are no strangers to this) and thrift. They should also patronise each others businesses so that there is a volume of intra-Tamil trade and commerce that will create higher paying jobs for Tamil speakers.<br /><br />But the hardest thing for them (I believe) is to get out of the victim mindset. They must accept their situation is their own problem, that others richer than them are an example and not a threat to them, that nobody owes them a living and only economic progress will give them the respect they truly deserve as our fellow human beings. <br /><br />They must never accept anything less than the best from themselves no matter what their situation in life. Remember that mere abuse from idiots should not stop us from achieving our true potential as a human being.<br /><br />They must stand up and be courageous in face of anything and everything thrown at them. Tamils did this willingly and proudly many times (remember the NUPW that worked so hard to improve the lot of Estate workers?) and even not so long ago when they took on UMNO and endured all the threats (including one from Samy Vellu)and the pain of being attacked with water cannon, etc. <br /><br />They must "tahan susah" as no worthwhile journey is without its trials and tribulations. But each dalit has to have such resolve and work together to uplift their economic situation. Begin small, work together, deal with one another honestly and fairly and stay away from the BIG fish so no scams (e.g.Maika Holdings) can touch you. Start today.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-4563147293250018682013-03-23T11:37:41.652+08:002013-03-23T11:37:41.652+08:00yes HY, we must be brave to admit we're by lar...yes HY, we must be brave to admit we're by large racists of one form or another, whether mildly racist or blatantly so.<br /><br />Thus, along that line, we have to also admit some Indians have shown they were/are racists. In one organization I worked in, I was one of their victims. But I bear no grudge against Indians because I saw (still do) those racist discrimination against me (and other Chinese and even Malays) as that by perverted racist individuals.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-32407096147847339582013-03-23T11:32:13.813+08:002013-03-23T11:32:13.813+08:00NEP is neutral as an entity until it gets perverte...NEP is neutral as an entity until it gets perverted. One would be tempted to reply to RPK's recent discussion on the NEP except that through his logic, others may be wrong since "he was there". Unfortunately a few courses at Cambridge doesn't make a man. With respect to him for age & experience, the Chinese & Indians did not speak up because they loved the system!!<br /><br />As pointed out by his eye witness account, the fighting went on between DSAI & Rafidah... not sure about what but one can figure.. apapap perhaps? wakakaka<br /><br />MCA and Chinese tycoons saw the loopholes and quickly jumped on it. For example, view this video clip on property ("Utopia milik Siapa?")http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hv9bWjgEXtc<br /><br />Does all the developer tycoons getting awards look Indian to you? Malay? Do they look worried about NEP or other mish mash?<br /><br />On the other hand, MIC especially in the hands of smaller brother saw the Ringgit printing presses and fiefdom through the NEP but failed to share this secret with the estate. But some caught on when they bought the first mobile phone or toy aeroplane...wakakaka<br /><br />So now Hindraf wants to bring the community back 50 years and start all over again... except that the action heros have change (sorry to say this but they need to save on the melodrama).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-81682978805351234632013-03-23T10:58:34.951+08:002013-03-23T10:58:34.951+08:00ok, that’s a fair point. but i have to say this, t...ok, that’s a fair point. but i have to say this, the chinese and malay (commercial & government) did discriminate against the indian and this is also a truth, but the sad part is as you write, many indian are not spare from discriminate indian, n that is the ugly part.HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-52621538184963079222013-03-23T10:56:48.873+08:002013-03-23T10:56:48.873+08:00Actually Malaysia had a beautiful plan all along t...Actually Malaysia had a beautiful plan all along to alleviate poverty of all races.<br /><br />It is called the NEP. Those of you from the 1970s will remember the 2 prongs that were catch-phrases for a new dawn in Malaysian society : “poverty eradication regardless of race” and “restructuring society to eliminate the identification of race with economic function".<br /><br />Had those in power faithfully adhered to those words we would not be talking of the Indian poor today. How is it the implementation was allowed to deviate by the government, including MIC politicians who were also part of it? How did it evolved into being associated with privileges for one race only (including the rich ones)?<br /><br />So much so that 'NEP' have now become a antagonistic word in our vocabulary, a divisive chasm in our race relations, its meaning now being associated with inclusiveness vs exclusiveness, privileged vs marginalised.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-62707892119909303082013-03-23T10:52:35.255+08:002013-03-23T10:52:35.255+08:00Dearest HY. I understand your response. This art...Dearest HY. I understand your response. This article shocks my cultural sensitivities especailly before coffee. However, to be honest, if the issue was raised, won't we all be thinking the same, like the China-India paradigm but out of due respect, not speak of it?<br /><br />In his follow-up comments, he has said both Indian & Chinese are a hard working people, with equal opportunities but may be pre-disposition differently. Indians in the US and UK thrive well unless we again want to make a distinction between northern Indians and Tamilians (lets not go down that path).<br /><br />But the distinction for such sucess is that there is no specific Indian political system for Indians in the US or UK. So in Msia, MIC is suppose to take care of the Indians through the auspices of Big Brother. Therefore, Big Brother cuts a share of the pie for the community via MIC disbursement. Then what happens?<br /><br />So, as in most political ploys, we now blame Big Brother, the Chinese etc for this current plight. The question here is - what does Hindraf really want? How to get from point A to B. Shouldn't Hindraf be helping reshape Indian thinking and be a social reform movement among their community and the larger audience? Yes, go to the polls but do it on one's own merit..<br /><br />Leave aside DAP but take a cue from PRM & PSM as a miniscule example of fighting back.<br /><br />PS. We will leave Helen for another day<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-69400172881911534932013-03-23T10:45:42.801+08:002013-03-23T10:45:42.801+08:00Helen has a more sympathetic or empathized approac...Helen has a more sympathetic or empathized approach, more in emotional concert with Hindraf thinking. But I took a step backwards to argue that (Hindraf approach) would be following a failed (uniquely Indian) approach which had abysmally failed in the last 50 years. Hindraf doesn't want to see the woods but prefer to grab a couple of tress here and there to plant in its own Tamil forest.<br /><br />Call it condescending if you like but yes, the truth hurts, always does. But it doesn't hide my sympathy for the marginalized Indians. I just want them to shrug off their feudalistic mindset and stop feet kissing and bullshit garlanding of so-called VIPs, and be confident of their own worth, and not to cringe at their so-called lower caste denomination. F* casteKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-69580041625324491352013-03-23T10:35:12.330+08:002013-03-23T10:35:12.330+08:00Yes Kalai
Despite my orgasmic letter, I did state...Yes Kalai<br /><br />Despite my orgasmic letter, I did state:<br /><br />"So much is at stake for BN but no more than that for Lim KS" meaning there's no certainty in Lim KS's victory<br /><br />Also, "Also, unlike many BN politicians who prefer to huddle in safe and comfortable blue ribbon seats for their own political interests, Lim KS is prepared to put his political career where his mouth is. He goes where his party wants him." - same cautionary advice.<br /><br />As they say, in a game the ball is round, and in politics we won't know who's the winner until the votes have been counted (provided the EC doesn't switch its role to and fro as referee as well as the 12th player for MCA) wakakaka.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-3350581456539284292013-03-23T10:17:39.992+08:002013-03-23T10:17:39.992+08:00Of course culture, the sociological aspect was not...Of course culture, the sociological aspect was not covered since you always do an excellent job. Even your brief analysis of religion - the concept of "karma", "maya" and "samsara" may have a bearing in pre-disposition of thinking.<br /><br />So we need to look at things objectively - what has MIC done for the community the last 50 years and what has MCA done. (So for Ellese, unlike your thinking, many people around are not shere droids following party lines). Hindraf is only asking for further handouts, thereby re-inforcing the state of mentality - ie. "we are beggars"<br /><br />The Chinese on the other hand are pragmatic. They have supported MCA & Gerakan for donkey years, ditch them for another lover when needed but can also response to the call of support and comaraderie (especially when Tun nearly had his ass whip). If the Chinese are gravitating towards DAP today, it isn't that the universe is turning red as some pro-BN bloggers try to paint. Its a case of MCA and their infighting coupled with the state of "seedless durian." The hubric call of asking the "pendatang" to leave may have also been a big political mis-step.<br /><br />All said and done, dear Hindraf... what about the Orang Asal, Kadazan-Dusuns & Ibans? Isn't it hubris to also consistently talk about Malaysia in terms of Malay, Chinese & Indians? Therefore, you may be right... a multi-cultural approach could work to uplift every community.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-81001667068788179872013-03-23T10:03:22.740+08:002013-03-23T10:03:22.740+08:00kt, this is a poor writing, a condescending one. u...kt, this is a poor writing, a condescending one. u replace race and their mindset/culture (whatever u call it) at a diff set of date, era and place, it tell almost the same.<br /><br />wrt indian plight, i think helen has a more solid and sensible contention, that said, i must state that some hindraf supporters (or leaders?) r truly idiot.HuaYongnoreply@blogger.com