tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post6648287955571789325..comments2024-03-29T09:31:48.754+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Will UMNO walk into PKR's trap?KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-72780429364044383922015-08-25T09:27:20.394+08:002015-08-25T09:27:20.394+08:001.on records, mahathir was the pm for 22 years (co...1.on records, mahathir was the pm for 22 years (continuous).<br />2. che det vs ku li for umno (lama)'s no. 1 - the condition was not tested and che det was still the legitimate pm.<br /><br />whatever la anhea, 'geographically', the wayang is still in progress, dah jadi macam drama taiwan, beribu2 episod la. cheers!kampong ladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105388122398462146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-80213429537627567192015-08-25T08:12:45.227+08:002015-08-25T08:12:45.227+08:00at a time when Mahathir and Ku Li were stoushing i...at a time when Mahathir and Ku Li were stoushing it out for the UMNO No 1 position, no one knows who commanded the confidence of the majority, and the court case on who was really UMNO took more than a few hours, so Ling was more than what you have been prepared to accord him. Aiyah, don't deny the poor man of being de facto PM lah, wakakakaKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59338416260648890512015-08-24T23:02:28.626+08:002015-08-24T23:02:28.626+08:00to be a prime minister, you don't have to be t...to be a prime minister, you don't have to be the president of umno baru or the chairman of bn. you only have to be a wakil rakyat & in agong's judgment, you are likely to command the confidence of the majority of the dewan. <br /><br />so, mahathir was still the pm then & yes, ling ls was the bn chairman but only for a few hours if not minutes.kampong ladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105388122398462146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-25724307753211156382015-08-24T16:56:05.764+08:002015-08-24T16:56:05.764+08:00thanks kakilang I'll try, though the pre-emine...thanks kakilang I'll try, though the pre-eminent blogger on Penang is undeniably Anil Netto and on the consumer side, SM Mohamed Idris of CAP. BUt I'll attempt to follow their meritorious pathKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-5974522900531610252015-08-24T16:42:20.104+08:002015-08-24T16:42:20.104+08:0052%..Thats psychological fuel that can be milked a...52%..Thats psychological fuel that can be milked as much as possible.Political instability also..imagine the campaign speeches that one can almost hear now as the next GE approaches..<br />.And fact is that UMNO is supplying so much material for the script now, it will be a tough time indeed to decide what to go with,Icing on the cake will be 1MDB and Najib..whether He resigns or manage to hang on is another theme in the making.bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06583239788315206681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-54873561782952008182015-08-24T16:40:34.388+08:002015-08-24T16:40:34.388+08:00I enjoyed reading your blog. its great that someon...I enjoyed reading your blog. its great that someone with deep understanding on Malaysian politics actually blogs about these things.<br />but shouldnt you post more on local issues (issues which affect Penang) ? no matter how accurate your predictions are, whatever happens in BN and other parties outside Penang are out of our control. but as Penangites, whatever happens to Penang impacts us directly.<br />Penang has been at the receiving end of numerous discriminations lately, such as Penang's exclusion from 11MP special cities list and the Merdeka theme issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65407079403414347232015-08-24T15:48:11.900+08:002015-08-24T15:48:11.900+08:00aha, demented looes slandering again - show me whe...aha, demented looes slandering again - show me where or how I had portrayed 2.6 billion donation. if you can't I need to potong your wee lil' dickie<br /><br />I think sometimes you must have been walloped kau kau when you were in school and told repeated lies, wakakakaKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-62296212213439154682015-08-24T14:38:55.970+08:002015-08-24T14:38:55.970+08:00Rather we would like to trigger fight among najib ...Rather we would like to trigger fight among najib and madhater so as to sink umno? <br /><br />equally bizarre would kaytee's portrayal of 2. 6billion donation. It seems like 2. 6 to him. One guy got killed over 2. 6k. Let alone 2. 6bAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-52556457151740181202015-08-24T14:33:41.173+08:002015-08-24T14:33:41.173+08:00Re your 2. 'The way to get rid of or depose o...Re your <i>2. 'The way to get rid of or depose of the person who is the PM should be done in the UMNO leadership council'<br />does that mean his bn chairmanship automatically kaput?</i><br /><br />you do have a point there because once a non-UMNO-president was chair of BN and thus de facto PM. He was MCA's Ling Liong Sik, wakakaka.<br /><br />So even if Najib kena kicked out of the UMNO presidency, the BN could still leave him there as a decorative coalition administrator - to save his face, and 'heal' wounds, wakakakaKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-41828278398748038622015-08-24T13:28:55.030+08:002015-08-24T13:28:55.030+08:001. pkr ada trap ka? dia orang yg selalu kena trap....1. pkr ada trap ka? dia orang yg selalu kena trap.<br /><br />2. 'The way to get rid of or depose of the person who is the PM should be done in the UMNO leadership council'<br />does that mean his bn chairmanship automatically kaput?<br /><br />3. do sarawak want to rock the boat? sampai sekarang umno baru tak boleh masuk.<br /><br />4. it's mahathir's personal war. he single-handedly appointed pak lah & then najib to the post. still trailing by 1-2. let him 'equalize' alone. sendiri bikin, sendiri tanggung.kampong ladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11105388122398462146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-53327268935018871762015-08-24T12:21:23.388+08:002015-08-24T12:21:23.388+08:00problem is that eventually the "means" b...problem is that eventually the "means" become the modus operandi, and the "end" will be conveniently forgottenKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-38303320043947880902015-08-24T12:20:24.638+08:002015-08-24T12:20:24.638+08:00the 'transition government' concept were m...the 'transition government' concept were mooted by former Bersih 2.0 Chairperson Ambiga Sreenevasan and PKR's Rafizi Ramli so I'm afraid this time we can't blame UMNO for sneaking in a 'reverse psychology' manouevreKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-60212294971580458562015-08-24T11:55:05.282+08:002015-08-24T11:55:05.282+08:00SADLY,THE OPPOSITION DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO IMPLEMEN...SADLY,THE OPPOSITION DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO IMPLEMENT A COUP DE ETAT ALA "THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS".[TEJTM]<br /><br />ANY POLITICAL SCIENCE STUDENTS WOULD KNOW HOW TO INITIATE "TEJTM".<br />ALL THEY NEED IS PURE GUTS.SADLY,THE OPPOSITION DOESNT HAVE THEM.<br /><br />THE OPPOSITION FAILED TO TAKE THE ADVANTAGE.<br />THEY ARE JUST TRIGGERING THIS N THAT.<br />QUITE SIMPLY,THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE?mapsscomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00428232097386351904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-27811563973152962692015-08-24T10:04:01.158+08:002015-08-24T10:04:01.158+08:00No, UMNO will not fall into any putative PKR trap....No, UMNO will not fall into any putative PKR trap. Like bruno said, it could be the other way round.<br /><br />The talk of BN-PR cooperating to form 'transition government' could be a part of the reverse psychology (along with the fabled Plan A,B,C,D,X, the Old Man, DAP-Jews) to rally the BN troops against a perceived threat. Though things like vote of no-confidence is perfectly legal and is common in the western countries, any such talk here is tantamount to mutiny and will not be palatable to the majority of the Malays. Same goes for such vote inside UMNO itself.<br /><br />Najib is secure in his fortress for now. He will just have to survive to 2018, and by then the situation will be different. New issues or problems will arise or be manufactured to occupy the masses attention, and 1MDB will be a footnote in history just like Perwaja, Makuwasa, MAS, BMF ....Al Berthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15251769866746245911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-44159568494052603602015-08-24T07:18:06.935+08:002015-08-24T07:18:06.935+08:00BN/UMNO is still the dominant party of the governm...BN/UMNO is still the dominant party of the government. The vote of no confidence is not going to happen. PAS/Hadi will not vote. Indeed, PM Najib has effectively locked himself in as the PM for at least until 2018. <br /><br />As I see it, PKR/Pakatan is now apoplectic. Perhaps, each passing day is spent planning on how to grab power and attempting a “coup”. I wonder, is it because of that 52% vote and that 1930 GE13 declaration that Pakatan had won? <br /><br />Well, granted, it is a democratic injustice. But that’s the way our present democracy is. Come on, please get real lah PKR! The 48% democratic deficit has still got the right to govern. Don’t boil your blood and the electorates’ blood because of it. Live with it man. Chill! Your despicable political antics are not going to work. PM Najib can still command a majority of the MPs. <br /><br />Hmmm… what? 25 nationalist sociopaths willing to form a ‘coalition of chaos’ with PKR/Pakatan? To most UMNO/BN members, especially the heartlands, this will be a confirmation that the aforesaid sociopaths want to destroy UMNO and a legit “Malay” government? They would give their blessings for PM Najib to offer/make a coalition with PAS or form a minority government. <br /><br />PM Najib has a constitutional and legitimate right to govern until what Kaytee wrote in the second last paragraph of this post has taken place. <br />hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05663082048545287345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-63381743101727612592015-08-23T19:56:26.879+08:002015-08-23T19:56:26.879+08:00Will Umno walk into PKR's trap? I think that i...Will Umno walk into PKR's trap? I think that it is the other way around.It is the PKR and DAP walking into Umno's trap.Or rather Najib's trawler net's trap.<br /><br />First of all,PKR do not have the politicians with the smarts.If they have,the opposition would have been roosting in Putrajaya.And Mr Manmanlai would have been the PM instead of Jibby.Instead he is spending his forced political retirement in Hilton,Sungei Buloh.<br /><br />Let us ask ourselves, "what have the opposition gained from the Najib and 1 MDB bashing".Well,first their plan of conspiring with Clare Rewcastle totally fell apart with the arrest of Justo.And their rewards from all these months of wasted efforts? They have spent tons on money (foreign currencies) on a propaganda/mercenary blogger and got fucked in the belakang by Umnoputras in return.And many of their younger leaders will soon be joining Anwar,and enjoying the hospitality of Hilton,Sungei Buloh.<br /><br />Will the arrests weaken the opposition parties?No way,because those to be arrested are political clowns anyway.<br /><br />So,since the opposition will remain strong,will they be able to retain their existing seats,plus gaining some and maybe adding Putrajaya to their trophy collection?To be honest,I think that they will not be able to retain their existing seats.Instead they are going to lose some.<br /><br />Why? Just pure and simple commonsense.One need not be a rocket scientist or genius to figure it out.If the opposition can wrestle Putrajaya from the Umno/BN,will they beg and jump into bed with Mahathir and gang? Will they want to share the spoils of war with their sworn enemies?Go figure.brunohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18125168104617279859noreply@blogger.com