tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post2896816964743078429..comments2024-03-28T23:42:23.455+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Social contract - a vigorously implemented 'fantasy'KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-11652714090042252412008-05-17T09:59:00.000+08:002008-05-17T09:59:00.000+08:00Reply to Msleepyhead,As my posting stated, the pra...Reply to Msleepyhead,<BR/><BR/>As my posting stated, the practice was directly confirmed by my school going children together with their Malay classmates. What more direct evidence is needed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-6302175923727115032008-05-13T21:00:00.000+08:002008-05-13T21:00:00.000+08:00good points, ap! and i hope those so-called mighty...good points, ap! and i hope those so-called mighty bloggers for justice will also take up ap's recommendations ..... unless it's 'inconvenient' for them? maybe they're thinking of <I>'man man lai'</I> ;-), like in 50 or 500 years from nowKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-42106483459283740322008-05-13T19:48:00.000+08:002008-05-13T19:48:00.000+08:00If social contract is a myth, how are we going to ...If social contract is a myth, how are we going to reconstruct and damage control the flawed logic? Is this not the time, for Barisan Rakyat Malay leaders to come together and condemn the UMNO hegemony of 40 years old and help to nurture the nascent Bangsa Malaysia? Where are our civil society leaders? And why the lead blogers silent at this defining moment?<BR/><BR/>We first have to condemn the state agencies that promote and breeds racism. The first will be the Biro Tatanegara (BTN), under PM's department whose only job is to incite hatred towards non Malays and opposition party Malays. (read Azly Rahman blog for more). Time to remove this deadly virus (BTN) who is parasiting the Malaysian nation under the payroll of government. Second, ethnic studies syllabus prepared from school to university are based on the assumption of �social contract� that was originally developed from BTN modules should be revised. Thirdly, the entire higher learning institutions that are producing research on ethnic relations and ethnicity should move away from �social contract� paradigm to valid sociological/anthropological paradigm. All ethnic studies institutes/school that are established in Malaysia are all infested with the deadly virus at foundational level. Good example is the ethnic studies module prepared by head of ethnic studies, UKM.<BR/><BR/>When this paradigm shift takes place, all the problem of polarization among ethnic groups in schools or higher learning institutions will fade away. This will be the genuine first step towards creating a better Malaysia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-30346262350619261262008-05-13T15:30:00.000+08:002008-05-13T15:30:00.000+08:00old timer, you're kidding right? did you read this...old timer, you're kidding right? did you read this from an email somewhere because it had already been exposed as an email forwarding hoax on haris ibrahim's site (http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/pizza-hut-responds/)<BR/><BR/>as apparent, TunM is still pretty old school in his politics. doggedly hanging on to the anti-colonial spirit, and now pitting the malays against others by constantly telling them they are weak when they're not. some third world country hero he is.<BR/><BR/>but i guess we'd be relieved in a sense, with no disrespect, that such old school politics should be wiped out with the passing of that particular generation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-62703895317809332442008-05-13T12:41:00.000+08:002008-05-13T12:41:00.000+08:00You missed out the discriminatory practice by Pizz...You missed out the discriminatory practice by Pizza Hut. <BR/><BR/>My school going children found out that Pzza Hut's bills excluded tax and service charges when their Malay classmates paid it. The bill were coded 'o'. However, when a non Malay classmate paid the bill, it was coded 'c' or 'i' or other codes, and a tax and service charge was applied. What kind of racism is this?!!<BR/><BR/>I do not know if this practice is continuing, but all you readers can check. I do not know the owner of Pizza Hut. If anyone knows, they may be interested in demonstrating in front of these outlets, if the discriminatory policy is still being applied.<BR/><BR/>Any instance of MM's 'social contract'?!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-77360460615986961142008-05-13T12:25:00.000+08:002008-05-13T12:25:00.000+08:00Give them the ketuananI see ketuanan as a wheelcha...Give them the ketuanan<BR/><BR/>I see ketuanan as a wheelchair<BR/><BR/>only those handicapped person need a wheel chair!<BR/><BR/>give it to the weaker raceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-20901094352327120322008-05-13T09:35:00.000+08:002008-05-13T09:35:00.000+08:00I'm quite concious from my historical readings and...I'm quite concious from my historical readings and talking to surviving old folks from the Independence era that there WAS a Quid-Pro-Quo between the Malay and Chinese leadership at the time.<BR/><BR/>For those Chinese born in Malaya , citizenship was a non-issue. But not so the large number who emigrated from China.<BR/><BR/>Independent Malaya needed the Chinese community, the economy would have ground to a halt without them, and on top of that, involuntary repatriation would have been cruel, especially after the communist takeover in China.<BR/><BR/>Balanced against that was the real worry among the Malays that they would lose both economic and political rights in the country. The population of Malaya at the time was almost 50-50 between Malays and non-Malays, and that is a very delicate balance. At the time the Malays had almost no presence in the business and professional sectors.<BR/><BR/>If you look at the history of other nations, giving citizenship other than jus soli (place of birth)or lex soli (by operation of law) is a big deal. Even nations promoting migration, as the US once was, and Australia and Canada today, have quite lengthy and involved processes to confer citizenship.<BR/><BR/>So the special position (and I emphasise - not special rights) of the Malays WAS a trade-off for citizenship of non-native born Chinese and Indians.<BR/><BR/>It is a very old trade-off and the situation today is vastly different. The Malays now have a major share in the economy. There are now plenty of very affluent Malays. The non-Malays are a shrinking proportion of the population. Almost the entire non-Malay population are native-born citizens.<BR/><BR/>After 50 years , isn't it time to throw the crutch away and everyone learn to walk on their own ?Monsterballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05482725674818312298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-81939029960439215382008-05-13T01:54:00.000+08:002008-05-13T01:54:00.000+08:00While it should be applauded that Prof Ungku Aziz ...While it should be applauded that Prof Ungku Aziz came forward to deny the "social contract", it is too soon to make him the hero. He has reserved his comments for a different quorum.<BR/><BR/>He is the one who is responsible to initiate 'Malay only' economic program since 1970s. In the debates of early 1970s, Ungku Aziz has fiercely maintained the Malay economic agenda at the expense of other poor groups.<BR/><BR/>Recognising his contribution, he was made a professor than royal professor though he never completed his PhD and never had significant academic publications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-36985022236747515942008-05-12T21:05:00.000+08:002008-05-12T21:05:00.000+08:00sorry, should read as "...he has been telling of ....sorry, should read as "...he has been telling of ..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-125083392514821872008-05-12T21:01:00.000+08:002008-05-12T21:01:00.000+08:00Mahathir is no historian, folks, from what he has ...Mahathir is no historian, folks, from what he has been trying of recent events, his mind has shown to be very faulty (remember the Lingam's Tapes Inquiry). How can we trust him with events that occured years along. He will be giving us a rendition from his own imagination!!!!<BR/><BR/>Stay away from him !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-6578493923227008822008-05-12T20:44:00.000+08:002008-05-12T20:44:00.000+08:00Bravo Prof Ungku Aziz for telling us now that the ...Bravo Prof Ungku Aziz for telling us now that the emperor did not wear any clothes! It is 50 years too late, but better late than never. So now we know that the so-called social contract was nothing but a big scam to cheat the non-Malays of their basic human right. All those UMNO leaders responsible and their MCA/MIC quislings will eventually have to pay the blood debt to half of the country's population who have been conned of their rights. Had it been a non-Malay saying there was no social contract, he would instantly have been jailed for sedition. 1984 in Malaysia is far from over despite the severe setbacks suffered by the BN in the last GEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-30522169863494782612008-05-12T19:43:00.000+08:002008-05-12T19:43:00.000+08:00Just read the two books written by the Malay extre...Just read the two books written by the Malay extremist at this period, The Malay Dilemma by Mahathir (the rascal who incited hatred against the Tunku) and Revolusi Mental by Senu Abdul Rahman collection of articles by Malay extremist). <BR/><BR/>This fundamentalist and racist views were criticised by the late Prof Syed Hussien Alatas. He even predicted the NEP will only lead to corruption and benefit a small groups of Malays. this came to past after 30 years.<BR/><BR/>So, enough of Mahathir giving us lesson in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-40446350362142770892008-05-12T19:29:00.000+08:002008-05-12T19:29:00.000+08:00UMNOputras always mention Special rights whereas a...UMNOputras always mention Special rights whereas actually is Special Position. Also they forget that other races have their rights to their mother tongue and religion. Further what about those from Sabah and Sarawak? UMNOputras think that their type has more rights that those bumi from East Malaysia. If that is the case, it is time to review their position. Afterall, West Malaysia swallow more from their resources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-78853371510680306592008-05-12T19:28:00.001+08:002008-05-12T19:28:00.001+08:00It was an emotional blackmail by the Tunku and the...It was an emotional blackmail by the Tunku and the non Malay leaders succumb to it in good faith. Later, the Tunku promised to revise within ten years (the same time accorded to replace English to Malay as official language) and the Reid Commission specified 15 years max). It was Tunku’s assurance that paved way for independence to materialize and the non Malay leaders supported the idea that Malays need state assistance, thus the specification of reservation in “public service, scholarships, exhibitions , permit or licences (for the operation of any trade or business). This has nothing to do with citizenship, as Mahathir claimed. The citizenship was mandatory to all qualified non Malays in Malaya.<BR/><BR/>It was after the coup by Tun Razak and the return of Malay fundamentalist in early 1970s that this pseudo history germinated. Dasar Ekonomi Baru, Dasar Pelajaran Kebangsaan , Dasar Kebudayaan Kebangsaan, Dasar Bahasa Kebangsaan are all drafted with the fundamentals of the pseudo history. This is the time the myth begins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-34553892029538120942008-05-12T19:28:00.000+08:002008-05-12T19:28:00.000+08:00Mahathir is lying!!! Another pseudo history, just ...Mahathir is lying!!! Another pseudo history, just like his early book, The Malay Dilemma. There was not any “understanding” between Tunku and the Perikatan non Malay leaders. UMNO had been imbibing the blood of the people, the poor Malays, non Malays and numerous natives from federation of Malaysia with the myth. The thesis of “citizenship in exchange of special rights” is the biggest scam in Malaysian history.<BR/><BR/>When the British conditioned that all major races in Malaya to consent the new Constitution, one of the point of contention among non Malay leaders was the vague Article 153. The Tunku was under tremendous pressure because the non Malay leaders did not agree to the Article and on the other side the leftist and Malay fundamentalist pressured the new Constitution to accept main AMCJA-PUTERA propositions. Finally the Tunku pleaded to Perikatan non-Malay leaders to retain the Article to pacify the Malays extremist and proceed with Independence process and assured that once independence is achieved, they can all sort out together the terms and duration for “special position of the Malays”. The evidence is available in meeting minutes in Public Record Office, London (but for some reason not in National Archives).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-68376812201735426372008-05-12T18:59:00.000+08:002008-05-12T18:59:00.000+08:00Rasa sayang eh rasa sayang sayang eh Rasa sayang p...Rasa sayang eh rasa sayang sayang eh <BR/><BR/>Rasa sayang pun Indonesia punye..........<BR/><BR/>Kapal sudah karam, itu lah hasil kerajaan BN tukar sejarah tanahairAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-17864674069918317732008-05-12T18:46:00.000+08:002008-05-12T18:46:00.000+08:00Shamhala is shambles. Nasi sudah jadi bubur. Itu k...Shamhala is shambles. Nasi sudah jadi bubur. Itu keris pun bukan melayu punya. Jadi tinggal apa?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-37740023272105226102008-05-12T18:34:00.000+08:002008-05-12T18:34:00.000+08:00the country is more important than UMNO or BN.One ...the country is more important than UMNO or BN.<BR/><BR/>One should realise that firstmalayamudahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03860196713117059763noreply@blogger.com