tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post7727125122531732027..comments2024-03-28T23:42:23.455+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Saiful Bukhari Azlan - Victim or Villain?KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-9780639954774606302010-02-03T03:49:14.876+08:002010-02-03T03:49:14.876+08:00is this a joke? the govt is making itself a laughi...is this a joke? the govt is making itself a laughing stock to everybody. it appears barbaric and tyrannical. <br />surely we are living in the 21st century and not in the stone age. even the stone age people were not bothered by nudity and covering for we are born without clothes. <br />so what is the buggeration? who is bothered by it? only a person with cerebral diarrhoea can come up with this unbelievable accusation again. and so continues the self-righteousness and hypocrisy of those who all of a sudden become pillars of morals and saintly except they forgot to put on a halo on their head. <br />to be sure, these so-religious people would have enjoyed the heights of sex, unless they are spurned by their wives leaving them unfulfilled and being unable to stand the sight of happy couples decide to create difficulties for them.<br />if buggeration is wrong, then sex to have babies is wrong too. it should be considered dirty and yet everyone has to come out via the channel where the urine passes; that is how human beings are made. <br />how do the so-called moral-bearing people tell the african tribe to stop buggering their wives due to condoms not available in their country and this is their means of population control? <br />does anyone realised many of these laws harrassing the people are not made by the gods? they are made by man to serve most of man's selfish purposes.<br />religions are meant to save the world, not to torture and harass the people. i would not believe in a god that makes the people suffer.<br />the duty of religious people is to show the world the goodness of their religions and not force them into it. where is the freedom to choose your religion? or maybe the religious people are confused themselves or maybe they think they would be out of job if they do not show the world they are doing something (which is usually something wrong most of the times). such misguided and misinformed people, the education gone to waste except for coffeeshop talk, an education that the parents labour to provide for their children in the hope education would liberate them from ignorance and achieve a higher level of enlightenment and a better life. time to wake up, people, we are not savages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-20494873108840009712008-07-13T09:52:00.000+08:002008-07-13T09:52:00.000+08:00We will never know the truth except the Almighty, ...We will never know the truth except the Almighty, but then, a person who happened to be in such a trauma shouldn't be as calm as this fella. His body language alone raises suspicion over this matter, and he even gave a mnysterious smile when he lodged the report the other day for millions of Malaysians to see. Then tell me again how on earth could anybody really believe that he's been sodomized?<BR/>-Yati-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-23173640022064091042008-07-05T16:04:00.000+08:002008-07-05T16:04:00.000+08:00Saiful how much do they pay you? Berapa juta?Saiful how much do they pay you? Berapa juta?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-7571229572394169562008-07-05T01:48:00.000+08:002008-07-05T01:48:00.000+08:00I did not understand why the reaction of Malaysian...I did not understand why the reaction of Malaysian sodomy victim is totally different from the profile studied by the National Center For Victim of Crime. He looks physically well, psychological calm and emotionally controlled.<BR/><BR/>http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361#3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-15075036038230042112008-07-04T10:10:00.000+08:002008-07-04T10:10:00.000+08:00hahaha to iamsaifulbukhariazlan - if u use that ni...hahaha to iamsaifulbukhariazlan - if u use that nick u shouldn't say such a thing about Saiful - you are passing judgement before knowing the facts. I'm not siding anyone but pls la, Malays especially, don't be so gullible - to either BN or PR. They are all politicians, fighting for themselves. At this moment thats how I view it all.And I remain a passive watcher. Doesn't hurt me a bit nor do i lose anything if I'm not involved or not supporting any of them. At least just one of the PR 'members' PAS, ('kampung' as it is), deserves some respect from me - that too only a small percentage of respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-41058836832365609702008-07-04T09:49:00.000+08:002008-07-04T09:49:00.000+08:00i don't think much of the ruling party nor the opp...i don't think much of the ruling party nor the opposition in Malaysia. I'm a Malaysian & a Malay. Reading these kind of news in the papers & watching them on TV is a waste of time n makes the mind sick. Stupid. Thats all I can say. And let me say this: All politicians are liars and actors - from the ruling party or the opposition. Sick, all of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-41543810002936998232008-07-03T15:48:00.000+08:002008-07-03T15:48:00.000+08:00from a girl point of view.so what if someone prefe...from a girl point of view.so what if someone prefer the same sex?of course it's a sin.but it's personal.as long as the guy can bring back his democratic idea,so what?why when a male VIP's tendency towards a female nobody,people keep quite and says it's a guy thing?and why people need to make a family disgraced this way???and the so-called-victim,people know you from the school time lah...you know how so many people hates you because of your bermuka-muka attitude?come on la...you are just 23 yrs old and you are saying that you are an AIDE cum Advisor to DSAI??you didnt even finish study......screw you.i still hate you from school time.you just never change do you....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-57827026474470632142008-07-03T02:09:00.000+08:002008-07-03T02:09:00.000+08:00i hope they dont bring mattress (yep..tilam) to th...i hope they dont bring mattress (yep..tilam) to the court this time.its totally hideous n illogicalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-75193816164694014622008-07-02T22:56:00.000+08:002008-07-02T22:56:00.000+08:00Well said, very balance, unlike the bias version f...Well said, very balance, unlike the bias version from PKR, PAS, DAP, or BN.<BR/><BR/>Your writing does not made you an UMNO person. Typical of PR's supporters mentality: Anyone who disagree with them or refuse to acknowledge the perfectness of their leaders is labelled as die hard UMNO fan.<BR/><BR/>I am more inclined to belief that the whole thing was cooked up by Anwar himself; mainly to gain support via sympathy and at the same time, frame BN. <BR/><BR/>His intention is also clear, to wreck country into havoc, agree with one of the commentors above, to turn Malaysia into ZimbabweAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-77503386212650406212008-07-02T17:43:00.000+08:002008-07-02T17:43:00.000+08:00My questions to Saiful's family on Anwar's sodomy ...My questions to Saiful's family on Anwar's sodomy allegations :<BR/> <BR/>http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Malaysia/Story/A1Story20080701-73922.html<BR/> <BR/>Fellow Citizens,<BR/> <BR/>The statement by the family of Mohd Saiful link above bear some earmarks of possible untruths and create more questions than it answers.<BR/>I am sure many of you may have similar questions youselves after reading the news report.<BR/> <BR/><BR/>This reminds me , many years ago when my older boy was 2 years old,<BR/>he tripped my CD tower and it came crashing down to the floor, when I got there, he planted his suffed toy near the carnage and said "teddy did it" with innocent eyes and expected me to believe it.<BR/>I see denials from the government of the day to sometimes have as much sophistication as "teddy bear" denials.<BR/>Now back to the statement by Saifuls family ( which to me sounds like a poorly written script ) :-<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>We are not getting any backing from the Government. We are on our own but as a family we fully support Saiful.<BR/> <BR/>While it is good to stick up for a family member,why presume when there is yet any accusations, very few<BR/>genuine victims talk about motive,collusion or bribes- most just scream for justice.<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>“We had asked for the Government’s help but they have chosen to back off and not dirty their hands,” he said when met at his house here yesterday<BR/> <BR/>Who in the government did you go to ? Please elaborate how they chose to back off ?<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>The uncle added that they had repeatedly called the Inspector-General of Police but were told to stop calling his number.<BR/> <BR/>So in other words you expect us to believe thatafter being turned away by Government officials you believed that the IGP<BR/>who is widely seen as doing the bisdiing of the political masters would help you.<BR/>You could have gone to Suhakam, Bar Council, Amnesty International or other independent bodies to help you.<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>He said his nephew had initially approached the Bukit Aman police station to lodge his report against Anwar but they turned him away upon learning who he was accusing.<BR/> <BR/>Again names please, time you went there and what transpired, you expect us to believe that they are more afraid of Anwar now then when he was the DPM.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Quote~<BR/>Mohd Saiful eventually found a police station in Kuala Lumpur which was willing to accept his report, his uncle added.<BR/> <BR/>Please name us the station and the brave officer who took the report that the Government officials , IGP and Bukit Aman dared not touch,<BR/>he or she deserves a medal.<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>“Saiful is no longer in the hospital but is under police protection and even our family does not know his whereabouts,” he said.<BR/> <BR/>Forgive my sarcasm, but do you expect us to believe that despite the governments and top police officials refusal to get involved,<BR/>they are now providing Saiful protection, when Anwar is holed up in the Turkish Embassy asking for a guarantee to his safety,<BR/>and when the DPM was pressed as to providing police protection for Anwar, the best he could commoit is "I leave it to the police to decide".<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>The uncle said the family would eventually hold a press conference to allow Saiful to “explain from A to Z” his accusations against Anwar.<BR/> <BR/>Trial by media, when a defamation suit has already been filed by Anwar against your nephew- a very daring feat indeed for one <BR/>who claims to have no backing, we all know what sodomy is -no need to explain, we are more interested in the evidence you have,<BR/>I would advise against it as the police have yet to establish a prima-facie case.<BR/><BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>“Our family is a small family and we do not benefit in any way from Saiful’s revelation<BR/> <BR/>I fail to see any correlation between the size of your family and deriving benefits from this episode,<BR/>your reasons are incoherent akin to someone under threat, why go on repeating the "not gaining anything" mantra<BR/>when the issue should be justice.<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>“We are not getting any money and in fact our family is being cut off by other people.<BR/> <BR/>For cying out loud, enough already, if you dont benefit, are you doing it under duress ?<BR/>If so who is threatening you ?<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>“Saiful is sacrificing himself for the country even though he knows that society will scorn him and the family for his accusation,” the uncle said<BR/> <BR/>Oh really , then name the government officials who resused to help, the police station that refused to take the report, and let action be taken against them,<BR/>you will truly help the country this way.Why use the word "sacrifice" if you were truly wronged you should ask for justice.<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>He said Mohd Saiful had also contemplated suicide as he felt that he had committed a sin.<BR/> <BR/>So is this an admission to bisexuality, that it was consensual ? Does your nephew understand that<BR/>if it was consensual, he is admitting to an offence under the penal code, in that case do you not wonder<BR/>why he isnt being charged with "carnal intercourse against the order of nature" ?<BR/>You expect us to believe that after his admission he is being given protection and not being charged,<BR/>to be standard procedure ? I am sure the religious authorities would be more than happy to provide him with<BR/>counselling since he has repented and after he serves jail term of course.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>The uncle said he had been a strong supporter of Anwar but was disillusioned now.<BR/> <BR/>Really ? Come to a conclusion so soon, before the evidence has been adduced, or<BR/>did you witness the act personally ?<BR/> <BR/> <BR/>Quote~<BR/>On why Mohd Saiful had pictures with of him posing with Cabinet Ministers and a Prime Minister’s Department aide, his uncle said it was normal for a student leader to take pictures with government officials.<BR/> <BR/>True, but the DPM quoted "He explained that the photograph was taken on Feb 12 this year after Anwar's aide had come there with a friend to meet his (Najib's) officer for assistance to secure a government scholarship for further education".<BR/>Now how is it that straight A students line up at PSD some in vain to get scholarships , when your nephew a UNITEN dropout can see the DPM's officer.<BR/>and you expect us to believe that he has no ties whatsoever with the government.<BR/> <BR/>Regards<BR/>Vijay Kumar Murugavell<BR/> <BR/>my other writings reside here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6778953884Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-13759262849882063012008-07-02T15:12:00.000+08:002008-07-02T15:12:00.000+08:00It is SO not AAB behind this, that part I agree, a...It is SO not AAB behind this, that part I agree, and I too think that he's not what ppl think or as labeled by certain quarters who have their interest in seeing him go down. They cannot find that he's corrupted, so evil, so they go for calling him slow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-22224401701159336332008-07-02T14:14:00.000+08:002008-07-02T14:14:00.000+08:00ISH3..AKU PON X PAHAM LA....BENDA X LOGIK NI...BAY...ISH3..AKU PON X PAHAM LA....BENDA X LOGIK NI...BAYANGKANLA...ANWAR TU DH TUA,JALAN PON X LARAT...NAK LIWAT SEORANG ANAK MUDA YG PADA PANDANGAN SAYA 5 KALI LEBIH TENAGA DARI ANWAR TANPA RELA....KALAU AKU LA JADI MAMAT TU..AKU SEPAK JE ANWAR TU KALAU NAK LIWAT AKU,MESTI TETONGGENG...<BR/><BR/>DAH TERANG2 BENDA NI HANYA REKAAN...KALAU MACAM NI PON RAKYAT STILL TERTIPU...AKU XTAU NAK CKP APA...SGTLAH BODOH PEMIMPIN BN KAT MALAYSIA NI...BUATLA CERITA LAIN PULAK..BIAR LOGIK CKET!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-33313203694024052722008-07-02T14:08:00.000+08:002008-07-02T14:08:00.000+08:00pelik..camana kena liwat..tak boleh melawan ke...m...pelik..camana kena liwat..tak boleh melawan ke...maksudnya saiful tu rela lah diliwat. bodoh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-66456584695908991972008-07-02T09:18:00.000+08:002008-07-02T09:18:00.000+08:00Sick Of the whole episode whether they are from BN...Sick Of the whole episode whether they are from BN or from PKR . I think there are more important economic issues to address with the whole world being effected by soaring crude oil prices , badly performing stock markets here and in the rest of the world . And here in Malaysia we are getting daily chaos political scenes unfolding . What I reckon is that what they are doing is affecting everybody here in Malaysia .<BR/><BR/>Evolution has to be done gradually as Malaysian politics evolve it should be at its own pace and not forcing an immediate change . This is like a revolution .Awakeninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578612991061778557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-49634036402010996682008-07-01T22:12:00.000+08:002008-07-01T22:12:00.000+08:00I am not supporter of Anwar but I do detest the cu...I am not supporter of Anwar but I do detest the current government more than anyone else. This is my first time reading your blog but I could feel the biasness of your article. Be honest with yourself, you know it. In regardless, I don't personally believe Anwar can be so stupid to commit this crime at a time which is very crucial for his political career. It just doesn't make sense. Again, this guy may not be instructed by BN but he may want to obtain the favour in doing so. You may say that I am critical of that ass hole, of course I am!! With a CGPA of 1.8++, you can get scholarship directly from the DPM office???? What does that say??? Either he is a crony or he is offering his ass to be sodomised by the DPM and his goons!! Student leader, my ass!! BN croynies were saying that Anwar is a drama king, I personally prefer a drama king more that all those arseholes who are milking Malaysia high and dry. Has Malaysia forgotten about the late Zakaria with his istana in Klang?? Is that the UMNO dream that the supporters are hoping to live in?? Ever since the political tsunami, I have been trying to be neutral, hoping the best for the country but it's not going there. Negara kita berada dalam keadaan yang genting sekarang. Setelah, pemergian Bapa Kemerdekaan, Bapa Pembangunan, Bapa Perpaduan and Bapa Pemodenan, kini kita hanya ada Bapa Mertua, yang lemah and akan membawa Malaysia ke lembah kemusnahan. Saya tidak percaya bahawa semua ahli UMNO, MCA and MIC adalah rakus dan tamak tapi jikalau ketua lemah, anak-anak buah akan bermaharajalela. Malaysia memerlukan seorang pemimpin yang berwibawa dan sudah terbukti si Bapa Mertua itu bukanlah pemimpin yang dimaksudkan. Anwar???? Mungkin...... Saya tak kisah biarpun BN ke, PKR ke yang membentuk kerajaan persekutuan, asalkan, pemimpin Negara kita berwibawa dan adil. Adakah, ini hanya harapan palsu semata-mata? Saudara adalah penyokong BN and I was....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-58237631478647633662008-07-01T21:04:00.000+08:002008-07-01T21:04:00.000+08:00Hello,Berdasarkan apa yang ditulis dan diperhatika...Hello,<BR/><BR/>Berdasarkan apa yang ditulis dan diperhatikan saya melihat perkara ini memang terdapat pelbagai perkara yang terlalu susah untuk diduga.<BR/><BR/>Tetapi..<BR/>Harus diingat. Secara logiknya tidakkah bodohnya Anwar Ibrahim sekiranya melakukan aksi sedemikian dan semestinya dia sedia maklum akan kesan dan impak daripada perbuatananya itu. Karier nya sebagai seorang pemimpin dan ahli politik secara automatiknya akan musnah. Dan adakah dia sanggup memusnahkan karier politiknya kerana tidak tahan akan nafsunya ? Padahal dia mampu berbuat demikian mungkin selepas dia sudah menjadi PM.<BR/><BR/>Saiful Bukhari sekiranya betul-betul tidak bersalah tampil kehadapan. Tapi sampai hari ini lagi tidak ada sebarang sidang media atau kenyataan yang menolak dakwaan tersebut. Adakah perlu dia menyusun dan memikirkan idea-idea untuk menentang kembali apa yang dia katakan ?<BR/><BR/>Secara logiknya, sekiranya seseorang itu tidak membuat salah secara automatiknya dia akan menentang sebarang tindakan yang menuduhnya kembali. Mungkin juga betul pendapat tentang ugutan terhadapnya.<BR/><BR/>Tapi sekiranya anda ingin mengatakan ugutan membunuh itu susah dipercayai saya melihat ini adalah tidak betul.<BR/><BR/>Sedang kan Altantuya pun di bunuh dan masih lagi dikaitkan pembunuhannya dengan pemimpin negara inikan pula Anwar Ibrahim yang dilihat oleh masyarakat sebagai pemimpin.<BR/><BR/>Kadang-kadang ada setengah perkara yang kita rasakan tidak mungkin berlaku. Namun begitu dengan situasi sekarang saya melihat perkara sedemikian adalah tidak mustahil.<BR/><BR/>Sekian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-76805527827320861242008-07-01T18:34:00.000+08:002008-07-01T18:34:00.000+08:00Kita tidak tahu apa sebenarnya yang berlaku. Kita ...Kita tidak tahu apa sebenarnya yang berlaku. Kita tidak boleh sama sekali membuat andaian dari apa yang kita lihat. Allah Maha Mengetahui. Dia sahaja yang tahu apa sebenarnya yang berlaku. Siapa yang benar dan siapa yang tidak benar? Kalau kita sama2 menghukum DSAI atas sesuatu yang tidak pasti kita sama2 mempunyai saham dalam memfitnah beliau. Tidakkah kita takut akan MATI?? Kita semua nanti akan ditanya.. Pikirkanlah paskal! Bagi aku sbg hamba Allah, biarlah Allah sahaja yang menentukan semuanya.. Allah akan membantu orang2 yang teraniaya.. Ingatlah, antara tanda2 kiamat semakin hampir, semakin byk berlakunya penipuan, fitnah dan org yang menyampaikan berita.. berita yang dibawa adalah berita yg tidak benar.. byk dah tanda2 akhir zaman ini berlaku di malaysia dan juga di seluruh dunia… marilah kita sama2 memikirkannya. Pasti kita mahukan syurga di kehidupan yang akan datang..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-9790549826633804342008-07-01T17:56:00.000+08:002008-07-01T17:56:00.000+08:00All allegations made by Anwar and Azizah and as re...All allegations made by Anwar and Azizah and as reported by cybermedia seems too many clashes and too many reasonable doubts to believe them. Anyway, dear Anwar..you are very creative when making speculations and conspiracy theories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-13542156828115709772008-07-01T17:32:00.000+08:002008-07-01T17:32:00.000+08:00SITUATION VACANT!Personal Aide needed for componen...SITUATION VACANT!<BR/><BR/>Personal Aide needed for component political party of the PKR.<BR/><BR/>Must be well groomed, charming and good looking. Nice butt is a plus.<BR/><BR/>IMMEDIATE INTERVIEW at the Turkish Embassy.<BR/><BR/>Person to contact: Uncle Anwar.<BR/><BR/>Men only, women need not apply.<BR/><BR/>Thank You very much..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-21045926052876494292008-07-01T16:29:00.000+08:002008-07-01T16:29:00.000+08:00Hi guys,I quoted this from renovation blogged by s...Hi guys,<BR/>I quoted this from renovation blogged by stephendoss concerning Anwar’s sodomy cases issued previously…check it out..<BR/>“FOR THE BENEFIT OF READERS, I HAVE EXTRACTED FROM THE PAST THE JUDGMENT BY THE FEDERAL COURT OF MALAYSIA, ANWAR’S APPEAL AGAINST HIS CONVICTION ON SODOMY. THE FOLLOWING IS A MAJORITY DECISION REACHED BY THE JUDGES SITTING IN THE FEDERAL COURT ON THE ANWAR IBRAHIM APPEAL AGAINST HIS CONVICTION ON SODOMY.<BR/>PLEASE NOTE AND READ CAREFULLY THE VERDICT, THAT ALTHOUGH THE JUDGES HAD NO DOUBT IN THEIR MINDS THAT THE ACT OF SODOMY BY ANWAR IBRAHIM HAD TAKEN PLACE, BUT TO RELY SOLELY ON AZIZAN’S EVIDENCE WOULD BE UNSAFE FOR THE PURPOSES OF UPHOLDING THE JUDGEMENT.<BR/>SO DID THE ACT OF SODOMY TAKE PLACE ? YES ACCORDING TO THE JUDGES. BUT DUE TO A TECHNICALITY THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DISMISS THE CASE.<BR/>DALAM MAHKAMAH PERSEKUTUAN MALAYSIA<BR/>(BIDANG KUASA RAYUAN)<BR/>RAYUAN JENAYAH NO: 05-6-2003 (W)<BR/>ANTARA<BR/>DATO’ SERI ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM … PERAYU<BR/>DAN<BR/>PENDAKWA RAYA … RESPONDEN<BR/>RAYUAN JENAYAH NO. 05-7-2003 (W)<BR/>SUKMA DARMAWAN SASMITAAT MADJA … PERAYU<BR/>DAN<BR/>PENDAKWA RAYA … RESPONDEN<BR/>CORAM:<BR/>ABDUL HAMID MOHAMAD F.C.J.<BR/>RAHMAH HUSSAIN F.C.J.<BR/>TENGKU BAHARUDIN SHAH TENGKU MAHMUD J.C.A.<BR/>MAJORITY JUDGMENT OF<BR/>ABDUL HAMID MOHAMAD F.C.J.<BR/>AND TENGKU BAHARUDIN SHAH TENGKU MAHMUD J.C.A.<BR/>In this judgment, Dato’ Seri Anwar bin Ibrahim will be referred to as “the first appellant” and Sukma Darmawan Sasmitaat Madja will be referred to as “the second appellant”.<BR/>The first appellant was charged with an offence punishable under section 377B of the Penal Code.<BR/>The second appellant was charged with two offences. The first charge is for abetting the first appellant in the commission of the offence with which the first appellant was charged. The second charge is similar to the charge against the first appellant i.e. under section 377B of the Penal Code.<BR/>Both the appellants were tried jointly. The first appellant was convicted and sentenced to nine years imprisonment commencing from the expiry of the sentence he was then serving in the first trial. High Court Kuala Lumpur Criminal Trial No. 45-48-1998 (1999)2 M.L.J. 1 (H.C), (2002)2 M.L.J. 486 (C.A.) and (2002) 3 M.L.J. 193 (F.C.)). The second appellant was convicted on both charges and sentenced to six years imprisonment and two strokes for each charge with the sentences of imprisonment to run concurrently. For the judgment of the High Court in the present case, see (2001) 3 M.L.J. 193.<BR/>They appealed to the Court of Appeal. Their appeals were dismissed – see (2004) 1 M.L.J. 177.<BR/>They appealed to this court and this is the majority judgment of this court.<BR/>Section 87(3) of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964 (“CJA 1964”) provides that a criminal appeal to this court “may lie on a question of fact or a question of law or on a question of mixed fact and law.” The position is the same as in the case of the Court of Appeal hearing an appeal from a trial in the High Court as in this case – see section 50(3) CJA 1964.<BR/>To summarise our judgment, even though reading the appeal record, we find evidence to confirm that the appellants were involved in homosexual activities and we are more inclined to believe that the alleged incident at Tivoli Villa did happen, sometime, this court, as a court of law, may only convict the appellants if the prosecution has successfully proved the alleged offences as stated in the charges, beyond reasonable doubt, on admissible evidence and in accordance with established principles of law. We may be convinced in our minds of the guilt or innocence of the appellants but our decision must only be based on the evidence adduced and nothing else.”Aiyzekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07557584740206549122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-4284425817949196202008-07-01T14:09:00.000+08:002008-07-01T14:09:00.000+08:00The writer....was referring to the Negeri Sembilan...The writer....was referring to the Negeri Sembilan case happened in the 80's....where the victim fcuked the murderer's sister...<BR/><BR/>So stop complaining that the writer didt get his fact right.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00813394063231109360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-87528046118545353912008-07-01T13:14:00.000+08:002008-07-01T13:14:00.000+08:00SEBAGAI ORANG MELAYU DAN RAKYAT MALAYSIA, TAK KIRA...SEBAGAI ORANG MELAYU DAN RAKYAT MALAYSIA, TAK KIRALAH SIAPA SAJA YANG BETUL DAN SALAH,.. KES SEBEGINI MEMANG MEMALUKAN DAN MEMUALKAN KAMI. <BR/><BR/>KALAU DSAI MEMANG BETUL BUAT BENDA TU,.. SAYA MALU, KALAU INI FITNAH DARIPADA ORANG LAIN TERHADAP SDAI PUN SAYA MALU.<BR/><BR/>DAN SAYA YAKIN, RAKYAT MALAYSIA YANG LAIN PUN RASA MALU DENGAN KEADAAN INI.<BR/><BR/>BAGI SAYA, SESIAPA SAHAJA YANG BERSALAH DALAM KES INI, <BR/><BR/>* ANDALAH SEBENARNYA PENJAHANAM NEGARA, <BR/><BR/>** ANDALAH SEBENARNYA PENJAHANAM AGAMA ISLAM, <BR/><BR/>*** ANDALAH SEBENARNYA PENJAHANAM BANGSA MELAYU.<BR/><BR/>DAN ANDA MEMANG JAHANAM.<BR/><BR/>SEMOGA ALLAH MEMBERI HIDAYAH DAN MEMBUKA PINTU TAUBAT UNTUK ANDA DAN SELAMATKAN NEGARA MALAYSIA DAN UMAT ISLAM SELURUHNYA. AMIN<BR/><BR/>drp mamatataspagarAdminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02105467247275340278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-13828626773439779362008-07-01T11:30:00.000+08:002008-07-01T11:30:00.000+08:00If someone wanted DSAI dead, he would have been a ...If someone wanted DSAI dead, he would have been a long time ago.crowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08862139156238200231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-19818862855487628182008-07-01T11:10:00.000+08:002008-07-01T11:10:00.000+08:00Perhaps its a blessing that the allegation come ou...Perhaps its a blessing that the allegation come out at the right timing. Its is better earlier than later to screen throughly DSIA before he become the PM.<BR/><BR/>CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-51160269549424229452008-07-01T09:56:00.000+08:002008-07-01T09:56:00.000+08:00agreed...we should see who'll benefit from all the...agreed...<BR/><BR/>we should see who'll benefit from all these, in the end.<BR/><BR/>just like when US gov claimed terrorism against them by muslims. in the end, Muslims got hated, and they got the oil..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com