tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post2428392720045333445..comments2024-03-28T23:42:23.455+08:00Comments on KTemoc Konsiders ........: Treachery in Johor?KTemochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-4490793991193235162013-02-21T14:51:29.852+08:002013-02-21T14:51:29.852+08:00well said wave.
when i was young, i heard this mc...well said wave.<br /><br />when i was young, i heard this mca fella told us hands up legs up adds up still not enough, u know who said this? otk. now the number are almost there and what all this mca shit did? <br /><br />not only mca, those with inflated ego one also tak bolih pakai.HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-12513209031751790252013-02-21T10:49:32.296+08:002013-02-21T10:49:32.296+08:00HuaYong,
I really do not believe in total freedom...HuaYong,<br /><br />I really do not believe in total freedom or total consensus, it is not possible. What commonality that PKR, DAP and PAS has on policies muct be fullfil? PR has to work hard on it, like what they have on 'Buku Jingga'. But UMNO cannot accept this argument, saying that it has to be total. Agree to be different is propagated as being disunity and chaos, that had been sold many rounds by UMNO to the Rakyat.<br /><br />MCA and MIC, had been 'Yes' man for ages, at many private meeting among MCA and MIC themselves dish out the same statement to their own members, be patient, we have to work quitely under UMNO nose (ass). Hence, as a result being a 'Yes' man for UMNO for so long, MCA and MIC has been irrelevant to their own race. They have suffered the most compare to UMNO. UMNO appear to be a victor among MCA, MIC and Gerakan.<br /><br />I am a believer of Yin and Yang. But as of now, the balance is still not there yet. Many fools do not see that, and they want be all parties to be ethical on the same platform whether it is BN or PR. As what KT mentioned "Be careful what you wish for", this will only weaken PR further and strengthen BN more. Only when PR has run their first term as federal government, I would be critical. Because I am anti-establishment. I am always been very critical on the leaders and as a Rakyat, we need to. But idiots being idiots, they like to carry balls instead of pointing out what the leaders have done wrong. Only one man can destroy a country, Hitler did that and in Malaysia we had a dictator for 22 years did the same thing. After 22 years, some zombies are still carrying his balls. Idiots always says I am pro PR. No, I am not, I am just...<br /><br /><b>ABU</b><br /><br />That is my priority, there is no second and there is no third priority, just one.<br />If anyone disagree on that, you have the right to, so do I.<br />Wave33noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-41839858745865953532013-02-20T20:19:37.871+08:002013-02-20T20:19:37.871+08:00With recycled products like Anwar,Azmin,CJM and ho...With recycled products like Anwar,Azmin,CJM and hoards of others in PKR,who can blamed them for indulging in backstabbing.They have learn it well from their previous parties and have been playing this game their whole political lives.That is how they jave managed to stay alive in politics.Playing the fros and backstabbing games.rats and frogs worse nightmaresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-42696739678225958462013-02-20T17:32:40.516+08:002013-02-20T17:32:40.516+08:00Wave,
I think it has nothing to do with happy or ...Wave,<br /><br />I think it has nothing to do with happy or not, more towards whether I agree or disagree, just like I always disagree with many bloghosts opinion, but I try to refute with fact, or at least state my opinion with logical/rational retortion, of course not the leap one.<br /><br />Similarly to KT, I personally have no issue to support Suqiu, Hindraf Blueprint and The People’s Declaration, though I have no idea if all the listed demand and request can be executed and implemented, because some might not be fall in with national policy and constitution, and some are easier said than done, for instance, how and where we draw a line to “guarantee freedom of press so that they can monitor and expose any corruption and abuse of power”? Most of the time, the Yin n Yang must be taken together and that is why we see many that advocate freedom of expression would not hesitate to perform censorship. PR is actually the blending of people from various ideology and belief system that facing one same opponent, a common declaration is therefore both impediment and prerequisite, hence don’t you think they are one that should work out a common declaration with consensus and name it rakyat/people declaration? Apple introduce Newton amd Microsoft launch table in last century, but only Ipad of this century succeed to penetrate the consumer market, so sometime, who and timing do have a major role to influence the outcome. Secondly, let say we proposes to PR that we are going to bring in some very good quality candidater from our wakaka team to contest in the coming GE, Wave will go to Bakri and KT go to Ipoh Timur, what would you think is the reaction? Talking about pain, hey, Anwar were incarcerated, for different reason though, and many in DAP (and PAS) went through a more painful life during their challenge of the corrupted regime, how many turn to become a Lee Lam Thye?<br /><br />I know sometimes we have to answer a fool according to his folly, and being a hardcore of Chinese education, I never forget what Anwar did, however I hope we don’t let go of our priority. <br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-43751476014676047572013-02-20T11:19:23.011+08:002013-02-20T11:19:23.011+08:00HuaYong,
From your various posts, you are definit...HuaYong,<br /><br />From your various posts, you are definitely not happy with RPK recent behaviour. I am not sure whether you have read the 20 parts of "The journey in life is never a straight line" by RPK.<br /><br />It is a biography or some sort, perhaps some fiction in it where we are not able to verify, unless the affiliated concern person confirm it. In the 20 parts, Anwar and RPK crosses parts many times. It many occasion RPK was inflicted either financially or mentally.<br /><br />I have already made my stand on RPK which I only agree with 65% of what he wrote. I am not too concern on the past historical journey that Anwar and RPK had when Anwar was still in UMNO. This I MUST forget, because I am a ABU supporter.<br /><br />I more concern of the recent promises and progress on pre-2008 till now. What I am really sore about is the "The People's Declaration". I am all out for it. It will restore, all the four pillars of power in Malaysia, namely, the executive, legislative, judiciary and monarchy. Anwar has distance himself from the "The People's Declaration" that made RPK unhappy again.<br /><br />http://mt.m2day.org/The_Peoples_Declaration.pdf<br /><br />Wave33noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-35820760902119547752013-02-20T10:39:55.685+08:002013-02-20T10:39:55.685+08:00I think CJM 1st fought for the MCA president post ...I think CJM 1st fought for the MCA president post against OKT and subsequently against OTK and lost both times and left MCA soon after. To be fair he didn't lose that badly both times. I also read RPK's piece on CJM, the so called revelation of his corruption but I couldn't pin point any so called 'evidence', the article appears to be beating around the bush with allegation but no solid eveidence. That said, not that I trust CJM very much but on the issue of MCA's vehicle taking over the Nanyang Siang Pau, I must confess I like his stand on that matter. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-68152507132502989932013-02-20T09:30:35.322+08:002013-02-20T09:30:35.322+08:00Thanks, kt, however u only answer my first part.
...Thanks, kt, however u only answer my first part.<br /><br />I read only suqiu (in Chinese). Both suqiu n hindraf retorted that they are less race centric but reflecting the “rakyat” aspiration, would a change of name to something like rakyat declaration could make their request more appreciated and receptive? What if me n u joint force n come up with a wakaka declacation, of course we would name it peoples declaration n ask anwar, hadi n lks to endorse our wakaka declaration, what would u think is their response? They might or might not agree I don’t know but what if wave n rocketman also come up with their rocketwave declacation and also name it people declaration, and ali n baba with another one alibaba declaration then how? <br /><br />The most touching 2011 movie in the Chinese sphere “You are the apple of my eyes” have this touché remark “人生本来就有很多事情是徒劳无功的啊….” (Many thing in life r futile, even so, every thing that happenned has it unique significance). For instance, our wakaka declacation coule be the impetus of a common declaration, a common manifesto n so on, and that is the significance role you are in and acknowledged contribution so why vent the frustration now unless …. i think i stop here. HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-59924360046999105962013-02-20T05:21:50.688+08:002013-02-20T05:21:50.688+08:00yamseng too, wakakakayamseng too, wakakakaKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-28944104825941478182013-02-20T05:21:09.788+08:002013-02-20T05:21:09.788+08:00better queue up - there's a long line of suito...better queue up - there's a long line of suitors for her hand wakakaka, but I know who her heart belongs to (another wakakaka)KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-23580222637757612692013-02-20T05:18:21.973+08:002013-02-20T05:18:21.973+08:00I fully support Suqiu but like DAP it carries too ...I fully support Suqiu but like DAP it carries too much of a Chinese-ness (I suppose because it started with Chinese activists) so it has been better for a similar NGO like Bersih to now carry its torch. Bersih has a definite multiracial image.<br /><br />I support the ORIGINAL Hindraf - see my amateurish eulogy for the movement titled "25 November 2007" in my other blog KTemoc Komposes http://ktemockomposes.blogspot.com.au/2007/12/25-november-2007.html<br /><br />But the original Hindraf is no more, with Ganabitarau and Manoharan in DAP, Thanenthiran in the pro BN Makkal Sakti, and Uthayakumar with his HRP. <br /><br />The last, Uthayakumar, has virtually claimed ownership of the original Hindraf, which now is also claimed and led by his more sober-headed brother Waynamoorthy. But the fact is the original Hindraf regrettably is no more. Its threat to both Pakatan and BN is toothless as most Indians have moved back to BN, with the remainder in eitehr DAP or PKR.<br /><br />I personally opine that the big-headedness and non-realistic political understanding of Uthayakumar destroyed most of the goodwill I and many others originally had for the movement.<br /><br />Just as an indication of my disdain for a post 27 Nov 2007 Uthayakumar, I penned "False prophets of Kampung Buah Pala" at KTemoc Komposes - see http://ktemockomposes.blogspot.com.au/2009/08/false-prophets-of-kampung-buah-pala.htmlKTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-44856477864365760572013-02-20T02:37:24.218+08:002013-02-20T02:37:24.218+08:00"Pakatan's taxi sapu, PKR". Hahahah ..."Pakatan's taxi sapu, PKR". Hahahah ktemoc. Damn good one, yam seng!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-25123447544396052812013-02-19T22:43:08.794+08:002013-02-19T22:43:08.794+08:00PKR is quite similar to the Green Party found in W...PKR is quite similar to the Green Party found in Western countries. They believe and practised recycling especially useless sampah from MCA and other BN partiesstrikernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-17052839331607009122013-02-19T22:25:30.232+08:002013-02-19T22:25:30.232+08:00Kaytee,all this while I do not know that sweetie T...Kaytee,all this while I do not know that sweetie Teresa was single and eligible.I only knew when she said it is nice to be single and received ang pows frow Wee and Mrs Liow.If I knew earlier,I might also received an ang pow for being a matchmaker.bluddy kay poh cheenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-12933424817794150602013-02-19T22:17:54.659+08:002013-02-19T22:17:54.659+08:00Kaytee,the better politicians are the originals fr...Kaytee,the better politicians are the originals from the DAP and PAS.PKR are all frogs,rats and circus clowns.Those from PKR are mostly clones of Umno.And that big circus clown Tian Chua,a useless good for nothing bodeker.the gaffe guy who know'snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-83393041259598844932013-02-19T22:08:00.011+08:002013-02-19T22:08:00.011+08:00i am being sarcastic too, my point is even within ...i am being sarcastic too, my point is even within dap there is bickering, squabbling and politicking, what is the problem shd that happen between pr component party? anyway they r politician n political party not welfare association, and i think it is perfectly all right to strive for the best, as long as they dont abuse the peoples' trust, is that not a healthy progress toward a more open society and practiced democracy compare to the rule by one man one party sort of sham democracy where everything is settle backdoor?<br /><br />i think treachery is a too heavy word for such a trifle.HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-15121372075990072802013-02-19T22:05:49.865+08:002013-02-19T22:05:49.865+08:00Kaytee,it will be better if we let your bro Bhai K...Kaytee,it will be better if we let your bro Bhai Karpal use his big stick on CJM,his buddy Anwar and the blue eyed boy Azmin.They needed to be taught a lesson anyway.And mostly known to many in the inner circle they needed it badly and fast and furious too.the toothless fellanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-37817506899116920542013-02-19T21:50:46.181+08:002013-02-19T21:50:46.181+08:00of course i know u r being sarcastic, plainly to a...of course i know u r being sarcastic, plainly to answer a wakaka according to his wakaka. perhaps, just perhaps naivety and hypocrisy bear the same meaning in some people's dictionary.<br /><br />just curious kt, what is yr stand on suqiu and hindraf? u think pr shd or shd not endorse their request / demand / declaration?<br /><br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-46479536746263777052013-02-19T21:12:10.957+08:002013-02-19T21:12:10.957+08:00If one looks carefully, PKR is doing the same unde...If one looks carefully, PKR is doing the same undermining thingy in virtually everywhere - Sarawak, thus losing the state to "Pek Moh", Perak, thus ousting Nizar, Sabah, by splitting the KDM votes with APS versus STAR & "ori", encouraging SAPP against DAP, promoting Lajim Ukin of Muslim PPPS - the only types they trust.malayanboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17184610424376847428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-58449333298269380072013-02-19T21:02:56.959+08:002013-02-19T21:02:56.959+08:00Ktemoc,
I admit to not knowing a lot about Chua Ju...Ktemoc,<br />I admit to not knowing a lot about Chua Jui Meng, but I think you need to admit to knowing very little about DAP Johor.<br /><br />I'm speaking as a DAP member of many decades standing. A great deal of the negativism surrounding DAP in Johor is internal and self-destructive. They don't need PKR "treachery" to implode, though there may be truth in that accusation.<br /><br />DAP in Johore is a long way from DAP in Penang. Its an unfortunate effect of BN/MCA's previously almost invincible status in Johore. As a result, DAP Johore is, frankly, quite rife with riff-raffs and troublemakers. <br />I personally dislike dealing with many of them, truth be told.<br /><br />Anyway, we all need to focus on getting BN voted out of power. The rest can wait.Rocketmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-1946644290087240922013-02-19T21:02:06.915+08:002013-02-19T21:02:06.915+08:00Kaytee,your bro Bhai Karpal is on the warpath agai...Kaytee,your bro Bhai Karpal is on the warpath against frogs,critters and rats.It is better to get out of the way of a fuming warring Bhai.the mean machinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-45531087249410637892013-02-19T17:11:50.092+08:002013-02-19T17:11:50.092+08:00CJM shares the same BN DNA with Anwar, Azmin Ali, ...CJM shares the same BN DNA with Anwar, Azmin Ali, Saifuddin Nasution etc. They don't help others especially DAP people.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-55064429263861297802013-02-19T17:10:25.083+08:002013-02-19T17:10:25.083+08:00I was being sarcastic. I know why RPK has been dis...I was being sarcastic. I know why RPK has been disappointed with and is now against Anwar, a position I have consistently maintained since I started blogging. I won't say anything more about Anwar here.KTemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09951253039042572381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-71188095120324874072013-02-19T14:28:29.909+08:002013-02-19T14:28:29.909+08:00could it be cjm is trying to help lge as everyone ...could it be cjm is trying to help lge as everyone in johor know lge faction has been trying to oust bch for years n unsuccessful, of course this is my speculation as i dun hear anything yet from the rest except bch n ks.<br /><br />i didnt know ipoh timur is lks one, i thot he was from penang? or melaka? or pj? or johor? wow he must have learn it from emperor hongwu, every piece of land under the sky is his one eh?HuaYongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11109306.post-27344585126080894112013-02-19T14:14:06.956+08:002013-02-19T14:14:06.956+08:00u r right we shd ignore rpk, this fella now detest...u r right we shd ignore rpk, this fella now detest anwar but everyone know he previously adored anwar, n the funny thing is suddenly we all become bias n he is one that independent, if we dun ignore him, we have to give new definition to term like consistence, principles, n naive wakaka<br /><br />HuaYongnoreply@blogger.com