tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post8295569005231099460..comments2024-03-28T23:42:23.455+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Why SJKC is growingKTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-29368089578104610702016-08-30T09:45:14.554+08:002016-08-30T09:45:14.554+08:00surprise, surprise... even Ktemoc has gone off top...surprise, surprise... even Ktemoc has gone off topic, which is about BM/English proficiency. I am not here to debate about the 'might' of Chinese schools and yada yada...<br /><br />ok, fine, but let me remind you that the UEC is just ONE of the qualifications necessary for studying abroad. heard of TOEFL and IELTS ? SAT in the US ?<br /><br />in the end, dont you still need 'Engrangisch' ?<br /><br />having resided in Aussie-land, you should know better.anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-50944797306388351962016-08-30T09:40:22.721+08:002016-08-30T09:40:22.721+08:00of course, your stupidity is laughable !
"ak...of course, your stupidity is laughable !<br /><br />"aku berpendapat bahasa ko dari srk tidak semestinya lebih fasih daripada kami yg dari srjkc" amboi ! siapakah awak ye ? seorang professor ? tolong berikan bukti yg 'pendapat' awak tu betul. silakan !<br /><br />"srk chinese grasp of bahasa is better than srjkc chinese"... no proof ?<br />http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1270251<br /><br />please corroborate (READ) the other sources too ! dont anyhow tembak sebelum semak, as it shows your stupidity. plain simple English, I believe. shouldnt be too hard for you to understand.<br /><br />jadi ? 18% non chinese buktikan ape ye ? yg org Melayu sendiri boleh mencabar diri sendiri utk belajar Mandarin, tapi pelajar2 SKC masih tak boleh menguasai BM ?<br /><br />"spm is sama std, n we chinese never escape the stpm via metrikulasi, n we start slow but catch up in spm, stpm n uni, apa shame ada?" proving to everyone here that you never read ? aduhai... you have my sympathies. if indeed SKC students' BM level is not 'shameful' enough, why do we keep getting all these news and articles in the first place ? logik anda kat mana ye ?<br /><br />obviously there is alot of room for improvement in SKC regarding BM or English proficiency. dont just hide and pretend there is no problem, if you still have any face left.anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-27749136408930833262016-08-30T00:16:10.886+08:002016-08-30T00:16:10.886+08:00brader,
“you still want to…” - yes I still wan t...brader,<br /><br />“you still want to…” - yes I still wan to expose yr argument for the stupidity they represent wakaka<br /><br />“Malays themselves ?”, - sampai sekarang ko masih tak reti apa yg mencetus perbahasan antara kami? sila baca p-e-r-l-a-h-a-n—l-a-h-a-n, aku mengata daripada pengalaman diri, aku berpendapat bahasa ko dari srk tidak semestinya lebih fasih daripada kami yg dari srjkc, cina vs cina, ada paham? all the so called cut n paste evidence from u didn't prove srk chinese grasp of bahasa is better than srjkc chinese, <br /><br />if google can be a form of reply, I suggest u google kua kia soong + mother tongue education, or helan ang (ori version not the current one wakaka), their writes answer many questions u raised.<br /><br />i repeat again, msia mana ada institusi yg impartial? hamper semua adalah dedak eaters. the proven facts is in the article of this thread, 18% non chinese in srjkc, n less than 5% non malay in srk, kalau interpret dari konteks nisbah, srjkc is lebih inclusive n better quality, at least the parents think so, all yr cut n paste hanya untuk syok sendiri or outdated.<br /><br />wrt the bm std, yr logical sequence is very interesting, or shall I say unique? as long as spm is sama std, n we chinese never escape the stpm via metrikulasi, n we start slow but catch up in spm, stpm n uni, apa shame ada? y yr logic terbalik one ah? no wonder the more I read the more confuse i become.<br /><br />my stance is, I think eng is very important, i have no intention to debate u on this, my retort is merely to tell u china is catching up, chinese is now more common, facebook or whatever social network app, or window or office, the language used is not necessarily eng. i ask my son y he use baidu, i told him google is much precise, he ‘educate’ me that anything relate to hanzi, hanyu, chinese, china, baidu anytime perform better than google. the point i wanna say is, we have a choice, we appreciate choices, mt education is about the choice, n diversity.<br /><br />finally, “i think” no need evidence one la, ini common sense juga, no need see oso can guess how thick is yr skin.<br /><br />having write all this, i fully agree with u srjkc need to find ways to improve bahasa n eng. sk is the key, but this topic for another day.<br /><br />i/we stop here. take a good rest.<br /><br />HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-50003861598071843242016-08-29T11:40:51.513+08:002016-08-29T11:40:51.513+08:00doesn't bove imply good BM and good Engrangisc...doesn't bove imply good BM and good EngrangischKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-19060242930435987752016-08-29T11:36:12.925+08:002016-08-29T11:36:12.925+08:00From Star Online - http://www.thestar.com.my/news/...From Star Online - http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2015/11/15/certificate-recognised-around-the-world-but-not-in-malaysia/<br /><br />The UEC is a standardised examination conducted by leading Chinese education group Dong Zong (United School Committees Associations of Malaysia) in the country’s 60 Chinese secondary schools. In the 1960s, these schools were privatised after they chose to retain Mandarin as their medium of instruction.<br /><br />Largely funded by donations from the Chinese community, these 60 schools have been providing affordable education to students, charging them monthly fees ranging from RM60 to RM300.<br /><br />To ensure students can enter local public universities if they want to, many schools compel students to sit for both the national SPM examination and the UEC exam. Some even hold STPM classes. Among those known for academic excellence are Foon Yew High School, Chung Hwa High School and Kuan Cheng High School.<br /><br />Putrajaya has said it does not recognise the UEC as Chinese secondary schools do not follow the national education curriculum and students lack proficiency in Bahasa Malaysia. But many Chinese educationists see this denial as a political strategy to discourage Chinese education in Malaysia.<br /><br />With Sarawak’s endorsement of the UEC, the urge to get Federal recognition is ignited again, particularly after Sabah, Selangor, and Penang state governments have said they will follow suit.<br /><br />Adenan, who is leading Barisan Nasional in Sarawak to contest in the up-coming state election, went a step further when he directed the state-owned Yayasan Sarawak to provide education loans or scholarships to UEC holders.<br /><br />“I don’t care what the Federal Government does but I think it’s stupid. I’m prepared to stand up for it,” Adenan was quoted as saying. “Other countries would pinch them. What a waste. How could we deny these people opportunities (in Malaysia)?”<br /><br />He noted that Sarawak would lose talent to countries such as Singapore and Taiwan, which recognise the UEC.<br /><br />Taiwan has an official policy of allocating a certain quota for Chinese students from Malaysia, and Singapore has been aggressively recruiting top UEC holders into its public universities, including the world-class National University of Singapore. Officials from Singapore visit the large Chinese secondary schools here after the UEC results are out to offer scholarships to outstanding students and place them under a bond.<br /><br />National Taiwan University, a leading state-owned institution of Taiwan, has accepted 26 Malaysians this year, says its local alumni association.<br /><br />Indeed, foreign recognition goes beyond Taiwan and Singapore. The other countries with universities that endorse this qualification include <i><b>Australia, Britain, Canada, China, France, Hong Kong, Ireland, New Zealand and the United States</b></i>.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-12270433907570637262016-08-29T10:58:10.222+08:002016-08-29T10:58:10.222+08:00correction : if they can, why cant you ?
anyway p...correction : if they can, why cant you ?<br /><br />anyway please face the facts and reality la. since you claim SKC students are good, fine, but have they got the proficiency to speak anything else than Mandarin ? BM tak boleh, 'Engrand' tak boleh... if you claim otherwise, tell me whats your 'reality' ! or is your 'reality' a different world altogether ?<br /><br />all I am asking is for Chinese-ed folks to buck up on these other languages. is there any harm ? if other diaspora Chinese can do that, if your DAP leaders can do that, why cant you ? full stop.anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59548271480613828332016-08-29T09:29:12.198+08:002016-08-29T09:29:12.198+08:00eh HY, 你的朋友说算了吧 ! you still want to show your igno...eh HY, 你的朋友说算了吧 ! you still want to show your ignorance ?<br /><br />about those NS trainees who cant speak BM, who else wouldnt be able to speak BM ? Malays themselves ? does it even matter that the speaker is biased against a particular race ? if we are talking about language proficiency, he has got it, no doubt. what have you got ?<br /><br />also the news was released earlier in 2010 and verified by the MOE. bak kata pepatah, kalau tiada api, mana asapnye ?<br /><br />"baidu, renren, weibo, qq, wechat, taobao, alibaba?" with the possible exception of alibaba, which of these brands have a more global reach when compared to Facebook, Instagram, Whasapp or even Google ?<br /><br />"i am aware, but that is to “publish”" but to publish, one has to have a good command of 'Engrand', no ? Japanese professors are moving to that trend : more publications in 'Engrand'.<br /><br />ok, fine. the difference is in SKC and SK, so why the distinction ? learning should be best done at an earlier age, yes, but by giving SKC students an easier paper ?<br /><br />wrt LKS and LGE, surely they are way better than Leow Tiong Lai or Wee Ka Siong ? at least they can converse and win supporters in multiple languages ? how did these two Lims and LKY hold off their umno opponents ? if these 'Chinese' can do that, why cant you ? that is my point.<br /><br />"i dun know, again pls show me the evidence". you want evidence ? "If we were monolingual in our mother tongues, we would not make a living" said LKY. have you ever been to SG and notice how few racial incidents there are ? or the fact that it is a world port ? come on, dont be shy. learn to use Google if you havent already !<br /><br />as for Korea, Taiwan, etc., why are they attracting foreign students then if they are so adamant about their national languages ? how about masters degrees in Korea taught in English ?<br /><br />"khoo kay kim mengulas bahawa srjkc menghasilkan “copycat” seolah-olah srk mewujudkan ramai pencipta dan ahli sains" ? helo, back to the discussion please, which is about language proficiency ! or did SKC teach you to read out of the context ?<br /><br />does UM consist of one PROF. Khoo Kay Kim alone ? is his name mentioned in the study ? since you want to talk about M'sia's case and not SG, apa lagi awak nak ?<br /><br />oh, ini alasan awak ? "mengambil intelek yang cenderung kepada dap?" mestikah universiti2 mengambil intelek dari mana2 parti politik ? universiti sepatutnya adalah tempat yg neutral/impartial, no ? adakah kajian2 ni menyentuh pasal politik ?<br /><br />have you read the Centre of Public Policy Studies document yet ? how many djz members were involved ? dont anyhow tembak sebelum semak, mate.<br /><br />also, are you saying those who support DAP MUST speak Mandarin only ? poor Dyana Sofia and Zairil Khir Johari...<br /><br />"former 2 r obviously force assimilation". yes indeed. but hadnt Zhou Enlai said this ? China "was willing to urge the Overseas Chinese to respect the laws of the local government and local social customs". and have the Chinese there adapted ? that is the question. if they cant, why cant you ? simple as that !<br /><br />so, is the M'sian constitution, no matter how flawed, the excuse for you to think along racial lines too ?<br /><br />"i think u never blush, yr face is as thick as mo1" wow, any evidence ? you wanna come here and prick my skin so as to see how thick skinned I am ? wakakaka...anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-70815712916933328242016-08-28T23:28:56.080+08:002016-08-28T23:28:56.080+08:00peter/ck, 就是要挫挫小子的优越感,况且华教事业也不能让人随意诬赖。虽然俺对董总也有诸多不满...peter/ck, 就是要挫挫小子的优越感,况且华教事业也不能让人随意诬赖。虽然俺对董总也有诸多不满,那是另一回事。HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-3764979187466543382016-08-28T23:06:26.920+08:002016-08-28T23:06:26.920+08:00lets start, shall we?
“http://www.thesundaily.my/...lets start, shall we?<br /><br />“http://www.thesundaily.my/news/774348” - thanks for the link, this is how normally one substantiate his claim, by providing ‘fact’ or reports or whatever. having said that, did u read the article u cited? n to find out the background of the speaker or commenter? let me enlighten u a bit 1)the article didn’t mention that all trainees r from srjkc 2) the article oso never tell us how the assessment is done when this prof teo claimed the trainees could only speak a smattering of bm, any written n oral test being held? if that is only his opinion, i oso can say most trainee speak acceptable level of bm. 3) moreover to cite the view of this prof teo is no diff like seeking ridhuan tee view on whether we chinese r grateful people or not. i hope u wont blame sk school for yr lack of sophistication to analyse news reporting ok? <br /><br />“where did Apple come from ? Microsoft ? Facebook ? Instagram ?” – have u heard of baidu, renren, weibo, qq, wechat, taobao, alibaba?<br /><br />“how many reference books out there are in 'Engrand' and Mandarin ?” – i dun know, y not u tell me?, i suppose eng is much more than chinese at this point of time, but hard to predict in the next 20 years.<br /><br />“are you aware of the normal practice among Japanese professors to publish their thesis in English for international readers ?” – i am aware, but that is to “publish”, japanese chinese korean still write their thesis using their own language, their thought process is definitely not eng.<br /><br />“SPM BM papers are of the same 'standard' as in SMK ? why the distinction ? you havent answered me because you are too ashamed” – i still dun understand what u talking abt. as far as i know, the std is diff between srk n srjkc, however there is no diff on secondary level among all school. the only diff is cis uec, their bm is easier than spm, they r given the choice to take spm, or not to.<br /><br />“have you not listen to these leaders speak in different languages” - lks eng n hokkian r good, bahasa n mandarin r poor. lge eng is okay, bahasa is quite okay, mandarin is poor, both father n son mandarin r at primary level. u must learn how to elaborate more, and clearly, wrt what u wrote.<br /><br />“LKY, its undeniable his pragmatic decision to choose 'Engrand' over Mandarin has helped SG !” – i dun know, again pls show me the evidence. hk taiwan korea n japan never choose eng, philippine n some other commonwealth countries pick eng, result varying.<br /><br />“UNIVERSITI MALAYA, yg paling terkemuka … Khoo Kay Kim” – kamu rasa um bolih bertanding dengan mana mana satu uni di singapore? khoo kay kim mengulas bahawa srjkc menghasilkan “copycat” seolah-olah srk mewujudkan ramai pencipta dan ahli sains, dapatkah anda menyenaraikan nama nama pencipta dan ahli sains yang terkemuka dari srk, mahupun di malaysia? tidak kah kamu meragui kualiti uni dimana prof nya berhurai tak guna otak?<br /><br />“UKM dan USM alatan umno ? Centre of Public Policy Studies adalah bias ?” – sila beritahu mana satu institusi yang kamu sebut ini mengambil intelek yang cenderung kepada dap? kamu rasa pengaji instituti yg dibiayai kerajaan umno berani menbuat kesimpulan yang bertentangan dengan dasar umno?<br /><br />“tapi enggan gunakan BM !” – tuduhan yang tanpa bukti dan asas. terlalu bodoh bagi i jawab<br /><br />“one of the strengths of the Chinese in SEA is adaptability. look at Thailand, Indonesia and Singapore” – the former 2 r obviously force assimilation, n no restriction on religion, while our constitution state clearly who is a malay. u expect a constitution n policy that divide the citizen base on race could lead the people into similar feature, culture n belief system? without the identity of chinese, indian n dll, where will be the “malay” and their rights n privilege? i am now getting very curious, how old r u? <br /><br />“umno funded your schools too little” – this is a fact, we pay tax, do u?<br /><br />“PLEASE BRUSH UP ON YOUR 'ENGRAND' / BM ! podah !” – i think u never blush, yr face is as thick as mo1.HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-198914625384302822016-08-28T21:09:21.871+08:002016-08-28T21:09:21.871+08:00commie ? what is communism ? pray tell me you have...commie ? what is communism ? pray tell me you have found your dictionary.<br /><br />arent those in rural areas better in BM ? mostly Malays would stay at rural areas, no ? have you seen Kelantan Chinese who can speak Kelantan BM as well as their Malay brethren ?<br /><br />funny ? facts are facts. and the fact is Chinese-ed folks are weaker in BM or English. Google or no Google, the fact is there.<br /><br />sure, preach about the history of SMJK all you want. aint gonna debate on that. the fact is, SKCs still use lower standard of BM papers. as for independent schools under dz, no need to say more lah. in the end, who loses out in BM/English proficiency ?anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-41336870853433860392016-08-28T19:32:49.352+08:002016-08-28T19:32:49.352+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-24839791503185181962016-08-28T15:59:34.384+08:002016-08-28T15:59:34.384+08:00This comment has been removed by the author.anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-61040984521441524402016-08-28T14:12:32.689+08:002016-08-28T14:12:32.689+08:00yes u sound like a commie, most commie have the in...yes u sound like a commie, most commie have the inclination to dictate what language I use n speak in order to be a citizen, for instance, read shit from red communist like jamal ikan n ali tinju.<br /><br />when most subject r taught in language other than chinese, the chinese school character will change, see what happen to sekolah menengah jenis kebangsaan, or as usual u r ignorant of this part of history?<br /><br />there r many reason y non malay cant speak fluent malay, for example some indian from the estate, and some chinese from the rural, it is easy to said challenge when the environment and reality doesn't require fluent bm to survive. u see many expatriate could speak thai chinese japan korean n b.indon when they stay in those countries but rarely we meet one in msia that could speak bm except terima kasih, apa khabar n msia bolih. the environment have major impact, it seem most msian can speak some eng, albeit manglish.<br /><br />u can read whatever way, not of my concern, it is a bit funny (a less harsh word) to ask me to google myself on something u claim to be truth n fact. <br /><br />the rest i reply u when i ada masa lapang, I dun sit 7/24 in front of my pc. but if u r that free, check my spelling n grammar, thats a good hobby, sesuatu tugas yang berfaedah di masa lapang.HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-13435671067785867962016-08-28T11:55:05.792+08:002016-08-28T11:55:05.792+08:00秀才遇着兵,有理说不清,
此兵不是普通兵,
不过是名无理取闹的小子,
算了吧!
秀才遇着兵,有理说不清,<br />此兵不是普通兵,<br />不过是名无理取闹的小子,<br />算了吧!<br />Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05897849745222330597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-3657466347737533122016-08-28T11:52:35.414+08:002016-08-28T11:52:35.414+08:00I sound like a commie ?? oh wow ! what a loop !
I...I sound like a commie ?? oh wow ! what a loop !<br /><br />I never said "turn our chinese school into a anglo school", did I ? read out of the context again ? is this what SKC preaches ?<br /><br />yes, this may not be S'pore, but surely there is more you can do other than 'compraining' ? like I said, "if you cannot speak better than them, then at least take more effort to equal them". stand up to the challenge ! the reality is BM is the national language, and sadly, how many times we hear Chinese-ed folks not being able to speak in decent BM ?<br /><br />oh so what if I read literally ? that was the sentence you wrote ! dont tell me if its 'literal' or 'implicit' or whatever, because only products of SKC can pusing sana sini. I prefer looking at facts and reality as it is. full stop.anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-75136764757722264132016-08-28T11:43:41.004+08:002016-08-28T11:43:41.004+08:00welcome back, CK 2-in-1 doppelganger coffee premix...welcome back, CK 2-in-1 doppelganger coffee premix !<br /><br />let me call a spade a spade too, rotten banana ! yes, why rotten banana ? because this Cina-chauvinist here is yellow on the outside, but trying too hard to sound 'Engrand' inside ! the ROTTEN BANANA comes with better 'lotten Engrand' too ! so hello, ROTTEN BANANA, a product of SKC !! ha-ha-effing-ha !<br /><br />oh yes, mirror is in short supply in M'sia, says the CK Daily ! wakakakaka... the ROTTEN BANANA comes with an immense power of imagination as well ! a product of SKC indeed ! wakakakaka...<br /><br />yes, my dear chauvinist, I AM questioning the language proficiency of Chinese school students, especially in non-mother tongue languages like BM and 'Engrand'. is your 'Engrand complehension' so bad you need to ask me twice ? tsk tsk... there you go, WWW ! here is your answer, given by none other than this product of SKC ! ha-ha-ha-ha !<br /><br />sure, "Look no further than the good old M’sia lah" ! perhaps if the successes include being treated like 'pendatang' and being called 'worse than Banglas'... amboi ! how 'admirable' ! ha-ha-ha-ha !<br /><br />awak tak berani berbahas dlm BM ? cakaplah awal2 ! sai hei only ! takkanlah awak tak reti maksud 'neutral ground' ! bukankah BM bukan bahasa ibunda "yellow-coated pommie" dan "rotten banana" ? mai lah debat dgn adil ! biar Ktemoc lihat sape yg paling meyakinkan !<br /><br />I never admit what ? to having your level of stupidity ? are you saying LKY was a commie blood spiller too ? be grateful that chauvinists like you were not executed, for if LKY was as stupid as you, SG would not prosper as it is now ! this you cannot deny. period.<br /><br />yes, yes, just like your doppelganger, you seem to not "know google that well" too ! "both Nietszche & Hitler have got it wrong for übermensch" ? please ask Google. you ah pek dont need me to teach you how to use Google, right ? produk SKC konon !<br /><br />"have u take a look at yr own kindred?" what kindred ? SKC mentality of thinking along racial lines ? comparing which Olympian and who's who studied in which Cina school ? and you call yourself a Malaysian ? this is a product of SKC ! ha-ha-ha !<br /><br />I dont need to double my work for this dungu here, as I have already answered your equally bodoh doppelganger.<br /><br />lagipun, 'karangan' awak ni seolah-olah spt suara org yg telah menyerah kalah ! banyak 'personal attack' dan 'retorik' yg dikitar semula pulak tu ! aduhai... inilah produk SKC ! wakakakaka...<br /><br />PLEASE BRUSH UP ON YOUR 'ENGRAND' / BM ! podah ! ha-ha-ha !anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65998996391891860432016-08-28T11:37:23.630+08:002016-08-28T11:37:23.630+08:00kid, dun know google mean thats not my problem, ad...kid, dun know google mean thats not my problem, ada paham? u read every sentence litreally ka? no wonder.<br /><br />i know where u r coming from, in fact i agree with many of yr observation. however u must take note that anything touched by umno/bn will turn into shit, look at our once reputable university n eng school. chinese school is our last bastion to allow our kids to have some decent education, its not perfect n need much improvements. we expect people like u could support n propose how we could work on it. dun sound like the red communist n try to turn our chinese school into a anglo school, u must recognised the fact that we r not spore.HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-21317964550407656332016-08-28T11:19:07.378+08:002016-08-28T11:19:07.378+08:00(part 2)
awak suka mengemis utk fakta kan, bodoh ?...(part 2)<br />awak suka mengemis utk fakta kan, bodoh ? contoh yg aku berikan adalah dari UNIVERSITI MALAYA, yg paling terkemuka di negara awak ! dan ini bukannye satu-satu kajian yg memperoleh hasil yg sama.<br /><br />takut sama PROF. Khoo Kay Kim yg 'khianati' SKC ? ha-ha-ha... alasan, alasan...<br /><br />"The multiethnic culture is suitable to increase the social interaction pattern among ethnics (Najemaah Mohd Yussof, 2006). In the meantime, SJKC and SJKT schools are more to the monoethnic pattern dominated by the Chinese and the Indians according to respective schools." - USM<br /><br />"More than 30% of the students from vernacular schools fail to obtain a minimum level of proficiency in Bahasa Malaysia after six years of primary education" - Centre of Public Policy Studies, KL<br /><br />"A total of 78.5% of the Chinese education system students considered Mandarin to be more important than BM, while 95% believed that the constant usage of Mandarin guaranteed its survival and its importance would not diminish, and 99% of them preferred to use Mandarin more than BM for various purposes. In contrast, where BM is concerned, 13% chose to communicate in BM... Moreover, 65% showed a less than desired attitude towards the national language, where 24% confessed having relatively low proficiency in BM" - UKM<br /><br />apa kata awak ye ? UKM dan USM alatan umno ? Centre of Public Policy Studies adalah bias ?<br /><br />tak ade 'kemaluan' ke ? org spt awak panggil diri sendiri rakyat M'sia, tapi enggan gunakan BM !<br /><br />tapi kalau ikutkan, rasanye tak perlulah aku suapkan fakta2 dlm buntut awak yg bodoh tu. "dun know google that well" ? aduhai... ketinggalan zaman lah, apek ni... blogspot.com di bawah syarikat sape ya ?<br /><br />one of the strengths of the Chinese in SEA is adaptability. look at Thailand, Indonesia and Singapore, and compare them with yourselves ! call yourselves great and almighty and M'sian, but unable to speak a decent sentence in BM like Ah Niu ? inilah produk SKC, kan ? ha-ha-effing ha !<br /><br />if you cannot speak better than them, then at least take more effort to equal them ! all you do is to 'comprain' 'comprain' 'comprain' : oh, umno funded your schools too little, oh umno forced you to study Maths and Sci in 'Engrand'... was this what SKC taught you ? shame on you ! produk SKC indeed !<br /><br />PLEASE BRUSH UP ON YOUR 'ENGRAND' / BM ! podah !anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-18325966583245038822016-08-28T11:04:12.102+08:002016-08-28T11:04:12.102+08:00wakakaka... 2-in-1 coffee premix ? groupie ? gangb...wakakaka... 2-in-1 coffee premix ? groupie ? gangbang ?<br /><br />lets start with HY.<br /><br />"co-existence of various languages including our mother tongue". explain to me why Chinese-ed folks like this Cina-chauvinist here cannot speak decent BM ! <br /><br />inilah produk SKC ! ha-ha-ha !<br />http://www.thesundaily.my/news/774348<br /><br />"non eng speaking countries like china japan n korea have more patent registered" oh yes, where did Apple come from ? Microsoft ? Facebook ? Instagram ? how many reference books out there are in 'Engrand' and Mandarin ? are you aware of the normal practice among Japanese professors to publish their thesis in English for international readers ? or are you just another katak di bawah tempurung ? inilah produk SKC ! ha-ha-effing-ha !<br /><br />you, the Cina ubermensch, think your BM is that great ? SPM BM papers are of the same 'standard' as in SMK ? why the distinction ? you havent answered me because you are too ashamed, dungu ? inilah produk SKC ! wakakaka...<br /><br />"lks n lge fight for what? r we not debate language n school?" yes, I AM debating your command of non mother tongue languages, specifically BM and 'Engrand' ! have you not listen to these leaders speak in different languages, or are you just another Cina-pek bodoh di bawah tempurung ? did SKC teach you to read out of the context ? inilah produk SKC ! ha-ha-effing-ha !<br /><br />oh, and speaking about LKY, its undeniable his pragmatic decision to choose 'Engrand' over Mandarin has helped SG ! or are you saying he as the PM cannot act as his executive office allowed ? are you saying your PM is any better ? look at your mirror lah, bodoh, before some 'yellow-coated pommie' stole all the mirrors ! wakakaka...<br /><br />(to be continued)anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-41064186111357466102016-08-28T10:34:16.723+08:002016-08-28T10:34:16.723+08:00Ktemoc,
my only intention is to tear these Cina-c...Ktemoc,<br /><br />my only intention is to tear these Cina-chauvinists a new asshole and stuff reality into them. for crying out loud, these outdated retards "dun know google that well", when its Google that owns blogspot.com !<br /><br />at an age when Shila can sing in Mandarin and Lee Hsien Loong can speak in Malay, these Cina ah peks calling themselves Malaysians cant even speak decent BM ! they love to think along racial lines ? then how about this, the Malays are now stepping up to the challenge and they dont ?<br /><br />so much for calling themselves Malaysian, when they keep harping on in Mandarin in their daily life !anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-14322549546636326122016-08-28T07:32:39.965+08:002016-08-28T07:32:39.965+08:00friends, chill a wee bit lah, OK? Let' return ...friends, chill a wee bit lah, OK? Let' return to civil courteous conversation, wakakakaKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-10602892279031044022016-08-28T03:48:37.299+08:002016-08-28T03:48:37.299+08:00HY, thanks & u don’t have to take those illogi...HY, thanks & u don’t have to take those illogical rants. Just for the fun, HY, this write-up reminds me of the story of 佛印与苏东坡的论佛之道. Of course, this is not saying this wannabe can be equal in anyway to 苏东坡!<br /><br />I hereby declare HY is not CK. <br /><br />Aunty fat-ass aka grammar n spelling checker aka engrish teacher (u know her???) & a yellowe coated pommie is just looking for a fight to vent her/his penned up frustration!<br /><br />1st, no apology for my usage of Manglish. It’s ONLY a response in jerk to a shameless yellowed coated pommie. Pariah, doesn’t she/he know even Tolkien’s works had to be corrected for spelling/grammer errors before it went into press.<br /><br />Hypocrisy? Get real with what’s getting personal & calling a spade spade lah, if yr England is so masterly. One is accused while the other is as real as proven here! <br /><br />Oohh… a yellowed coated pommie MUST be identified by face, talk about England again! Aint their written words enough as proof? Mirror is indeed in short supply!<br /><br />DON’T go into the question of "who raised that question about the type of school solely determine your achievements (yr words), do reflect on yr continuous rants about Chinese-ed M’sian.” U might want to denial, but yr written words were there for the WWW to judge. Furthermore, aint u the one that question the language proficiency of the Chinese-ed> & how’s that going with yr current rant of ‘if you really feel you are a citizen, does it even matter what school that fella is from ? again, does the type of school solely determine your achievements ?’ Twisting words OR eating words?<br /><br />Talk about mixing around in university campuses, tsk…tsk.. obviously u don’t know anything about the mini kampong setups of those u know who! What u had mentioned is the NORM, so what’s yr point? M’sianised export?<br /><br />About forced assimilation, let WWW judge yr claims about the Chinese Thai & Chinese Indonesian. 望文生義,曲解了現代人的意思 u dat man! BTW, what’s the difference between Thai Chinese & Chinese Thai! <br /><br />‘if the Chinese in Thailand and Indon didnt adapt to the local customs and tongues, would they be this successful ?’ Look no further than the good old M’sia lah. Ooop…No?<br /><br />So, u speak English every where u go errh! If this izznt show off, then WHY talk foreign among yr schooling peers? Such a mind – maybe deep down u WISH to be born quilow too, tsk..tsk.<br /><br />What copy-cat? Unlike u, I like my Chinese M’sian status through & through. Apa logic ke u nak debat saya dalam Bahasa kerana I panggil u "yellow-coated pommie" dulu? U buat challenge, I counter-offer, apa salah tu? Kalau, tak bolih cakap Bahasa Cina, say so lah. Memang buang muka pada yr claim of supporting multilingualism, betul tak?<br /><br />‘oh, and speaking of Harry Lee's opposition against the Chinese commies, I never denied this.’ U NEVER said so, admit it. To quote Harry as a pragmatist, shows how shallow u read into his words. But then, just as well with the words of Nietzsche! Googling for quote ONLY gives u a minute of fame, but it stupefies u forever!<br /><br />BTW, whatsoever, u mentioned with that Universiti Malaya study, have u take a look at yr own kindred? Macam I mention dengan kindred loyalty ke, so act blind?<br /><br />‘why are we waiting ?’ Oooohh… confirm that u r a groupie! BTW, that's an official Ozzie slang, just like crownish cur a Sinn Fein term for pommie!<br /><br />Unlike u people, there r people who need to prioritize their responsibilities. Arguing with a bunch of wet in the ear yellowed coated pommies lies VERY low in that rank. <br /><br />BTW, after all these written words, aint u a group of chauvinists, besides being a bunch of yellowed coated pommies, living off yr granddaddy wakakakakaka..sigh.<br />CKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423926161945889390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65484706826134726352016-08-27T23:05:30.857+08:002016-08-27T23:05:30.857+08:00dear aunty, here is my reply.
“your condescendin...dear aunty, here is my reply. <br /><br />“your condescending Cina-chauvinist attitude” – hmm did I ever correct yr chinese or bahasa? did i criticize srk, english or yr rights to learn english? my point is abt the co-existence of various languages including our mother tongue, n to level the playing field to prevent any other language from replacing our mother tongue, if u do have one.<br /><br />“when most scientific materials are in English” – it seem the non eng speaking countries like china japan n korea have more patent registered as compare to eng speaking countries like us n uk lately, but that is a topic for another day. pray tell where in my writes did i claim eng is not important? i said we believe mother tongue is the best medium for children at primary level, this imply the parent could choose what language is best for their kids at secondary n tertiary level, do u know chinese independent school under djz learn m&s in eng. it seem u r not only ignorant, o oso have problem to understand simple eng.<br /><br />“your SRK and SMKC BM standards are uber gut ! blab la bla” – lost in translation i guess, i have no idea what u talking abt. pls rephrase it in a comprehensible manner. <br /><br />“dont ask me for stats.” – i have to ask u since u r one that claim we are inferior as compare to yr type, the onus is on u to prove, this is common sense.<br /><br />“Sultan of Johor” – not sure what is yr point, even a kid know many cant grasp eng nowadays, what u propose sultan johor to do? start a eng school? i thought that is under the jurisdiction of education ministry n lawmakers ie umno? ko ada paham how the msia govt function n our politics reality kah?<br /><br />"leaders like Harry Lee, Lim Kit Siang and Lim Guan Eng have proven they can stand up and fight regardless of language” – lks n lge fight for what? r we not debate language n school? i am asking u if lks n lge agree with my stand, whats the point u bring them into this topic? r u bodoh or what?<br /><br />“any proof ?” – i said it clearly I am basing on my experience, it mean anecdote, i am not one that claim srjk this n that. <br /><br />“Pragmatism” – I debated ck many time in the past wrt lky n spore. I dun agree being pragmatic mean lky can have the freedom to act as he wish to, but i am perfectly fine if u dun know what i am talking abt.<br /><br />“please also debate against me in BM” – i am fine with yr suggestion. reply me next in bm n i will reply in kind.<br /><br />“ youe 'Engrish' is pathetic enough as it is.” - that's a fair comment, I can agree with u on this. If u have problem to understand my english, please ask.<br /><br />“so says this Universiti Malaya study !” – u mean the university where the pseudo historian khoo kay kim is teaching? y not u cite study from umno, better still one from jamal ikan bakar?<br /><br />“please ask Google” - i am asking u for factual evidence to support yr claim, if that is all u could present, perhaps we shd stick to topic that deserve carry on n skip this one, bec i dun know google that well. <br /><br />“PLEASE BRUSH UP” – yeah i blush whenever people point out my ignorance.HYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13569953968996951830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-39283797237496869282016-08-27T18:11:31.659+08:002016-08-27T18:11:31.659+08:00hello, you doppelgangers ! where are you ?
taking...hello, you doppelgangers ! where are you ?<br /><br />taking 1 whole day to reply again ? still looking for your dictionaries ? ha-ha-ha !<br /><br />why are we waiting ? why are we waiting ?...anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-789608944364423042016-08-27T10:30:09.024+08:002016-08-27T10:30:09.024+08:00before I forget, let me remind you, 'the Singa...before I forget, let me remind you, 'the Singaporean style' : PLEASE BRUSH UP ON YOUR ENGLISH !anti-fascist leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463015570268094403noreply@blogger.com