tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post51865365130343206..comments2024-03-29T13:53:27.554+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Chinese Muslims celebrating lantern festivals\KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-76893927666708886192016-09-12T19:32:01.071+08:002016-09-12T19:32:01.071+08:00'bin' is 'son of' as in Yehoshua b...'bin' is 'son of' as in Yehoshua ben Yosef, where 'ben' is the Jewish equivalent of 'bin'.<br /><br />'Abdullah' is 'slave of Allah'<br /><br />so 'bin Abdullah' means 'son of the slave of Allah swt'KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-11837520362452195442016-09-12T19:12:13.075+08:002016-09-12T19:12:13.075+08:00Oh so Bin is not = son of? Oh so Bin is not = son of? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18183337165973741918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-28917033245579551702016-09-12T12:35:51.931+08:002016-09-12T12:35:51.931+08:00Some corrections;
The original Hui referred to th...Some corrections;<br /><br />The original Hui referred to the Muslim tribes from the Western region of China. Most of them r Turkics in race.<br /><br />The Ma of the 'Hui' refers to the Han Chinese Muslim. They r NOT a race. They r Han Chinese. They were grouped into the 'Hui' sometime during the late Tang dynasty due to the intermarriages & the mass assimilation of the Turkics origined people into the Han culture.<br /><br />Thus the present Hui definition with lesser link to the original Turkics source. Most of the Hui' people has Han features nowadays.<br /><br />Not all Chinese Muslim takes the surname Ma. Most of the time when Ma is taken, it's due to family & village traditions, or bestowed by the emperor. There r other surnames taken by the Chinese Muslims. <br /><br />The original beginning of the surname Ma has many sources. Attributing to Allah is ONLY one of the story. They r all not conclusive.<br /><br />So be very careful about those googling 'facts'!CKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423926161945889390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-88994387340843592102016-09-12T10:05:24.421+08:002016-09-12T10:05:24.421+08:00bro hasan.. typo error, it is 'petunjuk' n...bro hasan.. typo error, it is 'petunjuk' not 'petujuk'.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03431352248378490137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-90723133479326055302016-09-12T09:45:06.286+08:002016-09-12T09:45:06.286+08:00Thus, Abdul Hadi = Abdul (Hamba) + Hadi (Name of A...Thus, Abdul Hadi = Abdul (Hamba) + Hadi (Name of Allah)= Hamba Allah.<br /><br />Hadi means "yang memberi hidayah/petujuk", thus, you can also interpret Abdul Hadi as "Hamba yang memberi hidayah/petujuk".hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05663082048545287345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-63083413719887733772016-09-12T06:51:11.304+08:002016-09-12T06:51:11.304+08:00Hello Tuan Teo Akbar,
Abdullah means "Hamba ...Hello Tuan Teo Akbar,<br /><br />Abdullah means "Hamba Allah" i.e. Slave of Allah and NOT Son of Allah, ok kawan? hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05663082048545287345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-85404686438529630262016-09-12T00:14:46.257+08:002016-09-12T00:14:46.257+08:00And that would translate as " son of Allah(na...And that would translate as " son of Allah(name 1 of 99 Allah's names)?<br />How about the Christians calling Jesus as Yeshua Bin Abdullah? What would that translate into English?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18183337165973741918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-43154420072921860792016-09-11T15:10:57.556+08:002016-09-11T15:10:57.556+08:00The Hui - culturally Han Chinese who are Muslims, ...The Hui - culturally Han Chinese who are Muslims, as contrasted to Turkic Uighurs, are relatively a tiny minority in China - less than 1% of the population. <br /><br />To survive within the wider Chinese community in China's giant cities, they have had to make many compromises over the centuries. One of the most important was to be almost completely assimilated (apart from their Islamic religion). Apart from Islamic rituals pertaining to births, circumcision, marriage, deaths, fasting, Haj, the Hui are completely assimilated within the Chinese community.<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_(surname)<br /><br />The Hui Chinese equivalent of "bin Abdullah" was their taking up the Surname Ma, which is a reference to the Prophet Muhammad. <br /><br />Over the centuries, whenever ethnic Chinese converted to Islam, they gave up their original surname, could be Lim, Tan, Wong, Lee, Chang, Yang, whatever that was, and took the surname "Ma" to signify their becoming the Sons of Muhammad. They kept Chinese given names, though.<br /><br />In case anyone was wondering, there was Never any Mass conversion of the Ma clan into Islam. That is not the explanation why if you meet a Muslim Hui Chinese, it is most likely their surname would be Ma.<br /><br />The case in South East Asia was different. Before the coming of Islam, most of the ruling class in South East Asia were Hindus or Buddhists. They often had names which had strong Hindu or Buddhist religious meanings, based in Sanskrit. When the ruling class converted to Islam, it was common practice to take on completely different names. Since the Muslim missionaries were usually Arabs or Indian Muslims, the new names were also often Arabic. <br /><br />The practice of practically restricting Muslims only to give Arabic names to newborns is a much more recent Malaysian government edict.<br />Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694084861364885645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-65114684730513455032016-09-11T08:27:43.794+08:002016-09-11T08:27:43.794+08:00Lantern festival in China is totally different fro...Lantern festival in China is totally different from the one in Malaysia. Anyhow, it's a cultural celebrationKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-61395745493452228282016-09-11T06:49:25.418+08:002016-09-11T06:49:25.418+08:00Agree, "It's the faith that matters, not ...Agree, "It's the faith that matters, not race"<br /><br />Islam tidak pernah mengharamkan atau melarang hambanya mengekalkan nama asal bapa dan ibu asal. <br /><br />However, for "anak yang tidak sah taraf" it must 'bin or binti' Abdullah or Abdul Rahman or Abdul Rahim or Abdul Rashid or Abdul Hadi or any of Allah's 99 names. hasanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05663082048545287345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-77585603792645918482016-09-11T00:35:53.376+08:002016-09-11T00:35:53.376+08:00The bin Abdullah syndrome of the Melayu is the sig...The bin Abdullah syndrome of the Melayu is the sign of their inferiority complex.<br /><br />They would accept anything Islam as superior to anything else. Bcoz no matter how hard they tried to re-invent the history of their Melayu history, everything comes short. <br /><br />As faith in Islam is also the the corner stone of been a Melayu & prophet Mohammed was an Arab! The Islam prerequisite, thus linked them to the Arab culture. Any wonder about the prolific inclination towards Arabialization in bolihland, especially among the heartlanfers!<br /><br />Until the Melayu M'sians break through this psychological shackle, they would forever beholden to this siege mentality, supporting with the continuous cheering of the Melayu palsu & their elites at the background.CKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16423926161945889390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-23797612248604293832016-09-11T00:27:28.035+08:002016-09-11T00:27:28.035+08:00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Autumn_Festival
...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Autumn_Festival<br /><br />The younger generation have no inkling of the Mid-Autumn festival's religious origins, so they treat it as just about Lanterns and Moon Cakes. But that does not negate its essence founded in Chinese Folk Religion.<br /><br />In olden days, the Mid-Autumn festival really was a Chinese religious festival, associated with Moon Worship. <br />"Pai Guek Neo" was a common Baba prayer offering , made at midnight of the 15th Day of the 8th Month of the Lunar calendar. Traditional Folks still practice it in Malacca till this day.<br /><br />Its real meaning was a thanksgiving prayer festival to offer gratitude for the Harvest. A vital event for a agricultural society that survived from one harvest to the next.<br /><br />It only became a non-religious festival along with the largely secularisation of overseas Chinese communities. <br /><br /><br />Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694084861364885645noreply@blogger.com